Re: Saline Class Action Law Suit

[Guest guest]

Donna,

I just read your letter to the doctor - actually I've had more

symptoms than I put in my post to you - and they are almost all the

same as yours. Sometimes my fingers would look blue and my veins

would be throbbing, too.

Sis

>

> Sis,

>

> We sound like twins I got my Saline BA on feb 2005 soon after I

suspected

> something was wrong. I begged PS and Dr's to help me. They all

said they are

> safe... I came to terms on my own that I need them out. I found

the support

> sites... I am going to Dr. Kolb for explant and en-bloc on May 22

to get

> removed.. I just hope I live til then, I am so sick. Did you

get your implants

> tested at all if so what was in them or did you just reject?????

I would think

> that you could sue your PS for not tellin you that your body

rejected??? what a

> jerk these ps are like money money and that is all at least mine

was, how was

> your PS.

>

> Donna

>

> PS I have all the same symptoms you do besides the high blood

pressure. I

> have irretable bowel syndrome. here is a letter I faxed to my dr

and he said

> no connection saline dont make you sick.

>

> May 1, 2006

>

> Berger

>

> RE: Donna Sparks

>

>

> Dear Dr. Berger:

>

> Here are the symptoms that I either have or have had since my

Breast

> Augmentation on February 22, 2005. I either have the symptoms now

or have had in the

> past. The symptoms listed do not mean constant a lot of them come

and go

> like mysterious times, for no apparent reason.

>

> Fatigue Nerve Damage

> Stiff Right neck, arm and hand. Rash on face/chest

> Left ankle swollen/ rash Small Blood Vessels

> Muscle Shakes/tremors Irritable Bowel Syndrome Lumps in Left

Breast

> Recurrent Flu likes Illnesses Memory Loss Ringing in Ears

> Saying wrong words/slurring Decreased Libido

> Low Back Pain Right Breast Pain Anxiety Mood Swings

> Depression Sinus Infections

> Sleep Disturbances/ Waking up feeling numb/tingling

> Headaches

> Blurred Vision

> Loss of Balance

> Numbness/Tingling / Hands / Feet

> Light Headed ness/ Dizziness

> Right Side Arm/Fingers/Face movement

> Joint and Muscle Aches and Pains

> Weight

Gain

yeast

> infection

> Low Grade Fever

> Muscle Tremors

> Hair Loss

> Dry Eyes/Mouth

> Menstrual period every two weeks

> Tongue feels thick on right side

>

> I have listed my symptoms so you could observe. I wondered if

this could

> be related to my breast implants? Has anyone else ever had this

happen? I

> want to know if related in anyway? Please give me a call

regarding this matter.

>

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Donna Sparks

> (513) 616-6875

>

[Guest guest]

Donna,

There is a lot you can do to feel better even before

getting your implants out . . . and, even if you don't

feel a lot better, you should begin feeling better

following your explant.

First and foremost - get your diet in order. NO sugar!

.. . . no refined grains (whole grains are OK) . . .

Organic food is best . . . The Maker's Diet is a

wonderful guide! It may be hard to make an abrupt

switch - especially when you're feeling so bad, but

it's doable if you'll take one step at a time! . . .

Check out the detox programs . . . Soaking in an Epsom

salt bath on a regular basis will help draw the toxins

from your tissues. . . . Oil of Oregano will help kill

off toxins . . . So will raw, crushed, fresh garlic! .

.. . massages are excellent . . . If you can get your

SO motivated to do the massages, you're blessed! . . .

gentle exercise . . . drink 1/2 ounce of

non-chlorinated water per pound of body weight daily.

.. .

Remove as many chemicals as possible from your

environment. . . perfumes, cleaning products,

chlorine, etc. . . Some of the ladies have excellent

tips for alternative products . . . some are really

cheap too!

Try to get a good nights sleep every night! . . .

Taking a calcium/magnesium supplement before bedtime

will help. I like Sleepy Time tea. . . I've started

sleeping with a night mask so I don't wake up at first

light since I'm, by nature, a night owl.

