Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weight

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leaky gut....meaning his gut is in shreds so it can't absorb anything, MUCH of what you have listed are also yeast feeders so it's likly one of the big causes ripping UP the gut, to stop the cycle you would have to stop feeding the yeast so it can die off and get out of the gut and the gut repair itself. things like L-gluamine can help speed up repair, and to help get rid of yeast you can do things like GSE, nystatine, diflucan, biotin, high dose probiotics, caprilic acid, garlic, cranberries, ect.....the rice is a HUGE yeast feeder, apples and bananas as well. the fruit leathers would be HUGE yeast feeders and depending on the tueky breast slices (are we talking deli meats??) they may have added sugar and may not be gfcf which cn also have issues in and of itself. in place of the rice pasta you could try bean pastas, in place of the applesauce do pear sause, for other fruits stick to berries, blackberries, raspberries, blueberries and cranberries (NON SWEETENED) think meats and veggies as much as possible

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Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weight

My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken,carrots, and celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly coated with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed Vegetables, organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be doing this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?

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may also mean that he can't produce the enzymes he needs to break things down. how are stools comeing out? are they solid, digested, what is the color ect?

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Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weight

This is very common. Possibly, it means too much thyroid hormone, signaling the body to burn too much energy. Also, it could be that his adrenal glands are not making enough (or the right amount of) cortisol.Here is a cool link:<http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp>I hope it helps you find some clues as to what is causing it. I still haven't studied the thyroid, adrenals, and pancreas enough to understand what is going on with them and why the imbalances happen in our kids. I DO know that there is often a history of thyroid problems in families of children with autism (whether it is known or not).I certainly believe that having adrenal cortex extract on hand is a good thing for people who are doing chelation and other forms of detox.>> My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of > chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken,carrots, and > celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly coated > with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed Vegetables, > organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating > every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be doing > this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?>

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My son ate a lot and had poor weight. We had GI issues to work on, reflux and gastritis. He had yeast, he needed enzymes and has truly malabsorption problems. In this board L carnitine has helped with growth, enzymes, and GI medicines.

hope this helps,

Subject: Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weightTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 5:43 AM

leaky gut....meaning his gut is in shreds so it can't absorb anything, MUCH of what you have listed are also yeast feeders so it's likly one of the big causes ripping UP the gut, to stop the cycle you would have to stop feeding the yeast so it can die off and get out of the gut and the gut repair itself. things like L-gluamine can help speed up repair, and to help get rid of yeast you can do things like GSE, nystatine, diflucan, biotin, high dose probiotics, caprilic acid, garlic, cranberries, ect.....the rice is a HUGE yeast feeder, apples and bananas as well. the fruit leathers would be HUGE yeast feeders and depending on the tueky breast slices (are we talking deli meats??) they may have added sugar and may not be gfcf which cn also have issues in and of itself. in place of the rice pasta you could try bean pastas, in place of the applesauce do pear sause, for other fruits stick to berries, blackberries,

raspberries, blueberries and cranberries (NON SWEETENED) think meats and veggies as much as possible

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Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weight

My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken, carrots, and celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly coated with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed Vegetables, organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be doing this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?

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He has always had chronic loose bowel movements. Off and on we have had some solid. They are mostly yellowish brown. He had a +1 for yeast on his comprehensive stool analysis. We do gf/cf and avoid many food allergens. He takes probiotics(FiveLac) and an enzyme from my local health food store. He takes slippery elm to soothe the digestive tract. I feel like the only thing I haven't tried would be thr SCD diet. I am going to order the book today. Maybe that is our missing link. He also takes amphotericin/valtrex.

Subject: Re: Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weightTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 1:57 PM

may also mean that he can't produce the enzymes he needs to break things down. how are stools comeing out? are they solid, digested, what is the color ect?

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Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weight

This is very common. Possibly, it means too much thyroid hormone, signaling the body to burn too much energy. Also, it could be that his adrenal glands are not making enough (or the right amount of) cortisol.Here is a cool link:<http://www.drrind. com/scorecardmat rix.asp>I hope it helps you find some clues as to what is causing it. I still haven't studied the thyroid, adrenals, and pancreas enough to understand what is going on with them and why the imbalances happen in our kids. I DO know that there is often a history of thyroid problems in families of children with autism (whether it is known or not).I certainly believe that having adrenal cortex extract on hand is a good thing for people who are doing chelation and other forms of detox.>> My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of > chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken, carrots, and > celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly coated > with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed Vegetables, > organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating > every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be doing > this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?>

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I do not do L carnitine. I will try that also. I had been researching that! Thanks!

From: Christel King <christel76@together .net>Subject: Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weightTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 5:43 AM

leaky gut....meaning his gut is in shreds so it can't absorb anything, MUCH of what you have listed are also yeast feeders so it's likly one of the big causes ripping UP the gut, to stop the cycle you would have to stop feeding the yeast so it can die off and get out of the gut and the gut repair itself. things like L-gluamine can help speed up repair, and to help get rid of yeast you can do things like GSE, nystatine, diflucan, biotin, high dose probiotics, caprilic acid, garlic, cranberries, ect.....the rice is a HUGE yeast feeder, apples and bananas as well. the fruit leathers would be HUGE yeast feeders and depending on the tueky breast slices (are we talking deli meats??) they may have added sugar and may not be gfcf which cn also have issues in and of itself. in place of the rice pasta you could try bean pastas, in place of the applesauce do pear sause, for other fruits stick to berries, blackberries,

raspberries, blueberries and cranberries (NON SWEETENED) think meats and veggies as much as possible

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Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weight

My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken, carrots, and celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly coated with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed Vegetables, organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be doing this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?

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Where do I find bean pastas? Where can I find a recipe for pear sauce?

Subject: Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weightTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 1:43 PM

leaky gut....meaning his gut is in shreds so it can't absorb anything, MUCH of what you have listed are also yeast feeders so it's likly one of the big causes ripping UP the gut, to stop the cycle you would have to stop feeding the yeast so it can die off and get out of the gut and the gut repair itself. things like L-gluamine can help speed up repair, and to help get rid of yeast you can do things like GSE, nystatine, diflucan, biotin, high dose probiotics, caprilic acid, garlic, cranberries, ect.....the rice is a HUGE yeast feeder, apples and bananas as well. the fruit leathers would be HUGE yeast feeders and depending on the tueky breast slices (are we talking deli meats??) they may have added sugar and may not be gfcf which cn also have issues in and of itself. in place of the rice pasta you could try bean pastas, in place of the applesauce do pear sause, for other fruits stick to berries, blackberries,

raspberries, blueberries and cranberries (NON SWEETENED) think meats and veggies as much as possible

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Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weight

My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken, carrots, and celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly coated with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed Vegetables, organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be doing this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?

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you could try taking out all sweets and cutting back on carbs with out taking them out to see if it helps. if diareah comes and goes that is a sign of another food intollerence or high spirts of yeast feeders. you could food journal and likly find out which and what is doing it, I don't think the 5lac is casein free, I know threelac isn't. you may want to check on that if you are trying to be casien free

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Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weight

This is very common. Possibly, it means too much thyroid hormone, signaling the body to burn too much energy. Also, it could be that his adrenal glands are not making enough (or the right amount of) cortisol.Here is a cool link:<http://www.drrind. com/scorecardmat rix.asp>I hope it helps you find some clues as to what is causing it. I still haven't studied the thyroid, adrenals, and pancreas enough to understand what is going on with them and why the imbalances happen in our kids. I DO know that there is often a history of thyroid problems in families of children with autism (whether it is known or not).I certainly believe that having adrenal cortex extract on hand is a good thing for people who are doing chelation and other forms of detox.>> My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of > chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken, carrots, and > celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly coated > with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed Vegetables, > organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating > every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be doing > this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?>

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there should be some on www.allergygrocer.com or I may have a box I am getting rid of that I can send you if you want to just pay the shipping

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Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weight

My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken, carrots, and celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly coated with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed Vegetables, organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be doing this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?

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I can do that, because I can't find the product on that site. If I actually have a box, then maybe my local health food store can order it for me.

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How do I get you the shipping cost?

