Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 http://news./s/nm/20060413/hl_nm/implants_suicide_dc_1 NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - A new study adds to evidence that while women with breast implants are not at greater risk of breast cancer, they do seem to have an elevated rate of suicide. The reason for the suicide risk is unclear, but several studies have now come to similar conclusions. Some researchers believe the link is explained by higher rates of depression, anxiety and low self-esteem among women who undergo breast augmentation. Supporting that theory, one recent study found that women who received cosmetic breast implants were more likely to have a history of psychiatric hospitalization than those who underwent other types of plastic surgery. Based on such findings, some experts have recommended that women be screened for past and present psychiatric disorders before they receive breast implants. The current study, published in the journal Epidemiology, included 12,144 U.S. women who'd received breast implants between 1960 and 1988, and 3,614 women who'd undergone other types of cosmetic surgery during the same period. Researchers compared the two groups' rates of death from various causes over an average of 20 years; the rates in each group were also compared with statistics for women in the general population. Overall, the study found, women who'd received implants had a lower risk of death from most causes when compared with the general population. That included a lower risk of dying from breast cancer, a disease that has been a concern among breast implant recipients. Though research has failed to show that the implants contribute to breast cancer development, there is evidence that implants can interfere with mammography screening for breast tumors. In this study, however, women with implants were only half as likely as those in the general population to die of breast cancer, according to the researchers, led by Dr. Louise A. Brinton of the National Cancer Institute in Bethesda, land. Women who'd received implants did, however, have a higher-than-average risk of suicide. And they were more than twice as likely as women who'd had other cosmetic procedures to take their own lives. Between the two surgery groups, implant recipients were also more likely to die of respiratory cancer or brain cancer. However, few women in either group died of a brain tumor, and it's not clear that there's a cause-and-effect relationship between breast implants and either form of cancer, according to Brinton and her colleagues. The elevated suicide risk, however, " remains of concern, " the researchers conclude. In an unexpected finding, they note, women with implants were also more likely than those who'd had other cosmetic procedures to die in a car accident. Coupled with the suicide findings, Brinton and her colleagues write, this suggests that some of those traffic deaths were not accidental. SOURCE: Epidemiology, March 2006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Thanks Rogene ... here are some comments several of us made when the British Medical Journal reported another study with similar findings and conclusions: http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/eletters/326/7388/527 This was an earlier discussion on suicide and breast implants in the British Medical Journal ... Rapid Responses to: PAPERS: V C M Koot, P H M Peeters, F Granath, D E Grobbee, and O Nyren Total and cause specific mortality among Swedish women with cosmetic breast implants: prospective study BMJ 2003; 326: 527-528 [Full text] Rapid Responses: Submit a response to this article Rapid Responses published: To soothe the savage breast P. Bruning (7 March 2003) Cause for suicide? Rogene Schorer (7 March 2003) Implants, Suicide, and Cancer M. Zuckerman (9 March 2003) Breast Implants: hype and realities. Kamal Kumar Mahawar (9 March 2003) Pyschopathic or normal response to illness? Patty Faussett (10 March 2003) Response to implants and suicide study Ruby Rahn, Parkville, MO 64152, USA (11 March 2003) One womans 15 years experience with silicone breast implants L Reynolds (11 March 2003) Cosmetic breast implants Carolyn R Wolf (13 March 2003) Breast Implants: Promoting Good Mental Health Kathleen VF Nye (13 March 2003) Authors miss most important clue Ilena Rosenthal (14 March 2003) Re: Breast Implants: hype and realities. Carolyn R. Wolf (14 March 2003) Body Dysmorphic Disorder? Jordan Klesmer (25 March 2003) --------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- To soothe the savage breast 7 March 2003 P. Bruning, author, breast cancer survivor, patient advocate 250 Cabrini Blvd. , NY, NY 10003 Send response to journal: Re: To soothe the savage breast I can't help but wonder if the excess suicide in women with breast implants might be related not to some pre-implant psychological condition but to a condition induced by failed implants. I have met many women with terrible results due to local complications, who require multiple follow up corrective surgeries which are often not successful. Systemic reactions are still being debated, but there is irrefuatble evidence that serious local complications occur frequently and as a result, women may be worse off than before the cosmetic surgery. Perhaps it is the realization that they will need to spend the rest of their lives living with scarred, misshapen breasts, and perhaps local pain as well that makes suicide an option. Competing interests: Author of " Breast Implants: Everything You Need to Know, " Hunter House Publishing Co., 2003 Cause for suicide? 