Re: Sick from implants

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To Mgurney14,

You've got the same symptoms that I had, and that many of the others

have had, and I've been coming to this site for about 8 months and

have seen so many women coming here complaining of the same things.

They have also said that they've gone from doctor to doctor, and no

one can find anything wrong. You are in the right place, because we

will listen and we know that you've got the classic symptoms that

most of us had.

I had my implant for six months and had them explanted. I had your

symptoms within weeks of getting the implants, so it didn't confuse

me in the least bit - but there are others who don't have symptoms

for a couple of years, and that can be confusing. There are doctors

who believe implants make us ill, and they are very busy performing

explants. Many of us have gone to Dr. Feng in Ohio, Dr. Kolb in

Atlanta, and Dr. Melmed in Dallas (I think that's where he's

located), but there are other doctors that women on this site have

used and are happy with. When I was looking for a doctor to perform

the explant, it was very important to me that the doctor believe I

was sick because of the implants, so that's why I went with Dr. Feng

(Kolb and Melmed believe in implant illness as well, and Dr. Kolb

takes it a step further and treats you with medication and

supplements). There's a list of doctors on this site, and I wrote

down the names of those doctors and called the ones in my area, and

asked very specific questions - I asked if they performed the " en

bloc " procedure (removing the implants without draining them, while

also removing the capsules), I asked if they believed or were at

least open minded about implants causing illness, and I asked if

they used drains. I felt in my gut that Dr. Feng was the right

doctor for me (and she fit all of my criteria), even though I had to

drive 6 hours and stay in Ohio for 5 days after the surgery.

Sis

--- In , " mgurney14 " <mgurney14@...>

wrote:

>

> Hello, I am new to this site. I am 28 years old. I have had my

> implants for almost 3 years. In November I started feeling really

> run down and fatigued. I couldn't keep up with normal daily

> activities. I kept getting virus after virus and I got worse. My

> hands, feet, and face started swelling. Eventually my joints

> started aching. I started having pains that would run down my

arms

> and my arms would get weak and I couldn't lift them over my head

and

> my chest would pound. My doctors couldn't figure it out. Since

> February I have had 3 sinus infections and 3 yeast infections. I

> still have swelling in my hands and feet and my joint pain is

worse

> than ever. I also started having night sweats and I get them at

> least 3 times a week. The extreme fatigue hits me from time to

> time. A doctor at Internal Medicine has done extensive testing on

> me and they can't figure it out. A 28 year old shouldn't feel

this

> way!!!! I urged the doctor at Internal Medicine to give me a

> referral to a rheumatologist. He doesn't think I need it but gave

> me the referral anyways. I didn't even think about my implants

> until recently while surfing on the Internet and came across

> articles about saline implants and auto-immune diseases. I don't

> know if they are causing everything but the more and more that I

> read I am becoming more convinced. What should I do??? Also, for

> those of you that have had your breasts explanted- did your

warranty

> cover anything? I don't have money right now to pay for

> explantation because I am a student and my husband is getting

ready

> to retire from the military.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

You should have insurance through the military, but getting them to

remove your implants can be tricky. There is no help from the

implant manufacturer for this type of problems. Where are you?

Yes, your symptoms sound typical of someone whose body just has

rejected the implants. We hear this all the time. Some women can go

for 5-7 years before problems, some have problems immediately, some

have them after a year or two.

Lynda

At 05:56 AM 5/21/2006, you wrote:

>Hello, I am new to this site. I am 28 years old. I have had my

>implants for almost 3 years. In November I started feeling really

>run down and fatigued. I couldn't keep up with normal daily

>activities. I kept getting virus after virus and I got worse. My

>hands, feet, and face started swelling. Eventually my joints

>started aching. I started having pains that would run down my arms

>and my arms would get weak and I couldn't lift them over my head and

>my chest would pound. My doctors couldn't figure it out. Since

>February I have had 3 sinus infections and 3 yeast infections. I

>still have swelling in my hands and feet and my joint pain is worse

>than ever. I also started having night sweats and I get them at

>least 3 times a week. The extreme fatigue hits me from time to

>time. A doctor at Internal Medicine has done extensive testing on

>me and they can't figure it out. A 28 year old shouldn't feel this

>way!!!! I urged the doctor at Internal Medicine to give me a

>referral to a rheumatologist. He doesn't think I need it but gave

>me the referral anyways. I didn't even think about my implants

>until recently while surfing on the Internet and came across

>articles about saline implants and auto-immune diseases. I don't

>know if they are causing everything but the more and more that I

>read I am becoming more convinced. What should I do??? Also, for

>those of you that have had your breasts explanted- did your warranty

>cover anything? I don't have money right now to pay for

>explantation because I am a student and my husband is getting ready

>to retire from the military.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

