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Jill,

Have you rad any of the info. on in the files on why it's important

to have the capsule removed. If not check this out this will tell you

why it's important to have the capsule removed. I'm not sure what a

debridgement is, but I would look this up to make sure it means that

all the capsule is removed. If any capsule is left it can cause mayn

health issues later on. Read up on this it may help you understand

why total capule removal is extreamly important. Most impanting PS

are not skilled enough to do a capsule removal. I went to my

implanting PS and he told me I would be deformed if I did a capsule

removal.

Allyson

>

> My original PS offered to do my explant for FREE. I have had them

for

> less than one year and he said if I wasn't happy then he wasn't

happy.

> I asked about doing a capsulectomy and he said that he wouldn't do

> that. He would simply remove the implant and do an irrigation and

> debridement of the capsule. He said that if I wasn't happy with the

> end result that we could talk later about a lift, etc.

>

> What is so WRONG with having any old plastic surgeon do your

explant?

> I don't get it? My PS assured me that there would be no leftover

> residue or anything.

>

> Tell me the deal. Thanks.

>

> Jill

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Jill,

As long as he leaves the capsule behind, there is

leftover residue! . . .

The implanting surgeon is usually the last doc we

recommend because they seem inclined to coverup the

problems rather than address them.

Hugs,

Rogene

--- jillmarciano <jillmarciano@...> wrote:

> My original PS offered to do my explant for FREE. I

> have had them for

> less than one year and he said if I wasn't happy

> then he wasn't happy.

> I asked about doing a capsulectomy and he said that

> he wouldn't do

> that. He would simply remove the implant and do an

> irrigation and

> debridement of the capsule. He said that if I wasn't

> happy with the

> end result that we could talk later about a lift,

> etc.

>

> What is so WRONG with having any old plastic surgeon

> do your explant?

> I don't get it? My PS assured me that there would

> be no leftover

> residue or anything.

>

> Tell me the deal. Thanks.

>

> Jill

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Jill,

My original implanting surgeon offered to do my explant for free too.

However, he wouldn't do the en bloc removal or make sure all the

capsule was removed. I said Thanks, but no thanks!

Here's why.....

The capsule, (also called scar tissue) surrounding the implants can

contain silicone debris, contaminants, bacterial colonies,

pathogens, or in other words, " stuff " that shouldn't remain in your

body if you are reacting negatively to your implants.

The whole goal of removing the implants is to regain health that has

been severely compromised, at least for the women on this support

group who are sick. In order to offer the BEST POSSIBLE chance of

recovery, it is important that not only the implants be removed, but

ALSO those capsules surrounding the implants. It has entirely to do

with the immune system. The immune system, once it has been

sensitized to the presence of the silicone implant, will continue to

respond if the scar tissue and its contaminants remain in the body.

It can leave sick women sick, and over time, even sicker. Not all

women have severe immune system responses to implants, and so MAY be

able to live with some scar tissue remaining in their body, but most

women don't want to take that chance if they don't have to.

Our stance is supported by many experts. Check our files in the

explant folder, for articles by Dr. Lu Feng and Dr. Pierre

Blais and others who discuss the risks of retained scar capsules.

There is no evidence that the body absorbs or dissolves implant

capsules that are left in the body, as some plastic surgeons would

like us to believe. To the contrary, these articles suggest that

over time they become riskier due to growth and bodily responses to

their presence.

Most plastic surgeons completely deny these suggestions. They also

don't take our illnesses seriously. Their denial leaves many women

in precarious conditions healthwise, and without answers to their

symptoms.

Fortunately, we do have a few special plastic surgeons who are

familiar with our illnesses and understand the need to be very

careful upon explant. They understand that it is better to err on

the side of caution, rather than to risk our long term health, and

will do the explant properly. There is a huge difference in

results.

In other words, there is a right way to do an explant, and a wrong

way. The right way takes more time and more skill and gives greater

chances for health recovery. The wrong way is easy on the surgeon,

but leaves the patient at risk.

These good surgeons are worth the extra effort to see, if it makes a

difference between health recovery or not. I hope that helps

explain things!

Patty

>

> My original PS offered to do my explant for FREE. I have had them

for

> less than one year and he said if I wasn't happy then he wasn't

happy.

