Re: Candida (for Rogene)

[Guest guest]

Cherie,

Virtually all the women that have come to the group

after breast implants have a Candida problem. . .

I'm sure Dr. Leu will have some recommendations.

Some of our favorites are Garden of Life's Fungal

Defense (one bottle), then Primal Defense

indefinitely. The closer you stick to an anti-fungal

diet, the faster you'll do better.

You would do well to read up on Candida . . . You'll

find that it has several aspects. . . Diet (sugar

free), something to kill off the Candida, then

something to replace the friendly organisms that have

been killed off. . .

One really has to stay on it though . . . It take a

time and discipline to beat! It's well worth it

though!

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene, My name is Roxana I am from Lima-Peru in South America. I had my Saline Implants on June 27th 2005 everything was OK until the last days of November. I starting filling problems in my neck but I thought I wasn't getting a good night of sleep, but then I started filling pain on my joints specially in the mornings. On December 24th I couldn't get up from the bed anymore the pain was to strong and all over my body. I started seeing Doctors On Monday December 26th, But for almost a month I had seen so many doctors and had many different things diagnosed. All my tests were great I had only a few red marks on my inmune system but they said that it wasn't to important. Finally I was diagnosed with Reumatoide Arthritis and since there (almost 2 months) I have been threated. During this time I also had the worry that my implants could have something to

do with all my problems so I went to see the surgeon that put me the implants but He said it was imposible and showed me alot of research done which said that the implants were not the cause of my illness. I also saw a Doctor in the USA who said exactly the same thing and asked me to stop worriyng about my implants. It's been 2 months that I have been with my traetment and I am almost feeling like before I can do everything and each day it passes I feel better. I am tacking all my medicines and seeing my Doc every 3 weeks. I am also running tests and they are all great better than before. I don't know what to do? I was thinking of getting an explant but I am still not completely sure if that is the right thing to do. Please help me understand what is really going on and how something like this can happen. I have always been told tha Saline Implants are not harmful is just salt and

water I have been told. How can things like this happen? Why? How can we be positive that the implants are causing this problems specially if I feel better every day. My doctor here is researching because I have asked him to and given him all this information so thanksfully he is a good person and doctor. I still need to be sure and then talk to my surgeon to see if he will be able to do the explant in the correct way. Thank you in advance for your help and I will be waiting for your response. Kind regards, RoxanaRogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: Cherie,Virtually all the women that have come to the groupafter breast implants have a Candida problem. . . I'm sure Dr. Leu will have some

recommendations. Some of our favorites are Garden of Life's FungalDefense (one bottle), then Primal Defenseindefinitely. The closer you stick to an anti-fungaldiet, the faster you'll do better.You would do well to read up on Candida . . . You'llfind that it has several aspects. . . Diet (sugarfree), something to kill off the Candida, thensomething to replace the friendly organisms that havebeen killed off. . . One really has to stay on it though . . . It take atime and discipline to beat! It's well worth itthough!Hugs,RogeneOpinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to

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[Guest guest]

Hi Roxana,

I'm happy to hear you're doing better! . . . and that

your doctor is supporting you! . . . Even if he has to

do his homework yet.

Do you know what your doctors are treating you for? .

.. . What medication you're taking?

My concern is that - assuming you're taking steroids,

that it's a temporary fix. Once the effect wears off,

you'll slip back into the same condition. In the

meantime, steriods simply aren't good for the body!

If the doctor is treating you with antibiotics - he

must be treating you for an infection. Where did the

infection originate? . . . If your implants are

contaminated, here again you'll regress once you quit

taking your medications. Medication will not affect

the organisms inside your implants. In the meantime,

antibiotics kill off the beneficial flora our body

needs - creating problems like systemic fungal and

yeast infections.

If the doctor is treating you with anti-fungals, it's

much the same thing . . . Once you quit the

medication, the negative organisms will rebound faster

than the beneficial organism, leaving you sick again.

One problem with using antifungals for an extended

period is possible damage to the liver from the toxic

die-off of fungal organisms.

Maybe the doctor is treating you for something else.

This is just what comes to my mind right now. . . My

suggestion is to use this time of feeling well to get

your implants out so you can move forward and not have

to worry about getting sick, or sicker, from your

implants in the future.

