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A couple things have helped me with my teeth. Every six months when I

went in for a checkup, I would have pockets (4s and 5s) and it seemed

like I had fillings fairly often. Once I switched from Crest to a

non-flouride toothpaste with Tea Tree Oil in it, they cleared right up.

I didn't have pockets anymore. The tea tree oil has antibacterial

properties which help clear up the gum disease, is my guess. The brand

of toothpaste I bought is Dessert Essence and has baking soda, so

perhaps the baking soda helps also.

Just thought I would throw this out there. I think there is brand

mouthwash that perhaps have similar properties that you could try. I

know when I ordered it from our coop, there were several flavors.

Kristi

Dental problems

All of my life i have had bad teeth. I imagine that this is partly

genetics

and partly to no dental care for the first couple of decades of life. :

)

Anyway, since my 20's i have had lots of gum problems with many pockets

with a few trips to the peridontist, many root canals with corresponding

crowns and a couple of bridges and surgeries to replace receding gums.

So--

I was hopeful that the " tooth soap " product would do " something " for

me. I

have used it for almost a year and today at the dentist for routine a

cleaning and to have a look see at a trouble spot i was disappointed.

The

dentist said that i am loosing ground with more receding gums, one

pocket

was no deeper but it is abscessed. Although my gums look just fine to

me

the dentist said that they are the wrong color " sort of purpley looking "

and

looked at me like i was some sort of alien creature. Again they look

normal

to me. I left with a prescription mouthwash and also one for an

antibiotic. I am fairly discouraged.

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Kristi wrote:

>

> A couple things have helped me with my teeth. Every six months when I

> went in for a checkup, I would have pockets (4s and 5s) and it seemed

> like I had fillings fairly often. Once I switched from Crest to a

> non-flouride toothpaste with Tea Tree Oil in it, they cleared right up.

> I didn't have pockets anymore. The tea tree oil has antibacterial

> properties which help clear up the gum disease, is my guess. The brand

> of toothpaste I bought is Dessert Essence and has baking soda, so

> perhaps the baking soda helps also.

>

> Just thought I would throw this out there. I think there is brand

> mouthwash that perhaps have similar properties that you could try. I

> know when I ordered it from our coop, there were several flavors.

>

> Kristi

Tea tree oil in a neti pot (with the usual saline) works wonders for

sinusitis too. Twice a day, as needed.

Of course sinusities, thin enamel are also signs of an underlying

problem, gluten intolerance being one of them, lack of vitamin D being

another (and of course the two go together!). Also I found that since I

started getting more Vit C my gums are FAR healthier, tho I never had

pockets.

-- Heidi Jean

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<sinusities, thin enamel are also signs of an underlying problem,

gluten intolerance being one of them, lack of vitamin D being another

(and of course the two go together!). Also I found that since I

started getting more Vit C my gums are FAR healthier, tho I never had

pockets.

>

> -- Heidi Jean

This is good to know because I suffer from these things, too. I

avoided gluten for 4 months and didn't feel better, so I started

eating oats again (which are often contaminated with gluten, I

realise) but now I think I'll stop the oats again. I have a feeling

that they aren't doing me any good. That's what my body seems to be

saying to me, even though I can't 'prove' it scientifically yet (until

I get tested for gluten intolerance, that is).

In the next few months, an issue of Wise Traditons (the WAPF's

quarterly journal) will be devoted to dental care. Most of the

articles will eventually appear on the website. I'm really looking

forward to the issue! I have often wondered why dental health has not

been covered extensively by the WAPF, given that WAP was a dentist,

focusing primarily on the state of the people's teeth he studied. Many

people I've spoken to feel the same way. When the issue comes out, we

won't be wondering and/or whining so much, I imagine. :-)

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wapriceisright wrote:

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> <sinusities, thin enamel are also signs of an underlying problem,

> gluten intolerance being one of them, lack of vitamin D being another

> (and of course the two go together!). Also I found that since I

> started getting more Vit C my gums are FAR healthier, tho I never had

> pockets.

> >

> > -- Heidi Jean

>

> This is good to know because I suffer from these things, too. I

> avoided gluten for 4 months and didn't feel better, so I started

> eating oats again (which are often contaminated with gluten, I

> realise) but now I think I'll stop the oats again. I have a feeling

> that they aren't doing me any good. That's what my body seems to be

> saying to me, even though I can't 'prove' it scientifically yet (until

> I get tested for gluten intolerance, that is).