Almost all the women we've seen have a systemic

yeast/fungal problem. . . This alone can cause all

sorts of problems. I'd recommend Garden of Life's

Fungal Defense (one bottle) followed by Primal Defense

indefinitely. . . You start both with one capsule, and

increase by one capsule a day until you're taking

eight capsules (four morning and four night).

There are sooooooo many things you can do to start

healing . . . no need to wait until the 22nd. . . Dr.

Kolb has a protocol that has helped many women too!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

--- BSBanshee1@... wrote:

> Omg having 30 neices and nephews that breaks my

> heart to hear of these

> children suffering due to breast implants. That too

> is like a no brainer for them

> PS and they tell women safe so they will still get

> BA and they get there

> money. Well you had them in a long time that is

> amazing. I am glad you are here

> to help me I appreciate you so much, you have no

> idea. I am scared and mad

> right now all I can do is focus on the issue of

> getting these toxic bags out of

> my chest. I hate them they make me so sick. I bet

> I will have fungi in mine I

> am curious to see. I know I am not crazy like the

> Dr s tell me I am a very

> stable person. I am trying to keep up hope that I

> will not be to badly damaged

> if I go next month. I don't care if in the middle

> of summer I will not be

> able to stand another minute with these in me.

> Thanks for everything you are a

> miracle in itself.

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

Boy can I say 'amen' to that, Rogene. Donna, the fungal and primal defense are

great!

>

> > Omg having 30 neices and nephews that breaks my

> > heart to hear of these

> > children suffering due to breast implants. That too

> > is like a no brainer for them

> > PS and they tell women safe so they will still get

> > BA and they get there

> > money. Well you had them in a long time that is

> > amazing. I am glad you are here

> > to help me I appreciate you so much, you have no

> > idea. I am scared and mad

> > right now all I can do is focus on the issue of

> > getting these toxic bags out of

> > my chest. I hate them they make me so sick. I bet

> > I will have fungi in mine I

> > am curious to see. I know I am not crazy like the

> > Dr s tell me I am a very

> > stable person. I am trying to keep up hope that I

> > will not be to badly damaged

> > if I go next month. I don't care if in the middle

> > of summer I will not be

> > able to stand another minute with these in me.

> > Thanks for everything you are a

> > miracle in itself.

> >

> > Donna

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I am wondering why there are so many sick girls with the same

> symptoms and there is no law suit for Saline Implants. I would

> love to hear from all the girls who have had or have Saline

> Implants. If you had removed and tested, what was found in those

> test? If you can personally prove Saline Implants made you sick.

> How long you had the Saline Implants? I am going to start really

> looking into this further. I have felt sick ever since getting

> my Saline Implants one year and three months ago. I have 33

> symptoms in all, I am going to get them removed real soon and have

> them tested. If that is your situation I would love to hear from

> anyone and what they did about it. Can you go back and get refund?

> I think we should all come together on this situation and stop

> these PS from making us sick.

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

It's so important to present yourselves without any style that can be interpreted as histrionics because the medical community at large genuinely feels suspect that much of what we claim is invalid. So, in presenting ourselves, it's essential to understate rather than to overstate.

Please know that many of your symptoms listed below are also associated with menopause alone such as brain fog, depression, weight gain, insomnia, restless leg symdrome (this is caused by lower iron levels that are seen during menses and menopause), migraines and night sweats. Some or all of these will resolve post menopause.

So, the best way to sound credible is to be clear when stating our symptoms that we realize that some symptoms may be incidental and unrelated to our implants. This approach will get us taken much more seriously.

