Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Hi. I know this is off-topic, but since all of you are so wise about health related issues, I thought I'd ask about raynauds. Do any of you know of any treatments that work to ease the symptoms of raynauds (cold fingers, poor circulation in the fingertips)? Has anyone had any success treating this? Thanks so much! Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Welcome Laurie, One thing that could be a factor in Raynauds is a depletion of Magnesium . . . www.magnesiumresearchlab.com/ I have a condition with my feet that is the flip side of Raynauds (Erythromelalgia). The doctor behind this website saved me. Microscopic shunts in the blood vessels open and close at inappropriate times sending blood to the surface, or to the body core causing one's extremities to feel cold or hot. . . Sometimes my feet were so cold, I thought they were hot. I attribute my problem to having taken Neurontin. Neurontin depletes Magnesium (which is already in short supply in our foods).. . Unfortunately, for those who do get a diagnosis, the drug of choice (by physicians) is Neurontin! If you knew how Neurontin was promoted, you'd understand! . . . The Feds fined the manufacturer's $430,000,000 for their marketing practices! Dr. Mannsman has information you can take to your doctor that will explain it in medical terms. Hugs and prayers, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Hi Laurie I don't have a solution, but thought I would let you know that I have it too - for as long as I can remember. Cherie > > Hi. I know this is off-topic, but since all of you are so wise about > health related issues, I thought I'd ask about raynauds. Do any of > you know of any treatments that work to ease the symptoms of > raynauds (cold fingers, poor circulation in the fingertips)? Has > anyone had any success treating this? > > Thanks so much! > Laurie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Rogene, I was on Neurotin for a while last year when they didn't know what I was dealing with. The doctor just said 'here take this and see if it helps". I immediatley developed swallowing difficulties. I couldn't even swallow the tiny pill. I gagged on everyting. I stopped taking it and the problem clear up within a couple of days. That was when I decided to stop all chemistry experiments the doctors wanted to do on me. I told them if they didn't know what was broke...don't try fixing it with drugs. LRogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: Welcome Laurie,One thing that could be a factor in Raynauds is adepletion of Magnesium . . .www.magnesiumresearchlab.com/I have a condition with my feet that is the flip sideof Raynauds (Erythromelalgia). The doctor behind thiswebsite saved me. Microscopic shunts in the blood vessels open and closeat inappropriate times sending blood to the surface,or to the body core causing one's extremities to feelcold or hot. . . Sometimes my feet were so cold, Ithought they were hot. I attribute my problem to having taken Neurontin.Neurontin depletes Magnesium (which is already inshort supply in our foods).. . Unfortunately, forthose who do get a diagnosis, the drug of choice (byphysicians) is Neurontin! If you knew how Neurontinwas promoted, you'd understand! . . . The Feds finedthe manufacturer's $430,000,000 for their marketingpractices! Dr. Mannsman has information you can take to yourdoctor that will explain it in medical terms.Hugs and prayers,Rogene Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Thank you. I'll check out the website and see what we learn. If you have any other ideas, I'm happy to hear them. I've heard that ginkgo biloba may be helpful. Have you heard about that too? Thanks, Laurie On 3/15/06 5:23 AM, " Rogene S " <saxony01@...> wrote: > Welcome Laurie, > > One thing that could be a factor in Raynauds is a > depletion of Magnesium . . . > www.magnesiumresearchlab.com/ > > I have a condition with my feet that is the flip side > of Raynauds (Erythromelalgia). The doctor behind this > website saved me. > > Microscopic shunts in the blood vessels open and close > at inappropriate times sending blood to the surface, > or to the body core causing one's extremities to feel > cold or hot. . . Sometimes my feet were so cold, I > thought they were hot. > > I attribute my problem to having taken Neurontin. > Neurontin depletes Magnesium (which is already in > short supply in our foods).. . Unfortunately, for > those who do get a diagnosis, the drug of choice (by > physicians) is Neurontin! If you knew how Neurontin > was promoted, you'd understand! . . . The Feds fined > the manufacturer's $430,000,000 for their marketing > practices! > > Dr. Mannsman has information you can take to your > doctor that will explain it in medical terms. > > Hugs and prayers, > > Rogene > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care > professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link: > http://.shutterfly.com/action/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Thanks for the support. Maybe we'll find a solution together. Good luck to you. Laurie On 3/15/06 7:41 AM, " Cherie " <cheriesut@...