Re: Microbial growth inside implants....to nancy hyypio & everyone!!!!!!!!

[Guest guest]

Yes, you can have them put in a buffered formalin solution in a clear

container and keep them. Or you can put them in a couple of thick

plastic bags and freeze them. You may want to see if they are clear

or if there is something in them.

Lynda

At 01:42 PM 3/10/2006, you wrote:

>as my count down to explant of my silicone (due to reconstruction)

>implants ticks down, reading what nancy said about her one implant

>being black freaked ME out!!! here is a question: the PS said she

>will give them to me, and i can't afford to send them anywhere for

>testing, so i was going to just tell her i DON'T want

>them......yucky! but now, should i take them and look at them, even

>if i can't test them??????? what should i do after i (maybe) look at

>them???????? btw, i am terrified about this surgery...i have no

>chest wall left hardly, and hope i don't end up disabled or

>something.....

>

>kathie

>

>

>

> If there was ever a doubt that

>saline is safe, there

> > won't be after reading this! - Rogene

> >

> >

>

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ez/query.fcgi?

>cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=9207676

> >

> > Microbial growth inside saline-filled breast implants.

> >

> > Young VL, Hertl MC, Murray PR, Jensen J, Witt H,

> > Schorr MW.

> >

> > Division of Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery,

> > Washington University School of Medicine, St. Louis,

> > Mo., USA.

> >

> > In vitro and in vivo experiments were conducted to

> > determine whether intraluminal saline in breast

> > implants can support the growth of common

> > wound-infecting microorganisms over a prolonged period

> > of time. The bacteria tested were Staphylococcus

> > aureus, Staphylococcus epidermidis, Escherichia coli,

> > Corynebacterium jeikeium, Enterobacter cloacae,

> > Klebsiella pneumoniae, and Pseudomonas aeruginosa.

> > Three fungal species also were tested: Aspergillus

> > fumigatus, Paecilomyces variotii, and Candida

> > albicans. In the in vitro study, four organisms

> > survived in flasks of sterile saline for the 2 weeks

> > in which serial cultures were performed: K.

> > pneumoniae, C. albicans, A. fumigatus, and P.

> > variotii. In the in vivo study, 61 white rabbits (122

> > implants) received both an experimental implant

> > inoculated with one of the test organisms and a

> > control implant containing only sterile saline. They

> > were sacrificed at 1-, 3-, or 6-month scheduled

> > endpoints. None of the control implants containing

> > sterile saline had positive cultures. In contrast, the

> > intraluminal saline was culture positive for 7 of the

> > 10 inoculated organisms after varying lengths of time:

> > S. epidermidis, E. coli, E. cloacae, K. pneumoniae, P.

> > aeruginosa, A. fumigatus, and P. variotii. Samples of

> > capsular tissue also were cultured. Of the 122

> > capsular tissue specimens, 21 (17 percent) had

> > positive cultures and surrounded both inoculated and

> > sterile implants. In most instances, capsules that

> > were culture positive contained an organism different

> > from the one that had been inoculated in the group. In

> > only 3 cases was the same organism cultured from both

> > the periprosthetic tissue and the intraluminal saline,

> > and these may represent instances of the inoculated

> > organism migrating through the implants filler valves.

> > The data show that several types of bacteria

> > (particularly gram-negative species) and fungi can

> > grow and reproduce in a restricted saline environment

> > for extended periods of time.

> >

> > PMID: 9207676 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

>by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

>licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

>treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

>about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

>Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963,

>Peace)

> >

> > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> >

>

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> >

> >

[Guest guest]

as my count down to explant of my silicone (due to reconstruction)

implants ticks down, reading what nancy said about her one implant

being black freaked ME out!!! here is a question: the PS said she

will give them to me, and i can't afford to send them anywhere for

testing, so i was going to just tell her i DON'T want

them......yucky! but now, should i take them and look at them, even

if i can't test them??????? what should i do after i (maybe) look at

them???????? btw, i am terrified about this surgery...i have no

chest wall left hardly, and hope i don't end up disabled or

something.....

kathie

If there was ever a doubt that

saline is safe, there

> won't be after reading this! - Rogene

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=9207676

>

> Microbial growth inside saline-filled breast implants.

>

> Young VL, Hertl MC, Murray PR, Jensen J, Witt H,

> Schorr MW.

>

> Division of Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery,

> Washington University School of Medicine, St. Louis,

> Mo., USA.

>

> In vitro and in vivo experiments were conducted to

> determine whether intraluminal saline in breast

> implants can support the growth of common

> wound-infecting microorganisms over a prolonged period

> of time. The bacteria tested were Staphylococcus

> aureus, Staphylococcus epidermidis, Escherichia coli,

> Corynebacterium jeikeium, Enterobacter cloacae,

> Klebsiella pneumoniae, and Pseudomonas aeruginosa.

> Three fungal species also were tested: Aspergillus

> fumigatus, Paecilomyces variotii, and Candida

> albicans. In the in vitro study, four organisms

> survived in flasks of sterile saline for the 2 weeks

> in which serial cultures were performed: K.

> pneumoniae, C. albicans, A. fumigatus, and P.

> variotii. In the in vivo study, 61 white rabbits (122

> implants) received both an experimental implant

> inoculated with one of the test organisms and a

> control implant containing only sterile saline. They

> were sacrificed at 1-, 3-, or 6-month scheduled

> endpoints. None of the control implants containing

> sterile saline had positive cultures. In contrast, the

> intraluminal saline was culture positive for 7 of the

> 10 inoculated organisms after varying lengths of time:

> S. epidermidis, E. coli, E. cloacae, K. pneumoniae, P.

> aeruginosa, A. fumigatus, and P. variotii. Samples of

> capsular tissue also were cultured. Of the 122

> capsular tissue specimens, 21 (17 percent) had

> positive cultures and surrounded both inoculated and

> sterile implants. In most instances, capsules that

> were culture positive contained an organism different

> from the one that had been inoculated in the group. In

> only 3 cases was the same organism cultured from both

> the periprosthetic tissue and the intraluminal saline,

> and these may represent instances of the inoculated

> organism migrating through the implants filler valves.

> The data show that several types of bacteria

> (particularly gram-negative species) and fungi can

> grow and reproduce in a restricted saline environment

> for extended periods of time.

>

> PMID: 9207676 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963,

Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kathie,

You will probably end up flat chested - but removing

them is more likely to prevent you from becoming

disabled that to cause it.

If your implants are black, knowing they are out

should make you feel better! . . . It's not knowing

that is troubling!

If it would satisfy your curiosity, I'd ask for your

implants. . . You can always throw them out! If you

keep them, put them in a sealed bag in case you need

to have them checked at a later date. You won't be

able to keep the scar tissue capsules though. The

pathologist will probably give you a report on them.

It's pretty normal to begin getting anxious before

explant. . . Please try to relax! . . . You're doing

the right thing! You have your children to care for.

You can't afford to be sick all the time.

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene