Guest guest Posted July 31, 2000 Report Share Posted July 31, 2000 I second that . it is true. Money and celevrity are great pre-qualifiers for A LOT of things! << It is as if money and celebrity is a great pre-qualifier to justify compassion ... >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2000 Report Share Posted August 1, 2000 There are a lot of testimonies of people who get cured of cancer by changing their diet and getting off poisons, to include chemo. I have a friend who plays tennis with me and I talked her into taking three teas, Pau D'Arco, Chaparral, and Red Clover and lots of Barley Green. She did have lymphoma and although she was taking low doses of chemo she finally quit because it almost killed her. She is now CANCER FREE and playing lots of tennis and traveling all over. Her husband is a doctor and FEARED her not taking the chemo. You see fear drives people to do ANYTHING, even if it is stupid, they will submit out of fear. I still cannot figure how anyone believes poisons will help the body. It does not compute. Only ignorance and fear can ruin logic like that. Anyway, she had Lymphoma and is now cancer free and she still takes Barely Green and smaller amounts of tea just for maintenance. There are many people like her, but unfortunately FEAR usually gets the majority of them to commit medical induced suicide. I have two little girls aged 11 and 8 and they have NEVER had antibodies (just their own natural ones). The younger one had been sick only once when a bad flu was going around and kids were sick for 3 weeks, only one of my girls got sick, got a high fever and was sick for 3 days and then she was up and running around. What did I do, I gave her immune building vitamins, Barley Green and lots of garlic and vitamin C (a natural antibiotic) and I did knot kill her fever with drugs. Her fever killed the bug and she got well. People do so much to keep themselves sick fighting symptoms like fevers with drugs. The body is smarter than we are when it comes to healing itself, we need to learn how to assist it,not fight it. I kept her fever controlled through wet towels wrapped around her legs and arms. The body knows how to handle problems, we just need to help it, not fight it. FEAR and ignorance assists the AMA greatly in their medical genocide all for the love of money. Greed is the monstor behind the mass murdering, not a conspiriacy. They can persuade people to do the most bizarre things because the people are too lazy to learn for themselves truth and are too dependent upon so called experts. A llittle knowledge would stop the deception, but the masses are lazy and they believe everything the TV says. It is frightening. Diann This is what chemo is derived from, it was outlawed in war. <A HREF= " http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWmustard.htm " >Mustard Gas</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2000 Report Share Posted August 1, 2000 May I use this on my web? Have you completed your website? If so, what if the url, and I'll link it. You have excellent writing skills. Can you help me with my website? I plan a healthychoices.net site. Joy On 1 Aug 2000, Colleen Janssen wrote: > Some " celebrities " come to mind. Eastman-McCartney, Jackie-O. Just statistics I guess. > > Way more real to me is the people and pets that I have personally known. My neighbor . Prostate Cancer, has had a very low PSA for 6 months now after surgery and chemo. Too bad he can't wipe his own butt anymore, or carry on a " small talk " conversation as well as my Parrot. > > Then there's my friend . I have told her Pancreatic Cancer " success story " , and I'm trying to forget it. She lived 18 months past surgery. > > Then there are the Standard Poodles who died under chemotherapy, all for Lymphoma, total three. They never achieved a remission, alleged to occur in 80% of chemo-treated Lymphoma dogs. The successes must be limited to some other breed. > > There is a true success story of Lymphoma in a Standard Poodle. I have copies of her biopsies in my possesion, and I knew her through her entire life. On 9/20/93 she was diagnosed with " Malignant Lymphoma, nodular mixed cell type " Prognosis " Guarded to Poor " Comments " ...an unusual pattern for malignant lymphoma in dogs " . She had one week of chemo, landed in the hospital, and then switched to Homeopathy. On 2/26/99 (five and a half years later) diagnosed with " Desmoplastic Melanoma confirmed by S100A stain strongly positive " (Vince, does Lymphoma jump lines, or is this unrelated?) Comments " the desmoplatic variant of melanoma has not previously been reported in dogs. A second opinion on this interesting case was generously provided by... " . And finally, on 12/27/99 diagnosed " Amelanotic Malignant Melanoma " . The tumors in her mouth pushed out her teeth and she was euthanized in March 2000 as she would not eat. Her therapy in every instance was primarily homeopathic. > > My own Standard Poodle diagnosed 3/20/2000. Still in remission and looks like a puppy at eight years of age. Zero invasive, Zero toxic, Zero " traditional " therapy. (not a prednisone tablet) The " kitchen sink " of Alternatives. > > There is the dog trainer who after " getting her affairs in order " has been cancer-free for over three years. Homeopathic and Essiac tea after failed surgery. > > There is my friend with Pancreatic Cancer diagnosed just 5/22/00. Still working, and had her stent replaced with a larger one today. (She was jaundicing during de-tox). No tumor growth since diagnosis per the surgeon (endoscopic and don't know what else). Still has all of her body parts, no chemo, no radiation. So far, nutritional and chelation therapy only, has an appointment thursday with a Homeopath. > > There was my daughter's school teacher who, four years ago was juicing veggies and taking coffee enemas for thyroid cancer. I still get her newsletters which tell of the expanded services and don't discuss her cancer. She looks well in the photos though. She refused all " traditional " therapies including Soloxine. > > There are the testimonies on the internet, real people that I don't know who have cured or managed their cancers without traditional therapies. There are historical accounts of cancer cures from every corner of the globe, back to antiquity. There are all the people and pets who have excercised PREVENTION with success, and one (nameless) skeptic on this list who just can't accept any of this. > > I am really getting bored with the traffic that this creates, and the " soap opera " that has developed. I'm assuming that there are people like myself, who joined this list looking for information. I believe that the (nameless) skeptic is having his way with this list. > > Can anybody give me a comparison between Wobenzym N and Viokase? The information seems to be stated in different terms for each product. Which is best for Pancreatic Cancer, or should she use both? > > -Colleen > colleen@... > > > > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2000 Report Share Posted August 1, 2000 Colleen, I was impressed with your post. You covered a lot of ground quickly. I don't know if and Jackie mean much here. was into natural stuff, and Jackie a big cigarette smoker. We don't really know what all they did. They both had a ton of money and influential family and friends. I think they would know of a conspiracy to hide cancer cures, and how to access the real cures. As for the anecdotes you give. For me it's not nearly enough information, though the little information you give does favor natural methods most here would likely conclude. Thank you for posting. I've done my best to give what I consider good information. Much else would likely just keep things in turmoil. I have been given cause to consider some things more closely. As for the oncology bashing and conspiracy theory stuff, well I still don't buy it mostly, but maybe