>by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

>licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

>decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

>better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

>Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

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Welcome to !

You'll find you're not alone here . . . read back

through the messages as new women join us and you'll

find that what you're experiencing is very common

among implanted women.

The one thing that I would ask to be tested for is

toxic shock syndrome . . . Rhumey's, as a rule, aren't

much help. It's as if they have been given a script to

read to implant women! . . . There are a few who are

good and can help, but they're few and far between.

Keep in mind that any diagnoses you collect can follow

you the rest of your life and keep you from getting

insurance. Even though you're frustrated, be happy you

haven't been given any bad diagnoses yet.

Aside from toxic shock, my suggestion is to forget

about trying to get a diagnosis. . . Find a doctor to

remove your implants. Since your hubby is military,

you should be able to find help in the military

system. One of the criteria for removal is being

symptomatic - and you most definitely are.

The most important thing about removal is HOW they're

removed. . . The preferred way is " en bloc " . . . That

means removing the capsules that have grown around

your implants with the implant still inside. This is

to avoid spilling the contaminated contents of your

implants into your chest cavity. AND, the doctor

should install drains that will remain until there is

no significant drainage. This is to prevent fluids

from building up that can lead to pain, inflammation

and, possibly, further surgery. The least you should

ask for is a total capsulectomy. (removal of the

entire capsule)

If a doctor tells you that you'll be deformed or

depressed without your implants, run! . . . He's

speaking of his/her own skills! A doctor needn't agree

that implants cause problems - just willing to do the

surgery right! As long as they spout the party line

" Implants are safe " , they're protected!

Explant surgery is generally easier than implant

surgery. . . I was able to attend school full time

within five days of explant. I still felt kinda punk .

.. .but then, I'd been feeling awful for so long, that

felt pretty good!

Even though you're in the military, think of the

doctor as being employed by YOU! . . . You have every

right to demand the type of treatment you request,

especially when it's in your best interest. Most

plastic surgeons would prefer to make an incision

through the capsule, pop the implant out, and sew you

up. This leaves the capsule to contract and squeeze

contaminants out, keeping you sick. This material will

be mistaken for cancer and require additional

mammograms and MRI's over your lifetime - even if the

capsules didn't cause other problems.

I'd suggest reading " The Maker's Diet " . . . It

outlines a plan for eating right to regain your health

- and explains why it's so important.

In the meantime, some supplements that may help you

are Garden of Life's Fungal Defense (one bottle), and

Primal Defense (indefinitely) . . . These products

will kill off the fungal/yeast/Candida organisms that

are likely running rampant in your body. If you can

get your doctor to give you a prescription for

Diflucan or Nystatin, it can give you a jump start.

It's very important to completely eliminate sugar from

your diet . . . keep refined grains to a minimum.

These foods feed the negative organisms. The Maker's

Diet will explain all that to you.

We've recently been learning about Glutamine, Lipoic

Acid and N.A.C. and Natural Cellular Defense. NCD is

made from a mineral that is attracted to toxins. It

attaches to them and eliminates them from the body.

I've been taking this for several months and feel it's

very beneficial. brought Glutamine, lipoic acid

and N.A.C. to our attention . . . Since then, it was

recommended by another woman's naturopath.

takes NCD too. I've found that Glutamine and N.A.C. is

giving me more energy and that I feel much stronger

physically with it.

I found a new website yesterday that has good prices

over a very wide product line - including Garden of

Life products (you get an additional discount at

check-out) www.iherb.com

The good news is that you've figured out the problem!

