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Hi Penni! Another coffee enema queen! I miss Tucson....lived there for over 20 years. What doctor did you see? My first naturopath was Dr. Lance . I really liked him. He was the first one to tell me that my breast implants were horrible things to have in the human body. I was so grateful to finally hear a doctor say that, after going to other doctors who poo-poo'd the implant connection to my sudden symptoms. He worked with me over a period of months, first putting me on a fasting program, then juices; after that we tested for heavy metals toxicity, followed by amalgam removals and chelation therapy. He also started me on several herbal remedies, which he mixed for me right there in his office and gave to me in brown bottles with droppers. He was so nice. I'm glad I'm not alone in the coffee enema

department! PattyPenni Pitre <penniquilts@...> wrote: Donna, It sounds to me like your BIL has Multiple Chemical Sensitivies. I have had this problem for 26 years and it requires a big lifestyle change. As sick as he is I would start out on something very mild to detox such as a detox kit that Heel makes. I believe it has 3 or 4 bottles of different homeopathic remedies that you can add to water and than sip on all day. It's harmless

and I don't even remember getting a headache from it but it is a starting point. I'm not sure where your BIL lives but Dr. Sherry is the expert on MCS. She lives and practices in NY. Otherwise I would recommend that your BIL go to see Dr. Rea in Dallas, Texas. My other suggestions for you and your BIL would be to buy Sherry book "Detoxify or Die". She has several books out but this book goes into detail about detox cocktails and the infra-red sauna. Another book that I would HIGHLY recommend for you and especially for your BIL is "Our Toxic World" by Doris Rapp. Not only is it informative but has many many references as to where you can get help. Also I have done coffee enemas for years. I make 1 cup of STRONG organic coffee made with distilled water. I dilute this to 2 cups of distilled water. When I do

enemas I do them this way. First I do just a warm water enema about 4 cups of water. I lay on my right side and insert the water. After I take out the applicator I turn on my timer beside me for 5 minutes. I massage my stomach on my right side and then on my back and then over on my left side than back to the middle with my but lifted up in the air. Than I turn back over on my right side and wait until the timer goes off. I then go to the bathroom. Next I put the above coffee mixture into the bag making sure that it is warm as I can take it. Repeat the process as above rolling over on each side. Wait out the 5 minutes and then go to the bathroom. Then I do one more clear distilled water enema using about 5 cups of water. I do this because if it is late in the day the coffee enema will keep me awake or will sometimes cause cramping. Sometimes I do even another clear water one until I can get

the water fairly clear when I empty out. I know this is sort of gross but this is how my Doctor in Tucson taught me how to do it years ago when I spent a month at a Chronic Fatigue Clinic. Let me know if I can be of further help. Oh, if you don't own an enema bag you can get one at Walgreen's etc. However, the rubber will stink. I would rinse it out with hot water first before I use it and then after you use it set it out in the garage to out gas. After a while you will be able to store it in your bathroom. Blessings, Penni Re: Re: Penni Penni, LOL I hear you this brain fog is horrible and my vision out of my right eye it like way bad really. Penni I was going to ask you about Tom, when he got the bio-toxin. My brother -in-Law is very sick right now, he has a lot of the same symptoms that I have and more. He worked at this chemical company and worked with chemicals he said, almost made him faint on a daily basis handling it. He wore no mask

at all. He worked there for 3 years. SO time has went on and now 3 years later he is very sick right now he just got out of the hospital. Do you think there may be a link to his sickness maybe Bio-Toxin disease from chemicals he breathed in. Before the chemical company he did asbestos removal, then the chemicals, then he painted and worked at another job, which was a chemical. I wonder because we share almost all of the same symptoms, could he have gotten this and it just catch up with him from over the years exposures to chemical, paints, etc. He just got out of the hospital and they did all the test, its mysterious, nothing. He is like us all feels like He is gonna die he has a perfect match of my symptoms and some of his own. The hospital Dr.s found a lesion on his brain, they finally after a week of not knowing what it was said he had diverticulitis, I checked the symptoms for this and he doesn't even have any of the

symptoms. I am worried about him and wondered if you could tell me what kind of DR. your husband Tom seen when he discovered he had bio-toxins. It don't sound good for him, his colon is infected and the doctor's are wanting to operate and cut some of his intestines, etc. It is weird because he has the mysterious rash and all. Thanks for your support. Donna __________________________________________________

