Re: Re: Hello Everyone- Sunny

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I bet your hubby still isn't speaking to you!

I haven't tried the capsules, but I found the liquid

doable when stirred into a glass of juice.

Rogene

--- " jdebolt@... " <jdebolt@...>

wrote:

> LOL LOL

> I bribed my hubby into that last night and he said

> the SAME thing....boy that stings!!!

> Seriously, do you think you get the same effects

> with pills that you would with the oil? Does anyone

> know?

> thanks.

> ~

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How much of the oil of oregno do you take ? Where do you get this ?

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LOL LOL

I bribed my hubby into that last night and he said the SAME thing....boy that stings!!!

Seriously, do you think you get the same effects with pills that you would with the oil? Does anyone know?

thanks.

~

Re: Hello Everyone> > > -> > > > I applaud your doctor for being open enough to use the antibiotic > therapy. Who do you go to? If the antibiotic therapy is not done > right, it won't be alot of help. What other meds did he have you > on? Most people who do the ap use minocin or doxycycline. That is > why I wonder what the other meds were. Also, antibiotic therapy can > makeyou herx and feel really bad until the herxes go away. > Definitely people often feel that they are getting worse before they > feel like they are getting better. > I have been on the www.roadback.org site for four years and I can > tell you that AP can work miracles. Approximately 66-85% of the > people who use it can expect to improve--some into a permanent > remission. I was tested for mycoplasma and had them. But many of > the people on ap don't get tested and it still helps them. I > certainly would keep it as an option. How long were you on the > therapy? It usually takes several months to a couple of years to > experience good improvement. I also believe that D'lenolate olive > leaf extract kills myco's and other pathogens that may be > responsible for our illness. So does Oil of Oregano and I have used > both. Ican tell you that I herxed really strongly to the olive leaf > and the herx brought the exact same symptoms that the antibiotics > did. It worsened all my symptoms and I would get scared and back > off of them due to the increased pains (especially headaches) and to > make sure I wasn't just getting worse. Both of these supplements > also kill candida. This iswhy I like to recommend them. > Antibiotics can worsen candida. However, most people on the ap take > probiotics and don't seem to do badly with yeast. Some of the > people were on a drug cocktail of diflucan, flagyl and minocin. It > packed a punch. It is hard to know what to do. I might start with > one or both of the olive leaf or oil of oregano first. Also keep > detoxing. Go slowly making sure not to do too many things at once. > We always seem to want to hit it with everything weve got but that > is often a mistake. We get in too much pain and get very depressed > and discouraged and mistakenly think we are getting worse.> Alot of what many of us here have done has been trial and error, > because it is almost impossible to know what our exact problems are, > or how to fix them. So we keep trying things that we have > researched and asking God to lead us down the right paths. I really > feel that believing that we are getting well is important to getting > well. There is alot to be said for an unstoppable positive attitude > (I fail miserably here at times--especially now with such changing > hormones). Laughter and joy are not only good for the soul, they > are also excellent for the immune system!> Hugs, Kathy > > > > > > -- In , Lamse > <wannabe_proverbs31@> wrote:> >> > Kathy,> > > > My doctor did the anitbiotic therapy on me for a while thinking > I had a mycroplasma. Then after a while he took me off it when he > put me on a "drug holiday." The same doctor that put me on as many > as 6 medications at one time, took me off all of them suddenly > because my symptoms still remained and no diagnosis was found. Then > he thought maybe my drug cocktail was causing it. This is the same > doctor that almost cried when I brought him all the implant > information. Do you think I should now seek the mycroplasma ideal > back to him? > > > > > > > > mikat828 <mikat828@> wrote:> > HI Jackie> > My husband's family has had alot of lupus and I have an aunt with > > lupus and I was diagnosed with mixed connective tissue disease > with > > lupus symptoms. > > First, I do believe that with proper detoxifying, good nutrition > and > > support you can eventually get a negative ana and "recover". We > > have women on this site do that. The main thing is that they test > > your kidneys to make sure they are ok. > > Lupus can run the gamut from mild to very serious. Therefore, I > > would take seriously efforts to get