From: Christel King <christel76@together .net>Subject: Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weightTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 1:43 PM

leaky gut....meaning his gut is in shreds so it can't absorb anything, MUCH of what you have listed are also yeast feeders so it's likly one of the big causes ripping UP the gut, to stop the cycle you would have to stop feeding the yeast so it can die off and get out of the gut and the gut repair itself. things like L-gluamine can help speed up repair, and to help get rid of yeast you can do things like GSE, nystatine, diflucan, biotin, high dose probiotics, caprilic acid, garlic, cranberries, ect.....the rice is a HUGE yeast feeder, apples and bananas as well. the fruit leathers would be HUGE yeast feeders and depending on the tueky breast slices (are we talking deli meats??) they may have added sugar and may not be gfcf which cn also have issues in and of itself. in place of the rice pasta you could try bean pastas, in place of the applesauce do pear sause, for other fruits stick to berries, blackberries,

raspberries, blueberries and cranberries (NON SWEETENED) think meats and veggies as much as possible

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Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weight

My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken, carrots, and celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly coated with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed Vegetables, organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be doing this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?

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i will check and see if I still have a box, it WILL Be likly opened already and a partail box but even If I find the box perhaps I can give you the name of the maker and you can find it online to

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Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weight

My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken, carrots, and celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly coated with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed Vegetables, organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be doing this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?

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Thank you. I ordered the SCD diet and a cookbook off Amazon last night. I also went back to my sons IGG allergen test and double checked those foods. There are still a few low reactivity foods he eats that I plan to take away for a bit to see if that helps. Also I ordered TriEnza from Houston Enzymes. We had done the chewables in the past, but I do not think those will be SCD legal. I also ordered Kirkmans Cod liver oil to replace our Nordic Naturals due to the soybean oil in it. Do you allow your child to eat fruit on the diet?

Subject: Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weightTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 9:08 PM

this is exactly bms our son had before SCD. while waiting for the bookyou can also read info on the websitehttp://breakingthev iciouscycle. info/autism/ autism.htmmaybe try Houston Enzymes in addition or instead of the one you areusing (?), also Enzymedica is a very good brand...Natasa> >> > My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of> > chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken, carrots, and> > celery. Chicken nuggets made

with fresh chicken breasts lightly> coated> > with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed> Vegetables,> > organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating> > every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be> doing> > this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?> >>>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date:12/29/2008 10:48 AM>

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You should check for diabetis. That happened to my son. He was diagnose 6 months ago. Does he urinate a lot?JoanieSent on the Now Network™ from my Sprint® BlackBerryFrom: "austenh31" Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 04:30:55 -0000To: <mb12 valtrex >Subject: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weight My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken,carrots, and celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly coated with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed Vegetables, organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be doing this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?

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Is he gaining in height?

Debi

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> From: Christel King <christel76@together .net>

> Subject: Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the

time,but does not seem to gain weight

> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 1:43 PM

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> leaky gut....meaning his gut is in shreds so it can't absorb

anything, MUCH of what you have listed are also yeast feeders so it's

likly one of the big causes ripping UP the gut, to stop the cycle you

would have to stop feeding the yeast so it can die off and get out of

the gut and the gut repair itself.  things like L-gluamine can help

speed up repair, and to help get rid of yeast you can do things like

GSE, nystatine, diflucan, biotin, high dose probiotics, caprilic acid,

garlic, cranberries, ect.....the rice is a HUGE yeast feeder, apples

and bananas as well. the fruit leathers would be HUGE yeast feeders

and depending on the tueky breast slices (are we talking deli meats??)

they may have added sugar and may not be gfcf which cn also have

issues in and of itself.  in place of the rice pasta you could try

bean pastas, in place of the applesauce do pear sause, for other

fruits stick to berries, blackberries, raspberries, blueberries and

cranberries

> (NON SWEETENED)  think meats and veggies as much as possible

>  

> Recovering from Autism is a marathon

> NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!

> Read more about it on my BLOGs at

> http://www.myspace. com/christelking

> http://foggyrock. com/MyPage/ recoveringwishes

> http://www.facebook .com/profile. php?id=677063169

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> My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of

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> celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly coated

> with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed Vegetables,

> organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating

> every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be doing

> this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?

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My son does have all three. What do we do for parasites?!?!Sent from my iPhone

You might consider the possibility of parasites. The combination of

eating a lot and not gaining makes me think of this. Does your child

have an itch anal area? What about grinding of the teeth? What about

worse behavior around the full moon? Those are some symptoms I have

read about.