> I asked about doing a capsulectomy and he said that he wouldn't do

> that. He would simply remove the implant and do an irrigation and

> debridement of the capsule. He said that if I wasn't happy with

the

> end result that we could talk later about a lift, etc.

>

> What is so WRONG with having any old plastic surgeon do your

explant?

> I don't get it? My PS assured me that there would be no leftover

> residue or anything.

>

> Tell me the deal. Thanks.

>

> Jill

>

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All implants do develop a capsule. The body grows the

capsule in an effort to wall self away from non-self.

It's not a true scar because it has a blood supply.

The blood supply allows contaminents from the implants

to be distributed throughout ones body.

Some capsules are very thin . . . some become

calcified and very thick.

Dr. Feng has criteria for determing if capsules can be

left behind. Anyone who is symtomatic should have the

capsules removed.

Hugs,

Rogene

--- jdebolt@... wrote:

> This may be a silly question, but do all implants

> reside in a capsule? Do all implants cause scar

> tissue to build up?

> Re: Why can't a regular

> PS do an explant?

>

>

> Jill,

>

> As long as he leaves the capsule behind, there is

> leftover residue! . . .

>

> The implanting surgeon is usually the last doc we

> recommend because they seem inclined to coverup

> the

> problems rather than address them.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

> --- jillmarciano <jillmarciano@...> wrote:

>

> > My original PS offered to do my explant for

> FREE. I

> > have had them for

> > less than one year and he said if I wasn't happy

> > then he wasn't happy.

> > I asked about doing a capsulectomy and he said

> that

> > he wouldn't do

> > that. He would simply remove the implant and do

> an

> > irrigation and

> > debridement of the capsule. He said that if I

> wasn't

> > happy with the

> > end result that we could talk later about a

> lift,

> > etc.

> >

> > What is so WRONG with having any old plastic

> surgeon

> > do your explant?

> > I don't get it? My PS assured me that there

> would

> > be no leftover

> > residue or anything.

> >

> > Tell me the deal. Thanks.

> >

> > Jill

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> of advice given by licensed health care

> professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any

> medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts

> are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for

> access at this link:

> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>

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> > > My original PS offered to do my explant for

> > FREE. I

> > > have had them for

> > > less than one year and he said if I wasn't happy

> > > then he wasn't happy.

> > > I asked about doing a capsulectomy and he said

> > that

> > > he wouldn't do

> > > that. He would simply remove the implant and do

> > an

> > > irrigation and

> > > debridement of the capsule. He said that if I

> > wasn't

> > > happy with the

> > > end result that we could talk later about a

> > lift,

> > > etc.

> > >

> > > What is so WRONG with having any old plastic

> > surgeon

> > > do your explant?

> > > I don't get it? My PS assured me that there

> > would

> > > be no leftover

> > > residue or anything.

> > >

> > > Tell me the deal. Thanks.

> > >

> > > Jill

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> > of advice given by licensed health care

> > professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > health care professional before commencing any

> > medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> > politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts

> > are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> > Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for

> > access at this link:

> > http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> >

> >

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Dr. Kolb in Atlanta is on our list. We have one in FL, Dr.

Rotatori in Winter Park.

Lynda

At 06:14 PM 3/17/2006, you wrote:

>

> > >

> > > > My original PS offered to do my explant for

> > > FREE. I

> > > > have had them for

> > > > less than one year and he said if I wasn't happy

> > > > then he wasn't happy.

> > > > I asked about doing a capsulectomy and he said

> > > that

> > > > he wouldn't do

> > > > that. He would simply remove the implant and do

> > > an

> > > > irrigation and

> > > > debridement of the capsule. He said that if I

> > > wasn't

> > > > happy with the

> > > > end result that we could talk later about a

> > > lift,

> > > > etc.

> > > >

> > > > What is so WRONG with having any old plastic

> > > surgeon

> > > > do your explant?

> > > > I don't get it? My PS assured me that there

> > > would

> > > > be no leftover

> > > > residue or anything.

> > > >

> > > > Tell me the deal. Thanks.

> > > >

> > > > Jill

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> > > of advice given by licensed health care

> > > professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > > health care professional before commencing any

> > > medical treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> > > politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts

> > > are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> > > Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for

> > > access at this link:

> > >

>

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> > >

> > >

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Yes, all implants have a scar capsule, as that is how the body walls

off the implant from other tissue. It is a reaction to the foreign

object. And all implants form a capsule.