We can't " prove " implants make one sick . . . However,

after seeing woman after woman coming to the support

groups with symptoms like yours, we can feel confident

in telling you that it's likely your implants.

One of the problems with breast implant studies is

that they eliminated women from the studies once they

had their implants removed - That got rid of the women

who got sick from their implants! . . .

Another problem is that most doctors won't remove

implants properly. They leave the capsules behind! . .

.. With contaminated capsules left in ones body, one

probably won't get well! That makes the doctor right

when they say removing implants won't help a woman get

well!

Bear with your doctor! He sounds reasonable. . . But

don't give in! . . . It's YOUR body. YOU are the one

who is paying for the doctor's services. YOU have the

right to demand that you be treated properly! INSIST

on it!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Cherie,

I'm overjoyed to hear that you're feeling better lately. You have

worked so hard at getting well, I really admire you for that. What

type of supplements are you taking now? I remember Isocort or

something like that, and that you had changed your diet to where you

were avoiding certain foods, but I don't remember what else you've

been doing.

Sis

>

> Hi Rogene

> I know you are well knowledged in Candida, and I wanted to tell you

> that I just got results back from Dr. Leu, and did test positive for

> it. I will check the archives and see if I can find some of the

> information I know you have posted about it before. I am going to

take

> Berbercap and Oregano to treat to start - if it doesn't work, I will

> have to try ketoconazole.

> Hope you are feeling good.

> Cherie

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sis

I'm overjoyed too - I'm sort of on a " high " about my health right

now. I felt like I was doing all this stuff and nothing was

happening, but about a week and a half ago, its like something

clicked and I started to improve quickly. My energy level is really

high, and my pain, on a scale of 1-10, is about a 3. I am taking

Westhroid and L-tyrosine for low thyroid levels, etc., iron, isocort

and sterinol for inflammation. I'm doing the IR sauna 3-4 x per

week, brisk walking, juice organic fruit and vegies twice a day,

gave up wheat and dairy, the only sweetener I use is pure maple

syrup (limited), and my diet is strictly organic - no artificial

stuff or preservatives.

I did just test positive for Candida, and am waiting for treatment

from Dr. Leu.

You know it is so easy to lose motivation when it seems like nothing

is happening, despite your efforts, but with dedication, it WILL

kick in for you too. I was so worried when I lost my main client,

but what a blessing it was not to have to pay so many taxes, and I

have more time to take care of my family and my health. God knows

exactly what we need, and I believe that when we ask him to show us,

we need to trust that He is faithful and will show us - in his time.

Thank you Sis,

Cherie

> >

> > Hi Rogene

> > I know you are well knowledged in Candida, and I wanted to tell

you

> > that I just got results back from Dr. Leu, and did test positive

for

> > it. I will check the archives and see if I can find some of the

> > information I know you have posted about it before. I am going

to

> take

> > Berbercap and Oregano to treat to start - if it doesn't work, I

will

> > have to try ketoconazole.

> > Hope you are feeling good.

> > Cherie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Roxana

It sounds like you have a very nice doctor and that is something to

be grateful for. However, most doctors honestly (and some

dishonestly) don't think implants cause illness because they have

been told they don't. They tend to say that studies show that

implanted women don't have any higher rate of autoimmune disease

than nonimplanted women. What they don't say is that most of those

studies have been funded by implant manufacturers who have an

invested interest in the outcome. Even if the studies were done

correctly and interpreted correctly, I wouldn't put much stock in

them. How many times have we seen studies saying something is good

for you, and then the opposite. CONSTANTLY. And even if studies

did show that implanted women didn't have a higher rate of

autoimmune disease...well those are still just statistics. That

still doesn't mean that they don't make women sick and that you

aren't sick from implants. The number of women on this site that

have gotten sick after implanted, and better after explanted is much

more powerful testimony in my opinion. I can tell you that less

than a week after getting my implants out, my severe brain

dysfunction left and hasn't come back. That was four years ago.

Many other symptoms improved within weeks.

Also, let us not forget the proof that we have here of people who

had implants removed that were black, or had yellow fluid in them,

or were tested and found to be contamintated with mold and other

pathogens.

