Support Needed Desparately

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Hello, everyone. I am a 58 yrs. old grandma of 4 and have been very

ill for a few years. I found out awhile ago it's because of the

breast implants I had put in 20 yrs. ago! Saline external

shell/silicone inside. My family doctor asked me - finally - after

months and months of complaints if I wanted to have them removed. He

has referred me to a plastic surgeon where I live (whom I saw 3 yrs.

ago when my right breast was very sore) At that time, he dismissed me

saying, " well, there's bound to be a little discomfort " . I have an

appointment to see him, as the woman doctor he was going to send me to

is on maternity leave. I am so nervous. I can barely walk and am

sick with a cold or flu all the time. Please respond with your

experience. I am so grateful to find this site. Peace to All.

[Guest guest]

Hi Sunny,

Welcome to ! . . . You are most certainly

in the right place! Our archives are full of

information. If you'll read through the old messages,

you can follow women from the time they come to the

group sick, through explanting, and back to health.

Sometimes it happens quickly - others take longer -

sometimes much longer. A lot has to do with the job

your surgeon does and how much you put into following

a healthy diet and detoxing.

The Maker's Diet is excellent! . . . It would be tough

to convert to suddenly. It's more easily doable if one

eases into it. It emphasises probiotics. We've had

excellent results with the products they recommend.

Garden of Life. If you'll Phone, FAX, or Email your

order to www.appleadayandbeyond.com, you can get an

additional discount from that shown on the website.

I just posted a message about finding a surgeon who

will remove implants properly. This is very important!

When you tell the doctor you want your implants

removed en bloc, if the doctor gives you any flack

about it - or tells you that you'll be deformed and

depressed, RUN! We can recommend doctors who will

leave you looking as good as possible given the amount

and qualtiy of tissue you have to work with. Remember

the doctor works for YOU! . . . Tell him/her what you

want done! If you don't feel right about the doctor,

find another one!

We have a number of women who had silicone gel

implants (I'm one of them.) . . . There are a few

differences between us and saline implanted health

problems, but the way back is about the same. Each of

us has to find their own way - unless they're lucky

enough to be able to find/afford a doctor who can

help. We've found naturopathic doctors are usually

better than conventional medical doctors. If you can

find a conventional doc who uses alternative

treatments, you've got a winner!

We've got a bunch of wonderful women here who want to

help. If there's anything we can help you with, please

let us know!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

I am ecstatic to receive this support! Thank you for the quick reply, Rogene. I have felt so alone with this. My family, sons & one daughter-in-law and one close girffriend have kept me going, as well as my beautiful grandkids and Cutie, the cat. I'm looking forward to chatting with all of you. Love 'n Peace>> Hi Sunny,> > Welcome to ! . . . You are most certainly> in the right place! Our archives are full of> information. If you'll read through the old messages,> you can follow women from the time they come to the> group sick, through explanting, and back to health. > > Sometimes it happens quickly - others take longer -> sometimes much longer. A lot has to do with the job> your surgeon does and how much you put into following> a healthy diet and detoxing.> > The Maker's Diet is excellent! . . . It would be tough> to convert to suddenly. It's more easily doable if one> eases into it. It emphasises probiotics. We've had> excellent results with the products they recommend.> Garden of Life. If you'll Phone, FAX, or Email your> order to www.appleadayandbeyond.com, you can get an> additional discount from that shown on the website. > > I just posted a message about finding a surgeon who> will remove implants properly. This is very important!> When you tell the doctor you want your implants> removed en bloc, if the doctor gives you any flack> about it - or tells you that you'll be deformed and> depressed, RUN! We can recommend doctors who will> leave you looking as good as possible given the amount> and qualtiy of tissue you have to work with. Remember> the doctor works for YOU! . . . Tell him/her what you> want done! If you don't feel right about the doctor,> find another one!> > We have a number of women who had silicone gel> implants (I'm one of them.) . . . There are a few> differences between us and saline implanted health> problems, but the way back is about the same. Each of> us has to find their own way - unless they're lucky> enough to be able to find/afford a doctor who can> help. We've found naturopathic doctors are usually> better than conventional medical doctors. If you can> find a conventional doc who uses alternative> treatments, you've got a winner!> > We've got a bunch of wonderful women here who want to> help. If there's anything we can help you with, please> let us know!> > Hugs and prayers,> > Rogene>