Once you get a good sinus infection going it's hard to get rid of, and

it really will wear you down. I used to be on antibiotics every winter,

and on Guifenesen (which really helps prevent them, and it's low on side

effects). There aren't many docs who really know how to treat them, but

finding one is worth it.

Dairy seem to trigger sinus infections in some people too, even folks

who aren't actually allergic to it. It causes more drainage for some

folks. Some other fairly harmless foods can also cause drainage, for

reasons that aren't clear. My doc prescribed Atropine nasal spray for

folks who get " drippy " from some foods for no obvious reason.

-- Heidi Jean

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> Also, i have for the last year had a lot of sinus/allergy trouble and when

> i

> sleep my nose clogs up and so i imagine that i am mouth breathing a lot.

> Anyone with any idea of this could be a contributing problem? The sinus

> drainage makes me thirsty too.

>

> Yuck!

>

> Kathy A.

If its like a postnasal drip that can make you cough or clear your throat

often too it's most likely a casein allergy.

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This sounds rather spammish to me.

>In answer to your gums problems...I have for years been using " Pristine "

>It is a liguid oral hygiene product from a company called Body Electric

>you can call them at 800-692-2390

> their product has helped my gums from receding....One bottle lasts for 2

> months costing $20.00 plus sh.

> Try it out what have you got to lose...

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<<A couple things have helped me with my teeth. Every six months when I

went in for a checkup, I would have pockets (4s and 5s) and it seemed

like I had fillings fairly often. Once I switched from Crest to a

non-flouride toothpaste with Tea Tree Oil in it, they cleared right up.

I didn't have pockets anymore. The tea tree oil has antibacterial

properties which help clear up the gum disease, is my guess>>

The tooth soap that i have been using doesn't have fluoride either but it

also doesn't taste very good so maybe i will try switching. I make my own

CS and i will start rinsing more often with that. I did notice that the

infection got better when i rinsed several times a day. The rinse that the

dentist prescribed is called Peridex which is just an antimicrobial except

that it has a list of cautions with it such as DO NOT SWALLOW and may stain

teeth. The Tetracycline is worse, stating to not lie down for at least 30

minutes, take 1 hour before or 2 hours after eating and NO calcium products

at all- not even in a vitamin and seems to be especially harmful if your

pregnant or thinking of becoming pregnant.

Anyway thanks- I'll check out the HFS tomorrow

Kathy A.

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<<Of course sinusities, thin enamel are also signs of an underlying

problem, gluten intolerance being one of them, lack of vitamin D being

another (and of course the two go together!). Also I found that since I

started getting more Vit C my gums are FAR healthier, tho I never had

pockets>>

I think that the sinus issues bother me more right now than the abscess. I

have constant sludge going down the back of my throat. Sometimes enough that

it makes me nauseous.

I have been working on eliminating gluten. I do very well till i " get

behind " and then cave in to something quick which normally means a burger

with bun. Since i have Osteoarthritis and receding gums with bone loss and

sinus problems it seems that gluten intolerance and maybe dairy also would

be a logical explanation. With my low back degeneration i have nerve issues

that connect to bowels /bladder and i am a little hesitant to take Vit C

that may cause even more problems but i will try 500 mg for a start and see

what it does. : )

I am taking 2 Tblsp daily of Carlsons CLO. I really would like to get the

testing done so that i actually know what i am or am not dealing with. It's

moved way up on the list !!

Kathy A.

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I am not sure this will help, but I work at a CPA Firm that does

accounting for Dentists. I have asked some of the dentists that come

to our office on this. They stated it could be the sugar in the

Gatorade that is causing the issues. They suggest that if you are

drinking Gatorade to rinse your mouth often to get the sugar off your

teeth. Gatorade has as much or more sugar than some soda. Not sure if

this will help, but it is the answer I got when I inquired about a

cause.

Joyce

5/18/07 Bay City, MI

251/242/170/? and healthy

pre-op/surgery/now/goal

41 inches lost

>

> It has been quite a long time since I posted but I have been having

> huge problems with my teeth. My dentist and I have discussed and

tried

> to figure out the source of all my tooth decay issues. I have had

to

> have 6 root canals this year and have had to replace 7 crowns as

the

> teeth all decayed under the crowns that were already in place? One

> tooth decayed so badly under the crown it broke off at the gumline,

> because it was under the crown we did not see the decay, and the

crown

> was only put in a little over 2 years ago! I have always taken

> excellent care of my teeth and have undergone all of these problems

> just this past year. My MGB was in 2003, so just curious if anyone

else

> has had any problems of this type?

>

> Thanks for any help or input.

>

> Pattie in Redondo

>

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Do you drink a lot of Gatorade and/or fruit juices? The sugar

concentrates in these things are enormous and other MGBers have

mentioned that they also have had tooth decay from drinking so much

of these beverages. I don't know if that is your issue, but it might

be worth pursuing.

Meg

>

> It has been quite a long time since I posted but I have been having

> huge problems with my teeth. My dentist and I have discussed and

tried

> to figure out the source of all my tooth decay issues. I have had

to

> have 6 root canals this year and have had to replace 7 crowns as

the

> teeth all decayed under the crowns that were already in place? One

> tooth decayed so badly under the crown it broke off at the gumline,

> because it was under the crown we did not see the decay, and the

crown

> was only put in a little over 2 years ago! I have always taken

> excellent care of my teeth and have undergone all of these problems

> just this past year. My MGB was in 2003, so just curious if anyone

else

> has had any problems of this type?

>

> Thanks for any help or input.

>

> Pattie in Redondo

>

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I have read that a lot of problems can be because of gatorade. The sugar content

I think is why.

Kathy

Re: dental problems

I have never had any major problems with my teeth and

in thelast year I have had 2 root canals and my teth

keep chipping and breaking .... my dentist can't

figure it out wither. My calcium levels are fine BTW.

Good luck

shelly 3-21-06

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--- Emmett <pemmett@...<mailto:pemmett@...>>

wrote:

> It has been quite a long time since I posted but I

> have been having

> huge problems with my teeth. My dentist and I have

> discussed and tried

> to figure out the source of all my tooth decay

> issues. I have had to

> have 6 root canals this year and have had to replace

> 7 crowns as the

> teeth all decayed under the crowns that were already

> in place? One

> tooth decayed so badly under the crown it broke off

> at the gumline,

> because it was under the crown we did not see the

> decay, and the crown

> was only put in a little over 2 years ago! I have

> always taken

> excellent care of my teeth and have undergone all of

> these problems

> just this past year. My MGB was in 2003, so just

> curious if anyone else

> has had any problems of this type?

>

> Thanks for any help or input.

>

> Pattie in Redondo

>

>

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Well, That does make me feel better at least I do not feel alone in

this awful situation. My frustration to all of this is I already had

major cosmetic work with crowns and veneers on my whole mouth a few

years before the MGB so I thought I was good to go after the weight

loss! Surprise! I have had to redo most of the work previously done

and added a few new ones because of all the damage and decay? So

warning to all, even though I switched over to V8 instead of Gatorade

early after my MGB be very careful. The cost of redoing your smile is

horrific, especially if you have to redo it over again! I sure hope

this is it and over the years ahead my teeth do not continue down

this road? I agree dentures are not an acceptable option to me either.

Thank you for your input!

Pattie

>

> Hi Pattie,

>

> I posted last year a warning to everybody to be careful about

their teeth

> after getting disastrous news from my own dentist. I have

stopped drinking

> Gatorade since the sugar content is quite high but it was too

late. I have now

> spent close to $60,000 for " a complete rehabilitation of my

mouth. " I have

> had more root canals than I can count and have crowns on every

tooth. I do

> worry about what will happen if a tooth starts to have problems

under one of

> the crowns but I wasn't willing to lose my teeth and get

dentures. It's been

> a long process and a very expensive one. On the other hand, I get

many

> compliments on my smile these days.

>

> Would I still have had the MGB if I had known I would have all

these dental

> problems? You bet I would. I had the MGB in 2002 and went from

239 pounds

> to 118. I love my new body and the self-confidence of knowing I

look good.

> The good feeling I have about myself now is worth every cent I

have spent. In

> fairness to the Gatorade, my teeth have always been problematic

and I have

> been prone to cavities all my life. I think the constant intake

of a sugary

> beverage made the problems worse but as I say, I wouldn't trade my

new life.