it has substance. has little credibility with me. His sweeping statements are often such exaggerations, I'm hesitant to accept anything he says. He has an agenda, and attacks what he feels doesn't fit into his worldview. I don't buy it, but some do. I want to try and understand the whole cancer situation. This list has given me insight into the world of alternatives like no other. I will do my best to allow for all possibilities. I don't know, as many of us here don't know, what all the facts are. As has been mentioned here before, we must form our own opinions to the best of our abilities. Best regards, Bill Ross Bill Ross Colleen Janssen wrote: > Some " celebrities " come to mind. Eastman-McCartney, Jackie-O. Just statistics I guess. > > Way more real to me is the people and pets that I have personally known. My neighbor . Prostate Cancer, has had a very low PSA for 6 months now after surgery and chemo. Too bad he can't wipe his own butt anymore, or carry on a " small talk " conversation as well as my Parrot. > > Then there's my friend . I have told her Pancreatic Cancer " success story " , and I'm trying to forget it. She lived 18 months past surgery. > > Then there are the Standard Poodles who died under chemotherapy, all for Lymphoma, total three. They never achieved a remission, alleged to occur in 80% of chemo-treated Lymphoma dogs. The successes must be limited to some other breed. > > There is a true success story of Lymphoma in a Standard Poodle. I have copies of her biopsies in my possesion, and I knew her through her entire life. On 9/20/93 she was diagnosed with " Malignant Lymphoma, nodular mixed cell type " Prognosis " Guarded to Poor " Comments " ...an unusual pattern for malignant lymphoma in dogs " . She had one week of chemo, landed in the hospital, and then switched to Homeopathy. On 2/26/99 (five and a half years later) diagnosed with " Desmoplastic Melanoma confirmed by S100A stain strongly positive " (Vince, does Lymphoma jump lines, or is this unrelated?) Comments " the desmoplatic variant of melanoma has not previously been reported in dogs. A second opinion on this interesting case was generously provided by... " . And finally, on 12/27/99 diagnosed " Amelanotic Malignant Melanoma " . The tumors in her mouth pushed out her teeth and she was euthanized in March 2000 as she would not eat. Her therapy in every instance was primarily homeopathic. > > My own Standard Poodle diagnosed 3/20/2000. Still in remission and looks like a puppy at eight years of age. Zero invasive, Zero toxic, Zero " traditional " therapy. (not a prednisone tablet) The " kitchen sink " of Alternatives. > > There is the dog trainer who after " getting her affairs in order " has been cancer-free for over three years. Homeopathic and Essiac tea after failed surgery. > > There is my friend with Pancreatic Cancer diagnosed just 5/22/00. Still working, and had her stent replaced with a larger one today. (She was jaundicing during de-tox). No tumor growth since diagnosis per the surgeon (endoscopic and don't know what else). Still has all of her body parts, no chemo, no radiation. So far, nutritional and chelation therapy only, has an appointment thursday with a Homeopath. > > There was my daughter's school teacher who, four years ago was juicing veggies and taking coffee enemas for thyroid cancer. I still get her newsletters which tell of the expanded services and don't discuss her cancer. She looks well in the photos though. She refused all " traditional " therapies including Soloxine. > > There are the testimonies on the internet, real people that I don't know who have cured or managed their cancers without traditional therapies. There are historical accounts of cancer cures from every corner of the globe, back to antiquity. There are all the people and pets who have excercised PREVENTION with success, and one (nameless) skeptic on this list who just can't accept any of this. > > I am really getting bored with the traffic that this creates, and the " soap opera " that has developed. I'm assuming that there are people like myself, who joined this list looking for information. I believe that the (nameless) skeptic is having his way with this list. > > Can anybody give me a comparison between Wobenzym N and Viokase? The information seems to be stated in different terms for each product. Which is best for Pancreatic Cancer, or should she use both? > > -Colleen > colleen@... > > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. 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Guest guest Posted August 1, 2000 Report Share Posted August 1, 2000 In a message dated 8/1/00 11:12:11 AM Central Daylight Time, lovebon@... writes: << Go and Sin No More. To me this means, go and don't lack FAITH , the body can only heal when we have the Faith of a grain of mustard seed, and the Wisdom from God on how to do it. The one thing none of us can escape is death of the physical body, and only God knows when our time is up on this earth, and it is time to move to another existence where the physical body is not needed any more. Our bodies is only our temporary house to live in. FOR ME, I NEED AND WANT TO BELIEVE THIS, ELSE I HAVE NO REASON TO CARE, OR LOVE ANYONE DUE TO THE PAIN FROM FEAR AND NO HOPE. FEAR AN NO HOPE IS AN EMPTY AND DARK EXISTENCE WHERE LIGHT DOES NOT SHINE. >> Amen to this and I just want to add to our faith and remember that Jesus said to us to not fear for He has overcome the world and also that Jesus has given us all authority over scorpions and serpants (devils) and all the powers of the devil. In His Name we can take authority over fear,sickness and even death has lost it's sting. We have been given eternal life. Heb 11:1 1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. (NKJ) Heb 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him. (NKJ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2000 Report Share Posted August 1, 2000 Diann...and whom ever chooses to take the time to read.. There are a lot of testimonies of people who get cured of cancer by changing their diet and getting off poisons, to include chemo. This was the first thing I had to learn to do..my family's, eating habits had been getting to the point we wasn't careful..because I would fix for my picky children and husband, just what they wanted to eat, rather it was good or bad for them, and because I didn't have the time to prepare another meal for myself, when I was to busy in my career.( Dress Designing, teaching and writing drama, freelancing,and teaching art,etc ) I ate what they liked.And sooner or later we all paid for it. ( Diann says, )Taking three teas, Pau D'Arco, Chaparral, and Red Clover and lots of Barley Green. This is also one method I used in helping to rid of the Melanoma..and some of these products were also used in my cancer salve..