Re: Re: Thryroid & Systemic Lymph Node Swelling & Saline Implant

[Guest guest]

Hi Cindi,

I'm getting a warning message on this site . . . so I

won't go there.

Could you tell me more about iodine and thyroid?

My massage therapist tells me that, if you paint

iodine on clean skin, and it disappears quickly, you

may have a problem. Is this true?

Rogene

--- cindi22595 <cindi22595@...> wrote:

> here is where the iodine group has started

> collecting info...in

> case this might be helpful to you.

>

> http://216.27.161.35/iodine/index.htm

>

> cindi

>

>

> -- In , " tonjera6 "

> <tonjera6@...> wrote:

> >

> > I had saline breast implants removed August 2005.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Cindi,

My brother had thyroid cancer when he was still in his

thirties . . . He had radiation therapy and has done

well with Synthroid.

I recently had a thyroid scan . . . No follow-up was

recommended. I think I need to investigate it further.

Rogene

[Guest guest]

My thyroid nodules were determined to be " normal

goiter tissue " . . . That was over 13 years ago. There

were four nodules at the time.

Nothing has been done since my recent scan. There was

no attempt to count the nodules this time. . . But

there are many . . . I watched the scan being done.

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Check out this information . . . .

http://www.newstarget.com/015232.html

I'm using this product in an effort to prevent a

reoccurance of breast cancer. . . As compared with

prescription meds, it makes one feel better! . . .

I feel as though I'm playing a game of " You Bet Your

Life " . . . Let's hope it's as good as they say!

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Cindi,

I don't have a dx YET! . . . I am going to pressure my

doctor for a further workup with an endo. I have a

host of tests coming up for my post-cancer appointment

at UAMS . . . I'd like to get all my care transfered

to them - they have a Center for Aging that I'd love

to get signed up with. IMHO, one should be able to

stay active and productive for many more years than

most people do - if issues were addressed rather than

ignored. . . . By addressing, I mean by identifying

problems and treating them with wholistic measures

rather than drugs. If their emphasis is on drugs, I'm

not interested.

My brother is 65 now . . . I don't know which other

medications he's taking. . . if any.

He believes his thyroid cancer was due to working out

doors in an area that had considerable fallout during

the bomb testing days . . . and drinking raw milk

during that time.

His wife told me that there were three types of cancer

found in his thyroid.

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Cindi

What explant would do is to take some of the stress

off your immune system so it wouldn't be dealing with

so many issues at one time.

We've seen numerous women who's autoimmune issues have

either improved dramatically, or completely

disappeared after explant . . . Too many for it to be

a coincidence.

Unfortunately thyroid issues seem to be more

resistant. However, even those can improve.

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Wow! . . . Low T3 and breast cancer? . . .

Interesting! . . . I'll definitely bring it up with

the oncologist at UAMS . . . They're a research center

and may be interested - on the other hand??? We'll

see!

Can you point me to the low T3/breast cancer

connection?

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Thanks Penni,

I'll try that . . . My massage therapist told me to

put iodine on my tummy . . . It was gone in one hour!

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Thanks Cindi . . . This is going with me to the

doctor!

Rogene

--- cindi22595 <cindi22595@...> wrote:

> Here are two articles I'd kept:

>

> Thyroid disorders and breast cancer.

>

> Shering SG, Zbar AP, Moriarty M, et al.

>

> Eur J Cancer Prev. 1996 Dec; 5(6):504-6.

>

> We have investigated the controversial association

> between diseases

> of the thyroid gland and breast carcinoma using

> methodology which

> allows positive exclusion of cases of breast disease

> from control

> groups and the detection of subclinical alterations

> in thyroid

> volume using high resolution ultrasonography, thus

> addressing the

> deficiencies of earlier studies. Whereas the

> prevalence of

> hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism in patients with

> breast carcinoma

> and in healthy controls without clinical evidence of

> breast disease

> was similar, non-toxic goitre was more than twice as

> common in the

> breast carcinoma patients. Thyroid volumes were also

> significantly

> higher in breast carcinoma patients than in

> controls; using World

> Health Organisation criteria, 45.5% of breast

> carcinoma patients had

> thyroid enlargement compared with only 10.5% of

> controls. Finally,

> antithyroid peroxidase autoantibodies were twice as

> common in breast

> cancer patients than in controls. These findings

> provide clear

> evidence of a relationship between thyroid disease

> and breast

> carcinoma, although the mechanisms underlying this

> relationship

> require further study, future studies of breast

> cancer risk factors

> should therefore include assessment of thyroid

> function, antibody

> status and volume

>

>

>

> The thyroid and breast cancer: a significant

> association?