You said that your doctor is treating you and you are getting

better. What is he treating you with? If you are getting better

because you are taking pain medications, then it is just masking

symptoms and you are not better. If he is treating you with any

immune suppressing drug such as prendisone, cortisone, methotrexate,

arava, and all the many many other RA drugs out there, those are not

cures either. In fact, they are hurting you. They are suppressing

your immune system and that is not good. If you truly have RA,

there is no conventional cure that a doctor has. The only thing

that comes close is antibiotic therapy, and that works because it is

killing off pathogens in your body that are causing your immune

illness. However, the implants can and will compromise your immune

system and if you don't get them out, I can guarantee the problem

with continue. So please understand that if you truly have RA

anything tht your doctor is currently giving you is probably only

treating the symptoms. In my opinion, you should get the implants

out. Then you will have a chance to get better without taking

drugs. I also belong to an antibiotic therapy website called the

Roadback. Many many people on that site have RA and many of them

have been on the immune suppressing drugs. They will tell you that

they often stop working and leave you with more problems. They

carry a higher risk of cancer and permanent immune system damage.

If you can stop your body from attacking itself by removing the

causes (one of them being implants) then you have a chance to let

your body heal itself. Please research the medicines that you are

taking. Pain meds--cox 2 inhibitors --have been shown to cause all

kinds of bad problems too. I am praying that God will guide you to

find the right path to take to healing. I feel that you did not

find this site by accident.

God bless,

Kathy

> Cherie,

>

> Virtually all the women that have come to the group

> after breast implants have a Candida problem. . .

>

> I'm sure Dr. Leu will have some recommendations.

>

> Some of our favorites are Garden of Life's Fungal

> Defense (one bottle), then Primal Defense

> indefinitely. The closer you stick to an anti-fungal

> diet, the faster you'll do better.

>

> You would do well to read up on Candida . . . You'll

> find that it has several aspects. . . Diet (sugar

> free), something to kill off the Candida, then

> something to replace the friendly organisms that have

> been killed off. . .

>

> One really has to stay on it though . . . It take a

> time and discipline to beat! It's well worth it

> though!

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>

>

[Guest guest]

Rogene

That is a really good reply to her post! You do an awesome job!

Love, Kathy

>

> Hi Roxana,

>

> I'm happy to hear you're doing better! . . . and that

> your doctor is supporting you! . . . Even if he has to

> do his homework yet.

>

> Do you know what your doctors are treating you for? .

> . . What medication you're taking?

>

> My concern is that - assuming you're taking steroids,

> that it's a temporary fix. Once the effect wears off,

> you'll slip back into the same condition. In the

> meantime, steriods simply aren't good for the body!

>

> If the doctor is treating you with antibiotics - he

> must be treating you for an infection. Where did the

> infection originate? . . . If your implants are

> contaminated, here again you'll regress once you quit

> taking your medications. Medication will not affect

> the organisms inside your implants. In the meantime,

> antibiotics kill off the beneficial flora our body

> needs - creating problems like systemic fungal and

> yeast infections.

>

> If the doctor is treating you with anti-fungals, it's

> much the same thing . . . Once you quit the

> medication, the negative organisms will rebound faster

> than the beneficial organism, leaving you sick again.

> One problem with using antifungals for an extended

> period is possible damage to the liver from the toxic

> die-off of fungal organisms.

>

> Maybe the doctor is treating you for something else.

> This is just what comes to my mind right now. . . My

> suggestion is to use this time of feeling well to get

> your implants out so you can move forward and not have

> to worry about getting sick, or sicker, from your

> implants in the future.

>

> We can't " prove " implants make one sick . . . However,

> after seeing woman after woman coming to the support

> groups with symptoms like yours, we can feel confident

> in telling you that it's likely your implants.

>

> One of the problems with breast implant studies is

> that they eliminated women from the studies once they

> had their implants removed - That got rid of the women

> who got sick from their implants! . . .

>

> Another problem is that most doctors won't remove

> implants properly. They leave the capsules behind! . .

> . With contaminated capsules left in ones body, one

> probably won't get well! That makes the doctor right

> when they say removing implants won't help a woman get

> well!

>

> Bear with your doctor! He sounds reasonable. . . But

> don't give in! . . . It's YOUR body. YOU are the one

> who is paying for the doctor's services. YOU have the

> right to demand that you be treated properly! INSIST

> on it!

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>