your body very healthy. We > have > > alot of suggestions on this group about how to detox and to > support > > your immune system. I happen to belong to another support group > > called the roadback foundation. Their website is > www.roadback.org. > > This website is dedicated to using antibiotics ---certain kinds--> to > > put autoimmune illness in remission. Lupus is one of the > autoimmune > > diseases that people use this for. I went on the antibiotic > therapy > > when I was found to have mycoplasma which has been connected with > > autoimmune diseases. One of the mycoplasma I have is connected > > especially to lupus. Anyway, there really is alot of evidence > that > > pathogens set autoimmune illness into motion. So I would also > think > > about ways to kill pathogens and I like two products especially > and > > they are supposed to kill mycoplasma as well as other pathogens, > > candida and virus/bacteria. One is East Park Research's > D'lenolate > > (a potent form of olive leaf extract) and the other is oil of > > oregano in liquid form. There are many many things that you can > do > > to help your body get better that are without a doctor's > > prescription. These are certainly what I would try first. Nest > > I would try the antibiotic protocol. Certainly a last choice > would > > be the immunesuppressing drugs that the doctors like to prescribe > > such as prednisone, cortisone, methotrexate, etc. If your doctor > > hasn't done it, he definitely needs to do a urine test for protein > > in the urine. Like I said earlier, my research with lupus shows > > that the predictor of severity tends to be how much kidney > > involvement there is. Let us know how your doctor's visit goes. > > Hugs, Kathy> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > I had my implants taken out on January of this year. I'm 30 > years > > > old and had my saline implant since I was 18 years old. I been > > > feeling good most of the time since I had my implants taken > out. . > > I > > > had went to the doctor about two weeks ago because I been just > > > really over eatting. I would eat then 20 minute go by and I > would > > go > > > and eat some more. So anyways I had somw blood work done and > today > > > the nurse called me me telling me that I tested postive for > Lupus. > > > So I went to have more blood work done and I will go see my > doctor > > > in 2 weeks. The doctor ask me if my bone hurted. I said sometime > > in > > > the morning when I would wake up the whole body would be > hurting. > > Or > > > I would feel like there was a cold metal touching my bone. When > I > > > would feel like that I thought maybe it's my bed. Or maybe it's > > > because I cut the grass or moved my furniture around. Most of > the > > > time I'm active (there time where I couldn't get out of bed like > I > > > had no energy and I would tell my self what wrong with me but I > > had > > > to for my boys). I would get up at 4:45 am to go to the gym. > > Because > > > that the only time I have when I can go.I have three boys that > > keep > > > me busy. A while back I read some email where some of the the > > women > > > had lupus and were going th a rheumatologist.If anyone has this > > can > > > you email me and let me know what to expect or some advise. I'm > > > going to look up in internet. Thank You> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given > by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or > licensed health care professional before commencing any medical > treatment. > > > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians > mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own > decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a > better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, > Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > > > See our photos website! Enter "implants" for access at this link:> > http://.shutterfly.com/action/> > > >

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Thanks Rogene! I will try it.

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Re: Re: Hello Everyone- Sunny

I bet your hubby still isn't speaking to you!I haven't tried the capsules, but I found the liquiddoable when stirred into a glass of juice.Rogene--- "jdebolt@..." <jdebolt@...>wrote:> LOL LOL> I bribed my hubby into that last night and he said> the SAME thing....boy that stings!!! > Seriously, do you think you get the same effects> with pills that you would with the oil? Does anyone> know?> thanks.> ~

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You can get it at a health food store, or find it

online . . .

I'd start with three drops and gradually increase the

frequency and number as you know how you feel on them.

.. .

It's not like it would hurt you to take a large dose .

.. . but you might feel pretty bad - especially if you

have something that really needs treating.

Hugs,

Rogene