Re: Now I am confused....

[Guest guest]

I also bet they will slice the implant open before removal?? Ask them that question as well.

Donna

[Guest guest]

Rogene,

I was wondering if Penni had saline or silicone and how long did she have implants before removal. I am going to Dr. Kolb next week for removal.

Donna

[Guest guest]

Speaking of drains . . . Penni had to stay in Alanta

an extended period (hopefully she's home now) because

she had so much drainage . . . Had she not had drains,

it's likely she would have experienced an awful lot of

pain - and possible other complications.

Some capsules become calcified . . . actually brittle

with calcium deposits. It's highly unlikely yours are

calcified. However, you still have capsules that

should be removed.

Hugs

Rogene

[Guest guest]

I e-mailed Dr. Kolb and told her my implants are making me sick. I scheduled for surgery 3 weeks out. She does emergence cases like mine. She understand's this procedure. I am sure Dr. Feng would do the same I would die if I had to wait til December. Please look at the list of physicians for proper removal and skilled in this procedure.

Donna

[Guest guest]

,

My doctor did a complete capsulectomy - I didn't know

to ask for one. To this day, he still leaves the

capsules in. I'm convinced that God held his hands as

he removed my implants.

Even the most die-hard pro-implant plastic surgeon CAN

do the job right. . . However, before going under the

knife, you want to KNOW that you can trust him/her to

do the job right.

Anything else is too risky!

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

I didn't read beyond your post to see if anyone else has responded,

but if they did respond I'm sure we're saying something similar. If

you are having symptoms, the capsules need to come out of the body.

If your body is reactive to the implants, then the capsules must

come out, calcified or not. The capsules absorb whatever chemicals

and toxins the implants are putting out, and if the capsules stay in

your body, you could continue to react to the toxins. Make sure the

doctor does a complete capsulectomy, and uses the " en bloc "

procedure. Also, tell the doctor that you want drains, even if they

don't normally use them.

Sis

>

> I talked with the surgical nurse because the PS is out of town

today.

> She was in the room during my consult and saw my breast. She said:

>

> - that the procedure to take them out is easy.

> - That Dr. Mladick " scores " the tissue using cauterization so the

> muscle is no longer smooth and will reattach better. (mine are

under

> the muscle)

> - that the dead space that was created will fill with

something...any

> dead space in the body will do that. But it will reabsorb.

> - They don't use drains

> - She said that I do not have any calcified capsules.....etc. And

I

> really don't...my breast are very soft. So.....is a capsulectomy

> required when there is no calcification???????

>

> - We talked about the lift again...and she said she thinks I

would

> get better results on the lift if I waited a couple of months for

> things to settle where they are going to settle. That way...he

can

> better determine how much skin to take off...which results in a

better

> lift. The cost is $5,800 for just the lift. The ex plant is

costing

> me $2,800.

> - I asked about antibiotics and she said they give them to me

during

> surgery in the IV...but not any to take home....etc.

> - She said...they will be happy to send my implants whereever my

> doctor would like for them to go to be analyzed for

pathology...but

> that they do not do it there.

>

[Guest guest]

Rogene...

Did Penni see Dr. Kolbe (think I spelled it correctly). Maybe it is

worth a trip to Atlanta after all. I live in Virginia. Yes...drains

do make sense.

>

> Speaking of drains . . . Penni had to stay in Alanta

> an extended period (hopefully she's home now) because

> she had so much drainage . . . Had she not had drains,

> it's likely she would have experienced an awful lot of

> pain - and possible other complications.

>

> Some capsules become calcified . . . actually brittle

> with calcium deposits. It's highly unlikely yours are

> calcified. However, you still have capsules that

> should be removed.

>

> Hugs

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Sis....I will and if he won't then I'll just have to wait and go

elsewhere. Already have another consult but this PS is so in demand

that it is not until December.

All of what you guys are saying makes a great deal of

sense...especially if I am having an immune reaction...you are

right, the capsules has to come out too. And I want those DRAINS.

From what I read here.....it is h..l to pay without them.

> >

> > I talked with the surgical nurse because the PS is out of town

> today.

> > She was in the room during my consult and saw my breast. She

said:

> >

> > - that the procedure to take them out is easy.

> > - That Dr. Mladick " scores " the tissue using cauterization so

the

> > muscle is no longer smooth and will reattach better. (mine are

> under

> > the muscle)

> > - that the dead space that was created will fill with

> something...any

> > dead space in the body will do that. But it will reabsorb.

> > - They don't use drains

> > - She said that I do not have any calcified capsules.....etc.

And

> I

> > really don't...my breast are very soft. So.....is a

capsulectomy

> > required when there is no calcification???????

> >

> > - We talked about the lift again...and she said she thinks I

> would

> > get better results on the lift if I waited a couple of months

for

> > things to settle where they are going to settle. That way...he

> can

> > better determine how much skin to take off...which results in a

> better

> > lift. The cost is $5,800 for just the lift. The ex plant is

> costing

> > me $2,800.