( for what that is worth to some of you..Subject now STOPPED!, and you figure it out. ) But my point is using the right things like Diann says, with wisdom, and not go overbard with it, we can find a means to cure ourself of many disease this old'world likes to send upon us.Her husband is a doctor and FEARED her not taking the chemo. And if your friend would have listened to her husband, she would have left his fear interfer, and she herself would have become in a fearing state as well. FEAR is the enemies tool and the devil this time you can definetly say " The Devil made me do IT",You see fear drives people to do ANYTHING, even if it is stupid, they will submit out of fear. In my case, my husband had to convinec me that I didn't dare fear..that I was not going to get well letting my worst of all thoughts take over. And for you that have read or knew of my ordeal, knows I had many evil thoughts that had crossed my mind..but after I took hold and made up my mind that I wanted to save my leg from aumputation..this is when I started to see the positive healing begin to happen. Being told I had the worst kind of melanoma, that in itself now was a " FEAR ", imbedded in my mind..this was the step one that the devil was eager to have open. For now he was able to pester me with more, and more fear, no matter how big it was that came through that open door, the doctor had just now opened..not intentionally, but the news was that cracked ( or jarred door that told the mind.." Now Judy you have to fear this cancer. For it is not something to be cured." his exact words. " but it can be stopped at the knee, that is 'IF' it hasn't already taken over the liver." Oh me !..now the second fear, was creeping in, and more thoughts. Do you now understand what it is about fear? It does not compute. Only ignorance and fear can ruin logic like that. There are many people like ( Diann's, friend,) but unfortunately FEAR usually gets the majority of them to commit medical induced suicide. ( Below )..is Diann's words, I will add to this again in red )a bad flu was going around and kids were sick for 3 weeks, only one of my girls got sick, got a high fever and was sick for 3 days and then she was up and running around. What did I do, I gave her immune building vitamins, Barley Green and lots of garlic and vitamin C (a natural antibiotic) and I did knot kill her fever with drugs. Her fever killed the bug and she got well. People do so much to keep themselves sick fighting symptoms like fevers with drugs. The body is smarter than we are when it comes to healing itself, we need to learn how to assist it,not fight it. I kept her fever controlled through wet towels wrapped around her legs and arms. The body knows how to handle problems, we just need to help it, not fight it. When I first married in 1956, and in 1967, started my family of six children..not quit up the stair steps, two had 8 years between them..during my peek career time. And during the year from 1957-1990's, while they were growing up. My Indian ( Cherokee ) home brews were none other than vinegar, baths..by rubbing down the body in pure apple cider, ( with Mother in it ) And going to the creek-bed and gathering the gray clay along the banks of the shell (used to make brick ). Sometimes not easy to find in Ohio. But we often times would go to Roseville, where they make some pottery and buy clay. A clay bath and vinegar may sound gross, but within a matter off a sleep-off, you wake up afresh. When the clay drys, you go back to a spring water and cleans it off..now the flesh is not only cooled down, but you have a beauty bath you've never dreamed possible. Another method from another grand-parent is slimmy use of tobacco-juices..( made frist by soaking chewing- tobacco, in a glass of warm milk-fresh from bossy ( some said goat milk worked better )..or the vinegar added to the tobacco it.) Now when I had the cancer. An Amishman told me from Wisconsin, when I had a fever, ( which is natural, sometimes in removing cancer from the body, for it has got to get out somehow, even through the pores ..but when to uncomfortable, I was to,put in the navel ( belly-button ) as much vinegar as it would hold. Lay real still, so it won't ooze out..but let the skin absorb the healing medication..and when I'd wake up ( if I fell asleep, ) he said the fever will be ceased..( HE WAS RIGHT )..or if I laid there and meditated on the good things in life, and in my mind tell the fear to go away..I would soon be on a road to recovery. Looking back now , I know this was the one main ingredient, that was the beginning of my healing, soul, mind and body. For as long as I had my mind on keeping this vinegar from running out, my mind could stay focused on nothing else to fear me..Fear I dared not let creep in..not even into one tiny crack of that devils open door.>FEAR and ignorance assists the AMA greatly in their medical genocide all for the love of money. Greed is the monstor behind the mass murdering, not a conspiriacy. They can persuade people to do the most bizarre things because the people are too lazy to learn for themselves truth and are too dependent upon so called experts. A llittle knowledge would stop the deception,God will many times use the foolishness, in order to show us that he is still the master of all the creation's,.. this encludes the things that he put upon the earth in plants, etc, for us to use wisely but the masses are lazy and they believe everything the TV says.And yes, in everything that comes acrossed the Email, and web, we often get carried into a frizzy..fearing the worst is about to take place. We get scare tactics..and this is because we don't search for ourselves what is right to do..Our minds gets clogged with negatives instead of positive thinking. It is frightening. Diann & JudyThis is what chemo is derived from, it was outlawed in war. <A HREF="http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWmustard.htm">Mustard Gas</A> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2000 Report Share Posted August 1, 2000 I have been reading Mis Judy's remarks below on fear. - That is what is driving me right now, I am so afraid for , I am nearly out of my mind with fear. So far all my praying, all my trusting in God, and all my questions, have done nothing to alleviate the fear. When we were told by the Dr. that had cancer he never explained anything, never let us see the bonescans and x-rays, and didn't discuss anything with us except that had stage 4 prostate cancer, and he was going to give him lupron and casodex. When I tried to ask any questions he gave me a useless booklet that explains nothing, except that lupron and casodex doesn't cure cancer. I wasn't too reassured about that, the next sentence said that these medications are given to make the cancer patients remaining time more comfortable. Imagine how I felt when I read that, and yet to today the Dr. has never discussed case or told us what to expect or not expect or just how serious it really is Then i read that prostate cancer is only bad if it spreads out of the prostate, and cancer has done that, more fear, Until I started reading cliff's, judy's, and debbie's, and vincent and bill's messages, fear was getting a stranglehold on me. Then came the HOPE but i have hope one day and fear the next, All hidden from , because if I show fear it could hurt him. As long as i am confident and smiling and "happy" is fine, but when things get me down, he is not. I pray to God, I cuss out doctors, I read study and learn, but god help me the fear is still there. Today is one of my worst days i have had for fear. I can't write any more Fw: Celebrities Diann...and whom ever chooses to take the time to read.. There are a lot of testimonies of people who get cured of cancer by changing their diet and getting off poisons, to include chemo. This was the first thing I had to learn to do..my family's, eating habits had been getting to the point we wasn't careful..because I would fix for my picky children and husband, just what they wanted to eat, rather it was good or bad for them, and because I didn't have the time to prepare another meal for myself, when I was to busy in my career.( Dress Designing, teaching and writing drama, freelancing,and teaching art,etc ) I ate what they liked.And sooner or later we all paid for it. ( Diann says, )Taking three teas, Pau D'Arco, Chaparral, and Red Clover and lots of Barley Green. This is also one method I used in helping to rid of the Melanoma..and some of these products were also used in my cancer salve..