>

> Doris

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hello. I also used to have perfect teeth. I had my surgery 11/04. I

seriously had 22 cavities last time I went to the denist. I had not

been there for 2 1/2 yrs, but still, OMG, I was shocked. He

speculates that I may of at some time had some reflux issues, which

reeks havic on your teeth especially at night he said. I remember a

time when I was popping tums like candy, so I do not doubt what he

said. I'm still in shock about all the cavities, but onward and

upward I guess. thanks, susan

Dr. R & D

Bay City, MI

11/30/04

258/150

>

> It has been quite a long time since I posted but I have been having

> huge problems with my teeth. My dentist and I have discussed and

tried

> to figure out the source of all my tooth decay issues. I have had

to

> have 6 root canals this year and have had to replace 7 crowns as

the

> teeth all decayed under the crowns that were already in place? One

> tooth decayed so badly under the crown it broke off at the gumline,

> because it was under the crown we did not see the decay, and the

crown

> was only put in a little over 2 years ago! I have always taken

> excellent care of my teeth and have undergone all of these problems

> just this past year. My MGB was in 2003, so just curious if anyone

else

> has had any problems of this type?

>

> Thanks for any help or input.

>

> Pattie in Redondo

>

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I have had major dental work and again can't explain why. My only explanation

is the need to maintain your calcium levels. I am almost 5 years out. Gosh,

that was a revelation for me!!!! I can't believe it.Would I do it again, in a

heart beat. It is the most life changing thing I did for myself.

in NM

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20:18:08 +0000Subject: Re: dental problems

Well, That does make me feel better at least I do not feel alone in this awful

situation. My frustration to all of this is I already had major cosmetic work

with crowns and veneers on my whole mouth a few years before the MGB so I

thought I was good to go after the weight loss! Surprise! I have had to redo

most of the work previously done and added a few new ones because of all the

damage and decay? So warning to all, even though I switched over to V8 instead

of Gatorade early after my MGB be very careful. The cost of redoing your smile

is horrific, especially if you have to redo it over again! I sure hope this is

it and over the years ahead my teeth do not continue down this road? I agree

dentures are not an acceptable option to me either.Thank you for your

input!Pattie>> Hi

Pattie,> > I posted last year a warning to everybody to be careful about their

teeth > after getting disastrous news from my own dentist. I have stopped

drinking > Gatorade since the sugar content is quite high but it was too late. I

have now > spent close to $60,000 for " a complete rehabilitation of my mouth. " I

have > had more root canals than I can count and have crowns on every tooth. I

do > worry about what will happen if a tooth starts to have problems under one

of > the crowns but I wasn't willing to lose my teeth and get dentures. It's

been > a long process and a very expensive one. On the other hand, I get many >

compliments on my smile these days.> > Would I still have had the MGB if I had

known I would have all these dental > problems? You bet I would. I had the MGB

in 2002 and went from 239 pounds > to 118. I love my new body and the

self-confidence of knowing I look good. > The good feeling I have about myself

now is worth every cent I have spent. In > fairness to the Gatorade, my teeth

have always been problematic and I have > been prone to cavities all my life. I

think the constant intake of a sugary > beverage made the problems worse but as

I say, I wouldn't trade my new life. > > Doris> > > >

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I now have a gap between my front teeth since becoming

a post op. I am thinking of getting braces. It is now

noticable in pictures

Barbara

1/26/07

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--- Kathy Apodaca <mamawapo@...> wrote:

> I have had major dental work and again can't explain

> why. My only explanation is the need to maintain

> your calcium levels. I am almost 5 years out.

> Gosh, that was a revelation for me!!!! I can't

> believe it.Would I do it again, in a heart beat. It

> is the most life changing thing I did for myself.

>

> in NM

>

>

> @...:

