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Hi Janie,

I was diagnosed with ADD back in the 60's and given Ritalin for 6 years to " fix "

my ability to learn. I went from making zero's to making 100's. I felt weird all

the time on the drug and remember being rather violent to my brother and sister.

Also later I couldn't remember what I had learned and really couldn't use it. So

I was passing the tests, thats all.

I now know that if you give anyone amphetamines they will do well at focusing or

paying attention during the fix, like coffee. When I was a kid the psychs were

saying that ritalin was for children and wasn't needed or could even help

adults. They changed the tune when It started making so much money.

It's all BS, I refused the drug and my grades slumped. Then years later I

discovered a way to learn that handles all of my problems, I can learn anything

now. I'm still not as fast as some but who cares. I'm not feeling weird and

wanting to punch people and thats all I want.

The school system we use is not normal or healthy. All of us are literally as

unique as snowflakes. I feel that your and my uniquenesses are what makes life

interesting.

Henry Ford type school systems will always need drugs to at least make the

system look like it is working.

I think the whole labeling of groups of people is crap and another way to make

lots of money on peoples differences and make people feel that they are less

because they are different.

Dawn is right on the button about this.

Love,

Jim

From: Janie <mama_jane_4_2000@...>

Fred Baughman ....

Subject: Re: [sCI] Re: I have posted the transcript of your video

Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 10:51:07 -0700 (PDT)

Although I don't agree that it must always be

medicated I do think that ADHD is real and as a person

with it have known how hard it has been all my life to

fight for my dignity as a person with hidden

disabilities. I have always had ADHD and LD in mild

to moderate forms as did my deceased father and

brother and also my living son. I can tell you people

do not often understand it or make exceptions for it

they merely label people with it as trouble makers or

underachievers. It does not mean some one is stupid

it just means that they act and think and learn some

what differently. When I was told to medicate my son

with Ritalin I gave it to him one or two times and he

told me he didn't like the way it made him feel I

never gave it to him again. As an individual who

likes drugs that make me speed, a little to much, I

would not want to take it because it would get me

addicted really quick. But to say that ADHD does not

exist and to not try to understand and make

concessions for it I don't believe is the right thing

to do either. That is just my thoughts. Janie

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I Love You Janie!

I now know that every loss I've encountered has not been in vain. I always told myself if I could reach just one....

I didn't do it alone but my suffering has paid off! Thank you so much! And please do stay here with us....

Christene

>> Hi, My name is Janie and I am scheduled for surgery for implants on > April 7th. I have paid almost $7,000 for implantation under the > muscle and have everything scheduled and ready to go. I have spent > many weeks researching the "safetyness" of the surgery and have a few > friends who have been recently implanted by the same surgeon within > the last 10 months to 2 years, all very happy with their results and > have, at the present time, no adverse results. > > I am 42 years old, have one child whom I nursed for almost 2 1/2 > years and was always about a size 34a/b. I have never been totally > unhappy with my size, just always would have liked to be bigger, like > a C or maybe a small D. Ironically, I am a big advocate of > alternative medicine and natural health and yet still wanted > implants. As I said, I have spent a lot of time researching and had > spent a lot of time on 's website, reading about all > the "success" stories. I have read many, many of your stories and > posts and I'm quite shocked, surprised, horrified, and saddened by > what I have read and seen and about how much is not disclosed up > front. As I said, I have friends who think this is the greatest > thing they have ever done for themselves and some are still planning > on having and nursing more children. I don't know if they will ever > experience the problems that I have come to know about, but at the > very least, I am sure they will probably endure more surgerys as > their implants age, if nothing else. I have tried to talk with them > about what I have learned, but they think it is me that is > overreacting etc. > > Anyway, the reason I am writing is to first and foremost thank you > all for providing a medium to learn the facts about what so many > women are experiencing first-hand as a result of implantation. I > have, without a doubt, decided to cancel my surgery. I don't know if > I'll get my money back, but in that event, I will consider myself > fortunate to have come out with only that loss. I hope you don't > mind if I continue to stay on this site as I wish you all well in > your recoveries and would like to lend any support that I can.> > Again, for all your stories and truths to what you have been through, > THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! > > Warm Regards, Janie>

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Christene, I cannot even begin to express my gratitude in words. If

it was not for you and everyone on this website with the truth of

their very personal stories, I would have most definitely been

implanted within a few weeks. I can NEVER begin to repay what I have

learned here and I will forever be thankful beyond words.

I am so very sorry for your pain and the suffering you are enduring.

I would like to stay here and lend whatever support or resources that

I may have in order to support you and the women who are so

courageous in their effort to educate others and regain their own

health. For all this, I thank you so much! Much love and gratitude,

Janie

>

>

>

>

>

>

> I Love You Janie!

>

> I now know that every loss I've encountered has not been in vain. I

> always told myself if I could reach just one....

>

> I didn't do it alone but my suffering has paid off! Thank you so

much!

> And please do stay here with us....