Sherry

Re: Saline Class Action Law Suit

>> I am wondering why there are so many sick girls with the same > symptoms and there is no law suit for Saline Implants. I would> love to hear from all the girls who have had or have Saline > Implants. If you had removed and tested, what was found in those> test? If you can personally prove Saline Implants made you sick.> How long you had the Saline Implants? I am going to start really> looking into this further. I have felt sick ever since getting> my Saline Implants one year and three months ago. I have 33 > symptoms in all, I am going to get them removed real soon and have> them tested. If that is your situation I would love to hear from> anyone and what they did about it. Can you go back and get refund?> I think we should all come together on this situation and stop> these PS from making us sick. > > Donna>

[Guest guest]

We are twins I have most of the same symptoms. OMG this is devastating, I went to my PS numerous times he told me nothing. I wish he would have told me early so I wasn't so sick.

Thanks for the support!!

Donna

[Guest guest]

I honestly was believing it was not my implants, after reading support sites I am convinced. I am going to get mine removed to see if I get well. If I get well then I will know, I have had my implants for a year and 3 months. I am hoping that I have not had them long enough to not get well after ex plant. I was listening to the doctors following there orders, and it only makes me sicker. I know exactly what is wrong with me, I know my body. I hope that by getting them removed I will be well again. I was so healthy before implants. I guess what I am saying is that I listened to DR's, ER's and PS opinions, I was failed. I can only pray that I get well after ex plant, hell with the rest.

Thanks,

Donna

[Guest guest]

Wow thank you so much, I am going to call Dr. Kolb's office today and make sure of what I can do before surgery. Thanks for your support.

Donna

[Guest guest]

Hi Iggy . ...

Good to hear from you! . . . we've missed you!

I hope you're doing much better now!

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

A friend, whose husband is a retired drug company vice

president, told me that the stated goal of the company

is to get everyone on drugs from birth to grave. . . .

Anyone who thinks these businesses have OUR interest

in mind needs to rethink things seriously! . . .

Everyone really has to take responsibility for their

own health . . . If something doesn't feel right,

sound right, check it out for yourself! . . . Don't

automatically believe anyone who stands to gain from

you.

IMHO, if you'll turn yourself over to God and trust

him to guide you, you'll find that you have an inner

voice that tells you what you need, when you need it.

It's truely amazing!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Donna,

I think you'll find that you'll start feeling better

(even though you are still sick) now that you

understand WHY you are sick! . . . Not knowing what's

going on and feeling like you're going downhill to

death is horrible! . . . Especially when doctors deny

your illness! Is it any wonder that implanted women

have several times the suicide rate than other plastic

surgery patients?

If you're like all the other women we see, you're

going to get your life back again! . . . There's much

to celebrate! . . . So don't stress over everything

now. Stress is a major contributor to illness.

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Donna, You have a great chance at getting better...the same chances as the rest of us, and so many of the women on this group go on to get better and live again! If you do your homework, go the extra mile to detox and take care of your body's need to purge toxins, you will see gradual improvements over time. It does take a long time to heal for some women (it took me 4 years), so be patient, but also be tenacious and don't be alarmed at the roller coaster ride you will be on. There are often good days followed by bad days and it goes on and on for awhile. But as you look back on your healing progress, you will see a slow, steady gain. You are taking all the right steps! Best wishes on your upcoming explant! PattyBSBanshee1@... wrote: I honestly was believing it was not my implants, after reading support sites I am convinced. I am going to get mine removed to see if I get well. If I get well then I will know, I have had my implants for a year and 3 months. I am hoping that I have not had them long enough to not get well after ex plant. I was listening to the doctors following there orders, and it only makes me sicker. I know exactly what is wrong with me, I know my body. I hope that by getting them removed I will be well again. I was so healthy before implants. I guess what I am saying is that I listened to DR's, ER's and PS opinions, I was failed. I can only pray that I get well after ex plant, hell with the rest. Thanks, Donna

goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone.