( for what that is worth to some of you..Subject now STOPPED!, and you figure it out. ) But my point is using the right things like Diann says, with wisdom, and not go overbard with it, we can find a means to cure ourself of many disease this old'world likes to send upon us.Her husband is a doctor and FEARED her not taking the chemo. And if your friend would have listened to her husband, she would have left his fear interfer, and she herself would have become in a fearing state as well. FEAR is the enemies tool and the devil this time you can definetly say " The Devil made me do IT",You see fear drives people to do ANYTHING, even if it is stupid, they will submit out of fear. In my case, my husband had to convinec me that I didn't dare fear..that I was not going to get well letting my worst of all thoughts take over. And for you that have read or knew of my ordeal, knows I had many evil thoughts that had crossed my mind..but after I took hold and made up my mind that I wanted to save my leg from aumputation..this is when I started to see the positive healing begin to happen. Being told I had the worst kind of melanoma, that in itself now was a " FEAR ", imbedded in my mind..this was the step one that the devil was eager to have open. For now he was able to pester me with more, and more fear, no matter how big it was that came through that open door, the doctor had just now opened..not intentionally, but the news was that cracked ( or jarred door that told the mind.." Now Judy you have to fear this cancer. For it is not something to be cured." his exact words. " but it can be stopped at the knee, that is 'IF' it hasn't already taken over the liver." Oh me !..now the second fear, was creeping in, and more thoughts. Do you now understand what it is about fear? It does not compute. Only ignorance and fear can ruin logic like that. There are many people like ( Diann's, friend,) but unfortunately FEAR usually gets the majority of them to commit medical induced suicide. ( Below )..is Diann's words, I will add to this again in red )a bad flu was going around and kids were sick for 3 weeks, only one of my girls got sick, got a high fever and was sick for 3 days and then she was up and running around. What did I do, I gave her immune building vitamins, Barley Green and lots of garlic and vitamin C (a natural antibiotic) and I did knot kill her fever with drugs. Her fever killed the bug and she got well. People do so much to keep themselves sick fighting symptoms like fevers with drugs. The body is smarter than we are when it comes to healing itself, we need to learn how to assist it,not fight it. I kept her fever controlled through wet towels wrapped around her legs and arms. The body knows how to handle problems, we just need to help it, not fight it. When I first married in 1956, and in 1967, started my family of six children..not quit up the stair steps, two had 8 years between them..during my peek career time. And during the year from 1957-1990's, while they were growing up. My Indian ( Cherokee ) home brews were none other than vinegar, baths..by rubbing down the body in pure apple cider, ( with Mother in it ) And going to the creek-bed and gathering the gray clay along the banks of the shell (used to make brick ). Sometimes not easy to find in Ohio. But we often times would go to Roseville, where they make some pottery and buy clay. A clay bath and vinegar may sound gross, but within a matter off a sleep-off, you wake up afresh. When the clay drys, you go back to a spring water and cleans it off..now the flesh is not only cooled down, but you have a beauty bath you've never dreamed possible. Another method from another grand-parent is slimmy use of tobacco-juices..( made frist by soaking chewing- tobacco, in a glass of warm milk-fresh from bossy ( some said goat milk worked better )..or the vinegar added to the tobacco it.) Now when I had the cancer. An Amishman told me from Wisconsin, when I had a fever, ( which is natural, sometimes in removing cancer from the body, for it has got to get out somehow, even through the pores ..but when to uncomfortable, I was to,put in the navel ( belly-button ) as much vinegar as it would hold. Lay real still, so it won't ooze out..but let the skin absorb the healing medication..and when I'd wake up ( if I fell asleep, ) he said the fever will be ceased..( HE WAS RIGHT )..or if I laid there and meditated on the good things in life, and in my mind tell the fear to go away..I would soon be on a road to recovery. Looking back now , I know this was the one main ingredient, that was the beginning of my healing, soul, mind and body. For as long as I had my mind on keeping this vinegar from running out, my mind could stay focused on nothing else to fear me..Fear I dared not let creep in..not even into one tiny crack of that devils open door.>FEAR and ignorance assists the AMA greatly in their medical genocide all for the love of money. Greed is the monstor behind the mass murdering, not a conspiriacy. They can persuade people to do the most bizarre things because the people are too lazy to learn for themselves truth and are too dependent upon so called experts. A llittle knowledge would stop the deception,God will many times use the foolishness, in order to show us that he is still the master of all the creation's,.. this encludes the things that he put upon the earth in plants, etc, for us to use wisely but the masses are lazy and they believe everything the TV says.And yes, in everything that comes acrossed the Email, and web, we often get carried into a frizzy..fearing the worst is about to take place. We get scare tactics..and this is because we don't search for ourselves what is right to do..Our minds gets clogged with negatives instead of positive thinking. It is frightening. Diann & JudyThis is what chemo is derived from, it was outlawed in war. <A HREF="http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWmustard.htm">Mustard Gas</A> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2000 Report Share Posted August 1, 2000 Rustey I know exactly how you feel, my husband had his entire lung removed due to non small cell Cancer, now his last scan shows spots the size of grains of rice on the other lung. This scan is before the things we are using to help him, now the other x-rays and scans will allow us to see it work and heal him. In Jan. of this year, my third daughter lay at deaths door for fifteen days, the Power of Prayer and an experimental treatment where they put liquid into her lungs to seal them, and float the in infection up, saved her life. Two weeks after she was released my husband was told he had Cancer of the lung. Now my youngest daughter is getting ready for Cervical Cone Surgery due to fourth level pre- Cancer that has spread to a gland while she was carrying her baby that is now four months old. Last Friday I had to take my fifteen year old kitty to the Vet for a blood test to see if her kidneys are shutting down, or she has Sugar Diabetes. I will call today to hear the results. Does FEAR creep in????? When I allow it too! What I tell my self is; God cannot give me help and guidance for the one's I love if FEAR shuts him out. If I get down sick I will only create more for everyone to deal with, and it will not serve anyone. When I see someone post something to aid their recovery, I take it to God in Prayer and ask him to give me the wisdom to make the right choices to help them heal with his Power. I focus on the facts that Doctors are only human, and people make mistakes for various reasons, only God has all of the facts. I know that MARICLES happen, and they are real, else my daughter would be dead. God sent the Lord to be her Doctor to get her what she needed. I did not see the Lord, but I can tell you that events before she even went to the Hospital led her to Healing. We had to make decisions every day that allowed God to give us a MARICLE with her. While she was so ill, I cried, I screamed at God WHY does he let people suffer and die! I went from screaming to begging........ Then I remembered a Prayer that I Prayed a very long time ago; God; what ever is best for my loved one's soul for eternity, do your will, and give me the strength and wisdom to accept that you know what is best . THIS WAS THE HARDEST PRAYER I EVER PRAYED! I had to give up the Power that I thought I had to make things better, and depend on the POWER of God. We tend to think we can help someone by ourselves, and we can't. WE NEED GOD TO HANDLE IT FOR US ,becasue FAITH and FEAR cannot occupy the mind at the same time. FEAR destroys, and FAITH heals!!!! Jesus, Budda, Mohammed, and all of the teachers of Love and Faith told us, everything has been supplied on this earth that we need to be healthy, and to heal us when we are not. I don't put down someone else's religion because I have read and seen all believe in Love, and a God who is so superior to us that can create worlds, and the entire universe. Without believing this, WE HAVE NO HOPE IN ANYTHING BUT PAIN AND DESTRUCTION. People make mistakes; but if we listen for God to guide us when we are quiet, he will lead us to what is right, even when people say do something else. Trusting that inner guidance is the important thing, call it intuition, or what ever you choose. TRUSTING A HIGHER POWER, HAVING FAITH IT WILL BE RIGHT NO MATTER WHAT IT IS, AND ASKING FOR STRENGTH TO HELP US ACCEPT IT IS THE KEY. Put your Fear in a box marked, THINGS FOR JESUS TO DO, then let go of it and let JESUS do it. On the days when my Faith is low, I will need for all of you to remind me of these things, this will give me strength to enjoy the moment I am in with my loved ones, instead of worrying about tomorrow that no man knows about. Staying in the moment is not easy unless we help each other with UNDERSTANDING, RESPECT, and SHARING WHAT WE KNOW THAT HAS HELPED OTHERS TO HEAL. Then we can take it to the Lord in Prayer to help us sort out what is best for us, and our loved one's. FAITH is what makes medicine work, herbs work, and anything else that will HEAL us. FAITH, and asking for GOD'S WISDOM is what helps us to know when a doctor's opinion is right for us, or wrong for us. Nothing can help us unless we believe that it can, and knowing that our wisdom has come from God, not man.................................DISEASE is from DIS EASE of the mind. When Jesus healed he said; Go and Sin No More. To me this means, go and don't lack FAITH , the body can only heal when we have the Faith of a grain of mustard seed, and the Wisdom from God on how to do it. The one thing none of us can escape is death of the physical body, and only God knows when our time is up on this earth, and it is time to move to another existence where the physical body is not needed any more. Our bodies is only our temporary house to live in. FOR ME, I NEED AND WANT TO BELIEVE THIS, ELSE I HAVE NO REASON TO CARE, OR LOVE ANYONE DUE TO THE PAIN FROM FEAR AND NO HOPE. FEAR AN NO HOPE IS AN EMPTY AND DARK EXISTENCE WHERE LIGHT DOES NOT SHINE. May Love, Strength, and GOD'S WISDOM for all of us who want it, be our's from Prayer which is asking, and meditation which is listening to GOD!!!!! If we don't believe that there is something or someone greater than us, we have no true purpose on earth except to live for the moment with no hope of anything better beyond here. Life has no meaning if we believe this is all there is, or ever will be. Bonnie Fw: Celebrities Diann...and whom ever chooses to take the time to read.. There are a lot of testimonies of people who get cured of cancer by changing their diet and getting off poisons, to include chemo. This was the first thing I had to learn to do..my family's, eating habits had been getting to the point we wasn't careful..because I would fix for my picky children and husband, just what they wanted to eat, rather it was good or bad for them, and because I didn't have the time to prepare another meal for myself, when I was to busy in my career.( Dress Designing, teaching and writing drama, freelancing,and teaching art,etc ) I ate what they liked.And sooner or later we all paid for it. ( Diann says, )Taking three teas, Pau D'Arco, Chaparral, and Red Clover and lots of Barley Green. This is also one method I used in helping to rid of the Melanoma..and some of these products were also used in my cancer salve..( for what that is worth to some of you..Subject now STOPPED!, and you figure it out. ) But my point is using the right things like Diann says, with wisdom, and not go overbard with it, we can find a means to cure ourself of many disease this old'world likes to send upon us. Her husband is a doctor and FEARED her not taking the chemo. And if your friend would have listened to her husband, she would have left his fear interfer, and she herself would have become in a fearing state as well. FEAR is the enemies tool and the devil this time you can definetly say " The Devil made me do IT " ,You see fear drives people to do ANYTHING, even if it is stupid, they will submit out of fear. In my case, my husband had to convinec me that I didn't dare fear..that I was not going to get well letting my worst of all thoughts take over. And for you that have read or knew of my ordeal, knows I had many evil thoughts that had crossed my mind..but after I took hold and made up my mind that I wanted to save my leg from aumputation..this is when I started to see the positive healing begin to happen. Being told I had the worst kind of melanoma, that in itself now was a " FEAR " , imbedded in my mind..this was the step one that the devil was eager to have open. For now he was able to pester me with more, and more fear, no matter how big it was that came through that open door, the doctor had just now opened..not intentionally, but the news was that cracked ( or jarred door that told the mind.. " Now Judy you have to fear this cancer. For it is not something to be cured. " his exact words. " but it can be stopped at the knee, that is 'IF' it hasn't already taken over the liver. " Oh me !..now the second fear, was creeping in, and more thoughts. Do you now understand what it is about fear? It does not compute. Only ignorance and fear can ruin logic like that. There are many people like ( Diann's, friend,) but unfortunately FEAR usually gets the majority of them to commit medical induced suicide. ( Below )..is Diann's words, I will add to this again in red ) a bad flu was going around and kids were sick for 3 weeks, only one of my girls got sick, got a high fever and was sick for 3 days and then she was up and running around. What did I do, I gave her immune building vitamins, Barley Green and lots of garlic and vitamin C (a natural antibiotic) and I did knot kill her fever with drugs. Her fever killed the bug and she got well. People do so much to keep themselves sick fighting symptoms like fevers with drugs. The body is smarter than we are when it comes to healing itself, we need to learn how to assist it,not fight it. I kept her fever controlled through wet towels wrapped around her legs and arms. The body knows how to handle problems, we just need to help it, not fight it. When I first married in 1956, and in 1967, started my family of six children..not quit up the stair steps, two had 8 years between them..during my peek career time. And during the year from 1957-1990's, while they were growing up. My Indian ( Cherokee ) home brews were none other than vinegar, baths..by rubbing down the body in pure apple cider, ( with Mother in it ) And going to the creek-bed and gathering the gray clay along the banks of the shell (used to make brick ). Sometimes not easy to find in Ohio. But we often times would go to Roseville, where they make some pottery and buy clay. A clay bath and vinegar may sound gross, but within a matter off a sleep-off, you wake up afresh. When the clay drys, you go back to a spring water and cleans it off..now the flesh is not only cooled down, but you have a beauty bath you've never dreamed possible. Another method from another grand-parent is slimmy use of tobacco-juices..