.. . . and that you can get much, much better by having

your implants removed and embarking on a very healthy

lifestyle. It takes time and discipline, but it's well

worth the effort!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

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I have heard of Dr. Kolb before and Atlanta is about a 6 hr drive

from where I am. I am so overwhelmed because I thought I would have

the implants for a long time and I have not been prepared for taking

them out! But obviously my health is much more important. May I

ask you or anyone else what the cost usually ends up being to have

them explanted. I will try to have the military cover it but in

case they don't I want to know what I am up against. Thank you so

much for all of your help.

> >

> > Hello, I am new to this site. I am 28 years old. I have had my

> > implants for almost 3 years. In November I started feeling

really

> > run down and fatigued. I couldn't keep up with normal daily

> > activities. I kept getting virus after virus and I got worse.

My

> > hands, feet, and face started swelling. Eventually my joints

> > started aching. I started having pains that would run down my

> arms

> > and my arms would get weak and I couldn't lift them over my head

> and

> > my chest would pound. My doctors couldn't figure it out. Since

> > February I have had 3 sinus infections and 3 yeast infections.

I

> > still have swelling in my hands and feet and my joint pain is

> worse

> > than ever. I also started having night sweats and I get them at

> > least 3 times a week. The extreme fatigue hits me from time to

> > time. A doctor at Internal Medicine has done extensive testing

on

> > me and they can't figure it out. A 28 year old shouldn't feel

> this

> > way!!!! I urged the doctor at Internal Medicine to give me a

> > referral to a rheumatologist. He doesn't think I need it but

gave

> > me the referral anyways. I didn't even think about my implants

> > until recently while surfing on the Internet and came across

> > articles about saline implants and auto-immune diseases. I

don't

> > know if they are causing everything but the more and more that I

> > read I am becoming more convinced. What should I do??? Also,

for

> > those of you that have had your breasts explanted- did your

> warranty

> > cover anything? I don't have money right now to pay for

> > explantation because I am a student and my husband is getting

> ready

> > to retire from the military.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I am in Fayetteville NC. I am going to try to get the military to

cover it first before I pay for it myself.

> >Hello, I am new to this site. I am 28 years old. I have had my

> >implants for almost 3 years. In November I started feeling really

> >run down and fatigued. I couldn't keep up with normal daily

> >activities. I kept getting virus after virus and I got worse. My

> >hands, feet, and face started swelling. Eventually my joints

> >started aching. I started having pains that would run down my

arms

> >and my arms would get weak and I couldn't lift them over my head

and

> >my chest would pound. My doctors couldn't figure it out. Since

> >February I have had 3 sinus infections and 3 yeast infections. I

> >still have swelling in my hands and feet and my joint pain is

worse

> >than ever. I also started having night sweats and I get them at

> >least 3 times a week. The extreme fatigue hits me from time to

> >time. A doctor at Internal Medicine has done extensive testing on

> >me and they can't figure it out. A 28 year old shouldn't feel

this

> >way!!!! I urged the doctor at Internal Medicine to give me a

> >referral to a rheumatologist. He doesn't think I need it but gave

> >me the referral anyways. I didn't even think about my implants

> >until recently while surfing on the Internet and came across

> >articles about saline implants and auto-immune diseases. I don't

> >know if they are causing everything but the more and more that I

> >read I am becoming more convinced. What should I do??? Also, for

> >those of you that have had your breasts explanted- did your

warranty

> >cover anything? I don't have money right now to pay for

> >explantation because I am a student and my husband is getting

ready

> >to retire from the military.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given

> >by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> >licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> >mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> >decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

> >better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner

(1954,

> >Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

>

><http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.sh

utterfly.com/action/

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Also you might consider LuFeng in Cleveland, closer maybe???

You are up against $6000 or more for an explant either way. That

does not include a lift.

One other very good option is Dr. Huang in Denver, who does an

excellent job and is less expensive (geographical, I am

sure). Closer to $5000 and if you need a lift, about $2000 more. I

have sent at least a thousand women to her, including my daughter,

who had beautiful results with a lift.

Lynda

At 10:44 AM 5/21/2006, you wrote:

>I am in Fayetteville NC. I am going to try to get the military to

>cover it first before I pay for it myself.

