Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 " I would not be terribly surprised if any physiological reactions to silicone were caused by unreacted groups left over from the curing reaction, rather than any properties of the bulk silicone. " ---------------------------------- From: Mark Thorson (nospam@...) Subject: Re: Platinum concentration in silicone breast implant material and capsular tissue by ICP-MS Date: 2004-07-11 21:00:05 PST I used to work in silicone materials for electronics, and I know quite a lot about certain aspects of formulation of silicones. The only metals I am aware of being used in silicone are: Platinum, in ppm quantities, for platinum-catalyzed addition cure systems. Tin, in organotin complexes, also used as curing catalysts. Copper, in organocopper complexes, used to suppress a ring-scission thermal degradation mode. This would only be used in silicones intended for high-temperature applications. I really don't think there is any possibility these copper additives are used in medical silicones. In electronics, the purity of materials is very important.One of the attractive features of silicone is that it is easily made in very high purity, with only trace amounts of metals, far below the level that could bother anybody.(Far below the levels that occur in bodily fluids or drinking water.) I'd be much more concerned about chemically reactive groups left over from the curing reaction. Silicones were and are used for implantation in the human body because they are among the least reactive of plastic materials. They are almost totally inert. However, a typical silicone cure system consists of long-chain polymer molecules and short-chain crosslinker molecules. Both the polymers and the crosslinkers have reactive groups hanging off the ends and the sides. The reactive groups on the crosslinkers bond to the reactive groups on the polymers which bridge them together, creating the polymer matrix, and this is the reaction promoted by the catalyst. However, sometimes a crosslinker will bond to a reactive site on a polymer, and it can't find a reactive site on another nearby polymer to react with. So even in fully-cured silicone, there will be unreacted groups left behind, and who knows what happens to them? Interestingly, I once had a conversation with one of the world's top experts on silicone for electronic packaging on this topic, and there is a way to eliminate these unreacted groups. You can treat the cured silicone with ethylene or propylene gas, which easily permeates into the silicone and reacts with the unreacted groups. It then easily diffuses out, leaving no residue. This could be used in electronic applications, to lower the water absorption of the silicone (which affects the all-important dielectric constant) and to improve its stability. As far as I know, nobody does this. It's an extra-cost process which almost nobody knows about, even in the silicone business, so no one even raises the question of whether it should be done. I'd be totally amazed if any medical applications of silicone use this process. And yet, I would not be terribly surprised if any physiological reactions to silicone were caused by unreacted groups left over from the curing reaction, rather than any properties of the bulk silicone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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