Re: Platinum... Another Question...

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We're not talking about silicone gel implants in many cases, we're

talking about the shell of the saline implant, which is made from

silicone. The shell of the implant for saline and silicone implants

are the same, and if women are getting sick from both types of

implants, then the shell has got to be causing major problems.

Platinum is used in the manufacture of the shell, too, from what I

understand, as is benzene. Those with silicone gel implants have

that much more of a struggle, because sometimes the silicone leaks

and circulates throughout the body, and there's really no way to get

rid of it.

Good idea to get bloodwork done now, because then later on it can be

compared if you choose to explant.

Sis

> >Why are the medical researchers in our government ignoring

this????

> >AAAHHH!!!

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> >--- In , Rogene S <saxony01@>

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> > > " The children that we tested that I have seen have all

> > > suffered from hearing and eye problems "

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> > > Last update: August 27, 2004 at 7:06 AM

> > > Platinum may leak from breast implants

> > >

> > >

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<http://www.startribune.com/stories/1556/4950348.html>http://www.star

tribune.com/stories/1556/4950348.html

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> > > Greg Gordon, Star Tribune Washington Bureau

> > > Correspondent

> > > August 27, 2004 IMPLANT0827

> > > WASHINGTON, D.C. -- New research presented Thursday

> > > could lend credence to allegations that silicone gel

> > > breast implants have leaked toxic forms of platinum

> > > into the bodies of women and then reached their

> > > breast-fed children.

> > >

> > > The reactive platinum, unlike other inert platinum in

> > > the body, can cause various forms of neurological

> > > damage and asthma-like allergic reactions, said Ernest

> > > Lykissa, a Houston clinical toxicologist who

> > > co-authored the paper.

> > >

> > > Maharaj, a chemist at American University,

> > > detailed the findings to an American Chemical Society

> > > meeting in Philadelphia.

> > >

> > > Lykissa, who four years ago disclosed some of his

> > > preliminary research to the Star Tribune, said the

> > > paper presented Thursday reported sharply higher

> > > levels of reactive platinum in the blood and urine of

> > > 10 women who had implants than in five control

> > > subjects. While the sample size is small, he said in a

> > > phone interview, the results reflect those in similar

> > > tests he has since performed on hundreds of

> > > women.

> > >

> > > Lykissa said that his research also has been confirmed

> > > by a group of German scientists and that it offers an

> > > explanation for many of the illnesses alleged by

> > > hundreds of thousands of women who received silicone

> > > gel implants.

> > >

> > > Kathleen Quinn, a spokeswoman for the Food and Drug

> > > Administration (FDA), said the agency " is not able to

> > > comment ... at this time " on the paper. The FDA

> > > declined last winter to lift a 12-year-old moratorium

> > > and allow Santa Barbara, Calif.-based INAMED Corp. to

> > > put silicone breast implants back on the U.S. market.

> > > INAMED grew from a former subsidiary of

> > > Maplewood-based 3M, which got out of the breast

> > > implant business in 1984 and has paid more than $1

> > > billion to settle suits over its products.

> > >

> > > Dan Cohen, INAMED's vice president for global

> > > government affairs, said he would not " dismiss [the

> > > new study] until I've had the chance to have our

> > > scientists review it. "

> > >

> > > But, he said, the company has seen " no peer-reviewed,

> > > credible data that would support Mr. Lykissa's claim. "

> > >

> > > Cohen said the FDA's letter rejecting INAMED's

> > > petition to fully market its silicone breast implants

> > > included " no discussion of theplatinum issue. "

> > >

> > > A catalyst

> > >

> > > INAMED and the California-based Mentor Corp. continue

> > > to sell silicone gel implants for use in

> > > reconstructive surgery for breast cancer victims or

> > > for women volunteering for clinical studies.

> > >

> > > Silicone implant makers have used platinum for decades

> > > to produce a catalyst. The catalyst causes silicone

> > > oil to thicken into a gel.

> > >

> > > At issue is whether platinum left over from those

> > > reactions is inert or reactive and whether it leaks

> > > into women's bloodstreams if the implants rupture.

> > > Some government scientists have expressed concern

> > > that not all of the platinum from the manufacturing

> > > process would be neutralized.

> > >

> > > Lykissa said reactive platinum " is notorious for

> > > attacking nerve endings and interfering with the nerve

> > > impulses to the brain. " Women he has examined, he

> > > said, suffer from pain in their fingers and toes,

> > > have ticks in their eyes, memory lapses and

> > > equilibrium or eyesight imbalances.

> > >

> > >

> > > " The children that we tested that I have seen have all

> > > suffered from hearing and eye problems " after being

> > > breast fed. " There were platinums detected in the

> > > breast milk of those mothers,' " Lykissa

> > > said.

> > >

> > > Greg Gordon is at ggordon@

> > >

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[Guest guest]

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I had answered these questions before, but the post never showed

up. I'll try again! See below:

>

> Hey you guys, this always seems to address silicone gel

implants...are there women and babies sick from just the

saline/silicone implants as well?

Yes, definitely so. Both women and babies are sick from exposure to

either the silicone shell, or fungus or bacteria associated with

breast implant contamination.

Are there platinum levels in saline implants? Or don't we know for

sure?

There are two catalysts used to cure silicone liquid into a gel:

platinum or tin. So, yes, in the shell there are small amounts of

these heavy metals present, which are released as the shell breaks

down.

And, are there tests that I can ask my PCP for to find out in our

particular case?

I wish there were....if we had tests to prove that implants cause

illness, we would not struggle to win court cases! They would be

open and closed, done deals. We win. But that is not the case, and

the manufacturers have capitalized on the doubt about the connection

between implants and disease. The best we can do is try to find out

what is making us so ill through various tests for toxicity.

Will just a CBC show anything...does that include a ANA or do I ask

for that? What else should I ask for?

Your doctor can request autoimmune tests based on your symptoms.

These would include rheumatoid factor, sed rate, ANA titres,

complements, enzymes, anti-TPO antibodies, many others depending on

your symptoms.

I am going to begin building my case, beginning with a complete

physical at my PCP office...and will probably be poo-pooed. I guess

I am ready for that. Also have any of you heard of or know of

anyone who has dealt with MRSA?

Don't know what an MRSA is.

Please keep in mind that if you begin building your case, there are

risks associated with collecting diagnosis in your medical file and

leaving a long trail of doctor's records. Once you are diagnosed

with fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, MCS or other mysterious

illnesses, you become rather difficult to insure. This can be a

problem if you ever lose your coverage and have to find coverage

elsewhere. You can be denied. You can also be denied life insurance.

I chose to forego the medical merry-go-round from hell and saved

myself tons of money, frustration, and saved my insurability. I am

not telling you NOT to go to doctors. I'm just saying be careful of

the trail you leave and consider what is best to do in the long run.

Remember, tests and diagnoses will not cure you. Drugs will not cure

you. Drugs will only cover up symptoms, not eliminate the cause of

disease. Tests may help point the way, but curing best happens by

letting your body take over natural healing, and that starts with

getting rid of the cause of disease in the first place: explant.

> thanks,

> ~julie

You're welcome!

Patty