Lynda

At 06:58 PM 3/17/2006, you wrote:

>This may be a silly question, but do all implants reside in a

>capsule? Do all implants cause scar tissue to build up?

> Re: Why can't a regular PS do an explant?

>

>Jill,

>

>As long as he leaves the capsule behind, there is

>leftover residue! . . .

>

>The implanting surgeon is usually the last doc we

>recommend because they seem inclined to coverup the

>problems rather than address them.

>

>Hugs,

>

>Rogene

>

>

>

>--- jillmarciano <<mailto:jillmarciano@...>jillmarciano@...> wrote:

>

> > My original PS offered to do my explant for FREE. I

> > have had them for

> > less than one year and he said if I wasn't happy

> > then he wasn't happy.

> > I asked about doing a capsulectomy and he said that

> > he wouldn't do

> > that. He would simply remove the implant and do an

> > irrigation and

> > debridement of the capsule. He said that if I wasn't

> > happy with the

> > end result that we could talk later about a lift,

> > etc.

> >

> > What is so WRONG with having any old plastic surgeon

> > do your explant?

> > I don't get it? My PS assured me that there would

> > be no leftover

> > residue or anything.

> >

> > Tell me the deal. Thanks.

> >

> > Jill

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

>by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

>licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

>decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

>better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

>Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

><http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.shutterfly.co\

m/action/

>

>

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This may be a silly question, but do all implants reside in a capsule? Do all implants cause scar tissue to build up?

Re: Why can't a regular PS do an explant?

Jill,As long as he leaves the capsule behind, there isleftover residue! . . . The implanting surgeon is usually the last doc werecommend because they seem inclined to coverup theproblems rather than address them.Hugs,Rogene--- jillmarciano <jillmarciano@...> wrote:> My original PS offered to do my explant for FREE. I> have had them for > less than one year and he said if I wasn't happy> then he wasn't happy. > I asked about doing a capsulectomy and he said that> he wouldn't do > that. He would simply remove the implant and do an> irrigation and > debridement of the capsule. He said that if I wasn't> happy with the > end result that we could talk later about a lift,> etc. > > What is so WRONG with having any old plastic surgeon> do your explant? > I don't get it? My PS assured me that there would> be no leftover > residue or anything. > > Tell me the deal. Thanks. > > Jill > > > > >

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Jill,

How long a ride is it to Atlanta? That's where Dr. Kolb is, and she

is one of the favorites here. I'm sorry you've gotten sick - I do

remember seeing posts connecting brain lesions to implants. You

reacted quickly, just as I did. I had my implants done in May of

2005 and explanted in November of 2005. You probably had yours done

around the same time as me. What symptoms were you having that lead

to someone checking for brain and spine lesions?

Sis

> > >

> > > > My original PS offered to do my explant for

> > > FREE. I

> > > > have had them for

> > > > less than one year and he said if I wasn't happy

> > > > then he wasn't happy.

> > > > I asked about doing a capsulectomy and he said

> > > that

> > > > he wouldn't do

> > > > that. He would simply remove the implant and do

> > > an

> > > > irrigation and

> > > > debridement of the capsule. He said that if I

> > > wasn't

> > > > happy with the

> > > > end result that we could talk later about a

> > > lift,

> > > > etc.

> > > >

> > > > What is so WRONG with having any old plastic

> > > surgeon

> > > > do your explant?

> > > > I don't get it? My PS assured me that there

> > > would

> > > > be no leftover

> > > > residue or anything.

> > > >

> > > > Tell me the deal. Thanks.

> > > >

> > > > Jill

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> > > of advice given by licensed health care

> > > professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > > health care professional before commencing any

> > > medical treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> > > politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts

> > > are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> > > Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for

> > > access at this link:

> > > http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> > >

> > >

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Hi Jill

my implanting PS did my explant. At first he didn't want to do a

capsulectomy, thinking that it wasn't necessary and could add risk

to the procedure. I told him very strongly how much I wanted the

capsules removed. After much prayer, when I went to see him for

follow-up before the procedure, he said he woke up in the middle of

the night and said he just knew he had to take the whole capsule,

that it was the " right thing to do " . (God is just so cool). I

think it's great that your PS wants to do the procedure for free,

but you really need him to take the whole capsule. The implant is a

foreign object in your body and your body forms a capsule around it

to protect you from that foreign body. If the capsule is left in,

all those things that it was encapsulating as protection will be

released to absorb into your body. You could end up sicker than you

are now, or at least it may take longer to heal. It really is very

important, as I am sure everyone here will also tell you.

