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Laurie <durango2124@...> wrote: From Laurie Mon Feb 27 10:29:44 2006Received: from [68.239.123.35] by web31804.mail.mud. via HTTP; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 10:29:44 PSTDate: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 10:29:44 -0800 (PST)From: Laurie <durango2124@...>Subject: Re: Laurie, a note - Here's My Story (Laurie)Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...>In-Reply-<20060227175240.47766.qmail@...>MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-568510353-1141064984=:25205"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bitContent-Length: 3162 I honestly can't remember if I actually introduced myself. But anyways I am almost 26. I have three children and I am married. I got my implants in October. Just before the surgery I had changed my mind but didn't dare tell my

husband cause we had paid a non-refundable deposit of 500.00. So I went and did it 10/13/05. I have been trying to get the courage to tell my husband I want them out. And I felt really stupid cause I was worried about 500 when I let him spend a total of 5,000! But I was thinking once I had them I would be happy with them, well I was sooooo wrong! I mean I like them and how I look (clothed) kind of odd seeing them there!) It has caused nothing but mostly fighting between us. I have NOT changed how I dress they are just more noticeable now and he has a cow if I wear certain shirts (he bought them too!) And they were still sore until about a month ago and he has been very impatient if you know what I mean. Well anyways a few weeks ago in the morning I noticed when I ran my hands through my hair I would be holding 4-5 strands each time so I looked up hair loss online and it said it is normal to lose more hair in the morning so I figured it was normal. Well on Thursday (the

23rd) I spent most of the day trying to find out if it is Biblically wrong to get implants. Well I couldn't find anything (so far) but I decided I was gonna tell my husband when he came home on break I didn't want them anymore cause I was sick of the fighting about them and it just doesn't seem right. Well I lost my courage to tell him when he came home. But that night he went to bed early and I watched CSI. After that was over I was messing with my hair and the same thing happened as previously but it was night time so I thought about it and I decided I had the perfect test to see if I was exagerating (sp) well the test proved I was not! I have always had thick hair and could not use regular sized barrettes well I had one in my hair! (Just the top pulled back). I typed in hair loss breast implants on a search and could not believe what I found! And that is how I found this forum! I woke my husband up and told him I wanted them out. I expected him to be really

mad. But I think if you search through the forum archives between the dates of 2/23-the present you will find mine some of the subjects say unknown and I have replied to ?, Rogene, and maybe a couple more but I just can't type anymore right now. I will let you know also I have been really tired and the acne is horrible! Oh yeah you can see the size difference in those barrettes in one of my previous posts. ~LaurieTricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: Thanks Laurie! I think I missed your intro letter, sorry about that! I try to keep up with all the posts, but it is hard sometimes. I am glad you've made contact with some of the group members....how are you feeling? Do you still have your implants? PattyLaurie

<durango2124@...> wrote: I am sorry about that I don't know what happened that link is in my signature it's just pics. When I received a copy in my email it was blank so I went to the actual group and it was there and just didn't go through the emails. ?????? Yes I think I introduced myself to the group? I have had contact with some of the members who have helped alot. I can uncheck my signature box before sending emails if that helps but just to let all know they are pictures of my family no SPAM!glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: Hi Laurie,It's Patty....I sent you an invite to rejoin the group. Iapologize, and need to explain. I

saw a post of yours that was onlya link, with no explanation of what it was about.I have to advise you that I tend to be ultra-cautious about thesekinds of posts, due to our prior experience with highly offensivepostings, SPAM, or tracking ploys to get our email addresses andinfect our computers with viruses. There are quite a few people outthere who don't like what we are doing to warn women.So, just to let you know, I had removed your post that was a linkonly, and removed your name from our list. You will have to rejointhe group. I apologize, but it is just a necessary precaution thatI have had to take. I usually don't even check the link, but whenyou followed your original post with another one, I did go back andcheck it out.Have you introduced yourself to our group?Patty http://durango2124.fotopages.com LAURIE B. Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. http://durango2124.fotopages.com LAURIE B.

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Laurie

Welcome to our group. I am glad that you were able to find the

connection so quickly to implants. Many women don't for quite

awhile. It sounds like they have brought you nothing but

unhappiness. I definitely agree that you should get them out.

Since you haven't had them in very long, I would think that you

would get a really good cosmetic result. I know it is hard not to

beat yourself up for getting them, but we have all made that same

mistake too. What is good about the situation, is that you can get

explanted and stand a good chance of getting your symptoms to slow

down or reverse. There is alot of good info on this site and we

will support you anyway we can.

Hugs Kathy

Hi Laurie,

> It's Patty....I sent you an invite to rejoin the group. I

> apologize, and need to explain. I saw a post of yours that was only

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> I have to advise you that I tend to be ultra-cautious about these

> kinds of posts, due to our prior experience with highly offensive

> postings, SPAM, or tracking ploys to get our email addresses and

> infect our computers with viruses. There are quite a few people out

> there who don't like what we are doing to warn women.

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> So, just to let you know, I had removed your post that was a link

> only, and removed your name from our list. You will have to rejoin

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I am so glad that your husband is now supporting you! It sure helps

to work together. How did you find this PS? Have you called his

office? He certainly puts in silicone implants so he may be

discouraging of you getting explanted. Most PS take the stance that

implants don't cause illness and tell you your symptoms are from

something else. Then they try to tell you that you won't be happy

with how you are going to look and that you will be sorry. In

addition, since they won't admit implants cause illness, they

usually take them out as easily as possible for themselves and that

means leaving the capsule in that your body formed around the

implant. So you may want to call and talk to him or his nurse first

to get a feel for where he stands and what he would be willing to

do. Since you are in land, you are not that far from Dr. Feng

in Cleveland. She does many explants and will do them properly and

believes they make women sick. Could she be a possibility?