>

> Smyth PP.

>

> Ann Med. 1997 Jun; 29(3):189-91.

>

> The coincidence of thyroid disorders and breast

> cancer has long been

> a subject of debate. Associations with

> hyperthyroidism,

> hypothyroidism, thyroiditis and nontoxic goitre have

> been reported.

> Although no convincing evidence exists of a causal

> role for overt

> thyroid disease in breast cancer, the preponderance

> of published

> work favours an association with hypothyroidism.

> Geographical

> variations in the incidence of breast cancer have

> been attributed to

> differences in dietary iodine intake and an effect

> of iodide on the

> breast has been postulated. Recent reports have

> shown a direct

> association between thyroid enlargement, as assessed

> by ultrasound,

> and breast cancer. Although the exact mechanism for

> the demonstrated

> association between diseases of the thyroid and

> breast cancer

> remains to be elucidated, there is at least the

> possibility that the

> presence of thyroid abnormalities may influence

> breast cancer

> progression and this alone should stimulate

> awareness into the

> coincidence of the two disorders

>

>

> cindi

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Wow! . . . Low T3 and breast cancer? . . .

> > Interesting! . . . I'll definitely bring it up

> with

> > the oncologist at UAMS . . . They're a research

> center

> > and may be interested - on the other hand???

> We'll

> > see!

> >

> > Can you point me to the low T3/breast cancer

> > connection?

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

ONE AUTHOR OF THIS ARTICLE IS MY RELATIVE AND WE HAVE THE SAME UNUSUAL LAST

NAME............. AMAZING COINCIDENCE..........

Sherry

Re: Re: Thryroid & Systemic Lymph Node Swelling &

Saline Implant

> Thanks Cindi . . . This is going with me to the

> doctor!

>

> Rogene

>

>

> --- cindi22595 <cindi22595@...> wrote:

>

>> Here are two articles I'd kept:

>>

>> Thyroid disorders and breast cancer.

>>

>> Shering SG, Zbar AP, Moriarty M, et al.

>>

>> Eur J Cancer Prev. 1996 Dec; 5(6):504-6.

>>

>> We have investigated the controversial association

>> between diseases

>> of the thyroid gland and breast carcinoma using

>> methodology which

>> allows positive exclusion of cases of breast disease

>> from control

>> groups and the detection of subclinical alterations

>> in thyroid

>> volume using high resolution ultrasonography, thus

>> addressing the

>> deficiencies of earlier studies. Whereas the

>> prevalence of

>> hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism in patients with

>> breast carcinoma

>> and in healthy controls without clinical evidence of

>> breast disease

>> was similar, non-toxic goitre was more than twice as

>> common in the

>> breast carcinoma patients. Thyroid volumes were also

>> significantly

>> higher in breast carcinoma patients than in

>> controls; using World

>> Health Organisation criteria, 45.5% of breast

>> carcinoma patients had

>> thyroid enlargement compared with only 10.5% of

>> controls. Finally,

>> antithyroid peroxidase autoantibodies were twice as

>> common in breast

>> cancer patients than in controls. These findings

>> provide clear

>> evidence of a relationship between thyroid disease

>> and breast

>> carcinoma, although the mechanisms underlying this

>> relationship

>> require further study, future studies of breast

>> cancer risk factors

>> should therefore include assessment of thyroid

>> function, antibody

>> status and volume

>>

>>

>>

>> The thyroid and breast cancer: a significant

>> association?

>>

>> Smyth PP.

>>

>> Ann Med. 1997 Jun; 29(3):189-91.

>>

>> The coincidence of thyroid disorders and breast

>> cancer has long been

>> a subject of debate. Associations with

>> hyperthyroidism,

>> hypothyroidism, thyroiditis and nontoxic goitre have

>> been reported.

>> Although no convincing evidence exists of a causal

>> role for overt

>> thyroid disease in breast cancer, the preponderance

>> of published

>> work favours an association with hypothyroidism.

>> Geographical

>> variations in the incidence of breast cancer have

>> been attributed to

>> differences in dietary iodine intake and an effect

>> of iodide on the

>> breast has been postulated. Recent reports have

>> shown a direct

>> association between thyroid enlargement, as assessed

>> by ultrasound,

>> and breast cancer. Although the exact mechanism for

>> the demonstrated

>> association between diseases of the thyroid and

>> breast cancer

>> remains to be elucidated, there is at least the

>> possibility that the

>> presence of thyroid abnormalities may influence

>> breast cancer

>> progression and this alone should stimulate

>> awareness into the

>> coincidence of the two disorders

>>

>>

>> cindi

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> >

>> > Wow! . . . Low T3 and breast cancer? . . .