[Guest guest]

Hi Donna, I am so glad to hear that you have a BF who is able to help you out. It sounds like he has had some very tragic things to deal with himself, and I am so sorry for him. This will be a difficult period, but your future looks brighter knowing you can heal. His son's loss will be harder to deal with, but hopefully your renewed health will be a new beginning for both of you. I had alot of these symptoms, and they are all gone! So be hopeful! PattyBSBanshee1@... wrote: Thanks Rogene well even with Dr. Blais report I don't think I would be able to sue anyone. I don't have insurance. Unfortunately, my PS won't even admit this might be

wrong. I will copy a letter I sent to him and he laughed at me.. I also went to his office today to get my records and I ask his secretary of 5 years if she had the FDA pamphlet? She said What I dont know what that is? I was mad... I dont think they will admit anything so who would u sue? I don't have insurance. Lucky my BF has decent credit gonna finance my surgery and the expense for this. I feel so bad for him, he lost his son last year and has not recouped from that now me sick.. geezzzzzz its a long struggle for us both. Donna oh the here is the letter to my PS who laughs and said, I see no connection Saline is safe, not silicone in there saline donna. omg he is a jerk. May 1, 2006 Berger RE: Donna Sparks Dear Dr. Berger: Here are the symptoms that I either have or have had since my Breast Augmentation on February 22, 2005. I either have the symptoms now or have had in the past. The symptoms listed do not mean constant a lot of them come and go like mysterious times, for no apparent reason. Fatigue Nerve Damage Stiff Right neck, arm and hand. Rash on face/chest Left ankle swollen/ rash Small Blood Vessels Muscle Shakes/tremors Irritable Bowel Syndrome Lumps in Left Breast Recurrent Flu likes Illnesses Memory Loss Ringing in Ears Saying wrong words/slurring Decreased Libido Low Back

Pain Right Breast Pain Anxiety Mood Swings Depression Sinus Infections Sleep Disturbances/ Waking up feeling numb/tingling Headaches Blurred Vision yeast infections Loss of Balance Numbness/Tingling / Hands / Feet Light Headed ness/ Dizziness Right Side Arm/Fingers/Face movement Joint and Muscle Aches and Pains Weight Gain Low Grade Fever Muscle Tremors Hair Loss Dry Eyes/Mouth Menstrual period every two weeks Tongue feels thick on right side I have listed my symptoms so

you could observe. I wondered if this could be related to my breast implants? Has anyone else ever had this happen? I want to know if related in anyway? Please give me a call regarding this matter. Sincerely, Donna Sparks

New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.

[Guest guest]

Iggyangel ~

I love your user name........My sister lives in phoenix. That is awesome you are getting your RN. How much longer do you have? I am sorry to hear you are still having so many symptoms. How long did you have implants?

Blessings ~ DedeSee what's free at AOL.com.

[Guest guest]

--- HI Rogene!

thank you so much for your kind words! I will always have a home

here. this is where I learned why I was sick... so I consider all

you ladies and gals my angels from above.... If I would of listened

to MD.s and surgeons I would of been in an insane asylym.....

I seem to be managed w/meds. I tried for six months to a year to

try not to take pain meds, or anti convulsants, but to no avail, my

body will not function if I do not mask or control the symptoms.

this illness we all have is very sneaky, and as I am almost finished

w/my RN degree... the medical community is extremely ignorant to

it... Ive talked to professors and people w/all sorts of degrees...

it is not studied enough.... and the medical fied is not informed.

there are MD/s who believe but of course I am generalizing...

my hormones have seemed to calm down abit.. eating the same diet,, I

have slowly but surely dropped over 50 lbs. so my body is trying

to get to normal... but I still deal w/ soooo many things... some

days cant get up/some days cant move joints/some days depressed

extremely..... I still get photosensitivity, lupus like rashes, but

not as often. I still take alot of supplements, but cannot afford

them as a RN student. I miss you all. and now its summer so i can

gab again...

please give me some input and helpful hints.. here in PHX its so hot

that it drains my energy, still sensitive to temps hot/cold.

write back.

Im a fighter, and will not let this illness run me.

God bless

Iggyangel

In , Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Iggy . ...

>

> Good to hear from you! . . . we've missed you!

>

> I hope you're doing much better now!

