Re: Re: thyroid issues - stepping out of the room now

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Cindi, I appreciate the information that you have provided regarding the thyroid issues. It's been very helpful, and the discussions have been good. However, I really have to disagree with your assessment that explant surgery may be unnecessary. You are not a doctor and you do not have a background in the complexity of breast implant issues enough to make such an assessment. We do have many professionals of various backgrounds that stand along side us in the necessity of explant for healing of our many issues and symptoms. Breast implants are not a healthy thing to have in the body, period. As such, explant would always be considered preferable than playing a waiting game until health conditions necessiated removal. The name of the game should always be prevention where matters of health are concerned. That means

taking the safer road, and in my opinion, that means getting rid of the toxic bombs. Need I mention that you ARE going to go through another surgery at some point? Your implants are not lifetime devices. Surgery is in your future, guaranteed, Cindi. Guaranteed. Your claim is that surgery may be unnecessary, but alas, it is going to happen one way or the other girl! I do appreciate the additional focus on thyroid issues and the need to monitor levels. As you yourself stated, it seems that there are very, very few doctors who fully understand this aspect of monitoring, so it is surprising that any of us know the numbers? Thanks again for the discussion. Best wishes. Patty cindi22595 <cindi22595@...> wrote: Ladies, This has been interesting. As i posted earlier, I somehow saw your home page list of symptoms and thought " wow - that is a Hashi's list of symptoms, and a pretty darn good one at that. " And as i originally suspected, there ARE a number of Hashi's folks here...and those with thyroid dysfunction not diagnosed as Hashi's. We (my thyroidal buddies) find them (undertreated hypo folks) in all sorts of areas - the fibro forums, the CFS forums, the MCS forums...but i have been fairly surprised to see such a large group in a Saline Support forum. But it shouldn't surprise me..my own untreated Hashi's

worsened (as should be expected) after surgery/anethesia for breast implants. But what is sad to me...as is sad to me in whatever arena we see Hashi's folks who aren't optimally treated...is that folks here might be having unnecessary surgery when their symptoms could have been relieved with enough thyroid hormone. We see all sorts of treatments/procedures that folks have gone through that were unnecessary. That is a tragedy. In not one of these threads/discussions over the past few days..did a Hashi's person post their Free levels and say to me "See - i AM optimally treated - My Free T4 is in the upper 1/3 of the range and my Free T3 is right at the top of the range or slightly over - and I STILL have these symptoms". If I had heard that from anyone, the credibility about Hashi's/thyroid and implants would be much more credible. But if the thyroid folks are not being optimally treated...it is

negilgent to even suggest explant because of the additional risk of surgery to someone who is hypo. Anyway, those are just my closing thoughts. My thyroid forum is really too busy for me to try to keep up with another forum. But I wish you all the very best. It sounds like a great group of gals here. If any of you thyroidal folks want some help, come on over to NTH - Natural Thyroid Hormones. Or feel free to post a question at our site, www.stopthethyroidmadness.com. But be forewarned, the first thing we will ask you about are your Free levels. Take care gals...i'm moving on. Cindi __________________________________________________