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I bought mine at the Vitamin Shoppe, seems like their prices are

comparable to what I've seen at the online discounted sites.

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> Where does everyone buy their product? Online, or at a retailer

near you? Do you have to be careful of imitation?

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Where does everyone buy their product? Online, or at a retailer near you? Do you have to be careful of imitation?

~ married to DH Mark, and sharing the lives of nine busy children. <3 <3

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www.appleadayandbeyond.com give an extra 10% discount

IF you order by phone, fax or email. BUT NOT ONLINE!

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thanks Sis!

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I bought mine at the Vitamin Shoppe, seems like their prices are comparable to what I've seen at the online discounted sites.Sis>> Where does everyone buy their product? Online, or at a retailer near you? Do you have to be careful of imitation? > > ~ married to DH Mark, and sharing the lives of nine busy children. <3 <3>

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Hi ,

Yes, the melatonin is only at night. Start w/ 1 mg and see how you

feel before going to a higher dosage. I'm not sure about the

phosphatidyl serine. Let me know how you do with it because I need

to decrease my cortisol too.

I know it's hard wondering if all this is ok to take...I wondered

the same but based on months of reading everything I can, the ones

who are recovering are the women who are taking these supplements

instead of the toxic prescriptions. I wish I could say that the

doctors are the experts but in this case it seems as if the women

who have healed themselves know more.

I take Primal Defense first thing in the morning and first thing in

the evening. It's something we will take indefinitely because if

you stop taking it, the bad bacteria can rise up again. I am up to

4 tabs each time...start out slowly and work your way up to a dosage

you feel comfortable with. You can read Patient, Heal Thyself by

Jordan Rubin to find out more about curing candida.

Primal Defense contains acidophilus so you don't need to buy both.

Seriously though, you may want to consider digestive enzymes as

well. They have helped me with the bloating tremendously. - PH

> > >

> > > Dear PH,

> > >

> > > Keep me posted on your progress. Here in Korea

> > I don't have

> > many choices for a Doctor...though I am blessed to

> > be able to visit

> > the Army Base Hospital as needed. I can't seem to

> > kick the ears,

> > eyes, headache, sore glands cycle that is going on

> > right now, so

> > I'll probably visit with a doctor there to rule out

> > anything

> > obviously wrong (isn't that what we always do?) and

> > then try to

> > increase my detox efforts.

> > >

> > > Hugs and Prayers!

> > > Deb

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

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> > an Edge to see

> > what's on, when.

> > >

> >

> >

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Primal Defense is a probiotic that coats the stomach/intestines with

beneficial bacteria. I think it may contain some enzymes as well

but because we have so much bloating due to candida overgrowth, we

need additional enzymes at every meal.

I use Digest Gold by Enzymedica and have had much success. My

doctor said to make sure whatever enzyme formula you choose contains

amylase, lipase and protease. Digest Gold contains all 3 plus many

more. She also said the more protease, the better, because it's an

enzyme that breaks down proteins and bad bacteria.

Patty recommends Q-zyme by Garden of Life or Wobenzyme which also

might work for you. You just have to try your own thing but be

diligent because it doesn't happen overnight. If you don't have a

health store nearby you can go to www.vitacost.com

Also, you will defnitely need to take something to kill the

candida/yeast/fungus. Garden of Life Fungal Defense and capryllic

acid worked for me. In addition and probably hardest of all, NO

SUGAR!! - PH

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> Thanks for the information...I thought Primal Defense

> was digestive enzymes ???? Do I need to buy that too ?

> Is that what its called ? I bloat awful.

> --- perfecthealth68 <perfecthealth68@...> wrote:

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> > Hi ,

> > Yes, the melatonin is only at night. Start w/ 1 mg

> > and see how you

> > feel before going to a higher dosage. I'm not sure

> > about the

> > phosphatidyl serine. Let me know how you do with it

> > because I need

> > to decrease my cortisol too.

> >

> > I know it's hard wondering if all this is ok to

> > take...I wondered

> > the same but based on months of reading everything I

> > can, the ones

> > who are recovering are the women who are taking

> > these supplements

> > instead of the toxic prescriptions. I wish I could

> > say that the

> > doctors are the experts but in this case it seems as

> > if the women

> > who have healed themselves know more.

> >

> > I take Primal Defense first thing in the morning and

> > first thing in

> > the evening. It's something we will take

> > indefinitely because if

> > you stop taking it, the bad bacteria can rise up

> > again. I am up to

> > 4 tabs each time...start out slowly and work your

> > way up to a dosage

> > you feel comfortable with. You can read Patient,

> > Heal Thyself by

> > Jordan Rubin to find out more about curing candida.

> >

> >

> > Primal Defense contains acidophilus so you don't

> > need to buy both.