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Oh Iggy . . . I just sent a message asking if it was you! I'm thrilled for you that you're back in school and will get your RN! . . . You are going to be able to educate a lot of medical professionals along the way! I heard on the news today that you're getting 120 degree temps! . .. That's too hot for anyone! I would be dragging Big Time! There are some things we've been discussing that I don't think we knew about when you were with us. . . "The Maker's Diet" is outstanding. One of our ladies is following the diet online - with support, recipes, etc. She reports that she's feeling much better and the food is delicious. Also, check out "Ionic Foot Baths" . . . I recommend the one on www.ionicoasis.com . . . Their website is very informative. But if you decide to get one,

order the same foot baths on ebay. They will accept an "Offer" of $225 for their best model. . . Dr. Kolb has been using them on some of her patients. Those who continued using them after they got home have progressed quite rapidly. . . I love mine! . .. But you should see the stuff that comes out. There are pictures of my first foot bath, along with pictures of others in the photo archives. We're leaving on vacation in the a.m. . . gotta get to bed! Love, Rogene iggy_angel <iggy_angel@...> wrote: --- HI Rogene!thank you so much for your kind words! I will always have a home here. this is where I learned why I was sick... so I consider all you ladies and gals my angels from above.... If I would of listened to MD.s and surgeons I would of been in an insane asylym.....I seem to be managed w/meds. I tried for six months to a year to try not to take pain meds, or anti convulsants, but to no avail, my body will not function if I do not mask or control the symptoms. this illness we all have is very sneaky, and as I am almost finished w/my RN degree... the medical community is extremely ignorant to it... Ive talked to professors and people w/all sorts of degrees... it is not studied enough.... and the medical fied is not informed. there are MD/s who believe but of course I am generalizing...my hormones

have seemed to calm down abit.. eating the same diet,, I have slowly but surely dropped over 50 lbs. so my body is trying to get to normal... but I still deal w/ soooo many things... some days cant get up/some days cant move joints/some days depressed extremely..... I still get photosensitivity, lupus like rashes, but not as often. I still take alot of supplements, but cannot afford them as a RN student. I miss you all. and now its summer so i can gab again...please give me some input and helpful hints.. here in PHX its so hot that it drains my energy, still sensitive to temps hot/cold.write back.Im a fighter, and will not let this illness run me.God blessIggyangelIn , Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:>> Hi Iggy . ...> > Good to hear from you! . . . we've missed you!>

> I hope you're doing much better now!> > Hugs,> > Rogene>

[Guest guest]

--- thank you soooo much for the info Rogene...

ya know I left for awhile, cuz I just did not want to deal w/this

illness and pretty much deny it, and keep busy..... but I realize

there is no denying it...... so I need support and knowledge to

better myself... ya know in the RN field, its all mostly about

drugs.... and they mask the symptoms for me to function... so Im

glad to be here cuz you all are so on top of the alternative/medical

stuff, etc... God bless, Iggy

In , Rogene <saxony01@...> wrote:

>

> Oh Iggy . . .

>

> I just sent a message asking if it was you!

>

> I'm thrilled for you that you're back in school and will get

your RN! . . . You are going to be able to educate a lot of medical

professionals along the way!

>

> I heard on the news today that you're getting 120 degree

temps! . .. That's too hot for anyone! I would be dragging Big Time!

>

> There are some things we've been discussing that I don't think

we knew about when you were with us. . . " The Maker's Diet " is

outstanding. One of our ladies is following the diet online - with

support, recipes, etc. She reports that she's feeling much better

and the food is delicious.

>

> Also, check out " Ionic Foot Baths " . . . I recommend the one on

www.ionicoasis.com . . . Their website is very informative. But if

you decide to get one, order the same foot baths on ebay. They will

accept an " Offer " of $225 for their best model. . . Dr. Kolb has

been using them on some of her patients. Those who continued using

them after they got home have progressed quite rapidly. . . I love

mine! . .. But you should see the stuff that comes out. There are

pictures of my first foot bath, along with pictures of others in the

photo archives.