( made frist by soaking chewing- tobacco, in a glass of warm milk-fresh from bossy ( some said goat milk worked better )..or the vinegar added to the tobacco it.) Now when I had the cancer. An Amishman told me from Wisconsin, when I had a fever, ( which is natural, sometimes in removing cancer from the body, for it has got to get out somehow, even through the pores ..but when to uncomfortable, I was to,put in the navel ( belly-button ) as much vinegar as it would hold. Lay real still, so it won't ooze out..but let the skin absorb the healing medication..and when I'd wake up ( if I fell asleep, ) he said the fever will be ceased..( HE WAS RIGHT )..or if I laid there and meditated on the good things in life, and in my mind tell the fear to go away..I would soon be on a road to recovery. Looking back now , I know this was the one main ingredient, that was the beginning of my healing, soul, mind and body. For as long as I had my mind on keeping this vinegar from running out, my mind could stay focused on nothing else to fear me..Fear I dared not let creep in..not even into one tiny crack of that devils open door. >FEAR and ignorance assists the AMA greatly in their medical genocide all for the love of money. Greed is the monstor behind the mass murdering, not a conspiriacy. They can persuade people to do the most bizarre things because the people are too lazy to learn for themselves truth and are too dependent upon so called experts. A llittle knowledge would stop the deception,God will many times use the foolishness, in order to show us that he is still the master of all the creation's,.. this encludes the things that he put upon the earth in plants, etc, for us to use wisely but the masses are lazy and they believe everything the TV says.And yes, in everything that comes acrossed the Email, and web, we often get carried into a frizzy..fearing the worst is about to take place. We get scare tactics..and this is because we don't search for ourselves what is right to do..Our minds gets clogged with negatives instead of positive thinking. It is frightening. Diann & Judy This is what chemo is derived from, it was outlawed in war. <A HREF= " http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWmustard.htm " >Mustard Gas</A> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2000 Report Share Posted August 1, 2000 You and Miz Judy have helped me to feel full in hope today, we do help to lift each other out of fear and hopelessness. Thank You So Much, my cup needs messages like this in order to be filled. instead of empty from FEAR. Love and God's Light be with all of you! Bonnie Re: Celebrities > In a message dated 8/1/00 11:12:11 AM Central Daylight Time, lovebon@... > writes: > > << Go and Sin No More. To me this means, go and don't lack FAITH , the body > can only heal when we have the Faith of a grain of mustard seed, and the > Wisdom from God on how to do it. The one thing none of us can escape is death > of the physical body, and only God knows when our time is up on this earth, > and it is time to move to another existence where the physical body is not > needed any more. Our bodies is only our temporary house to live in. FOR ME, I > NEED AND WANT TO BELIEVE THIS, ELSE I HAVE NO REASON TO CARE, OR LOVE ANYONE > DUE TO THE PAIN FROM FEAR AND NO HOPE. FEAR AN NO HOPE IS AN EMPTY AND DARK > EXISTENCE WHERE LIGHT DOES NOT SHINE. >> > > > Amen to this and I just want to add to our faith and remember that Jesus said > to us to not fear for He has overcome the world and also that Jesus has given > us all authority over scorpions and serpants (devils) and all the powers of > the devil. In His Name we can take authority over fear,sickness and even > death has lost it's sting. We have been given eternal life. > > > Heb 11:1 > 1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things > not seen. > (NKJ) > Heb 11:6 > 6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God > must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently > seek Him. > (NKJ) > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2000 Report Share Posted August 1, 2000 Bonnie: You hit the nail right on the head - I do tend to think i can do things I can't, and have just realized that I can't. Since I started on here three weeks ago, , who weighed 205 and is 6 feet tall , now weighs 185 and has become very tired and is sleeping most of the time, just too tired to do much of anlytlhing. I have had him on flax and cottage cheese for 10 days now, and barlean's greens. I can't make him well, or even feel better, and it is reallly getting to me. He is sleeping now. He was always extremely active and busy, it is breaking my heart. Fw: Celebrities > > > > Diann...and whom ever chooses to take the time to read.. > > There are a lot of testimonies of people who get cured of cancer by changing their diet and getting off poisons, to include chemo. This was the first thing I had to learn to do..my family's, eating habits had been getting to the point we wasn't careful..because I would fix for my picky children and husband, just what they wanted to eat, rather it was good or bad for them, and because I didn't have the time to prepare another meal for myself, when I was to busy in my career.( Dress Designing, teaching and writing drama, freelancing,and teaching art,etc ) I ate what they liked.And sooner or later we all paid for it. > > ( Diann says, )Taking three teas, Pau D'Arco, Chaparral, and Red Clover and lots of Barley Green. This is also one method I used in helping to rid of the Melanoma..and some of these products were also used in my cancer salve..( for what that is worth to some of you..Subject now STOPPED!, and you figure it out. ) But my point is using the right things like Diann says, with wisdom, and not go overbard with it, we can find a means to cure ourself of many disease this old'world likes to send upon us. > Her husband is a doctor and FEARED her not taking the > chemo. And if your friend would have listened to her husband, she would have left his fear interfer, and she herself would have become in a fearing state as well. FEAR is the enemies tool and the devil this time you can definetly say " The Devil made me do IT " ,You see fear drives people to do ANYTHING, even if it is stupid, they > will submit out of fear. In my case, my husband had to convinec me that I didn't dare fear..that I was not going to get well letting my worst of all thoughts take over. And for you that have read or knew of my ordeal, knows I had many evil thoughts that had crossed my mind..but after I took hold and made up my mind that I wanted to save my leg from aumputation..this is when I started to see the positive healing begin to happen. Being told I had the worst kind of melanoma, that in itself now was a " FEAR " , imbedded in my mind..this was the step one that the devil was eager to have open. For now he was able to pester me with more, and more fear, no matter how big it was that came through that open door, the doctor had just now opened..not intentionally, but the news was that cracked ( or jarred door that told the mind.. " Now Judy you have to fear this cancer. For it is not something to be cured. " his exact words. " but it can be stopped at the knee, that is 'IF' it hasn't already taken over the liver. " Oh me !..now the second fear, was creeping in, and more thoughts. Do you now understand what it is about fear? It does not compute. Only ignorance and fear can ruin logic like that. > There are many people like ( Diann's, friend,) but unfortunately FEAR usually gets the majority of them to commit medical induced suicide. > > ( Below )..is Diann's words, I will add to this again in red ) > a bad flu was going around and kids were sick for 3 weeks, only one of my girls got sick, got a high fever and was sick for 3 days and then she was up and running around. What did I do, I gave her immune building vitamins, Barley Green and lots of garlic and vitamin C (a natural antibiotic) and I > did knot kill her fever with drugs. Her fever killed the bug and she got well. People do so