[Guest guest]

Hi - I'm sorry that you've been ill. I had implants for only 6

months because they made me sick within weeks of getting them. At

least I was lucky enough to get sick right away so that I knew

without a doubt it was the implants - but when you've had them for a

long time and feel fine for many years, often you don't relate

sudden illness with the implants. The shell breaks down over time

and allows what's inside to pass through the body, and actually the

shell itself breaking down can make us sick as well. One thing I

don't understand, though, you said saline external shell and

silicone inside. From what I understand, the shell is made of

silicone, too, not saline.

Be careful with that surgeon since he dismissed you a few years

ago. Please let us know where you live, perhaps we can guide you to

someone who might be better. You want someone skilled in removing

silicone implants to perform the surgery, and they should also

remove the capsule that forms around the implant.

Sis

>

> Hello, everyone. I am a 58 yrs. old grandma of 4 and have been

very

> ill for a few years. I found out awhile ago it's because of the

> breast implants I had put in 20 yrs. ago! Saline external

> shell/silicone inside. My family doctor asked me - finally -

after

> months and months of complaints if I wanted to have them removed.

He

> has referred me to a plastic surgeon where I live (whom I saw 3

yrs.

> ago when my right breast was very sore) At that time, he dismissed

me

> saying, " well, there's bound to be a little discomfort " . I have

an

> appointment to see him, as the woman doctor he was going to send

me to

> is on maternity leave. I am so nervous. I can barely walk and am

> sick with a cold or flu all the time. Please respond with your

> experience. I am so grateful to find this site. Peace to All.

>

[Guest guest]

I think she is describing double lumen implants, saline outer,

silicone inside pocket.

Lynda

At 09:30 AM 3/11/2006, you wrote:

>Welcome,

>

>Sis is right, there are no saline external shells. Saline is a form

>of sterilized water. It is usually given with intravenous

>fluids. If the shell was saline it would of been absorbed within

>hours of implantation. I am so sorry you are not feeling well. I

>wish we all didn't have to be here, but I am glad I have the support

>of these wonderful ladies. Without them I would still be searching

>for a reason for my sickness, now I am recovering.

>

>Hugs,

>

>

>

>auntsisnj <auntsisnj@...> wrote:

>Hi - I'm sorry that you've been ill. I had implants for only 6

>months because they made me sick within weeks of getting them. At

>least I was lucky enough to get sick right away so that I knew

>without a doubt it was the implants - but when you've had them for a

>long time and feel fine for many years, often you don't relate

>sudden illness with the implants. The shell breaks down over time

>and allows what's inside to pass through the body, and actually the

>shell itself breaking down can make us sick as well. One thing I

>don't understand, though, you said saline external shell and

>silicone inside. From what I understand, the shell is made of

>silicone, too, not saline.

>

>Be careful with that surgeon since he dismissed you a few years

>ago. Please let us know where you live, perhaps we can guide you to

>someone who might be better. You want someone skilled in removing

>silicone implants to perform the surgery, and they should also

>remove the capsule that forms around the implant.

>

>Sis

>

>

> >

> > Hello, everyone. I am a 58 yrs. old grandma of 4 and have been

>very

> > ill for a few years. I found out awhile ago it's because of the

> > breast implants I had put in 20 yrs. ago! Saline external

> > shell/silicone inside. My family doctor asked me - finally -

>after

> > months and months of complaints if I wanted to have them removed.