7 March 2003 Rogene Schorer, no appointment - speaking an implant woman U.S. A. 71909 Send response to journal: Re: Cause for suicide? In my opinion, one reason so many implant women commit suicide is the general denial, an inability to treat our illnesses, on the part of the medical profession. Our symptoms are so strange and diverse they are extremely hard to diagnose in the brief period doctors have to spend with a patient. This disregard for implant women extends from the medical profession to the media and government agencies. As a result the families of implant women do not understand the gravity of our situation and often lose patience. Accompanying the lose of health is the loss of career, health insurance, savings, home, self-esteem, and often family. . . All this for something touted by the plastic surgery industry as a device to improved self-esteem (at their gain and our loss). The loss of family and community support is the most devastating of all . . . suicide becomes a poor, but attractive, solution. Competing interests: None declared Implants, Suicide, and Cancer 9 March 2003 M. Zuckerman, President National Center for Policy Research for Women & Families, 1901 Pennsylvania Ave, NW, Washington, DC Send response to journal: Re: Implants, Suicide, and Cancer The findings provide an interesting comparison and are for the most part consistent with a study by the National Cancer Institute in the U.S. conducted by Dr. Louise Brinton et al. However, the Brinton et al study found an increase in suicides and some cancers compared to other plastic surgery patients. If women who undergo plastic surgery have more psychological problems than the general population, that would not explain the difference between suicide rates of breast augmentation patients compared to other women who underwent liposuction, rhinoplasty, and other plastic surgery at a similar age. The Brinton results suggest that the increased vulnerability of plastic surgery patients is not the only explanation for the increased risk of suicide. Compared to most other plastic surgery patients, implant patients suffer from complications that tend to increase over time. Implant manufacturers report that many implant patients need additional surgery within the first three years, and that ruptures and other complications continue to increase over time. Our Center receives letters every week from women whose implants are broken and who are unable to afford to have them removed. Many of these women are quite desperate, especially in cases where silicone is migrating to other organs. Other women describe deformities and pain caused by their implants. Although Swedish women apparently have better access to medical care if complications arise, some of these complications are extremely difficult to fix. It is certainly possible that such problems may cause an increase in suicides. It is also important to note that the Brinton study found that augmentation patients were three times as likely to die from lung cancer and other respiratory diseases compared to other plastic surgery patients, even though augmentation patients were no more likely to smoke than other plastic surgery patients. Although the augmentation patients who died of lung cancer were all smokers, augmentation patients who smoked were more likely to die than other plastic surgery patients who smoked. Since silica exposure is linked to lung cancer, it is possible that leakage from silicone implants increases the risk of lung cancer among smokers by irritating or damaging the lungs. It is unfortunate that the Koot et al study apparently did not statistically control for smoking, because it is possible that they too would have found an increased risk of lung cancer linked to breast implants, even among smokers. A flaw of the Koot et al study is that it included women who had breast implants for less than one year. This certainly weakens the power of the statistical analysis, since one would not expect implants to cause mortality in such a short time. In contrast, the Brinton et al study included women who had breast implants for at least 8 years. Even that is not ideal; it would be more appropriate for a study of implants and cancer to only include women who had breast implants for at least 10-15 years. Zuckerman, Ph.D. President National Center for Policy Research (CPR) for Women & Families 1901 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Suite 901 Washington, DC 20006 202 223-4000 www.center4policy.org Competing interests: None declared Breast Implants: hype and realities. 9 March 2003 Kamal Kumar Mahawar, Senior House Officer Caithness General Hospital, Wick KW1 5NS Send response to journal: Re: Breast Implants: hype and realities. Dear Sir/Madam, I think it has something to do with all the hype surrounding breast implants. Many of these women are suffering from " poor self image " and are easily attracted by the media created hype. They start thinking that it is the end of all their problems, which however is not true. Not unexpectedly, implants fall short of their expectactions. We know that implants are not a solution to this problem. More effort should be concentrated on helping them improve their self image and not in reinforcing the myth. They should be actively discouraged from choosing this option and must instead be taught to respect their " body " . Competing interests: None declared Pyschopathic or normal response to illness? 