> > Seriously though, you may want to consider digestive

> > enzymes as

> > well. They have helped me with the bloating

> > tremendously. - PH

> >

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear PH,

> > > > >

> > > > > Keep me posted on your progress. Here in

> > Korea

> > > > I don't have

> > > > many choices for a Doctor...though I am blessed

> > to

> > > > be able to visit

> > > > the Army Base Hospital as needed. I can't seem

> > to

> > > > kick the ears,

> > > > eyes, headache, sore glands cycle that is going

> > on

> > > > right now, so

> > > > I'll probably visit with a doctor there to rule

> > out

> > > > anything

> > > > obviously wrong (isn't that what we always do?)

> > and

> > > > then try to

> > > > increase my detox efforts.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hugs and Prayers!

> > > > > Deb

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ---------------------------------

> > > > > Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy

> > with

> > > > an Edge to see

> > > > what's on, when.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Yes, you will be taking lots of supplements, some for a couple weeks

and some for longer. The enzymes (Digest Gold, Q-zyme or Wobenzyme)

and Primal Defense will be taken indefinitely, possibly for many

years to come. And yes, you will space some out but take some

together.

This is what I did/do:

1. Fungal Defense - I used one bottle for about 2 weeks. I don't

remember if I took it with a meal or not....read Patient, Heal

Thyself by Jordan Rubin or follow the directions on the bottle.

2. Once I was finished w/ the FD, I started 3600 mg of capryllic

acid daily. I took 1800 at breakfast and 1800 at dinner. I did

this for 2 weeks.

3. Grapefruit seed extract and oregano extract can also be used

instead of the capryllic or following it but I haven't tried them.

4. After stopping the capryllic acid I started eating fresh garlic

once a day and continue to do so. I'm only taking 1 clove/day at

this point but Patty was taking up to 12/day.

While doing all the above, I also took and continue to take Primal

Defense and Digest Gold. Primal Defense I take in the morning and

at bedtime on an empty stomach. Digest Gold I take at the first

bite of each meal. It's helpful to make a chart of all you're

taking and the times until you get into the routine.

An excellent book is Digestive Wellness by Lipski.

http://www.amazon.com/Digestive-Wellness--

Lipski/dp/0071441964/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-2399642-0066301?

ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1185715302 & sr=8-1

It answers all your questions about every stomach ailment out there

and is above and beyond what any gastroenterologist could ever tell

me. None of my doctors believe in enzymes or probiotics. They just

wanted to give me antibiotics which made my bloating worse. This is

the only thing that's worked.

Good luck, and remember, you have to stay away from all processed

food and sugar in order for this to work. - PH

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Deb,

> > > > > > My blurry vision and headaches have been

> > less

> > > > > > frequent this

> > > > > > week...thanks for asking. I chalk it up to

> > one

> > > > or

> > > > > > all of the three

> > > > > > new things I did this week.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > First of all I had cranial sachral therapy

> > which

> > > > > > helped immensely

> > > > > > with the pressure in my ears, right side of

> > the

> > > > neck

> > > > > > and head. I

> > > > > > felt almost like myself for the first time

> > in 7

> > > > > > months.

> > > > > > Unfortunately it only lasted a day so I've

> > > > decided

> > > > > > it's something I

> > > > > > need to do twice weekly.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I also had a lymph massage with a cupping

> > > > machine

> > > > > > followed by an

> > > > > > ionic foot bath. Will also do this twice

> > weekly

> > > > > > even though these

> > > > > > therapies are adding up!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It sounds like the resources aren't what

> > you'd

> > > > like

> > > > > > in Korea. If at

> > > > > > all possible, try to find a massage

> > therapist

> > > > > > because I think we

> > > > > > need to get the lymph flowing so we can

> > detox

> > > > more

> > > > > > easily. The

> > > > > > massage therapist I went to has had 4 sets

> > of

> > > > > > implants and was so

> > > > > > sick she almost died. She didn't have the

> > > > cupping

> > > > > > machine when she

> > > > > > was ill but massaged her lymph system daily

> > > > herself

> > > > > > to complete

> > > > > > wellness. So, if there's not someone

> > available

> > > > over

> > > > > > there to do it,

> > > > > > you can rely on yourself.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Finally, I went to a hypnotherapist because

> > my

> > > > fears

> > > > > > about my vision

> > > > > > and overall health have been consuming me.

> > I

> > > > feel

> > > > > > so alone despite

> > > > > > the fact that I have the most supportive

> > husband

> > > > > > ever as well as

> > > > > > this forum.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I just get so depressed because my vision is

> > > > " off " .

> > > > > > It hasn't been

> > > > > > blurry lately but it's as if my eyes aren't

> > in

> > > > sync

> > > > > > and it's

> > > > > > difficult to read a lot of print. Anyway,

> > the

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