>

>

>

> > >Hello, I am new to this site. I am 28 years old. I have had my

> > >implants for almost 3 years. In November I started feeling really

> > >run down and fatigued. I couldn't keep up with normal daily

> > >activities. I kept getting virus after virus and I got worse. My

> > >hands, feet, and face started swelling. Eventually my joints

> > >started aching. I started having pains that would run down my

>arms

> > >and my arms would get weak and I couldn't lift them over my head

>and

> > >my chest would pound. My doctors couldn't figure it out. Since

> > >February I have had 3 sinus infections and 3 yeast infections. I

> > >still have swelling in my hands and feet and my joint pain is

>worse

> > >than ever. I also started having night sweats and I get them at

> > >least 3 times a week. The extreme fatigue hits me from time to

> > >time. A doctor at Internal Medicine has done extensive testing on

> > >me and they can't figure it out. A 28 year old shouldn't feel

>this

> > >way!!!! I urged the doctor at Internal Medicine to give me a

> > >referral to a rheumatologist. He doesn't think I need it but gave

> > >me the referral anyways. I didn't even think about my implants

> > >until recently while surfing on the Internet and came across

> > >articles about saline implants and auto-immune diseases. I don't

> > >know if they are causing everything but the more and more that I

> > >read I am becoming more convinced. What should I do??? Also, for

> > >those of you that have had your breasts explanted- did your

>warranty

> > >cover anything? I don't have money right now to pay for

> > >explantation because I am a student and my husband is getting

>ready

> > >to retire from the military.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

>given

> > >by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> > >licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

>treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> > >mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> > >decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

> > >better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner

>(1954,

> > >Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > >See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> >

> ><<http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.

> shutterfly.com/action/>http://.sh

>utterfly.com/action/

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Yes, unfortunately the plastic surgeons should tell people who get

implanted to make sure they have a slush fund because many people

need additional surgeries after getting them, even if it's not

because their immune systems went crazy. Many people end up with

capsular contracture, or they bottom out, or they deflate in a

shorter time period - and I believe even with the so called Warranty

from the manufacturers, it still isn't a free surgery. Since the

manufacturers won't admit that implants make us sick, they

definetely won't cover an explant. I also wonder if the warranty is

only good if you're getting a new set of implants put in, not having

a set removed.

Sis

> > >

> > > Hello, I am new to this site. I am 28 years old. I have had my

> > > implants for almost 3 years. In November I started feeling

> really

> > > run down and fatigued. I couldn't keep up with normal daily

> > > activities. I kept getting virus after virus and I got

worse.

> My

> > > hands, feet, and face started swelling. Eventually my joints

> > > started aching. I started having pains that would run down my

> > arms

> > > and my arms would get weak and I couldn't lift them over my

head

> > and

> > > my chest would pound. My doctors couldn't figure it out. Since

> > > February I have had 3 sinus infections and 3 yeast

infections.

> I

> > > still have swelling in my hands and feet and my joint pain is

> > worse

> > > than ever. I also started having night sweats and I get them

at

> > > least 3 times a week. The extreme fatigue hits me from time

to

> > > time. A doctor at Internal Medicine has done extensive

testing

> on

> > > me and they can't figure it out. A 28 year old shouldn't feel

> > this

> > > way!!!! I urged the doctor at Internal Medicine to give me a

> > > referral to a rheumatologist. He doesn't think I need it but

> gave

> > > me the referral anyways. I didn't even think about my

implants

> > > until recently while surfing on the Internet and came across

> > > articles about saline implants and auto-immune diseases. I

> don't

> > > know if they are causing everything but the more and more that

I

> > > read I am becoming more convinced. What should I do??? Also,

> for

> > > those of you that have had your breasts explanted- did your

> > warranty

> > > cover anything? I don't have money right now to pay for

> > > explantation because I am a student and my husband is getting

> > ready

> > > to retire from the military.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello MGurney14,

So you're Army huh? Well, the Army can and will pay for removal right there in their own hospital. But once your husband retires you are no longer a priority. Please see your Family Practice MD and get the referral to surgery who should then refer you to plastic surgery. But you MUST get this ball rolling now. If it comes down to it, and you canot get your surgery scheduled prior to his discharge, don't panic...they cannot discharge him when you are pending surgery. So that is the reason you must get the ball rolling now. The military WILL do it so do not let them try and tell you otherwise! If you have any questions or feel like you need some guidance through military medicine please feel free to email me privately. I would be honored to help you in any way that I can.