10 March 2003 Patty Faussett, Management 89052 Send response to journal: Re: Pyschopathic or normal response to illness? I hope this study will help to confirm the fact that implants carry more serious risks than now thought. However, this comment really gets to me. " Given the well documented link between psychiatric disorders and a desire for cosmetic surgery, the increased risk for death from suicide may reflect a greater prevalence of psychopathology rather than a causal association between implant surgery and suicide.3 " I have seen this allusion several times in regards to the women who have committed suicide after getting implants. Of course, we may not know the real reasons the women have killed themselves, but I can tell you that almost every single one of the women I have spoken to or communicated with that was sick has thought of suicide at one time or another. I think that most women don't carry out the actual act of killing, and so the numbers of suicidal women are way higher than these studies show. I speak from personal experience, as I was often suicidal, or had thoughts of wanting to die during my illness. Since I no longer feel that way, I take exception to the idea that I am psychopathic to begin with. That is simply not the case. I am a normal, average human being. The plain and simple truth is that the illness we suffer from, when our immune systems are destroyed and we cannot even function, is what causes us to have suicidal thoughts. We no longer feel the desire to struggle through each day. We no longer have motivation to live. We feel no hope or way out. We want our suffering to end. We don't see an end in sight, when doctors keep telling us that our illness is in our heads when we know darn well that there is something wrong but no one can tell us what or why or how to get better. I have had discussions with other women that confirms this tendency to suicidal thought, and I am astounded at how many have said they wanted to commit suicide because of their illness, but have not done so because of husbands, children or parents. This idea that we are psychopaths already and that is why there are more suicides is just plain wrong! It is the illness that makes us want to die, not a mental dysfunction that was already in place. How can we get that idea across? How can we make others understand just how devastating this illness is to us when all the other tests come out normal? How can this suicidal tendency from breast implants be quantified? This is one piece of the puzzle that needs answering, so professionals can understand just how devastating breast implants are for those that become ill, because all we ever hear is how much of a confidence builder breast implants are--and THAT IS TRUE UNTIL WE GET SICK. I had much more confidence in myself after I got breast implants. I was happier than I had ever been in my life. I was not a psychopath! But my illness at its worst took away my desire to live, and I felt like a social paraiah. I remember those dark days well, though I would rather forget. Thankfully, I am doing so well today that I am almost back to normal. I do have Hashimoto's, thanks to implants. I will have to take thyroid meds for the rest of my life, and go back regularly for blood work to tweek my dosages. It isn't fun. But I think I walked away from my breast implant nightmare a lucky lady, relatively speaking. It was only by the grace of God that I didn't commit suicide and become one of those numbers. Competing interests: Founder of Saline Support breast implant support group on Response to implants and suicide study 11 March 2003 Ruby Rahn, self employed 5740 NW Union Chapel Rd., Parkville, MO 64152, USA Send response to journal: Re: Response to implants and suicide study To the Editor of the British Medical Journal: I am responding to the recent study, Total and cause specific mortality among Swedish women with cosmetic breast implants: prospective study, published in the March 8, 2003 edition of the in the British Medical Journal. http://bmj.com/cgi/content/full/326/7388/527?eaf Finding fault with those who have been harmed is a strategy used to discredit the injured. It is the same strategy used by trial lawyers to discredit women injured by other harmful acts like rape. If this study is to be taken seriously, then one has to believe that millions of women from around the world, who have had implants, must all have low self-esteem or be mentality unstable. We live in a world society where " image is everything " and that message is constantly being fed to us in news reports, on billboards, perfume and clothing ads in every magazine and newspaper. Doctors and surgeons, in their direct advertising to the public, are also selling and promoting their latest and greatest technology, which they assert helps you feel better about being you. We see extreme makeovers on television where the recipients of plastic surgery exclaim how happy they are with the results and proudly tell the world what a boost to their confidence the surgery gave them. Everyone I know desires, to some degree, to improve their appearance, does that make everyone mentally unstable? The results of this study appear to me as a maneuver to deflect the attention from some of the real problems of breast implants and other medical devices. A few of the problems I have with the study are as follows: 1.The study only included women who had breast implants for less than one year. This is a major statistical flaw that impairs and prevents factual analysis and accurate results. Suicide from having breast implants does not happen within one year but over a period of years. 