much to keep themselves sick fighting symptoms like fevers with drugs. The body is smarter than we are when it comes to healing itself, we need to learn how to assist it,not fight it. I kept her fever > controlled through wet towels wrapped around her legs and arms. The body knows how to handle problems, we just need to help it, not fight it. When I first married in 1956, and in 1967, started my family of six children..not quit up the stair steps, two had 8 years between them..during my peek career time. And during the year from 1957-1990's, while they were growing up. My Indian ( Cherokee ) home brews were none other than vinegar, baths..by rubbing down the body in pure apple cider, ( with Mother in it ) And going to the creek-bed and gathering the gray clay along the banks of the shell (used to make brick ). Sometimes not easy to find in Ohio. But we often times would go to Roseville, where they make some pottery and buy clay. A clay bath and vinegar may sound gross, but within a matter off a sleep-off, you wake up afresh. When the clay drys, you go back to a spring water and cleans it off..now the flesh is not only cooled down, but you have a beauty bath you've never dreamed possible. Another method from another grand-parent is slimmy use of tobacco-juices..( made frist by soaking chewing- tobacco, in a glass of warm milk-fresh from bossy ( some said goat milk worked better )..or the vinegar added to the tobacco it.) Now when I had the cancer. An Amishman told me from Wisconsin, when I had a fever, ( which is natural, sometimes in removing cancer from the body, for it has got to get out somehow, even through the pores ..but when to uncomfortable, I was to,put in the navel ( belly-button ) as much vinegar as it would hold. Lay real still, so it won't ooze out..but let the skin absorb the healing medication..and when I'd wake up ( if I fell asleep, ) he said the fever will be ceased..( HE WAS RIGHT )..or if I laid there and meditated on the good things in life, and in my mind tell the fear to go away..I would soon be on a road to recovery. Looking back now , I know this was the one main ingredient, that was the beginning of my healing, soul, mind and body. For as long as I had my mind on keeping this! > ! > vinegar from running out, my mind could stay focused on nothing else to fear me..Fear I dared not let creep in..not even into one tiny crack of that devils open door. > > >FEAR and ignorance assists the AMA greatly in their medical genocide all for the love of money. Greed is the monstor behind the mass murdering, not a conspiriacy. They can persuade people to do the most bizarre things because > the people are too lazy to learn for themselves truth and are too dependent upon so called experts. A llittle knowledge would stop the deception,God will many times use the foolishness, in order to show us that he is still the master of all the creation's,.. this encludes the things that he put upon the earth in plants, etc, for us to use wisely but the masses are lazy and they believe everything the TV says.And yes, in everything that comes acrossed the Email, and web, we often get carried into a frizzy..fearing the worst is about to take place. We get scare tactics..and this is because we don't search for ourselves what is right to do..Our minds gets clogged with negatives instead of positive thinking. It is frightening. Diann & Judy > > > This is what chemo is derived from, it was outlawed in war. <A > HREF= " http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWmustard.htm " >Mustard Gas</A> > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2000 Report Share Posted August 1, 2000 Colleen sez: > There is a true success story of Lymphoma in a Standard Poodle. I have copies of her biopsies in my possesion, and I knew her through her entire life. On 9/20/93 she was diagnosed with " Malignant Lymphoma, nodular mixed cell type " Prognosis " Guarded to Poor " Comments " ...an unusual pattern for malignant lymphoma in dogs " . She had one week of chemo, landed in the hospital, and then switched to Homeopathy. On 2/26/99 (five and a half years later) diagnosed with " Desmoplastic Melanoma confirmed by S100A stain strongly positive " (Vince, does Lymphoma jump lines, or is this unrelated?) Comments " the desmoplatic variant of melanoma has not previously been reported in dogs. A second opinion on this interesting case was generously provided by... " . And finally, on 12/27/99 diagnosed " Amelanotic Malignant Melanoma " . Colleen, This was a nice presentation of your experiences. Any single case can be picked apart (divide and conquer), but the strong pattern makes for a powerful inductive argument that when it comes to cancer your friends should listen to you! Cancers, lymphomas, leukemias, etc, do not jump cell lines. The diagnosis based on histology is often difficult as many different anomalies can be seen. The major anomalies can be addressed by a well-chosen therapy, and that may kill most of the cancer cells. The cancer cells that remain are cells that have other oncogenic anomalies in their chromosomes and this is reflected in their phenotype and ultimately the label bestowed by the histopathologist. In a sense these atypical anomalies have now been chemo-selected for survival and now have lebensraum. The sad news is that these cells tend to be resistant to other types of chemo that have not been used, and they may even be resistant to some of the more effective natural therapies. Although radiation and many chemotherapies can and do cause cancer, this is usually not the case. In the vast majority of cases it is a variation of the original cancer that was not adequately dispatched. Whatever kind of therapy a person chooses, it is extremely important to follow up with a life-style change and a long term immunotherapy. (Sorry, I know I'm preaching to the choir!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2001 Report Share Posted November 10, 2001 You're right, Dawn! Farrah was on smack; Margot is on a host of mind-altering drugs for bi-polar. And Kate's pretty much out of the limelight. They're all pretty much over the hill, Tim!!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2001 Report Share Posted November 10, 2001 You're right, Dawn! Farrah was on smack; Margot is on a host of mind-altering drugs for bi-polar. And Kate's pretty much out of the limelight. They're all pretty much over the hill, Tim!!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2001 Report Share Posted November 10, 2001 You're right, Dawn! Farrah was on smack; Margot is on a host of mind-altering drugs for bi-polar. And Kate's pretty much out of the limelight. They're all pretty much over the hill, Tim!!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2001 Report Share Posted November 10, 2001 You're right, Dawn! Farrah was on smack; Margot is on a host of mind-altering drugs for bi-polar. And Kate's pretty much out of the limelight. They're all pretty much over the hill, Tim!!