Irene

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i know you've already received a lot of responses on this, but i

wanted to tell you our experience. our son was a GREAT eater - would

eat large quantities of food. but sometime after he hit 18-24 mos.,

he quit gaining weight. it took us almost a year to notice it and

when when we questioned it, his doctors told us it's fine aqnd typical

for toddlers. but i don't think it's normal for a 2 year old to eat

an adult size plate at a mexican restaurant and not gain weight. he

did grow in height, but maybe an inch or or so over a year. his shoe

size barely increased as well.

the first time we met with our DAN (back in May) he put us on SCD

immediately. we did it for four months and our boy gained 4 lbs. and

grew 2 inches in that time. it was a hard diet, and he was severely

self-limiting his food, so we went back to only GFCFSF - that was a

HUGE mistake. he completely crashed and quit gaining weight again,

massive out of control yeast flare, gut issues are out of control. i

think we did SCD just long enough to just begin reaping the benefits

and then we quit. we're now back on SCD, but at this point, we are

going through the intake process at the Thoughtful House to meet with

the GI doctor, Dr. Krigsman. i really wish we would have stuck with

it the first time around - i think for kids that have really bad gut

issues, it is a very valuable diet. we are also eagerly awaiting the

results of our parasitology test.

good luck with SCD - it is hard, but the benefits can be huge. don't

forget to check out www.pecanbread.com and there is also a yahoo group

for pecan bread that can be very helpful. also the book " we band of

mothers " is a book about recovery through SCD (and biomed).

www.SCDrecipes.com has some great recipes.

jennie

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> My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of

> chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken,carrots, and

> celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly

coated

> with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed

Vegetables,

> organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating

> every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be

doing

> this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?

>

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My son doesn't have parasites, so I " m not too familiar with treatment. I know

there are things

that the DAN doctors can do, but if you're open to homeopathy, there's a woman

(

) at Homeopathy Center of Houston (they take phone consults) who is an

expert at

treating for parasites.

I wish you good health.

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yicks, cipro is nasty stuff, you will have far more then a 1 plus for yeast after that

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Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weightTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 7:01 PM

In our house these symptoms were parasites also. In addition, other symptoms can include alternating between constipation and diarreah, itchy nose and night waking between 2-4 AM. Have you run a stool test lately? If you just want to check for parasites only, Metametrix has a parasitoloty stool test for around $100.It took us 4 months to finally get rid of parasite.Good Luck!julia>> You might consider the possibility of parasites. The combination of > eating a lot and not gaining makes me think of this. Does your child > have an itch anal area? What about grinding of the teeth? What about > worse behavior around the full moon? Those are some symptoms I have > read about.> > Irene>

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our son would eat more then that, we decided to test him one day at age 3 to see how much he would eat if we didn't stop him. (hadn't grown or gained in over a year) he had I think it was 3-5 pork chops, 7 WHOLE squashes and 3 potatoes, at that point we stopped. he never got full, and keep asking for more.....and never gained weight. we found out he was lacking in enzymes to break down carbs and sugars, protien and fats., we put him on enzymes ect......it took getting rid of yeast to change things

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Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weight

i know you've already received a lot of responses on this, but i wanted to tell you our experience. our son was a GREAT eater - would eat large quantities of food. but sometime after he hit 18-24 mos., he quit gaining weight. it took us almost a year to notice it and when when we questioned it, his doctors told us it's fine aqnd typical for toddlers. but i don't think it's normal for a 2 year old to eat an adult size plate at a mexican restaurant and not gain weight. he did grow in height, but maybe an inch or or so over a year. his shoe size barely increased as well.the first time we met with our DAN (back in May) he put us on SCD immediately. we did it for four months and our boy gained 4 lbs. and grew 2 inches in that time. it was a hard diet, and he was severely self-limiting his food, so we went back to only GFCFSF - that was a HUGE mistake. he completely crashed and quit gaining weight again, massive out of control yeast flare, gut issues are out of control. i think we did SCD just long enough to just begin reaping the benefits and then we quit. we're now back on SCD, but at this point, we are going through the intake process at the Thoughtful House to meet with the GI doctor, Dr. Krigsman. i really wish we would have stuck with it the first time around - i think for kids that have really bad gut issues, it is a very valuable diet. we are also eagerly awaiting the results of our parasitology test. good luck with SCD - it is hard, but the benefits can be huge. don't forget to check out www.pecanbread.com and there is also a yahoo group for pecan bread that can be very helpful. also the book "we band of mothers" is a book about recovery through SCD (and biomed). www.SCDrecipes.com has some great recipes.jennie>> My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of > chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken,carrots, and > celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly coated > with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed Vegetables, > organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating > every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be doing > this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?>

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Yes, he does urinate often.