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Oh and by the way, it was Dr. Lance who first suggested coffee enemas to me. I thought he was off his rocker with that one! But, he was right. They work. PattyTricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: Hi Penni! Another coffee enema queen! I miss Tucson....lived there for over 20 years. What doctor did you see? My first naturopath was Dr. Lance . I really liked him. He was the first one to tell me that my breast implants were horrible

things to have in the human body. I was so grateful to finally hear a doctor say that, after going to other doctors who poo-poo'd the implant connection to my sudden symptoms. He worked with me over a period of months, first putting me on a fasting program, then juices; after that we tested for heavy metals toxicity, followed by amalgam removals and chelation therapy. He also started me on several herbal remedies, which he mixed for me right there in his office and gave to me in brown bottles with droppers. He was so nice. I'm glad I'm not alone in the coffee enema department! PattyPenni Pitre <penniquilts@...> wrote: Donna, It sounds to me like

your BIL has Multiple Chemical Sensitivies. I have had this problem for 26 years and it requires a big lifestyle change. As sick as he is I would start out on something very mild to detox such as a detox kit that Heel makes. I believe it has 3 or 4 bottles of different homeopathic remedies that you can add to water and than sip on all day. It's harmless and I don't even remember getting a headache from it but it is a starting point. I'm not sure where your BIL lives but Dr. Sherry is the expert on MCS. She lives and practices in NY. Otherwise I would recommend that your BIL go to see Dr. Rea in Dallas, Texas. My other suggestions for you and your BIL would be to buy Sherry book "Detoxify or Die". She has several books out but this book goes into detail about detox cocktails and the infra-red sauna. Another book that I would HIGHLY recommend for you and especially for your

BIL is "Our Toxic World" by Doris Rapp. Not only is it informative but has many many references as to where you can get help. Also I have done coffee enemas for years. I make 1 cup of STRONG organic coffee made with distilled water. I dilute this to 2 cups of distilled water. When I do enemas I do them this way. First I do just a warm water enema about 4 cups of water. I lay on my right side and insert the water. After I take out the applicator I turn on my timer beside me for 5 minutes. I massage my stomach on my right side and then on my back and then over on my left side than back to the middle with my but lifted up in the air. Than I turn back over on my right side and wait until the timer goes off. I then go to the bathroom. Next I put the above coffee mixture into the bag making sure that it is warm as I can take it. Repeat

the process as above rolling over on each side. Wait out the 5 minutes and then go to the bathroom. Then I do one more clear distilled water enema using about 5 cups of water. I do this because if it is late in the day the coffee enema will keep me awake or will sometimes cause cramping. Sometimes I do even another clear water one until I can get the water fairly clear when I empty out. I know this is sort of gross but this is how my Doctor in Tucson taught me how to do it years ago when I spent a month at a Chronic Fatigue Clinic. Let me know if I can be of further help. Oh, if you don't own an enema bag you can get one at Walgreen's etc. However, the rubber will stink. I would rinse it out with hot water first before I use it and then after you use it set it out in the garage to

out gas. After a while you will be able to store it in your bathroom. Blessings, Penni Re: Re: Penni Penni, LOL I hear you this brain fog is horrible and my

vision out of my right eye it like way bad really. Penni I was going to ask you about Tom, when he got the bio-toxin. My brother -in-Law is very sick right now, he has a lot of the same symptoms that I have and more. He worked at this chemical company and worked with chemicals he said, almost made him faint on a daily basis handling it. He wore no mask at all. He worked there for 3 years. SO time has went on and now 3 years later he is very sick right now he just got out of the hospital. Do you think there may be a link to his sickness maybe Bio-Toxin disease from chemicals he breathed in. Before the chemical company he did asbestos removal, then the chemicals, then he painted and worked at another job, which was a chemical. I wonder because we share almost all of the same symptoms, could he have gotten this and it just catch up with him from over the years exposures to chemical, paints, etc. He just got out of

the hospital and they did all the test, its mysterious, nothing. He is like us all feels like He is gonna die he has a perfect match of my symptoms and some of his own. The hospital Dr.s found a lesion on his brain, they finally after a week of not knowing what it was said he had diverticulitis, I checked the symptoms for this and he doesn't even have any of the symptoms. I am worried about him and wondered if you could tell me what kind of DR. your husband Tom seen when he discovered he had bio-toxins. It don't sound good for him, his colon is infected and the doctor's are wanting to operate and cut some of his intestines, etc. It is weird because he has the mysterious rash and all. Thanks for your support. Donna __________________________________________________

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Penni

thank you for sharing about detoxing and the organic coffee - I have

been doing that too. I don't know which part of my detox efforts

have been making me better, but I am so much better. I have decided

to continue all of my efforts, since something or all of them

together are helping. The Gerson method also recommends detoxing

the liver with the coffee enemas.

Cherie

>

> Donna,

>

> It sounds to me like your BIL has Multiple Chemical Sensitivies.

I have had this problem for 26 years and it requires a big lifestyle

change. As sick as he is I would start out on something very mild

to detox such as a detox kit that Heel makes. I believe it has 3 or

4 bottles of different homeopathic remedies that you can add to

water and than sip on all day. It's harmless and I don't even

remember getting a headache from it but it is a starting point. I'm

not sure where your BIL lives but Dr. Sherry is the expert on

MCS. She lives and practices in NY. Otherwise I would recommend

that your BIL go to see Dr. Rea in Dallas, Texas.