>

> Christene

>

>

> --- In , " janie_019 " <janie_019@>

wrote:

> >

> > Hi, My name is Janie and I am scheduled for surgery for implants

on

> > April 7th. I have paid almost $7,000 for implantation under the

> > muscle and have everything scheduled and ready to go. I have spent

> > many weeks researching the " safetyness " of the surgery and have a

few

> > friends who have been recently implanted by the same surgeon

within

> > the last 10 months to 2 years, all very happy with their results

and

> > have, at the present time, no adverse results.

> >

> > I am 42 years old, have one child whom I nursed for almost 2 1/2

> > years and was always about a size 34a/b. I have never been totally

> > unhappy with my size, just always would have liked to be bigger,

like

> > a C or maybe a small D. Ironically, I am a big advocate of

> > alternative medicine and natural health and yet still wanted

> > implants. As I said, I have spent a lot of time researching and

had

> > spent a lot of time on 's website, reading about all

> > the " success " stories. I have read many, many of your stories and

> > posts and I'm quite shocked, surprised, horrified, and saddened by

> > what I have read and seen and about how much is not disclosed up

> > front. As I said, I have friends who think this is the greatest

> > thing they have ever done for themselves and some are still

planning

> > on having and nursing more children. I don't know if they will

ever

> > experience the problems that I have come to know about, but at the

> > very least, I am sure they will probably endure more surgerys as

> > their implants age, if nothing else. I have tried to talk with

them

> > about what I have learned, but they think it is me that is

> > overreacting etc.

> >

> > Anyway, the reason I am writing is to first and foremost thank you

> > all for providing a medium to learn the facts about what so many

> > women are experiencing first-hand as a result of implantation. I

> > have, without a doubt, decided to cancel my surgery. I don't know

if

> > I'll get my money back, but in that event, I will consider myself

> > fortunate to have come out with only that loss. I hope you don't

> > mind if I continue to stay on this site as I wish you all well in

> > your recoveries and would like to lend any support that I can.

> >

> > Again, for all your stories and truths to what you have been

through,

> > THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!

> >

> > Warm Regards, Janie

> >

>

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Janie,

We'd love to have you join us! Kenda came here

researching breast implants and decided against them

after reading this group also! . . .

She's a wonderful asset to the group! I know you will

be too! We need informed women willing to spread the

truth about breast implants!

I'm so glad we reached you!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

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Aawwwww! That's kind of you. I'm sure the other ladies would agree with me when

I say you have no debt here...

The strange thing is, you never really hear about the bad things associated with

implants or a Hollywood socialite with adverse reactions. I have come to terms

with the fact that it happened to ME. I haven't been with this group for very

long but the best part about these ladies is that they are regular everyday

people. They are not representative of Hollywood. We are the woman standing in

line next to you at the grocery store, we are the PTA at your childs school, and

when all is said and done we are YOU! I do ho e that if you get the opportunity

to share all that you've learned here, you will do so and not be shy about it.

Please direct them here! Be proud of yourself too for taking charge of your own

body and doing the necessary research. I'm the kind that would have said

" Oh..it will never happen to ME! " But I'm here to tell you it did happen to me

and all of the rest of these ladies. I so wish that I could take it from all of

them and bear it myself...

Christene

> > >

> > > Hi, My name is Janie and I am scheduled for surgery for implants

> on

> > > April 7th. I have paid almost $7,000 for implantation under the

> > > muscle and have everything scheduled and ready to go. I have spent

> > > many weeks researching the " safetyness " of the surgery and have a

> few

> > > friends who have been recently implanted by the same surgeon

> within

> > > the last 10 months to 2 years, all very happy with their results

> and

> > > have, at the present time, no adverse results.

> > >

> > > I am 42 years old, have one child whom I nursed for almost 2 1/2

> > > years and was always about a size 34a/b. I have never been totally

> > > unhappy with my size, just always would have liked to be bigger,

> like

> > > a C or maybe a small D. Ironically, I am a big advocate of

> > > alternative medicine and natural health and yet still wanted

> > > implants. As I said, I have spent a lot of time researching and

> had

> > > spent a lot of time on 's website, reading about all

> > > the " success " stories. I have read many, many of your stories and

> > > posts and I'm quite shocked, surprised, horrified, and saddened by

> > > what I have read and seen and about how much is not disclosed up

> > > front. As I said, I have friends who think this is the greatest

> > > thing they have ever done for themselves and some are still

> planning

> > > on having and nursing more children. I don't know if they will

> ever

> > > experience the problems that I have come to know about, but at the

> > > very least, I am sure they will probably endure more surgerys as

> > > their implants age, if nothing else. I have tried to talk with

> them

> > > about what I have learned, but they think it is me that is

> > > overreacting etc.

> > >

> > > Anyway, the reason I am writing is to first and foremost thank you

> > > all for providing a medium to learn the facts about what so many

> > > women are experiencing first-hand as a result of implantation. I

> > > have, without a doubt, decided to cancel my surgery. I don't know

> if

> > > I'll get my money back, but in that event, I will consider myself

> > > fortunate to have come out with only that loss. I hope you don't

> > > mind if I continue to stay on this site as I wish you all well in

> > > your recoveries and would like to lend any support that I can.

> > >

> > > Again, for all your stories and truths to what you have been

> through,

> > > THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!

> > >

> > > Warm Regards, Janie

> > >

> >

>

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