> wrote: > Hi Laurie > I don't have a solution, but thought I would let you know that I have > it too - for as long as I can remember. > Cherie > >> >> Hi. I know this is off-topic, but since all of you are so wise > about >> health related issues, I thought I'd ask about raynauds. Do any of >> you know of any treatments that work to ease the symptoms of >> raynauds (cold fingers, poor circulation in the fingertips)? Has >> anyone had any success treating this? >> >> Thanks so much! >> Laurie >> > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care > professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link: > http://.shutterfly.com/action/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Laurie, I haven't heard anything about Ginkgo Biloba helping Raynauds - but that doesn't meant it won't help. Have you done a websearch for " Ginkgo Biloba Raynauds " ? Hugs, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 , I'm glad you couldn't take Neurontin and quit quickly! .. . . I saw one place where they were enrolling people for a class action suit against the manufacturer's . . .. seems a lot of people have either tried, or committed suicide while on it! Supposedly it didn't have any side effects . . . WRONG! Hugs, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Yes, it has been used to help treat Raynaud's. Here is an article. Kenda Ginkgo Biloba (Ginkgo Biloba Leaf) The ginkgo is the oldest living tree species, geological records indicate this plant has been growing on earth for 150 - 200 million years. Chinese monks are credited with keeping the tree in existence, as a sacred herb. It was first brought to Europe in the 1700's and it is now a commonly prescribed drug in France and Germany. It is one of the most well-researched herbs in the world. In the last 30 years, more that 300 studies have given clinical evidence that ginkgo prevents and benefits many problems throughout the entire body. Ginkgo is gaining recognition as a brain tonic that enhances memory because of its positive effects on the vascular system, especially in the cerebellum. It is also used as a treatment for vertigo, tinnitus (ringing in the ears) and a variety of neurological disorders and circulation problems. Ginkgo may help to counteract the effects of aging, including mental fatigue and lack of energy. Ginkgo works by increasing blood flow to the brain and throughout the body's network of blood vessels that supply blood and oxygen to the organ systems. It increases metabolism efficiency, regulates neurotransmitters, and boosts oxygen levels in the brain which uses 20% of the body's oxygen. Benefits of enhanced circulation in the brain include improved short and long term memory, increased reaction time and improved mental clarity. Ginkgo is often used to treat elderly persons with Alzheimer's and other symptoms of cerebral insufficiency. Cerebral insufficiency is a general term for a collection of symptoms that include difficulties of concentration and memory, absentmindedness, confusion, lack of energy, depressive mood, anxiety, dizziness, tinnitus, and headache. Ginkgo constituents are beneficial for a variety of imbalances and deterioration in the brain and body. Standardized ginkgo extract inhibits platelet activity factor (PAF), which is a common allergen in the body. Physical stress, and poor quality food can overstimulate PAF production; in other words, blood clotting. Excessive PAF can help cause cardiovascular disease, brain damage, hearing disorders and other immune and inflammatory diseases. Ginkgo has been used to relieve tension and anxiety and improve mental alertness, elevate mood and restore energy. Ginkgo has two groups of active substances, flavonoids and terpene lactones, including ginkgolides A, B, and C, bilobalide, quercetin, and kaempferol. The ginkgolides have been shown to control allergic inflammation, anaphylactic shock and asthma. Ginkgo also acts as a powerful antioxidant and contributes to the oxidation of free radicals which are believed to contribute to premature aging and dementia. Antioxidants also protect the eyes, cardiovascular system and central nervous system. Ginkgo may also help control the transformation of cholesterol to plaque associated with the hardening of arteries, and can relax constricted blood vessels. The herb has been used in treatment of other circulation-related disorders such as diabetic peripheral vascular disease, Raynaud's syndrome, hemorrhoids and varicose veins. It can also aid in the treatment of insufficient circulation and complications from stroke and skull injuries. Ginkgo's beneficial effects on the circulatory system also can be of benefit in the treatment of eye and ear disorders. Studies have confirmed that ginkgo increases blood flow to the retina, and can slow retinal deterioration resulting in an increase of visual acuity. In clinical tests ginkgo has improved hearing loss in the elderly. It also improves circulation in the extremities relieving cold hands and feet, swelling in the limbs and chronic arterial blockage. Among other things, ginkgo is being investigated as a potential treatment to prevent the rejection of transplanted organs, as a treatment for asthma and for toxic shock syndrome. Parts Used: Dried leaf. Common Use: Ginkgo has been shown to be nutritional support for mental alertness, enhanced vitality level, circulatory health and blood vessel health. Its high antioxidant activity is valuable for fighting age related conditions. All over the world, people have claimed Ginkgo to be beneficial in the fight against the gradual erosion of energy associated with aging. Care: The ginkgo tree thrives in full sun and average soil. It is very resistant to infection and pollution and can grow up to 120 feet. The small yellow fruit that falls from the female tree has a strong rancid odor. > Laurie, > > I haven't heard anything about Ginkgo Biloba helping > Raynauds - but that doesn't meant it won't help. > > Have you done a websearch for " Ginkgo Biloba > Raynauds " ? > > Hugs, > > Rogene > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care > professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link: > http://.shutterfly.com/action/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Thanks Kenda . . . This is great information! . . . I'll have to get some Ginkgo Biloba! Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 You're very welcome. I was surprised at how many things Ginkgo is used for! Kenda > Thanks Kenda . . . This is great information! . . . > > I'll have to get some Ginkgo Biloba! > > Rogene > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care > professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link: > http://.shutterfly.com/action/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Rogene, Apparently it is supposed to have a modest benefit--not a total cure, but a reduction in episodes. Laurie On Mar 15, 2006, at 6:15 PM, Rogene S wrote: > Laurie, > > I haven't heard anything about Ginkgo Biloba helping > Raynauds - but that doesn't meant it won't help. > > Have you done a websearch for " Ginkgo Biloba > Raynauds " ? > > Hugs, > > Rogene > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given > by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or > licensed health care professional before commencing any medical > treatment. > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a > better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, > Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link: > http://.shutterfly.com/action/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 - I would like to add that bilberry is very good for microcirculation also. With my last episode of raynauds I was taking both ginkgo and bilberry but they didn't seem to help. It eventually just went away again. I hadn't had raynauds in two years and it suddenly came back. I had forgotten just how much I hated it. But these supplements are good for you anyway and are certainly worth taking to see if they will help someone elses raynauds. What helps one person, may work differently for another. Hugs, Kathy -- In , Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote: > > You're very welcome. > > I was surprised at how many things Ginkgo is used for! > > Kenda > > > > Thanks Kenda . . . This is great information! . . . > > > > I'll have to get some Ginkgo Biloba! > > > > Rogene > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed > > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care > > professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link: > > http://.shutterfly.com/action/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Thanks Kathy, Are there any harmful side effects to taking ginkgo? That's disappointing that it didn't help your raynaud's. Laurie On 3/16/06 12:08 AM, " mikat828 " <mikat828@...> wrote: > - > > > > I would like to add that bilberry is very good for microcirculation > also. With my last episode of raynauds I was taking both ginkgo and > bilberry but they didn't seem to help. It eventually just went away > again. I hadn't had raynauds in two years and it suddenly came > back. I had forgotten just how much I hated it. But these > supplements are good for you anyway and are certainly worth taking > to see if they will help someone elses raynauds. What helps one > person, may work differently for another. > Hugs, Kathy > > > > > > -- In , Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote: >> >> You're very welcome. >> >> I was surprised at how many things Ginkgo is used for! >> >> Kenda >> >> >>> Thanks Kenda . . . This is great information! . . . >>> >>> I'll have to get some Ginkgo Biloba! >>> >>> Rogene >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice > given by licensed >>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed > health care >>> professional before commencing any medical treatment. >>> >>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians > mislead you. >>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about > how to live a >>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, > two-time >>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) >>> >>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link: >>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/ >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 All herbs can have side effects, just like drugs. You need to read up on an herb before taking it to be sure it doesn't interact negatively with any prescription drugs or supplements you may already be taking and to be aware of the particular side affects common to that herb. Kenda > Thanks Kathy, > Are there any harmful side effects to taking ginkgo? That's disappointing > that it didn't help your raynaud's. > Laurie > > > On 3/16/06 12:08 AM, " mikat828 " <mikat828@...> wrote: > >> - >> >> >> >> I would like to add that bilberry is very good for microcirculation >> also. With my last episode of raynauds I was taking both ginkgo and >> bilberry but they didn't seem to help. It eventually just went away >> again. I hadn't had raynauds in two years and it suddenly came >> back. I had forgotten just how much I hated it. But these >> supplements are good for you anyway and are certainly worth taking >> to see if they will help someone elses raynauds. What helps one >> person, may work differently for another. >> Hugs, Kathy >> >> >> >> >> >> -- In , Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote: >>> >>> You're very welcome. >>> >>> I was surprised at how many things Ginkgo is used for! >>> >>> Kenda >>> >>> >>>> Thanks Kenda . . . This is great information! . . . >>>> >>>> I'll have to get some Ginkgo Biloba! >>>> >>>> Rogene >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice >> given by licensed >>>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed >> health care >>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment. >>>> >>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians >> mislead you. >>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about >> how to live a >>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, >> two-time >>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) >>>> >>>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link: >>>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/ >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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