> > - I asked about antibiotics and she said they give them to me

> during

> > surgery in the IV...but not any to take home....etc.

> > - She said...they will be happy to send my implants whereever

my

> > doctor would like for them to go to be analyzed for

> pathology...but

> > that they do not do it there.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

Yes, Penni did see Dr. Kolb. She was very happy about

everything - except how long it was taking for the

drainage to stop!

She should be posting again soon.

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Donna,

I emailed Dr. Kolb last night, told her my story. I received an email

from her this morning telling me that she thinks I have biotoxins due

to mold. She wants me to call her to discuss the explantation.

I tried to call, the office is closed...so will call Monday. May even

email her back and give her my number.

I can't remember. Have you had yours out yet?

>

> I e-mailed Dr. Kolb and told her my implants are making me sick. I

scheduled

> for surgery 3 weeks out. She does emergence cases like mine. She

> understand's this procedure. I am sure Dr. Feng would do the same I

would die if I had

> to wait til December. Please look at the list of physicians for

proper

> removal and skilled in this procedure.

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

Donna,

I will be very interested to know about your experience with Dr.

Kolb. I may be doing the same thing...traveling to Georgia.

In fact, the more I have thought about this....the more I absolutely

want someone that will do it right. I also like the idea that she

is holistically based...and a woman...who can better understand the

nuances of this toxicity.

>

> Rogene,

>

> I was wondering if Penni had saline or silicone and how long did

she have

> implants before removal. I am going to Dr. Kolb next week for

removal.

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

,

I will be keeping this support site posted for sure on the outcome of my surgery and if it makes me any better. I am going to Dr. Kolb because I am sick of being lied to by my PS who denies any of my symptoms are due to implants. I have been sick since getting them and I am only getting worse by the day. I am tired of PS who deny the facts that we are getting sick from saline implants as well as silicone. If I had silicone they would take me more serious. However, they both have the same shell? So, I am tired and sick of going to Dr. to Dr. and getting pushed around. I would travel to Egypt if I thought I would get well, this is why the 8 hour drive to Dr. Kolb. I haven't meet her and I am only going by the referrals from this site. I do know that one women did the background search on Dr. Kolb and used her for herself for ex plant. She says, she is wonderful and saved her life. This is the stuff I need to hear and use for getting well is my goal. I have been to enough quacks the past year and 4 months I am so ready for a specialist in this area of medicine.

Donna

[Guest guest]

I leave Monday morning for explant. I go Monday at 5:00 p.m. for my first consult with Dr. Kolb. I go Tuesday to sign papers and Wednesday 24th is ex plant day for me. I will keep you and all posted on this board. If I can't do it I have another lady that I will call to do for me. I will have a laptop and computer access at the hotel suite where I will be staying about 2 minutes from Dr. Kolb's office. I do know she takes insurance or financing and you get discount if you tell hotel its for medical reasons. I will keep you updated and good luck with your ex plant soon.

Donna

[Guest guest]

Donna,

Congradulations on making the commitment! . . . Take

good care of yourself in the meantime . . . Life is

going to be good again!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

If you leave a message for Dr. Kolb over the weekend, chances are

she will call you back over the weekend and spend a great deal of

time speaking with you. That's what happened with me, she called me

on a Saturday. I ended up going with Dr. Feng because I decided I'd

rather drive to Ohio than fly to Atlanta, but Dr. Kolb is very

involved with her patients from what I see. Not to say Dr. Feng

isn't, she's an excellent surgeon and is very caring, but Dr. Kolb

is just very accessible compared to most doctors.

Sis

> >

> > I e-mailed Dr. Kolb and told her my implants are making me

sick. I

> scheduled

> > for surgery 3 weeks out. She does emergence cases like mine.

She

> > understand's this procedure. I am sure Dr. Feng would do the

same I

> would die if I had

> > to wait til December. Please look at the list of physicians for

> proper

> > removal and skilled in this procedure.

> >

> > Donna

> >

>

[Guest guest]

-

Donna

I am wishing you all the best on your upcoming explant. You are in

my thoughts and prayers

Hugs, kathy

-- In , BSBanshee1@... wrote:

>

> I leave Monday morning for explant. I go Monday at 5:00 p.m. for

my first

> consult with Dr. Kolb. I go Tuesday to sign papers and Wednesday

24th is ex

> plant day for me. I will keep you and all posted on this board.

If I can't do

> it I have another lady that I will call to do for me. I will have

a laptop and

> computer access at the hotel suite where I will be staying about 2

minutes

> from Dr. Kolb's office. I do know she takes insurance or

financing and you get

> discount if you tell hotel its for medical reasons. I will keep

you updated

> and good luck with your ex plant soon.

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Donna. Dr. Kolb called me tonight! Yes!

I have tentatively scheduled surgery or should I say she has

penciled me in for June 15th.....which means I need to go down on

the 12th to be there on the 13th for a consult....testing on the

14th and surgery on the 15th. I would have gone down sooner...but

my daughter is graduating from high school June 10th.