> My other suggestions for you and your BIL would be to buy Sherry

book " Detoxify or Die " . She has several books out but this

book goes into detail about detox cocktails and the infra-red

sauna. Another book that I would HIGHLY recommend for you and

especially for your BIL is " Our Toxic World " by Doris Rapp. Not

only is it informative but has many many references as to where you

can get help.

>

> Also I have done coffee enemas for years. I make 1 cup of STRONG

organic coffee made with distilled water. I dilute this to 2 cups

of distilled water. When I do enemas I do them this way. First I

do just a warm water enema about 4 cups of water. I lay on my right

side and insert the water. After I take out the applicator I turn

on my timer beside me for 5 minutes. I massage my stomach on my

right side and then on my back and then over on my left side than

back to the middle with my but lifted up in the air. Than I turn

back over on my right side and wait until the timer goes off. I

then go to the bathroom. Next I put the above coffee mixture into

the bag making sure that it is warm as I can take it. Repeat the

process as above rolling over on each side. Wait out the 5 minutes

and then go to the bathroom. Then I do one more clear distilled

water enema using about 5 cups of water. I do this because if it is

late in the day the coffee enema will keep me awake or will

sometimes cause cramping. Sometimes I do even another clear water

one until I can get the water fairly clear when I empty out. I know

this is sort of gross but this is how my Doctor in Tucson taught me

how to do it years ago when I spent a month at a Chronic Fatigue

Clinic.

>

> Let me know if I can be of further help.

>

> Oh, if you don't own an enema bag you can get one at Walgreen's

etc. However, the rubber will stink. I would rinse it out with hot

water first before I use it and then after you use it set it out in

the garage to out gas. After a while you will be able to store it

in your bathroom.

>

> Blessings,

> Penni

> Re: Re: Penni

>

>

> Penni,

>

> LOL I hear you this brain fog is horrible and my vision out of

my right eye it like way bad really. Penni I was going to ask you

about Tom, when he got the bio-toxin. My brother -in-Law is very

sick right now, he has a lot of the same symptoms that I have and

more. He worked at this chemical company and worked with chemicals

he said, almost made him faint on a daily basis handling it. He

wore no mask at all. He worked there for 3 years. SO time has went

on and now 3 years later he is very sick right now he just got out

of the hospital. Do you think there may be a link to his sickness

maybe Bio-Toxin disease from chemicals he breathed in. Before the

chemical company he did asbestos removal, then the chemicals, then

he painted and worked at another job, which was a chemical. I

wonder because we share almost all of the same symptoms, could he

have gotten this and it just catch up with him from over the years

exposures to chemical, paints, etc. He just got out of the hospital

and they did all the test, its mysterious, nothing. He is like us

all feels like He is gonna die he has a perfect match of my symptoms

and some of his own. The hospital Dr.s found a lesion on his brain,

they finally after a week of not knowing what it was said he had

diverticulitis, I checked the symptoms for this and he doesn't even

have any of the symptoms. I am worried about him and wondered if

you could tell me what kind of DR. your husband Tom seen when he

discovered he had bio-toxins. It don't sound good for him, his

colon is infected and the doctor's are wanting to operate and cut

some of his intestines, etc. It is weird because he has the

mysterious rash and all. Thanks for your support.

>

> Donna

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician

or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

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Cherie,

Your most welcome. It's really confusing finding what works for one. I'm always willing to share.

Blessings,

Penni

Re: Re: Penni> > > Penni,> > LOL I hear you this brain fog is horrible and my vision out of my right eye it like way bad really. Penni I was going to ask you about Tom, when he got the bio-toxin. My brother -in-Law is very sick right now, he has a lot of the same symptoms that I have and more. He worked at this chemical company and worked with chemicals he said, almost made him faint on a daily basis handling it. He wore no mask at all. He worked there for 3 years. SO time has went on and now 3 years later he is very sick right now he just got out of the hospital. Do you think there may be a link to his sickness maybe Bio-Toxin disease from chemicals he breathed in. Before the chemical company he did asbestos removal, then the chemicals, then he painted and worked at another job, which was a chemical. I wonder because we share almost all of the same symptoms, could he have gotten this and it just catch up with him from over the years exposures to chemical, paints, etc. He just got out of the hospital and they did all the test, its mysterious, nothing. He is like us all feels like He is gonna die he has a perfect match of my symptoms and some of his own. The hospital Dr.s found a lesion on his brain, they finally after a week of not knowing what it was said he had diverticulitis, I checked the symptoms for this and he doesn't even have any of the symptoms. I am worried about him and wondered if you could tell me what kind of DR. your husband Tom seen when he discovered he had bio-toxins. It don't sound good for him, his colon is infected and the doctor's are wanting to operate and cut some of his intestines, etc. It is weird because he has the mysterious rash and all. Thanks for your support.> > Donna> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > See our photos website! Enter "implants" for access at this link:> http://.shutterfly.com/action/> >

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