>> > Interesting! . . . I'll definitely bring it up

>> with

>> > the oncologist at UAMS . . . They're a research

>> center

>> > and may be interested - on the other hand???

>> We'll

>> > see!

>> >

>> > Can you point me to the low T3/breast cancer

>> > connection?

>> >

>> > Hugs,

>> >

>> > Rogene

>> >

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Rogene,

Hee Hee Tummy huh! That made me LOL. Penni

Re: Re: Thryroid & Systemic Lymph Node Swelling & Saline Implant

Thanks Penni,I'll try that . . . My massage therapist told me toput iodine on my tummy . . . It was gone in one hour!Rogene

[Guest guest]

This was published by the British Journal of Surgery I believe.......

Sherry

Re: Re: Thryroid & Systemic Lymph Node Swelling &

Saline Implant

> Thanks Cindi . . . This is going with me to the

> doctor!

>

> Rogene

>

>

> --- cindi22595 <cindi22595@...> wrote:

>

>> Here are two articles I'd kept:

>>

>> Thyroid disorders and breast cancer.

>>

>> Shering SG, Zbar AP, Moriarty M, et al.

>>

>> Eur J Cancer Prev. 1996 Dec; 5(6):504-6.

>>

>> We have investigated the controversial association

>> between diseases

>> of the thyroid gland and breast carcinoma using

>> methodology which

>> allows positive exclusion of cases of breast disease

>> from control

>> groups and the detection of subclinical alterations

>> in thyroid

>> volume using high resolution ultrasonography, thus

>> addressing the

>> deficiencies of earlier studies. Whereas the

>> prevalence of

>> hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism in patients with

>> breast carcinoma

>> and in healthy controls without clinical evidence of

>> breast disease

>> was similar, non-toxic goitre was more than twice as

>> common in the

>> breast carcinoma patients. Thyroid volumes were also

>> significantly

>> higher in breast carcinoma patients than in

>> controls; using World

>> Health Organisation criteria, 45.5% of breast

>> carcinoma patients had

>> thyroid enlargement compared with only 10.5% of

>> controls. Finally,

>> antithyroid peroxidase autoantibodies were twice as

>> common in breast

>> cancer patients than in controls. These findings

>> provide clear

>> evidence of a relationship between thyroid disease

>> and breast

>> carcinoma, although the mechanisms underlying this

>> relationship

>> require further study, future studies of breast

>> cancer risk factors

>> should therefore include assessment of thyroid

>> function, antibody

>> status and volume

>>

>>

>>

>> The thyroid and breast cancer: a significant

>> association?

>>

>> Smyth PP.

>>

>> Ann Med. 1997 Jun; 29(3):189-91.

>>

>> The coincidence of thyroid disorders and breast

>> cancer has long been

>> a subject of debate. Associations with

>> hyperthyroidism,

>> hypothyroidism, thyroiditis and nontoxic goitre have

>> been reported.

>> Although no convincing evidence exists of a causal

>> role for overt

>> thyroid disease in breast cancer, the preponderance

>> of published

>> work favours an association with hypothyroidism.

>> Geographical

>> variations in the incidence of breast cancer have

>> been attributed to

>> differences in dietary iodine intake and an effect

>> of iodide on the

>> breast has been postulated. Recent reports have

>> shown a direct

>> association between thyroid enlargement, as assessed

>> by ultrasound,

>> and breast cancer. Although the exact mechanism for

>> the demonstrated

>> association between diseases of the thyroid and

>> breast cancer

>> remains to be elucidated, there is at least the

>> possibility that the

>> presence of thyroid abnormalities may influence

>> breast cancer

>> progression and this alone should stimulate

>> awareness into the

>> coincidence of the two disorders

>>

>>

>> cindi

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> >

>> > Wow! . . . Low T3 and breast cancer? . . .

>> > Interesting! . . . I'll definitely bring it up

>> with

>> > the oncologist at UAMS . . . They're a research

>> center

>> > and may be interested - on the other hand???

>> We'll

>> > see!

>> >

>> > Can you point me to the low T3/breast cancer

>> > connection?

>> >

>> > Hugs,

>> >

>> > Rogene

>> >

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>

>