Re: operation

[Guest guest]

There is a school of thought which says that operating on cancer encourages

metastises. In my own case I feel that this did happen as my cancer mets to

my liver became more numerous after my operation to remove the primary

tumour. this same school of thought proposes that instead of an operation,

chemo or radiation, natural methods, such as Gerson or Budwig propose, are

far more effective and much safer. However, each case is different and you

must consider your own situation.

For example, in my situation, the cancer ate through the colon wall so there

was no choice except to remove that portion of the colon.

In my opinion, there is a place for surgery and chemo, you must weigh all

options and consider your own situation carefully. I am doing chemo but I

would never do radiation. The chemo has shrunk my tumours but chemo alone

will not cure me. It will however reduce my tumour burden to a point that

my own immune system, if not too badly compromised by the chemo, will be

able to get rid of the rest. To this end I am employing several natural

approaches along with chemo to help me. Chemo was unavoidable in my case

because I was too close to death for natural methods to work.

Good luck and I hope this helps. May I point you in a direction? Try

joining the FlaxSeedOil2 group on . And here is good site for you to

check out:

http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/

Syd

>From: " SAND " <helpcallsand@...>

>

>Does anyone know if when operated for cancer, if additional medical

>problems arise? >Thanks Sand

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I'm thrilled to know you're getting the wholehearted

attention of your doctor! . . . It sounds like he's

going a bit overboard - but better that than the

other! . . . I suspect that he's as interested in

learning as much about what's going on with you as you

are because he know other women are in dire need of

attention. I suspect he's learning from what you're

bringing to him. That's good!

The implant problem is a world wide epidemic that has

been swept under the rug far too long! . . . With the

platinum study making it to the scientific level,

things are going to start changing. Doctors are going

to have to be prepared for the onslaught of sick women

coming their way. They aren't going to be able to say

" It's not your implants - see a psychiatrist any

longer!

As for me, I'm visiting family in Texas this week. My

computer access will be spotty and time will be

limited. I'm feeling OK right now . . . I don't like

this estrogen blocking drug. But, if I can tolerate

it, the chances for another estrogen receptive cancer

drop from 20% to less than 2% . . . Darn good odds.

But I refuse to sacrifice quality of life for even

those odds. Right now, I'm not convinced it's worth

it. However, I am learning a little more all the time

about the supplements I need to stay on top. I plan to

pick up some Glutamine today. My major complaint is

how weak my arms feel. Supplementing with Magnesium

plays a huge role. I think NCD is helping too. I just

wish NCD had a longer track record because I'd love to

just rely on it!

I'm off to visit family and friends today.

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

I am really happy that your pre-op appt when so well! Your surgeon

sounds like a really decent human being. I will be praying that

your insurance will cover your surgery including the lift! I am

glad to hear that you are feeling better again, and that the ncd and

the sea salt are working for you. It would be great if the show's

producers actually wanted to use your story...actually that would be

awesome. But I would be very surprised if they did. It certainly

never hurts to try. You never know when something like that will

pay off. Thanks for sharing all of your good news and be sure to

have a blessed Easter!

Love, Kathy

>

> Hi Rogene,

>

> I went to see my surgeon yesterday for my pre-op. I have to say

that I am

> now somewhat encouraged by him.

> I was able to have an interpreter which was a big help.

> I also took my Sister with me to remind me of things to ask which

I knew I

> would forget!!

>

> I have much work to do before the operation which is still

scheduled for

> 24th April. Monday, I have to have blood test, Xray and ECG for

the

> operation. Tuesday, I have an appointment with the Skin

specialist and

> Wednesday, the Bone specialist. These last two appointments the

surgeon

> said is to get a report linking my conditions to silicone for the

insurance

> company.

> Meanwhile, the surgeon has written a letter for me for the

insurance company

> I haven't yet translated it but can work out what most of it

says and I

> think its quite good. He has even said that since the implants I

have had

> health problems and listed many and is recommending explant.

> One thing I think he has done in my favour, he hasn't stated that

he IS

> doing a capsular removal, just the there may be a possibility that

he has to

> even though he has assured me that he is.

> Also, he is going to do an uplift at the same time and he hasn't

put this on

> the letter either!! I think he is trying to help me as I told him

I couldn

> t afford an uplift and I didn't think the insurance company would

pay. He

> just kind of smiled and winked at me.

> He also agreed to give me the implants once explanted.

> I asked him if I would have drains and he said yes.

> Oh, one more thing, he said the operation would be at least 3

hours and he

> is keeping me in hospital overnight to keep an eye on me. (Perhaps

he wants

> to marry me too hehe) just trying to stay light hearted about

this, but

> really I am scared. Mind you, he did take lots of photos!!!