Cherie

>

> My original PS offered to do my explant for FREE. I have had them

for

> less than one year and he said if I wasn't happy then he wasn't

happy.

> I asked about doing a capsulectomy and he said that he wouldn't do

> that. He would simply remove the implant and do an irrigation and

> debridement of the capsule. He said that if I wasn't happy with

the

> end result that we could talk later about a lift, etc.

>

> What is so WRONG with having any old plastic surgeon do your

explant?

> I don't get it? My PS assured me that there would be no leftover

> residue or anything.

>

> Tell me the deal. Thanks.

>

> Jill

>

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Jill,

While no one can say for sure, it's possible that " MS "

will fade away, and the brain lesions will resolve too

.. . . I think it was Patty who was dx'd with brain

lesions . . . She's fine now!

The only thing you can do is to get your implants

properly removed, get on a good health plan and detox.

Even then it will take time . . . but, if you'll like

most the women here, it will be well worth the effort.

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

--- jillmarciano <jillmarciano@...> wrote:

>

> > >

> > > > My original PS offered to do my explant for

> > > FREE. I

> > > > have had them for

> > > > less than one year and he said if I wasn't

> happy

> > > > then he wasn't happy.

> > > > I asked about doing a capsulectomy and he

> said

> > > that

> > > > he wouldn't do

> > > > that. He would simply remove the implant and

> do

> > > an

> > > > irrigation and

> > > > debridement of the capsule. He said that if

> I

> > > wasn't

> > > > happy with the

> > > > end result that we could talk later about a

> > > lift,

> > > > etc.

> > > >

> > > > What is so WRONG with having any old plastic

> > > surgeon

> > > > do your explant?

> > > > I don't get it? My PS assured me that there

> > > would

> > > > be no leftover

> > > > residue or anything.

> > > >

> > > > Tell me the deal. Thanks.

> > > >

> > > > Jill

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the

> place

> > > of advice given by licensed health care

> > > professionals. Consult your physician or

> licensed

> > > health care professional before commencing any

> > > medical treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or

> the

> > > politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts

> > > are, and make your own decisions about how to

> live a

> > > happy life and how to work for a better world. "

> -

> > > Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner

> (1954,

> > > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for

> > > access at this link:

> > > http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> > >

> > >

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I generally advise women to run like hell in the opposite direction

if their PS offers to remove implants for free, as that generally

means they are just going to pop them out and sew you up.

Lynda

At 08:44 PM 3/17/2006, you wrote:

>Hi Jill

>my implanting PS did my explant. At first he didn't want to do a

>capsulectomy, thinking that it wasn't necessary and could add risk

>to the procedure. I told him very strongly how much I wanted the

>capsules removed. After much prayer, when I went to see him for

>follow-up before the procedure, he said he woke up in the middle of

>the night and said he just knew he had to take the whole capsule,

>that it was the " right thing to do " . (God is just so cool). I

>think it's great that your PS wants to do the procedure for free,

>but you really need him to take the whole capsule. The implant is a

>foreign object in your body and your body forms a capsule around it

>to protect you from that foreign body. If the capsule is left in,

>all those things that it was encapsulating as protection will be

>released to absorb into your body. You could end up sicker than you

>are now, or at least it may take longer to heal. It really is very

>important, as I am sure everyone here will also tell you.

>Cherie

>

>

> >

> > My original PS offered to do my explant for FREE. I have had them

>for

> > less than one year and he said if I wasn't happy then he wasn't

>happy.

> > I asked about doing a capsulectomy and he said that he wouldn't do

> > that. He would simply remove the implant and do an irrigation and

> > debridement of the capsule. He said that if I wasn't happy with

>the

> > end result that we could talk later about a lift, etc.

> >

> > What is so WRONG with having any old plastic surgeon do your

>explant?