2.The fact that women have to endure multiple surgeries to correct common complications as a result of ruptures and contractures and that these complications increase over time would should be included in a study on suicide and wasn't here. 3.Elastomers particles from the shell and silicone gel leaking from ruptured implants migrate to distant organs include the lungs and liver. A foreign body reaction to these materials and other complications like cancer were also overlooked. Perhaps the increase incident of suicide, once women have received implants, was from exposure to platinum or other chemicals used in the manufacturer and leach out from aging and degrading implants over a period of time? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd =Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=12589499 & dopt=Abstract If the women were mentally unstable before receiving implants, then what does that say about the judgment and ethical conduct of the doctors who put these products into unstable women? Couldn't that be viewed as exploiting vulnerable women for profit? I cannot help but see this study for what it is, just another tactic in the ongoing discrimination to trivialize, discredit and demean women injured by breast implants. Sincerely, Ruby Rahn 5740 NW Union Chapel Road, Parkville, MO 64152 rubyrm@... Competing interests: I was harmed by breast implants One womans 15 years experience with silicone breast implants 11 March 2003 L Reynolds, n/a disabled Send response to journal: Re: One womans 15 years experience with silicone breast implants I decided to get silcone breast implants in 1978 at the age of 29 because I was not happy with my small " B " size breasts. After receiving the implants, I was elated by the way I looked in my cloths and without cloths. Around 1984, I was experiencing a host of different health problems like, unexplained rashes, a constant low- grade fever, joint pain, hair loss and fatigue. I seen over 20 doctors in an 18 month time period, hoping one of them could find out what was happening to me. But none of them could. By 1990, my health problems continued to grow worse and included constant infections, muscle weakness,numbness and tingling in extremities, gastrointestinal problems, dry eyes and mouth, cold sensitivity, tender-points on my body,cognitive problems such as memory loss, inability to concentrate, and even clumsiness. My breasts were hard and painful.I was told I might have Lupus. I was relieved, I finally had a diagnoses of my symptoms. In 1993, I was unable to hold a job because of missing too much work for my health problems. It was like having the flu everyday. Both my breasts were hard and had mis-shapened, one was moving up toward my shoulder and had what felt like a bubble on the side near my armpit. In November 1993 I had the implants removed. Both implants were grossly ruptured as well as the scar capsules that surrounded the implants, spilling silicone into my chest cavity. My natural breast tissue had to be removed because silicone was inter-mingled throughout my breast tissues and planes. Because I wanted and got breast implants, I was left with no breasts at all and the deformity is simliar to having breast cancer.I did have a nipple reconstruction because silicone had to be scraped out from behind them, leaving them folded over and sunkin into my chest. My health has gradually returned to almost normal except now my lungs are turning fibrosis causing difficulty in breathing and a heavy feeling in my chest. I have never smoked cigarettes. I am 53 years old now and at a new place in my life, older and wise enough to know that breast size really doesn't matter. Having bigger breasts are not really important in life, good health and loving relationships are what really matters. I just wish I would have realized that when I was 29. Sincerely, Reynolds Competing interests: Personal experience of a woman that had silicone breast implants for 15 years. Cosmetic breast implants 13 March 2003 Carolyn R Wolf, Retired 22152 Send response to journal: Re: Cosmetic breast implants Perhaps these good doctors will take the word of those women who have had breast implants for more than 20 years; most of the studies done in the US have been bought and paid for by manufacturers and plastic surgeons -- those who profit monetarily from trumped up studies covering only those women who had the implants for less than 8 years..Had they included women who had the implants for 15 years or more, AND had they told the truth, the published story would be a totally different one. As one who has recently been diagnosed with " silicone induced multiple sclerosis " , and one who has had these symptoms for several years, and been told by doctors that everything is " okay " - and when I finally was allowed to have an MRI, was untruthfully told that there were some lesions on the brain, but a normal amount for someone my age (72 years -- 28 years with implants); another doctor (looking at the same film) has now told me there are more than 20 lesions, far more than a " normal amount " .Is this cause for depression?? Lets stop the cover up and lies! Those are the reasons there are so many suicides -- because doctors seem to be afraid to tell the truth; we are constantly being lied to -- or offered tranquilizers..Will making us tranquilized zombies solve the problem?? I think not - they only deepen the depression and cause more suicides. Competing interests: I am a silicone survivor Breast Implants: Promoting Good Mental Health 13 March 2003 Kathleen VF Nye, PSY. student Reading Area Community College Send response to journal: Re: Breast Implants: Promoting Good Mental Health I could not help but be interested in the article about suicide and breast implants. As a psychology student I am interested in all areas