Semper Fi

Christene

Oh, I should probably tell you....I'm a nurse, I was Active Duty during Desert Storm, and after that made my way around the world with my then Active Duty husband. I've worked in many Navy Hospitals. I'm currently in Atlanta but I'm about to move to ville, NC to work at the Naval Hospital on CLJ. Navy/Military medicine rules!

> > >Hello, I am new to this site. I am 28 years old. I have had my> > >implants for almost 3 years. In November I started feeling really> > >run down and fatigued. I couldn't keep up with normal daily> > >activities. I kept getting virus after virus and I got worse. My> > >hands, feet, and face started swelling. Eventually my joints> > >started aching. I started having pains that would run down my > arms> > >and my arms would get weak and I couldn't lift them over my head > and> > >my chest would pound. My doctors couldn't figure it out. Since> > >February I have had 3 sinus infections and 3 yeast infections. I> > >still have swelling in my hands and feet and my joint pain is > worse> > >than ever. I also started having night sweats and I get them at> > >least 3 times a week. The extreme fatigue hits me from time to> > >time. A doctor at Internal Medicine has done extensive testing on> > >me and they can't figure it out. A 28 year old shouldn't feel > this> > >way!!!! I urged the doctor at Internal Medicine to give me a> > >referral to a rheumatologist. He doesn't think I need it but gave> > >me the referral anyways. I didn't even think about my implants> > >until recently while surfing on the Internet and came across> > >articles about saline implants and auto-immune diseases. I don't> > >know if they are causing everything but the more and more that I> > >read I am becoming more convinced. What should I do??? Also, for> > >those of you that have had your breasts explanted- did your > warranty> > >cover anything? I don't have money right now to pay for> > >explantation because I am a student and my husband is getting > ready> > >to retire from the military.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice > given > > >by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or > > >licensed health care professional before commencing any medical > treatment.> > >> > >"Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians > > >mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own > > >decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a > > >better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner > (1954, > > >Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > >> > >See our photos website! Enter "implants" for access at this link:> > > ><http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.sh> utterfly.com/action/> > >> > >

[Guest guest]

Just be sure the military does the proper en bloc procedure.

Lynda

At 12:35 PM 5/21/2006, you wrote:

>Hello MGurney14,

>

>So you're Army huh?

>

> Well, the Army can and will pay for removal right there in their

> own hospital. But once your husband retires you are no longer a

> priority. Please see your Family Practice MD and get the referral

> to surgery who should then refer you to plastic surgery. But you

> MUST get this ball rolling now. If it comes down to it, and you

> canot get your surgery scheduled prior to his discharge, don't

> panic...they cannot discharge him when you are pending surgery. So

> that is the reason you must get the ball rolling now. The military

> WILL do it so do not let them try and tell you otherwise! If you

> have any questions or feel like you need some guidance through

> military medicine please feel free to email me privately. I would

> be honored to help you in any way that I can.

>

>Semper Fi

>

>Christene

>

>Oh, I should probably tell you....I'm a nurse, I was Active Duty

>during Desert Storm, and after that made my way around the world

>with my then Active Duty husband. I've worked in many Navy

>Hospitals. I'm currently in Atlanta but I'm about to move to

>ville, NC to work at the Naval Hospital on

>CLJ. Navy/Military medicine rules!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > > >Hello, I am new to this site. I am 28 years old. I have had my

