Re: Re: Tired of pain - cytokines and green drinks - Patty

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Eggs all together ? Also maybe a dumb question but what are green drinks ?

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Patty: You're right about the Perfect Food type drinks. Dr. Kolb told me to stay away from green drinks or eggs because they could make my symptoms worse--it has something to do with cytokines. KateTricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: , It sure sounds like you have been doing all the right things. I am sorry you have had such a hard time with this pain. Some women seem to suffer from it more than others, and I don't know why. There is some concern over potent inflammatory cytokines....exactly how this all works together I am not sure, but I found that I could not tolerate the green foods supplements...things like Barleygreen, Perfect food, Bluegreen Algae, Chlorella, Spirulina...all those green

things, even juicing greens for an extended period of time brought back all my brain fog symptoms and made me feel terrible. I guess the concern is that all these healthy things can raise levels of cytokines, which is for us NOT a good thing since we are already having trouble with inflammation. Cytokines are good for fighting infection, but if their ultimate effect is inflammatory in nature (which is a normal bodily response in the right circumstances) those of us with chronic inflammatory conditions can do poorly instead of doing better. I certainly felt that I had some chronic inflammation going on in my body. If you are interested in suggestions, I can offer one or two. They are: 1) Stop doing all the stuff you are doing right now and just take a break from it. Watch your diet of course, but cut out the supplements that you feel you can,

focusing on those green ones. Let you body settle down for a little bit and see if some of those issues dissipate or lessen. It seemed odd to me to stop doing the juices because I knew they were good from all the information that I had read, but unfortunately, in my situation I did not want to raise cytokines, and that is probably what was going on. 2) Focus on the supplements that reduce inflammation in the body. These would be supplements such as Vitamin C in large doses, fish oils and the other omega 3 fatty acids. (like Evening Primrose Oil, flaxseed oil, borage oil, black currant oil.) Try to avoid Omega 6 fats (usually from saturated animal fats) and increase your omega 3 fats. Also, try to focus on Dr. Weil's anti-inflammation diet. I had wanted to post that before, and never did. I will try to post that today. I hope this helps! I think your dedication to doing the right things is very commendable! Perhaps tweaking your diet just a little to help fight inflammation will be helpful. I'd be interested to know if you do try it and find it to be helpful. I'll try to post that info on the anti-inflammation diet now. God bless! Patty Lamse <wannabe_proverbs31@...> wrote: Kathy, Let me know how your experiment works. I am currently following the Maker's diet rules. Using Super Seed, Perfect Food, Fungal Defense, Living Vitamins, I take garlic every day. I am also doing FIR sauna everyother day, on a Heavy Metal Cleanse by CleanseSMART. I walk everyday, somedays more than

others. I have been detoxing since 4 months prior to explant, now 7 months total. My doctor does laser acupuncture for symptom management. I am curious to know what you are trying. I have even done colon cleanses, yeast cleanses, full body cleanses, and ION cleanses (which hurt bad!) My kinesiologist hasn't seen it hurt anyone till me. I don't know what else I can do. Thanks for your suggestions! Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

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