>He

> > has referred me to a plastic surgeon where I live (whom I saw 3

>yrs.

> > ago when my right breast was very sore) At that time, he dismissed

>me

> > saying, " well, there's bound to be a little discomfort " . I have

>an

> > appointment to see him, as the woman doctor he was going to send

>me to

> > is on maternity leave. I am so nervous. I can barely walk and am

> > sick with a cold or flu all the time. Please respond with your

> > experience. I am so grateful to find this site. Peace to All.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Yes, but many get confused with the double lumen implants. Every

implant except a few experimental ones have silicone shells.

Lynda

At 09:50 AM 3/11/2006, you wrote:

>I understand them to still be with a silicone shell, right?

>

>Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

>I think she is describing double lumen implants, saline outer,

>silicone inside pocket.

>

>Lynda

>

>At 09:30 AM 3/11/2006, you wrote:

> >Welcome,

> >

> >Sis is right, there are no saline external shells. Saline is a form

> >of sterilized water. It is usually given with intravenous

> >fluids. If the shell was saline it would of been absorbed within

> >hours of implantation. I am so sorry you are not feeling well. I

> >wish we all didn't have to be here, but I am glad I have the support

> >of these wonderful ladies. Without them I would still be searching

> >for a reason for my sickness, now I am recovering.

> >

> >Hugs,

> >

> >

> >

> >auntsisnj <auntsisnj@...> wrote:

> >Hi - I'm sorry that you've been ill. I had implants for only 6

> >months because they made me sick within weeks of getting them. At

> >least I was lucky enough to get sick right away so that I knew

> >without a doubt it was the implants - but when you've had them for a

> >long time and feel fine for many years, often you don't relate

> >sudden illness with the implants. The shell breaks down over time

> >and allows what's inside to pass through the body, and actually the

> >shell itself breaking down can make us sick as well. One thing I

> >don't understand, though, you said saline external shell and

> >silicone inside. From what I understand, the shell is made of

> >silicone, too, not saline.

> >

> >Be careful with that surgeon since he dismissed you a few years

> >ago. Please let us know where you live, perhaps we can guide you to

> >someone who might be better. You want someone skilled in removing

> >silicone implants to perform the surgery, and they should also

> >remove the capsule that forms around the implant.

> >

> >Sis

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Hello, everyone. I am a 58 yrs. old grandma of 4 and have been

> >very

> > > ill for a few years. I found out awhile ago it's because of the

> > > breast implants I had put in 20 yrs. ago! Saline external

> > > shell/silicone inside. My family doctor asked me - finally -

> >after

> > > months and months of complaints if I wanted to have them removed.

> >He

> > > has referred me to a plastic surgeon where I live (whom I saw 3

> >yrs.

> > > ago when my right breast was very sore) At that time, he dismissed

> >me

> > > saying, " well, there's bound to be a little discomfort " . I have

> >an

> > > appointment to see him, as the woman doctor he was going to send

> >me to

> > > is on maternity leave. I am so nervous. I can barely walk and am

> > > sick with a cold or flu all the time. Please respond with your

> > > experience. I am so grateful to find this site. Peace to All.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Bring photos to life!

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>

> >PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.

> >

> >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

> >by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> >licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> >mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> >decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

> >better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> >Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

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Welcome, Sis is right, there are no saline external shells. Saline is a form of sterilized water. It is usually given with intravenous fluids. If the shell was saline it would of been absorbed within hours of implantation. I am so sorry you are not feeling well. I wish we all didn't have to be here, but I am glad I have the support of these wonderful ladies. Without them I would still be searching for a reason for my sickness, now I am recovering. Hugs, auntsisnj <auntsisnj@...> wrote: Hi - I'm sorry that you've been ill. I had implants for only 6 months because they made me sick within weeks of getting them. At least I was lucky enough to get sick right away so that I knew

without a doubt it was the implants - but when you've had them for a long time and feel fine for many years, often you don't relate sudden illness with the implants. The shell breaks down over time and allows what's inside to pass through the body, and actually the shell itself breaking down can make us sick as well. One thing I don't understand, though, you said saline external shell and silicone inside. From what I understand, the shell is made of silicone, too, not saline. Be careful with that surgeon since he dismissed you a few years ago. Please let us know where you live, perhaps we can guide you to someone who might be better. You want someone skilled in removing silicone implants to perform the surgery, and they should also remove the capsule that forms around the implant.Sis--- In , "sunbowcutie" <wellnessnow@...>

wrote:>> Hello, everyone. I am a 58 yrs. old grandma of 4 and have been very > ill for a few years. I found out awhile ago it's because of the > breast implants I had put in 20 yrs. ago! Saline external > shell/silicone inside. My family doctor asked me - finally - after > months and months of complaints if I wanted to have them removed. He > has referred me to a plastic surgeon where I live (whom I saw 3 yrs. > ago when my right breast was very sore) At that time, he dismissed me > saying, "well, there's bound to be a little discomfort". I have an > appointment to see him, as the woman doctor he was going to send me to > is on maternity leave. I am so nervous. I can barely walk and am > sick with a cold or flu all the time. Please respond with your > experience. I am so grateful to find this

site. Peace to All.>

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I understand them to still be with a silicone shell, right?Lynda <coss@...> wrote: I think she is describing double lumen implants, saline outer, silicone inside pocket.LyndaAt 09:30 AM 3/11/2006, you wrote:>Welcome,>>Sis is right, there are no saline external shells. Saline is a form >of sterilized water. It is usually given with intravenous >fluids. If the shell was saline it would of been absorbed within >hours of implantation. I am so sorry you are not feeling well. I >wish we all didn't have to be here, but I am glad I have the support >of these wonderful ladies. Without them I would still be searching >for a reason for my sickness, now I am recovering.>>Hugs,>>>>auntsisnj

<auntsisnj@...> wrote:>Hi - I'm sorry that you've been ill. I had implants for only 6>months because they made me sick within weeks of getting them. At>least I was lucky enough to get sick right away so that I knew>without a doubt it was the implants - but when you've had them for a>long time and feel fine for many years, often you don't relate>sudden illness with the implants. The shell breaks down over time>and allows what's inside to pass through the body, and actually the>shell itself breaking down can make us sick as well. One thing I>don't understand, though, you said saline external shell and>silicone inside. From what I understand, the shell is made of>silicone, too, not saline.>>Be careful with that surgeon since he dismissed you a few years>ago. Please let us know where you live, perhaps we can guide you to>someone who

might be better. You want someone skilled in removing>silicone implants to perform the surgery, and they should also>remove the capsule that forms around the implant.>>Sis>>> >> > Hello, everyone. I am a 58 yrs. old grandma of 4 and have been>very> > ill for a few years. I found out awhile ago it's because of the> > breast implants I had put in 20 yrs. ago! Saline external> > shell/silicone inside. My family doctor asked me - finally ->after> > months and months of complaints if I wanted to have them removed.>He> > has referred me to a plastic surgeon where I live (whom I saw 3>yrs.> > ago when my right breast was very sore) At that time, he dismissed>me> > saying, "well, there's bound to be a little

discomfort". I have>an> > appointment to see him, as the woman doctor he was going to send>me to> > is on maternity leave. I am so nervous. I can barely walk and am> > sick with a cold or flu all the time. Please respond with your> > experience. I am so grateful to find this site. Peace to All.> >>>>>>>>>>Bring photos to life! ><http://pa./*http://us.rd./evt=39174/*http://photomail.mail.>New >PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.>>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given >by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or >licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.>>"Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians >mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own >decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a >better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, >Chemistry; 1963, Peace)>>See our photos website! Enter "implants" for access at this link:><http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.shutterfly.com/action/>>