> > I don't get it? My PS assured me that there would be no leftover

> > residue or anything.

> >

> > Tell me the deal. Thanks.

> >

> > Jill

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

>by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

>licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

>decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

>better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

>Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

><http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.shutterfly.co\

m/action/

>

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Cherie,

Did you ever get a copy of your operative report from explant?

If you didn't, I would highly recommend that you do so. In fact, I

recommend that everyone ask for copies of all medical records from

every appointment and create a 3 ring binder to keep all of the

records in order. That way you have a chronological record of your

healing progress with specific test results available when you need

them. I've often referred to mine.

The operative report, if you haven't gotten one, is important to

look over. You should look for evidence of the capsule removal.

This legal document will describe exactly what procedures were

performed in the course of the surgery.

Some women have found that even though their plastic surgeon

initially told them that they would perform a total capsulectomy,

upon reviewing the operative report have found that is not the case.

Several women have had to go in for second surgeries to remove those

capsule portions left inside their bodies without their knowledge.

I'm not dissing your plastic surgeon....hopefully he is telling the

truth and he did exactly what he said he was going to do. I'm just

saying that it is not unheard of for plastic surgeons to say one

thing and then do another! You can know for sure by obtaining a

copy of that report.

Patty

> >

> > My original PS offered to do my explant for FREE. I have had

them

> for

> > less than one year and he said if I wasn't happy then he wasn't

> happy.

> > I asked about doing a capsulectomy and he said that he wouldn't

do

> > that. He would simply remove the implant and do an irrigation

and

> > debridement of the capsule. He said that if I wasn't happy with

> the

> > end result that we could talk later about a lift, etc.

> >

> > What is so WRONG with having any old plastic surgeon do your

> explant?

> > I don't get it? My PS assured me that there would be no

leftover

> > residue or anything.

> >

> > Tell me the deal. Thanks.

> >

> > Jill

> >

>

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Hi Patty

I understand your concern. I did get the op report and path report

and the capsules were removed entirely and analyzed by the lab. He

is actually a very upright guy, who did not dispute that the

implants could be making me sick. He kept the price very low for

me, and the whole experience with his office was very good.

Cherie

> > >

> > > My original PS offered to do my explant for FREE. I have had

> them

> > for

> > > less than one year and he said if I wasn't happy then he

wasn't

> > happy.

> > > I asked about doing a capsulectomy and he said that he

wouldn't

> do

> > > that. He would simply remove the implant and do an irrigation

> and

> > > debridement of the capsule. He said that if I wasn't happy

with

> > the

> > > end result that we could talk later about a lift, etc.

> > >

> > > What is so WRONG with having any old plastic surgeon do your

> > explant?

> > > I don't get it? My PS assured me that there would be no

> leftover

> > > residue or anything.

> > >

> > > Tell me the deal. Thanks.

> > >

> > > Jill

> > >

> >

>

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Cherie,

I am really glad to hear that!

Sorry if my message gets posted twice. It seems that I have

experienced some computer problems. I couldn't tell if my message

went through or not, so I sent another one from my address.

Do you think we should add this guy to our list of surgeons? Do you

think he qualifies for understanding the need for a proper explant,

or do you think this was just one of those God things? : ) (I think

mine was too!)

Patty

> > > >

> > > > My original PS offered to do my explant for FREE. I have

had

> > them

> > > for

> > > > less than one year and he said if I wasn't happy then he

> wasn't

> > > happy.

> > > > I asked about doing a capsulectomy and he said that he

> wouldn't

> > do

> > > > that. He would simply remove the implant and do an

irrigation

> > and

> > > > debridement of the capsule. He said that if I wasn't happy

> with

> > > the

> > > > end result that we could talk later about a lift, etc.

> > > >

> > > > What is so WRONG with having any old plastic surgeon do your

> > > explant?

> > > > I don't get it? My PS assured me that there would be no

> > leftover

> > > > residue or anything.

> > > >

> > > > Tell me the deal. Thanks.

> > > >

> > > > Jill

> > > >

> > >

> >

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ALSO, a capsulectomy is removal of the capsule

but a capsulotomy is NOT. That is merely cutting into the capsule.

> > >

> > > My original PS offered to do my explant for FREE. I have had

> them

> > for

> > > less than one year and he said if I wasn't happy then he wasn't

> > happy.