>

> Am going to fax this letter to the insurance company on Monday as

all is

> closed until then for Easter. They may even agree to the

operation without

> having to see the specialists, who knows.

>

> Rogene. The last time we wrote you thought you had sorted things

with the

> Magnesium and were feeling much better, hope that is still the

case.

> By the way, I received my NCD and have felt much better again.

> I also got some sea salt body scrub from and its fantastic.

> The first three time I sued it, my arms were on fire and I felt

like I was

> receiving electric shocks through them, I had to grit my teeth to

say out of

> the water. Its much easier now but funny it was only my arms

again, that

> tells me something!! Anyhow, its made such a difference to my

skin, it is

> so much softer, doesnt feel like elephants skin anymorethough I

have got

> more eruptions than before but I think its just the silicone

escaping. I

> told the surgeon that and I thought he would really think I had

gone mad!!

> but he just sort of nodded.

>

> Can I also just add, A BIG THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF HEART to

everyone on

> this site. Without this site, I would not be feeling like I am

now. Its

> not just how I feel but what I have learnt. I cannot put it into

words and

> thank you is not enough. ALL OF YOU.

>

>

> Oh, one more thing. We have a soap in the UK called Eastenders.

They have

> done a story line where a girl has had a boob job. My sister is

an avid

> watcher. She is going to write to the BBC Director and tell him

about

> implants and the risks and ask him if he would like to incorporate

my story

> into his story line. It would be a great way to get the message

over to the

> public, a great storyline for the BBC. We are going to tell him

about this

> support group too. He might want to do his own research. Worth a

try and

> if we pull it off, WELL, it will open up a hornets nest I

suppose. Still,

> the BBC loves publicity and a challenge. HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A HAPPY

EASTER,

>

> Love

> amanda

>

[Guest guest]

Rogene

I hope you have a great time in texas. I wish I was in Dallas

visiting my son right now. Even though I just saw him in march, I

always miss him. Have a great Easter. Keep plugging away at

getting your protocol right for feeling good again. If anybody

can , you can. You are an inspiration to all of us. Take good care

of yourself, but enjoy yourself! Happy Easter!

Love, Kathy

>

> ,

>

> I'm thrilled to know you're getting the wholehearted

> attention of your doctor! . . . It sounds like he's

> going a bit overboard - but better that than the

> other! . . . I suspect that he's as interested in

> learning as much about what's going on with you as you

> are because he know other women are in dire need of

> attention. I suspect he's learning from what you're

> bringing to him. That's good!

>

> The implant problem is a world wide epidemic that has

> been swept under the rug far too long! . . . With the

> platinum study making it to the scientific level,

> things are going to start changing. Doctors are going

> to have to be prepared for the onslaught of sick women

> coming their way. They aren't going to be able to say

> " It's not your implants - see a psychiatrist any

> longer!

>

> As for me, I'm visiting family in Texas this week. My

> computer access will be spotty and time will be

> limited. I'm feeling OK right now . . . I don't like

> this estrogen blocking drug. But, if I can tolerate

> it, the chances for another estrogen receptive cancer

> drop from 20% to less than 2% . . . Darn good odds.

> But I refuse to sacrifice quality of life for even

> those odds. Right now, I'm not convinced it's worth

> it. However, I am learning a little more all the time

> about the supplements I need to stay on top. I plan to

> pick up some Glutamine today. My major complaint is

> how weak my arms feel. Supplementing with Magnesium

> plays a huge role. I think NCD is helping too. I just

> wish NCD had a longer track record because I'd love to

> just rely on it!

>

> I'm off to visit family and friends today.

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

The doctor sounds like a gem, I'm glad you've found him. I'm sure

you'll be posting before your surgery, but I just wanted to wish you

the best of luck with that. I'm glad the products you've been

trying have helped you.

Sis

> >

> > Hi Rogene,

> >

> > I went to see my surgeon yesterday for my pre-op. I have to say

> that I am

> > now somewhat encouraged by him.

> > I was able to have an interpreter which was a big help.

> > I also took my Sister with me to remind me of things to ask

which

> I knew I

> > would forget!!

> >

> > I have much work to do before the operation which is still

> scheduled for

> > 24th April. Monday, I have to have blood test, Xray and ECG for

> the

> > operation. Tuesday, I have an appointment with the Skin

> specialist and

> > Wednesday, the Bone specialist. These last two appointments the

> surgeon

> > said is to get a report linking my conditions to silicone for

the

> insurance

> > company.

> > Meanwhile, the surgeon has written a letter for me for the

> insurance company

> > I haven't yet translated it but can work out what most of it

> says and I

> > think its quite good. He has even said that since the implants

I

> have had

> > health problems and listed many and is recommending explant.