>

> We're leaving on vacation in the a.m. . . gotta get to bed!

>

> Love,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

> iggy_angel <iggy_angel@...> wrote:

> --- HI Rogene!

> thank you so much for your kind words! I will always have a home

> here. this is where I learned why I was sick... so I consider all

> you ladies and gals my angels from above.... If I would of

listened

> to MD.s and surgeons I would of been in an insane asylym.....

> I seem to be managed w/meds. I tried for six months to a year to

> try not to take pain meds, or anti convulsants, but to no avail,

my

> body will not function if I do not mask or control the symptoms.

> this illness we all have is very sneaky, and as I am almost

finished

> w/my RN degree... the medical community is extremely ignorant to

> it... Ive talked to professors and people w/all sorts of

degrees...

> it is not studied enough.... and the medical fied is not informed.

> there are MD/s who believe but of course I am generalizing...

> my hormones have seemed to calm down abit.. eating the same diet,,

I

> have slowly but surely dropped over 50 lbs. so my body is trying

> to get to normal... but I still deal w/ soooo many things... some

> days cant get up/some days cant move joints/some days depressed

> extremely..... I still get photosensitivity, lupus like rashes,

but

> not as often. I still take alot of supplements, but cannot afford

> them as a RN student. I miss you all. and now its summer so i can

> gab again...

> please give me some input and helpful hints.. here in PHX its so

hot

> that it drains my energy, still sensitive to temps hot/cold.

> write back.

>

> Im a fighter, and will not let this illness run me.

> God bless

> Iggyangel

>

> In , Rogene S <saxony01@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Iggy . ...

> >

> > Good to hear from you! . . . we've missed you!

> >

> > I hope you're doing much better now!

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

>

[Guest guest]

---Hi DeDe,

thanks! MY MOM'S nickname when she was a kid was Iggy, named after

some old cartoon girl that looked like her; my Mom passed away from a

16 year battle w/Alzheimers disease, and after she passed I took her

nickname and added angel, as she is my angel.

I graduate May'08, yea!!!!I had my implants from 1999 to 2004; I may

suffer from alot of symptoms lately, but I am thankful, cuz they use to

be much much worse... SO I thank GOd for each day. I know the heat is

really hurting me out here, cuz I was much better before summer started

here in PHX. Im thankful I can work and go to school... but after the

school or work, I will sleep a good 12-14 hours to heal my body...

which I despise... but i have no choice.

thanks De de

God bless,

Iggy

In , DGRAHAMA@... wrote:

>

> Iggyangel ~

> I love your user name........My sister lives in phoenix. That is

awesome

> you are getting your RN. How much longer do you have? I am sorry

to hear

> you are still having so many symptoms. How long did you have

implants?

> Blessings ~ Dede

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Iggy,

It's nice to see you joining us again, though I am sorry to hear you

are still dealing with some issues that have been long-standing.

You should be able to get over these symptoms in time. We've found

that those who do not rely on prescription drugs seem to do the best.

Supplements are good, but if they are of poor quality they can do

more damage than good. I found that I had to curtail my large

variety of supplements in favor of a few superior quality ones.

Have you been tested for thyroid and adrenal issues? I think

hormonal imbalances are a huge factor in our illness. As I've done

research, it seems to me that one of the most neglected areas of

treatment for us lie within the area of adrenal fatigue. Thyroid

and adrenal function are very closely related.

A good website to check out is www.stopthethyroidmadness.com.

I know there is alot of reading, so if I can help put it in a

nutshell for you, I will. But with your RN degree, you will be able

to see what is happening in modern medicine and the problems these

girls on that site have addressed regarding test interpretations.

I'm currently treating for both thyroid and adrenal issues and it

has made a huge difference!

I hope we can help you get back to full speed soon!

Patty

> >

> > Hi Iggy . ...

> >

> > Good to hear from you! . . . we've missed you!

> >

> > I hope you're doing much better now!

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

>