> > > I asked about doing a capsulectomy and he said that he wouldn't

> do

> > > that. He would simply remove the implant and do an irrigation

> and

> > > debridement of the capsule. He said that if I wasn't happy with

> > the

> > > end result that we could talk later about a lift, etc.

> > >

> > > What is so WRONG with having any old plastic surgeon do your

> > explant?

> > > I don't get it? My PS assured me that there would be no

> leftover

> > > residue or anything.

> > >

> > > Tell me the deal. Thanks.

> > >

> > > Jill

> > >

> >

>

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Jill and Rogene,

I agree entirely....MS can certainly go into remission through

diligence with a clean diet, eliminating all allergens. Dairy is a

biggie with MS--avoid it completely! In fact, I would venture to

say that diet can bring about a nearly complete remission of MS

symptoms, along with detoxification therapies. Look into the

various discussions regarding this on the net...I think the McDougal

(sp?) diet is one that has had good success.

While I was never diagnosed with actual brain lesions, I did have an

abnormal MRI that showed atrophy within certain regions of my brain

(a shrinkage) which was considered unusual for my age at that time

(37). I had terrible memory and cognitive problems. All those are

gone now. I would venture to say that my MRI of the brain would be

normal if I made the effort to have another one done.

Patty

>

> Jill,

>

> While no one can say for sure, it's possible that " MS "

> will fade away, and the brain lesions will resolve too

> . . . I think it was Patty who was dx'd with brain

> lesions . . . She's fine now!

>

> The only thing you can do is to get your implants

> properly removed, get on a good health plan and detox.

> Even then it will take time . . . but, if you'll like

> most the women here, it will be well worth the effort.

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

>

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Here's info on the McDougal diet. It is noteworthy that the MS

Foundations and organized groups all seem to poo-poo alternative

approaches to treating MS, but choose rather to rely on drugs. They

all say, " there is no evidence, blah, blah, blah... "

Yeah, right....there is lots of evidence...they are walking around

the planet after including alternative therapies in their treatment

plan. Here's one link:

http://www.lordsday.org/ms.html (see link for whole article).

Bottom line:

The findings are clear. To arrest MS, the diet must be as low in

saturated fat as possible, approximately 6 percent of total

calories. That translates into a low-fat vegetarian diet: one of

starches, vegetables, and fruits—delicious foods containing only 5

to 10 percent total fat. If you skip eggs, dairy products, and

tropical oils such as coconut or palm kernel oil, you eat virtually

no saturated fat.

Besides arresting MS, a low-fat vegetarian diet promotes weight loss

in the obese, relieves constipation, and cuts the food bill by 40

percent. In fact, this type of diet is in line with recommendations

made by other health organizations (including the American Cancer

Society, the American Heart Association, and the Surgeon General's

office) that urge Americans to eat less fat, meat, and dairy

products, while adding more whole grains, vegetables, and fruits.

I treat my MS patients with a whole food vegetarian diet with no

added oil, eggs, or dairy products. The foods are familiar—oatmeal,

cold cereals, waffles, and pancakes for breakfast; soups and

vegetable sandwiches for lunch; and spaghetti, bean burritos, chili,

and stir- " fried " vegetables for dinner.

I've been very gratified by the results of this dietary treatment,

not only because the progress of most of my MS patients' disease has

been halted, but also because their overall health has

unquestionably improved. And everyone knows that MS sufferers need

every bit of help they can get.

>

> Jill and Rogene,

> I agree entirely....MS can certainly go into remission through

> diligence with a clean diet, eliminating all allergens. Dairy is

a

> biggie with MS--avoid it completely! In fact, I would venture to

> say that diet can bring about a nearly complete remission of MS

> symptoms, along with detoxification therapies. Look into the

> various discussions regarding this on the net...I think the

McDougal

> (sp?) diet is one that has had good success.

>

> While I was never diagnosed with actual brain lesions, I did have

an

> abnormal MRI that showed atrophy within certain regions of my

brain

> (a shrinkage) which was considered unusual for my age at that time

> (37). I had terrible memory and cognitive problems. All those are

> gone now. I would venture to say that my MRI of the brain would

be

> normal if I made the effort to have another one done.

> Patty

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