I am going to see my internal medicine doctor this week...and will

update her. She and Dr Kolb will talk ...such that Dr. Hudson can

continue my care once I am home. In fact, I am hoping that Dr.

Hudson will go ahead and put me on some antifungal medication to get

me started. I am already on some of the other things....for liver

cleansing....that is meantioned on the site.

I just hope I can work all of this in ...between kids graduating

from high school (my step son is also graduating). I have to go to

college orientation with my daughter the last week of June...etc.

>

> ,

>

> I will be keeping this support site posted for sure on the outcome

of my

> surgery and if it makes me any better. I am going to Dr. Kolb

because I am sick

> of being lied to by my PS who denies any of my symptoms are due to

implants. I

> have been sick since getting them and I am only getting worse by

the day. I

> am tired of PS who deny the facts that we are getting sick from

saline

> implants as well as silicone. If I had silicone they would take

me more serious.

> However, they both have the same shell? So, I am tired and sick

of going to Dr.

> to Dr. and getting pushed around. I would travel to Egypt if I

thought I

> would get well, this is why the 8 hour drive to Dr. Kolb. I

haven't meet her and

> I am only going by the referrals from this site. I do know that

one women

> did the background search on Dr. Kolb and used her for herself for

ex plant.

> She says, she is wonderful and saved her life. This is the stuff

I need to hear

> and use for getting well is my goal. I have been to enough quacks

the past

> year and 4 months I am so ready for a specialist in this area of

medicine.

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

Donna...Good Luck...and I will be thinking of you!!!!

>

> I leave Monday morning for explant. I go Monday at 5:00 p.m. for

my first

> consult with Dr. Kolb. I go Tuesday to sign papers and Wednesday

24th is ex

> plant day for me. I will keep you and all posted on this board.

If I can't do

> it I have another lady that I will call to do for me. I will have

a laptop and

> computer access at the hotel suite where I will be staying about 2

minutes

> from Dr. Kolb's office. I do know she takes insurance or

financing and you get

> discount if you tell hotel its for medical reasons. I will keep

you updated

> and good luck with your ex plant soon.

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

Rogene and all who responded,

Thanks so much for the support, I will be letting you all know how my surgery goes with Dr. Kolb. I hope this works for me to get these toxic bags removed. I have a very good feeling it will. There is no other explanation as to why I am sick and tired. I have had every test and all come back to be normal. I know I am not normal and I also know I am not crazy. I have 33 symptoms and hope all will vanish in time after implants are removed. Thanks for the support and knowledge you all have with implants. I will be letting you all know how it goes.

Donna

[Guest guest]

,

Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful . . .

It looks like you're going to have a very busy June! .

.. . You shouldn't have any problem going to

orientation by the end of June! . . .

Life is going to be good again! . . .

Please take very good care of yourself in the

meantime!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Thanks Rogene...I will certainly try.

By the way....can anyone describe the " en bloc " procedure for me. I

am assuming this means something other than going in thru the

areola. Having a hard time getting a visual of what this means.

Thanks....

>

> ,

>

> Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful . . .

>

> It looks like you're going to have a very busy June! .

> . . You shouldn't have any problem going to

> orientation by the end of June! . . .

>

> Life is going to be good again! . . .

>

> Please take very good care of yourself in the

> meantime!

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Well Donna, This is it! Wishing you a safe trip to Atlanta. I'll also be wishing you the very best for tomorrow at your pre-op with Dr. Kolb. It really is happening for you. I can't wait to hear that this is over and you are on the road to healing. sedwards41255 <sedwards41255@...> wrote: Donna...Good Luck...and I will be thinking of you!!!!>> I leave Monday morning for explant. I go Monday at 5:00 p.m. for my first > consult with Dr. Kolb. I go Tuesday to sign papers and Wednesday 24th is ex > plant day for me. I will keep you and all posted on this board. If I can't do > it I have another lady that I will call to do for me. I will have a laptop and

> computer access at the hotel suite where I will be staying about 2 minutes > from Dr. Kolb's office. I do know she takes insurance or financing and you get > discount if you tell hotel its for medical reasons. I will keep you updated > and good luck with your ex plant soon.> > Donna>

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[Guest guest]

,

The body grows a capsule around any implant placed in

the body to wall off self from non-self.

With the en bloc procedure, the doctor cuts around

this capsule (the implant is still inside) and removes

the capsule and implant as one piece.

The reason this is important is that there can be a

wide array of contaminents between the capsule and the

implant - you don't want anything spilled into your

chest cavity on explant - or left behind to mimic a

tumor or release toxins.

Surgeons would prefer to make an incision through the

capsule wall, pop the implant out, and sew you up . .

.. Quick, quick, quick $$$$$$$$$$$$ It takes

considerably longer to do the job right! As well as

more skill on the part of the surgeon!

What we've observed over the years is that, when a

woman gets worse, rather than better, after explant

that either she had an extracapsular rupture, there

was a spill during explant, or the capsule was left

behind. It's simply not worth the risk!

Hope this helps.

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene