Re: Asthma-Mycotoxins-Albuterol

November 27, 2006

I cant use advair. Makes my heart race out of my chest. Dr. didnt question

just told me to stop it.

November 27, 2006

My daughter is also asthmatic. We have had learn how to control her asthma thru

diet and avoidance of bad IAQ. She was prescribed by a leading physician

Albuterol & Advair. To be used together. I questioned him: since this is the

1st meds she has gotten for her asthma why not just start w/one? He said it was

so severe that she needed both. I questioned again about side effects. He said

that she would experience none, except maybe a slight headache, and nausea until

she got used to them. Well, I decided to do it my way and just start

w/Albuterol. Yes, she got the headache/nausea. The 2nd night I decided to use

them both as instructed as she was having a mild asthma attack. Upon taking the

Advair she instantly stopped breathing, started to turn blue. Then came back

w/in seconds. I called the Drs. office he said that doesn't happen, I waited to

long. I explained she had this condition for a couple of years and nothing like

this had ever happened. He told me to follow the instructions. There were NO

side effects like that. So, the next night we proceeded to use it as he had

instructed. Again, immed. after the Advair she stopped breathing, lips turning

blue. As I was picking up the phone to call 911 she started to breath again.

So, I decided to research it myself. Sure enough Advair has been reported to

stop breathing, and some have even died. Well, I took her off of it. I do keep

the Albuterol in the house just in case. But, she has not used it for a year.

If we control her diet/exercise/IAQ she has NO problems. All she gets now is a

cough every once in a blue moon, but her breathing is alot better.

Ever since exposure she has had problems w/ALL medications making her sick, even

Motrin, Tylenol. Before she never had this problem. They have given her a tiny

dissolving pill (for chemo patients) that helps her not puke that one is

alright. But, I often wonder if after exposure w/the body being on overload if

the body rejects medication. Many have posted having problems w/meds. Alot

w/asthma meds, some had no problems before but now can't take them. Is your

body trying to tell you " yuk, something else I don't like? " We were never

really big on meds., but sometimes you do need them. But, for some reason some

peoples bodies don't want them. Just my thoughts.

[] Asthma-Mycotoxins-Albuterol

I'm 63 years old, and an asthmatic since age 9. My first mycotoxin

reaction was 7 years ago. Here is the relationship between asthma-

mycotoxins-albuterol, in my body. (1) My asthma reaction to mold and

my toxic mold reaction are two different things, that usually co-

exist in my body, at the same time. (2) As a long time asthmatic, I

misinterpreted my first toxic mold reaction as being an asthmatic

reaction. (3) Upon my seeing the massive amount of mold, in the

building I worked in, I realized the physical feeling that I was

dying, came from my exposure to the mold. At THAT time, I assumed

that I was allergic to the mold, and my allergy was causing asthma,

even though I was experiencing additional symptoms that I had never

in my life had before. (4) BEFORE I saw the mold, and quit the job,

I had been taking an ever increasing dose of albuterol (never

exceeding the maximum dosage in the Physicians PDR Manual). But, to

my amazement, the albuterol only PARTIALLY relieved my breathing

symptoms, and did NOTHING for the other symptoms I was experiencing,

no matter how high I raised my dosage. (5) Since I had not had ANY

non-breathing related symptoms, before I started working in that

building, one month previously, I went searching for the mold, which

I found, in my work building. In hindsight, I should have just left

the building, WITHOUT searching for the mold. This is why my blood

boils, when I read all the postings on this board of people

SEARCHING for their mold. WAKE UP! You don't have to find your mold-

IT HAS ALREADY FOUND YOU!!!! Just run away fast. (6) After leaving

my mold infested workplace, I began feeling my symptoms begin

getting better within 4 or 5 days, and after about one month, all of

my non-breathing symptoms had disappeared, and my asthma breathing

symptoms had returned to their traditional level for that season of

the year. As it was summer, and pollen allergies are one of my

primary asthma triggers, I always have breathing problems at that

time of the year. But, as usual, for that time of the year, my

abuterol NOW relieved my breathing symptoms 100%, until my next

regular dose of albuterol had to be taken. REMEMBER, my total time

period of mold exposure was only 8 to 10 hours a day, 5 days a week,

for 30 days. (7) The point I'm making, is, if you have a pre-

existing asthma condition BEFORE your mold exposure, the asthma will

become WORSE during your period of mold exposure. The " non-mold-

aware " medical professionals will try to use that worsening of your

asthma, to convince you that ALL YOU HAVE IS ASTHMA! To do this,

they will tell you to take the Methacholine Challenge Test, that has

been the subject of many postings on this board. If you had a pre-

mold exposure asthma condition, this test will confirm their

diagnosis, and when you tell them that you have a toxic mold

reaction, in addition to your asthma, they will enter a further

notation, that you are " delusional " on your medical record. (8) If

you did NOT have a pre-existing asthma condition, BEFORE your mold

exposure, the same test is equally pointless, as the conventional

medical treatment for asthma-caused breathing problems and non-

asthma caused breathing problems, is THE SAME. The treatment of

acute breathing distress is albuterol with atrovent(ipratropium

bromide) added on if the problem includes phlegm in your lungs. And,

if that fails, they add on prednisone. Prednisone is the doctor's

way of saying: " I have no idea of what is causing your immune system

to malfunction, so lets just turn off your body's immune-reaction,

completely, with prednisone. " Don't misunderstand me. THE PREDNISONE

DOES WORK. But, if you are still in the mold environment, after the

prednisone wears off, you get sick again. (9) Since I like happy

endings, I will share my happy ending with you all. My recurring

mold exposures, over the last 7 years, have turned me into such a

compulsive, mold hunter, mold finder, and mold eliminator, in my

home environment, that, in the process of making my home as mold-

free as possible, I have also made my home so allergen-free, that my

albuterol dosage requirements are at an all time low. Start throwing

things out, and feeling healthier, as an asthmatic. (10) One last

thing. Please stop posting the false notion that exposure to mold

will help us build up an immunity to mold. I'm getting tired of

punching my wall, every time I read that. Thank you, and may you all

find your happy endings.

Joe

November 27, 2006

>

> (10) One last

> thing. Please stop posting the false notion that exposure to mold

> will help us build up an immunity to mold. I'm getting tired of

> punching my wall, every time I read that. Thank you, and may you

all

> find your happy endings.

> Joe

>

ME TOO!

p.s. I have asthma type illness from my mold exposure and no

inhalents do a thing for me and because I have mcs i actually have a

bad reaction to inhalents.

i to am getting burnt out on others, not so ill, trying to force

thier beliefs in this group. just because you haven't been there does

not mean it doesn't exsist. part of knowledge about mold illness is

understanding how differently we all can be affected, not baseing

your beliefs just on your experience. if anything, those not so

affected YET should wise up and listen to those more affected and

take it as a warning of what could happen to them. also they should

realize that it takes awhile after getting completely away from thier

exposure for the full affects of thier illness to show up, so until

they quit exposeing thierselfs they are not even going to know the

extent of what has happened to them, plus they probably dont even

realize that they may not even be thinking very clearly and

shouldn't,during this time be tring to force thier opinions on anyone.

November 27, 2006

Good thoughts.

What we all need to remember is that there are " oldies " & " newbie's " here.

Sometimes newbie's are in denial, don't have a clear understanding of the

" whole " picture, still trying to figure it out. Have never been faced

w/something that is making them sick and no one can help. I am not a newbie,

have clear understanding, and still struggled with the whole MCS thing. I was

fixated on mold being the only trigger. But, then in time it clicked. Now I

get it. But, it took time. But, I never argued, see I wanted to learn. It helps

to have the " whole " picture and use it. Some will, some won't. Some will get

better, some won't.

Yes, it is very irritating to hear someone tell us things that contradict

everything and everyone else. Sometimes they are in a denial phase, hoping

someone will tell them they are correct. I think they don't realize how hurtful

and aggravating it can be the oldies who do know. For them to come in here

spoutting off things that don't even make sense, are no one has ever heard.

Yes, it is irritating for someone to ask for help-then you help them, then they

argue and tell what they have come up with. Even though there is NOTHING there

to support it. They don't understand that we all react differently. Then when

you factor in MCS that is whole different story about triggers and reaction.

I think all of you here do a wonderful job helping others. There is always

going that one special person who just isn't going to believe, or get it. That

one person who knows things that no one else does, and tries to force them on

us, that one person who has all the answers but no proof to back it up. We can

try to help. But, if they are not going to get it and argue the facts then

maybe it's best if we all stick together. This board is set up to help those

willing to be helped, those that want help, and need our help, along w/helping

ourselves. People who are very ill from exposure and need to find answers.

Victims who know nothing about MCS and how it effects you after exposure. We

should be trying to help those victims that need it, not using every ounce of

energy on someone who that doesn't really want it.

We are blessed to have each other. To have Sharon, KC, Carl, and all of us. To

be able to get help, knowledge, advice. If someone doesn't want it then just

let them be. Because if they have really been exposed, are really sick, really

re-act, and so forth. One day they will come openly and listen to ALL of the

knowledge we have here, and will accept it openly, and maybe be able to make

themselves better.

My family wouldn't be better, my daughter wouldn't have made it without all of

you. For this I thank god everyday. I learned about MCS here, about overload,

about a " safe " home. Everything I have learned here, keeps my family safe.

Thank you all.

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