> > One thing I think he has done in my favour, he hasn't stated

that

> he IS

> > doing a capsular removal, just the there may be a possibility

that

> he has to

> > even though he has assured me that he is.

> > Also, he is going to do an uplift at the same time and he hasn't

> put this on

> > the letter either!! I think he is trying to help me as I told

him

> I couldn

> > t afford an uplift and I didn't think the insurance company

would

> pay. He

> > just kind of smiled and winked at me.

> > He also agreed to give me the implants once explanted.

> > I asked him if I would have drains and he said yes.

> > Oh, one more thing, he said the operation would be at least 3

> hours and he

> > is keeping me in hospital overnight to keep an eye on me.

(Perhaps

> he wants

> > to marry me too hehe) just trying to stay light hearted about

> this, but

> > really I am scared. Mind you, he did take lots of photos!!!

> >

> > Am going to fax this letter to the insurance company on Monday

as

> all is

> > closed until then for Easter. They may even agree to the

> operation without

> > having to see the specialists, who knows.

> >

> > Rogene. The last time we wrote you thought you had sorted

things

> with the

> > Magnesium and were feeling much better, hope that is still the

> case.

> > By the way, I received my NCD and have felt much better again.

> > I also got some sea salt body scrub from and its fantastic.

> > The first three time I sued it, my arms were on fire and I felt

> like I was

> > receiving electric shocks through them, I had to grit my teeth

to

> say out of

> > the water. Its much easier now but funny it was only my arms

> again, that

> > tells me something!! Anyhow, its made such a difference to my

> skin, it is

> > so much softer, doesnt feel like elephants skin anymorethough I

> have got

> > more eruptions than before but I think its just the silicone

> escaping. I

> > told the surgeon that and I thought he would really think I had

> gone mad!!

> > but he just sort of nodded.

> >

> > Can I also just add, A BIG THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF HEART to

> everyone on

> > this site. Without this site, I would not be feeling like I am

> now. Its

> > not just how I feel but what I have learnt. I cannot put it

into

> words and

> > thank you is not enough. ALL OF YOU.

> >

> >

> > Oh, one more thing. We have a soap in the UK called

Eastenders.

> They have

> > done a story line where a girl has had a boob job. My sister is

> an avid

> > watcher. She is going to write to the BBC Director and tell him

> about

> > implants and the risks and ask him if he would like to

incorporate

> my story

> > into his story line. It would be a great way to get the message

> over to the

> > public, a great storyline for the BBC. We are going to tell him

> about this

> > support group too. He might want to do his own research. Worth

a

> try and

> > if we pull it off, WELL, it will open up a hornets nest I

> suppose. Still,

> > the BBC loves publicity and a challenge. HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A

HAPPY

> EASTER,

> >

> > Love

> > amanda

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Rogene

Sorry to hear that. But I am sure it is only temporary. I would

love to get together in Dallas. Let me know when you are going

again. I am sure I will be there again sometime this summer or fall.

Hugs, Kathy

>

> Thanks Kathy . . .

>

> I'm enjoying myself . . . but I can definitely tell my

> energy is lower than usual on these trips! . . .

>

> Maybe we can plan to get together when we're both in

> the area!

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Wow Rogene

I am so glad that they seem to be making a difference! I so want to

try them but am afraid of another herx. Don't want to deal with

more of that right now---thanks, but I have a full plate! is

graduating high school that weekend so I know I will be here. But

maybe late summer or fall?

Hugs, Kathy

>

> Hi Kathy . . .

>

> I have two HS graduations to attend in DFW - May 30

> and June 2 . . .

>

> Any chance you'll be around then?

>

> I started taking Glutamine and NAC the day before

> yesterday . . . Seems to be making a difference! I

> drove home today and still feel perky!

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Jim, I wouldn't COUNT on a " day surgery " ! <LOL>

Tammy Klaus

tammy.kl@...

Operation

Xrays:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jvolstad/sets/72157605891117955/

I'm really not looking forward to having a hip replacement. I'm really

too busy at work to take time off. Maybe I can have day surgery. LOL.

Jim

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[Guest guest]

Actually, you could...

I had my THR and I left the hospital to go home about 10 hours after surgery.  I

am hoping to do the same when I have my other hip done in August.

But, I am the minority.

Never say Never!!!

From: Tammy Klaus <tammy.kl@...>

Subject: Re: Operation

Joint Replacement

Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 4:59 PM

Jim, I wouldn't COUNT on a " day surgery " ! <LOL>

Tammy Klaus

tammy.klverizon (DOT) net

[Total_Joint_ Replacement] Operation

Xrays:

http://www.flickr. com/photos/ jvolstad/ sets/72157605891 117955/

I'm really not looking forward to having a hip replacement. I'm really

too busy at work to take time off. Maybe I can have day surgery. LOL.

Jim

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