Hugs Kathy

Hi Laurie,

> > It's Patty....I sent you an invite to rejoin the group. I

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> > infect our computers with viruses. There are quite a few people

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> > So, just to let you know, I had removed your post that was a link

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mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

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Laurie,

I experienced the same thing - I wanted to cancel right before I got

the implants, too - I started panicking about what it might do to my

immune system - and I didn't cancel because of losing the $1500

deposit (I figured my husband would be upset). That would have been

a drop in the bucket compared to all the money I lost because of

implants, $14,000 for two surgeries (implant and explant) and then

the money I've spent going to doctors and having tests - and of

course the health and peace of mind that I lost is priceless.

Sis

Hi Laurie,

> > It's Patty....I sent you an invite to rejoin the group. I

> > apologize, and need to explain. I saw a post of yours that was

only

> > a link, with no explanation of what it was about.

> >

> > I have to advise you that I tend to be ultra-cautious about these

> > kinds of posts, due to our prior experience with highly offensive

> > postings, SPAM, or tracking ploys to get our email addresses and

> > infect our computers with viruses. There are quite a few people

out

> > there who don't like what we are doing to warn women.

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> > So, just to let you know, I had removed your post that was a link

> > only, and removed your name from our list. You will have to

rejoin

> > the group. I apologize, but it is just a necessary precaution

that

> > I have had to take. I usually don't even check the link, but when

> > you followed your original post with another one, I did go back

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Laurie,

When you research the PS, make sure you are knowledgeable about

explant yourself first. We have alot of info available about explant

both in our links section and in our files section.

You will need to know about en bloc and/or total capsulectomy. You

will definitely want a total capsulectomy done. This is important

since your implants will have formed a scar capsule around each

implant, and those scar capsules can contain silicone degradation

products, bacteria or other pathogenic material that you don't want

left inside your body. Otherwise you can continue to have an immune

system reaction that can prevent healing, and unfortunately, some

women have had a poor explant that resulted in having to have a

second surgery to remove that capsule. You don't want to do that.

Drains are also highly recommended. I did not have drains, and ended

up looking like I had been hit by a mack truck with all the bruising

I had. But that wasn't the concern....the concern is that all those

fluids are left inside you and your immune system and liver have to

deal with them as well. Not good! It's just better to have the

drains and let all that stuff get outside your body so that your

body can heal quickly.

Before you set up an explant with this doctor, have a telephone

consultation in which you ask him how many explants he had done.

You want to hear numbers in the hundreds, rather than " a few "

or " maybe fifty " . YOu want someone who knows what he is doing. You

want to confirm that he is as concerned about your health as you

are, and that he will willingly do a total capsulectomy, or en bloc

removal (which is where the implant and scar tissue is removed as

one unit), as you request. You would be surprised how arrogant and

unkind some plastic surgeons can be when you come in and start

requesting a correct explant. Many of them get offended or

threatened when a woman knows what she is talking about.

Basically, you will want a good feeling after a thorough discussion

from this PS that he is going to do what is needed for you to get

your health back. If you do not have a good feeling about it, and

you can't confirm that he is knowledgeable about a proper explant, I

would look elsewhere.

Patty

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with it!!!!!!! I have also found a PS in New Hampshire who is fairly

cheap. I live in land but my family is in Maine so it all works

out it looks like I will get them out in April! YAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!

His name is Dr.Gray. How do you research a PS?

> http://www.atlanticplasticsurg.com Here Is the link to his site.

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Laurie,

We have the answer to that question in our database.

Here is the Q. and A.

Q. What is En Bloc removal?

A. En bloc refers to the method of removing an implant along with

the scar tissue that surrounds the implant in one unit. It is

primarily used for removal of silicone gel implants to ensure that

if there is any loose silicone gel from ruptured or leaking

implants, that the gel does not escape into the chest cavity and

contaminate surrounding tissue. However, en bloc removal is the

preferred method of removal for saline implants as well, to ensure

complete removal of scar tissue. When an en bloc removal is

performed, and all scar tissue surrounding the implant is removed,

the resulting effect is called a total capsulectomy, which is the

desired end result for all explants.

Q. What is a total capsulectomy?

A. A total capsulectomy refers to the complete excision of all scar

tissue that has formed around an implant. Scar tissue will always be

formed around a foreign object in the body. It is imperative that a

total capsulectomy be done at the time of explant, as opposed to a

partial capsulectomy. No scar tissue should be allowed to remain in

the body, as it can continue to elicit an immune response,

preventing full healing. Scar capsules can contain silicone

particles, breakdown products, bacterial colonies and other

pathogenic material that can prevent total healing. For this reason

a total capsulectomy MUST always be performed when implants are

removed from the body, for complete healing to be attained and for

future protection. If an en bloc removal is performed, this will

ensure a total capsulectomy is done as well. However, a total

capsulectomy can be performed separately, in which the doctor

ensures that all sections of the scar tissue are removed from the

body, not leaving anything behind.

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Laurie,

When they say he will remove everything, I would make sure that they

spell out exactly what " everything " means, and by what method.

It would be a good idea to get in writing that he will do an explant

and a total capsulectomy.

Patty

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> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

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