> > > >implants for almost 3 years. In November I started feeling really

> > > >run down and fatigued. I couldn't keep up with normal daily

> > > >activities. I kept getting virus after virus and I got worse. My

> > > >hands, feet, and face started swelling. Eventually my joints

> > > >started aching. I started having pains that would run down my

> > arms

> > > >and my arms would get weak and I couldn't lift them over my head

> > and

> > > >my chest would pound. My doctors couldn't figure it out. Since

> > > >February I have had 3 sinus infections and 3 yeast infections. I

> > > >still have swelling in my hands and feet and my joint pain is

> > worse

> > > >than ever. I also started having night sweats and I get them at

> > > >least 3 times a week. The extreme fatigue hits me from time to

> > > >time. A doctor at Internal Medicine has done extensive testing on

> > > >me and they can't figure it out. A 28 year old shouldn't feel

> > this

> > > >way!!!! I urged the doctor at Internal Medicine to give me a

> > > >referral to a rheumatologist. He doesn't think I need it but gave

> > > >me the referral anyways. I didn't even think about my implants

> > > >until recently while surfing on the Internet and came across

> > > >articles about saline implants and auto-immune diseases. I don't

> > > >know if they are causing everything but the more and more that I

> > > >read I am becoming more convinced. What should I do??? Also, for

> > > >those of you that have had your breasts explanted- did your

> > warranty

> > > >cover anything? I don't have money right now to pay for

> > > >explantation because I am a student and my husband is getting

> > ready

> > > >to retire from the military.

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

>by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

>licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

>decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

>better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

>Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

><http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.shutterfly.co\

m/action/

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sis,

That's right . . . the warranty isn't good if one is

not replacing the implants! . . .

Crazy, huh? They've got to keep the women on the

implant merry-go-round!

At least, under the proposed FDA approval, they will

have to track women's health issues, even after

implants have been removed. Before, they just dropped

women who had their implants removed from the studies.

.. . . Seems the results were better that way!

Rogene

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Hi there, I am sure by now you've realized that your implants are probably the factor--the missing puzzle piece that the doctors commonly neglect. Your symptoms are just too familiar to this group of women. Unfortunately too, you are in a position that most women find themselves in. The plastic surgeons are failing to caution women about the need to have a fund set aside for that day when they will have to take care of their implants again. That day is here for you, I am afraid. The only thing you can do at this point is to consider permanent removal of the implants in order to try to get your health back. It's what we've discovered is the primary need when the immune system gets off balance. Be careful about racking up huge medical bills for a gazillion tests. While it may give you a sense of peace to be able to put a name on your

illness, in the end it could prove very damaging to your ability to get health insurance if you should ever need to get private coverage. And be careful about getting treatment from a rheumatologist...they are all trained to give out drugs as a bandaid for disease...which is not recommended for our ultimate goal of healing. Drugs are very toxic and can actually prevent long term healing from ever taking place. The best approach to healing is found in detoxification and natural healing methods. It allows your body to cleanse itself and get back to a normal state of balance that it had before it was ever exposed to implants. Sometimes drugs are needed to find relief in very desperate situations, but I think it is wise to be very careful about how much you take and how long you take them. It is very possible to heal without relying on pharmaceutical drugs. The first steps you should probably take

would be to start searching for a close doctor to possibly do the explant. Without implant removal, your chances of healing will be almost zero. I am sorry you are in this situation, but you are definitely not the first to be in it, and unfortunately, you won't be the last. Patty mgurney14 <mgurney14@...> wrote: Hello, I am new to this site. I am 28 years old. I have had my implants for almost 3 years. In November I started feeling really run down and fatigued. I couldn't keep up with normal daily activities. I kept getting virus after virus and I got worse. My hands, feet, and face started swelling. Eventually my joints started aching. I started having pains that would run down my arms and my arms would get weak and I couldn't

lift them over my head and my chest would pound. My doctors couldn't figure it out. Since February I have had 3 sinus infections and 3 yeast infections. I still have swelling in my hands and feet and my joint pain is worse than ever. I also started having night sweats and I get them at least 3 times a week. The extreme fatigue hits me from time to time. A doctor at Internal Medicine has done extensive testing on me and they can't figure it out. A 28 year old shouldn't feel this way!!!! I urged the doctor at Internal Medicine to give me a referral to a rheumatologist. He doesn't think I need it but gave me the referral anyways. I didn't even think about my implants until recently while surfing on the Internet and came across articles about saline implants and auto-immune diseases. I don't know if they are causing everything but the more and more that I read I am

becoming more convinced. What should I do??? Also, for those of you that have had your breasts explanted- did your warranty cover anything? I don't have money right now to pay for explantation because I am a student and my husband is getting ready to retire from the military.

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