> pemmett@...: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:18:08

> +0000Subject: Re: dental problems

>

>

>

>

> Well, That does make me feel better at least I do

> not feel alone in this awful situation. My

> frustration to all of this is I already had major

> cosmetic work with crowns and veneers on my whole

> mouth a few years before the MGB so I thought I was

> good to go after the weight loss! Surprise! I have

> had to redo most of the work previously done and

> added a few new ones because of all the damage and

> decay? So warning to all, even though I switched

> over to V8 instead of Gatorade early after my MGB be

> very careful. The cost of redoing your smile is

> horrific, especially if you have to redo it over

> again! I sure hope this is it and over the years

> ahead my teeth do not continue down this road? I

> agree dentures are not an acceptable option to me

> either.Thank you for your input!Pattie>>

> Hi Pattie,> > I posted last year a warning to

> everybody to be careful about their teeth > after

> getting disastrous news from my own dentist. I have

> stopped drinking > Gatorade since the sugar content

> is quite high but it was too late. I have now >

> spent close to $60,000 for " a complete

> rehabilitation of my mouth. " I have > had more root

> canals than I can count and have crowns on every

> tooth. I do > worry about what will happen if a

> tooth starts to have problems under one of > the

> crowns but I wasn't willing to lose my teeth and get

> dentures. It's been > a long process and a very

> expensive one. On the other hand, I get many >

> compliments on my smile these days.> > Would I still

> have had the MGB if I had known I would have all

> these dental > problems? You bet I would. I had the

> MGB in 2002 and went from 239 pounds > to 118. I

> love my new body and the self-confidence of knowing

> I look good. > The good feeling I have about myself

> now is worth every cent I have spent. In > fairness

> to the Gatorade, my teeth have always been

> problematic and I have > been prone to cavities all

> my life. I think the constant intake of a sugary >

> beverage made the problems worse but as I say, I

> wouldn't trade my new life. > > Doris> > > >

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Yes, , ever since my achalasia started, my tooth problems started...

My dentist is convinced there is a connection and so am I. Not only because of the regurgitation etc., but because of lack of vitamins and minerals getting in as well. Living proof am I, I guess. Lost a large piece of one of my teeth yesterday afternoon. A visit to the dentist is first on my list when able to go out again (hey, ain't that a trip to look forward too? -LOL-).

Just make sure you get dental check ups every 6 months.

Isabella

Dental problems

I was wonderring if anyone else here has had trouble with their teeth since the onset of A? I never used to get cavities, but at my last dental appointment I was shocked to hear how much my teeth have started to decay. My dental hygeine practices haven't changed, and I'm not eating more sweets than I used to. My diet has changed, and I've had a lot of acid reflux, regurgitation, and vomitting in the last three years. Would that cause tooth decay?I really know very little about dental health issues, so I was wonderring if there's a connection?? Anyone?--

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> I was wonderring if anyone else here has had trouble with their teeth

> since the onset of A? I never used to get cavities, but at my last

> dental appointment I was shocked to hear how much my teeth have

started

> to decay. My dental hygeine practices haven't changed, and I'm not

> eating more sweets than I used to. My diet has changed, and I've had

a

> lot of acid reflux, regurgitation, and vomitting in the last three

> years. Would that cause tooth decay?

> I really know very little about dental health issues, so I was

> wonderring if there's a connection?? Anyone?

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my teeth have all decayed,so now I have to have them all pulled

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My dentist keeps a regular check on my teeth. The acid had got really bad at one point and started to stain and eat at the enamel on my teeth. To help out they gave me a prescription toothpaste that would help build the strength of the teeth back up.

in KY

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>> I was wonderring if anyone else here has had trouble with their teeth > since the onset of A? I never used to get cavities, but at my last > dental appointment I was shocked to hear how much my teeth have started > to decay. My dental hygeine practices haven't changed, and I'm not > eating more sweets than I used to. My diet has changed, and I've had a > lot of acid reflux, regurgitation, and vomitting in the last three > years. Would that cause tooth decay?> I really know very little about dental health issues, so I was > wonderring if there's a connection?? Anyone?> -->my teeth have all decayed,so now I have to have them all pulled More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger.

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(and others),

I think that's the wise thing to do - get regular check-ups. As

a dental hygienist, I also agree with the prescription toothpaste.

Those usually have a high fluoride content in them to help make the

tooth a little stronger to hopefully withstand any acid reflux or

regurg. of rotting food.

Notan, I know that there are some bad dentists out there, but

they're not all bad. Some I've met or have heard of (also, one I

worked for 20 years ago) really push having big procedures done and

have a whole program to convince patients of why they need them. Some

(hopefully, most) are honest and conservative with their treatment

recommendations, like the one I work for. I've worked for him for 20

years and I wouldn't have stayed there that long if he was

unscrupulous or too agressive with his recommendations, just to make

an extra buck. The hard part for patients is knowing the difference,

since most people don't have dental knowledge themselves. I guess the

same goes for any other professional (doctor, lawyer, accountant,

etc.).

in Michigan (getting off her dental soap box, now :)

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> My dentist keeps a regular check on my teeth. The acid had got

really bad at one point and started to stain and eat at the enamel on

my teeth. To help out they gave me a prescription toothpaste that

would help build the strength of the teeth back up.

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> in KY

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