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2001 Report Share Posted November 10, 2001 Tim, Certainly you don't want to hook up with Farrah... that woman is definitely on drugs! And, I believe Margot is happily married.. She lives in Montana on a ranch. She is also the national spokewoman for the Safe Harbor project - so if you could probably send her fan mail through them~ http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/default.htm Hey, I received the ProzacKill cards today. They look professional, but I was disappointed in the size of the print.. When we're ready to print new ones, I'm going to have to find someone who will print them the way I want at a reasonable charge.. Israels Warrior Tim Casey wrote: > > > Dear Sam, > > Would you please look up a few of my fantasy girlfriends for me > please ? > > Farrah Fawcett > > Kate > > Margot Kidder > > I'd appreciate their mailing addresses. Thanks > > > > Tim > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2001 Report Share Posted November 10, 2001 Tim, Certainly you don't want to hook up with Farrah... that woman is definitely on drugs! And, I believe Margot is happily married.. She lives in Montana on a ranch. She is also the national spokewoman for the Safe Harbor project - so if you could probably send her fan mail through them~ http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/default.htm Hey, I received the ProzacKill cards today. They look professional, but I was disappointed in the size of the print.. When we're ready to print new ones, I'm going to have to find someone who will print them the way I want at a reasonable charge.. Israels Warrior Tim Casey wrote: > > > Dear Sam, > > Would you please look up a few of my fantasy girlfriends for me > please ? > > Farrah Fawcett > > Kate > > Margot Kidder > > I'd appreciate their mailing addresses. Thanks > > > > Tim > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2001 Report Share Posted November 11, 2001 Dawn: I hadn't followed Margot's sojourn into the underbelly of psychiatric drugs. I do remember seeing her in one interview where she looked completely toasted and I thought to myself, "Ooops, another one bites the dust." Wonder what happened to her Safe Harbor gig. Fisher is another one; but I do believe that she really thinks that all these psych meds have helped her with her BP dx. In 's case, she did massive amounts of cocaine during the 80's which is probably what triggered her BP. Last I heard she was touting the benefits of the new miracle drugs to keep her on an even keel - meanwhile she just keeps looking more like the Hindenburg every day. The only other celebs that I'm familiar with who went the Prozac route are dead. Surely, if we beat the bushes there will be a few who come forward. I also heard that Roseanne (my least favorite human) was on Prozac. But I say we let Tim wow them with his charm and persuasive personality. HeeHee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2001 Report Share Posted November 11, 2001 Dawn: I hadn't followed Margot's sojourn into the underbelly of psychiatric drugs. I do remember seeing her in one interview where she looked completely toasted and I thought to myself, "Ooops, another one bites the dust." Wonder what happened to her Safe Harbor gig. Fisher is another one; but I do believe that she really thinks that all these psych meds have helped her with her BP dx. In 's case, she did massive amounts of cocaine during the 80's which is probably what triggered her BP. Last I heard she was touting the benefits of the new miracle drugs to keep her on an even keel - meanwhile she just keeps looking more like the Hindenburg every day. The only other celebs that I'm familiar with who went the Prozac route are dead. Surely, if we beat the bushes there will be a few who come forward. I also heard that Roseanne (my least favorite human) was on Prozac. But I say we let Tim wow them with his charm and persuasive personality. HeeHee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2001 Report Share Posted November 11, 2001 Dawn: I hadn't followed Margot's sojourn into the underbelly of psychiatric drugs. I do remember seeing her in one interview where she looked completely toasted and I thought to myself, "Ooops, another one bites the dust." Wonder what happened to her Safe Harbor gig. Fisher is another one; but I do believe that she really thinks that all these psych meds have helped her with her BP dx. In 's case, she did massive amounts of cocaine during the 80's which is probably what triggered her BP. Last I heard she was touting the benefits of the new miracle drugs to keep her on an even keel - meanwhile she just keeps looking more like the Hindenburg every day. The only other celebs that I'm familiar with who went the Prozac route are dead. Surely, if we beat the bushes there will be a few who come forward. I also heard that Roseanne (my least favorite human) was on Prozac. But I say we let Tim wow them with his charm and persuasive personality. HeeHee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2001 Report Share Posted November 11, 2001 Dawn: I hadn't followed Margot's sojourn into the underbelly of psychiatric drugs. I do remember seeing her in one interview where she looked completely toasted and I thought to myself, "Ooops, another one bites the dust." Wonder what happened to her Safe Harbor gig. Fisher is another one; but I do believe that she really thinks that all these psych meds have helped her with her BP dx. In 's case, she did massive amounts of cocaine during the 80's which is probably what triggered her BP. Last I heard she was touting the benefits of the new miracle drugs to keep her on an even keel - meanwhile she just keeps looking more like the Hindenburg every day. The only other celebs that I'm familiar with who went the Prozac route are dead. Surely, if we beat the bushes there will be a few who come forward. I also heard that Roseanne (my least favorite human) was on Prozac. But I say we let Tim wow them with his charm and persuasive personality. HeeHee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2001 Report Share Posted November 11, 2001 Glitter, Didn't you hear? Margot is now free of the drug nightmare.. and became so using alternative medicine. She has written about her personal experience and her recovery, and is reaching out to help others.. Unfortunately, she is not listed on Dan Stradford's Safe Harbor site any longer.. Not sure if she is still his spokeswoman or not... The Avenging Angel glitterari@... wrote: You're right, Dawn! Farrah was on smack; Margot is on a host of mind-altering drugs for bi-polar. And Kate's pretty much out of the limelight. They're all pretty much over the hill, Tim!!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2001 Report Share Posted November 11, 2001 Glitter, Didn't you hear? Margot is now free of the drug nightmare.. and became so using alternative medicine. She has written about her personal experience and her recovery, and is reaching out to help others.. Unfortunately, she is not listed on Dan Stradford's Safe Harbor site any longer.. Not sure if she is still his spokeswoman or not... The Avenging Angel glitterari@... wrote: You're right, Dawn! Farrah was on smack; Margot is on a host of mind-altering drugs for bi-polar. And Kate's pretty much out of the limelight. They're all pretty much over the hill, Tim!!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2001 Report Share Posted November 11, 2001 Glitter, Didn't you hear? Margot is now free of the drug nightmare.. and became so using alternative medicine. She has written about her personal experience and her recovery, and is reaching out to help others.. Unfortunately, she is not listed on Dan Stradford's Safe Harbor site any longer.. Not sure if she is still his spokeswoman or not... The Avenging Angel glitterari@... wrote: You're right, Dawn! Farrah was on smack; Margot is on a host of mind-altering drugs for bi-polar. And Kate's pretty much out of the limelight. They're all pretty much over the hill, Tim!!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2001 Report Share Posted November 11, 2001 Glitter, Didn't you hear? Margot is now free of the drug nightmare.. and became so using alternative medicine. She has written about her personal experience and her recovery, and is reaching out to help others.. Unfortunately, she is not listed on Dan Stradford's Safe Harbor site any longer.. Not sure if she is still his spokeswoman or not... The Avenging Angel glitterari@... wrote: You're right, Dawn! Farrah was on smack; Margot is on a host of mind-altering drugs for bi-polar. And Kate's pretty much out of the limelight. They're all pretty much over the hill, Tim!!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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