of clinical depression. The article associate breast implants and suicide, suggesting a connections. I agree on this point, but I think the suicides come after the disappointing results and repeated surgeries and the frustration of not being taken seriously when giving symptoms to the physicians. After and not before the implantation, does the depression set in. I also write as a silicone survivor, implanted in 1968 after a bilateral mastectomy(age 22). With 14 implants in 18 years behind me, I speak from experience. The depression came after the promise of " newer, better implants " and the " won't get hard " line. The high suicide rate does not surprise me. What does surprise me is that the medical community still thinks that stuffing sacks of silicone into women's chest is a procedure that will promote good mental health. Competing interests: None declared Authors miss most important clue 14 March 2003 Ilena Rosenthal, Director, Non Profit foundation San Diego, CA 92109 Send response to journal: Re: Authors miss most important clue This study's authors miss the most important clue to the reasons a disproportionately large number of women with breast implants choose suicide. Most breast implants fail over time, even though for decades they were sold as a " lifetime " device. With this extremely high rupture rate comes additional surgeries, infections, and frequently the ultimate loss of the implant along with breast tissue. Commonly, women suffer from the very painful fibromyalgia and other often undefined diseases. The denial of the medical profession as to their illnesses as well as families experiencing their once healthy and vibrant mother, wife, sister, or daughter now in chronic pain with no medical solution in sight, leaves the women feeling more isolated and desperate. She often then loses her job, her insurance, and the downward spiral continues. To ignore the enormous physical harm from ruptured implants and drawing the fuzzy psychological conclusions the authors have, makes me wonder about their open minded scientific approach to this growing medical tragedy. Ilena Rosenthal Director, Humantics Foundation for Women http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org FDA Rupture Studies http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/breastimplants/extracapstudy.html http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/breastimplants/studies/biinterview.html Competing interests: Author: Breast Implants: The Myths, The Facts, The Women Founder of Support group: Breast Implants: Recovery & Discovery Re: Breast Implants: hype and realities. 14 March 2003 Carolyn R. Wolf, Retired 22152 Send response to journal: Re: Re: Breast Implants: hype and realities. Perhaps one of the reasons for low self esteem might be a plastic surgeon inorming you (after double mastectomies!) that " you don't have to go through life looking like THIS " . Those of us with no problems with our self esteem started thinking something horrible was wrong with us; then to be assured, and reassured, that the implants were/are safe, and " no, you are not being used as a guinea pig. " Which is exactly what we were/are being used for. When I found one breast collapsed (both implants were ruptured, but only one scar tissue capsule had collapsed), three plastic surgeons tried to " sell " me on replacements with saline filled implants-- only they did not use the correct designation: silicone implants with saline filling, rather than with silicone gel filling!! This world needs a few doctors willing to emulate Raoul Westenberg (remember him from World War II?)-- to try to find some answers to this chemical poisoning that we have been subjected to..Worldwide, there are millions of us.. Competing interests: Silicone implant survivor Body Dysmorphic Disorder? 25 March 2003 Jordan Klesmer, Assistant Professor of Psychiatry, NYU School of Medicine North Shore University Hospital, 400 Community Drive, Manhasset, New York 11030 Send response to journal: Re: Body Dysmorphic Disorder? To Whom It May Concern, Koot et. al. recently reported an increased risk of suicide amongst patients who received cosmetic breast implants (1). The Somatoform Disorder known as Body Dysmorphic Disorder involves a preoccupation with a defect in appearance and the defect is either imagined, or, if a slight physical defect is present, the patient's concern is markedly excessive with subsequent impairment of social or occupational functioning (2). The patient's distress may lead to suicidal ideation, suicide attempts, and completed suicide (2,3). It has been estimated that between 6% to 15% of cosmetic surgery and dermatology patients suffer from this disorder (2). Consequently, it behooves cosmetic surgeons to seek psychiatric consultations preoperatively for the purpose of ruling out Body Dysmorphic Disorder and have it treated if present. Perhaps only then can the elevated suicide rate associated with breast implants be diminished. References 1.Koot VCM, s PHM, Granath F, Grobbee DE, and Nyren O. Total and cause specific mortality among Swedish women with cosmetic breast implants: prospective study. British Medical Journal. 326:527- 528. 2.Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth edition, Text Revision. American Psychiatric Association. American Psychiatric Press. Washington, D.C. 2000 3. KA, McElroy SL, Keck PE, Pope HG, Hudson JI. Body Dysmorphic Disorder: 30 Cases of Imagined Ugliness. American Journal of Psychiatry. 150:2 302-308. Competing interests: None declared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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