Subject: Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weightTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 8:11 PM

You should check for diabetis. That happened to my son. He was diagnose 6 months ago. Does he urinate a lot?Joanie

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From: "austenh31" Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 04:30:55 -0000To: <mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com>Subject: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weight

My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken, carrots, and celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly coated with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed Vegetables, organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be doing this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?

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The bad bacteria were: Citrobacter freundii and Pseudomonas aeruginosa. We have not had a second stool sample sent out to evaluate if it helped yet.

From: <rickjuliarusso@ comcast.net>Subject: Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weightTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 7:01 PM

In our house these symptoms were parasites also. In addition, other symptoms can include alternating between constipation and diarreah, itchy nose and night waking between 2-4 AM. Have you run a stool test lately? If you just want to check for parasites only, Metametrix has a parasitoloty stool test for around $100.It took us 4 months to finally get rid of parasite.Good Luck!julia>> You might consider the possibility of parasites. The combination of > eating a lot and not gaining makes me think of this. Does your child > have an itch anal area? What about grinding of the teeth? What about > worse behavior around the full moon? Those are some symptoms I have > read about.> >

Irene>

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Yes he is gaining height. He is a tall little guy!

Subject: Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weightTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 11:41 PM

Is he gaining in height?Debi> > From: Christel King <christel76@ together .net>> Subject: Re: Excessive eating? He eats all thetime,but does not seem to gain weight> To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. com> Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 1:43 PM> > > > > > leaky gut....meaning his gut is in shreds so it can't absorbanything, MUCH of what you have listed are also yeast feeders so it'slikly one of the big causes ripping UP the gut, to stop the cycle youwould have to stop feeding the yeast so it can die off and get out ofthe gut and the gut repair itself. things like L-gluamine can helpspeed up repair, and to help get rid of yeast you can do things likeGSE, nystatine, diflucan, biotin, high dose probiotics, caprilic acid,garlic, cranberries,

ect.....the rice is a HUGE yeast feeder, applesand bananas as well. the fruit leathers would be HUGE yeast feedersand depending on the tueky breast slices (are we talking deli meats??)they may have added sugar and may not be gfcf which cn also haveissues in and of itself. in place of the rice pasta you could trybean pastas, in place of the applesauce do pear sause, for otherfruits stick to berries, blackberries, raspberries, blueberries andcranberries> (NON SWEETENED) think meats and veggies as much as possible> > Recovering from Autism is a marathon> NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!> Read more about it on my BLOGs at> http://www.myspace. com/christelking> http://foggyrock. com/MyPage/ recoveringwishes> http://www.facebook .com/profile. php?id=677063169> > > Excessive eating? He eats all the time,butdoes not seem to gain weight> > > > My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of > chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken, carrots, and > celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly coated > with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed Vegetables, > organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating > every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be doing > this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?> >

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You might consider the Metametrix stool test which is more sensitive to

finding parasites because of its testing method.

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Pseudomonas is +4 for my daughter, which is what she was prescribed the cipro for. Have you noticed any behavioral differences good or bad since the cipro?? One of my daughter's problems are excessive stomach aches that I still don't know the culprit for and am suspecting are from the bacteria. Just curious of others' battle with this particular bacteria

From: <rickjuliarusso@ comcast.net>Subject: Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weightTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 7:01 PM

In our house these symptoms were parasites also. In addition, other symptoms can include alternating between constipation and diarreah, itchy nose and night waking between 2-4 AM. Have you run a stool test lately? If you just want to check for parasites only, Metametrix has a parasitoloty stool test for around $100.It took us 4 months to finally get rid of parasite.Good Luck!julia>> You might consider the possibility of parasites. The combination of > eating a lot and not gaining makes me think of this. Does your child > have an itch anal area? What about grinding of the teeth? What about > worse behavior around the full moon? Those are some symptoms I have > read about.> >

Irene>