Re: neti pot and sorbic orithrush D question

[Guest guest]

Hi, The label says that Orithush D has sorbic acid in it.

What is sorbic acid? It was not in Wikipedia.

Which formula did your doctor day...the regular or the

douche formula for rinsing the nose with the neti pot?

I have sinus problems since packing out my mom's wet house

2 years ago. I've just been using salt in my neti pot.

Maybe I need to add something new.

Thanks,

Jocelyn

>>>I've also added orithrush-D to my neti pot rinse

[Guest guest]

whats a neti pot?

Janet

[Guest guest]

Hi Jocelyn,

I am not sure what you mean by regular or douche solution. Could you explain

the difference? I use the neti pot every day. I use a solution made of salt and

baking soda. I just read a suggestion that said to add hydrogen peroxide - so I

have been doing that every couple of days. It seems to really clear things out.

take care,

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I, too neti everyday and my mold doc has me using Orithrush, 2 tsp per potful.

Madeska <madeskv@...> wrote:

Hi Jocelyn,

I am not sure what you mean by regular or douche solution. Could you explain the

difference? I use the neti pot every day. I use a solution made of salt and

baking soda. I just read a suggestion that said to add hydrogen peroxide - so I

have been doing that every couple of days. It seems to really clear things out.

take care,

[Guest guest]

I use Nizoral nasal spray that I get from Dr. Marinkovich. I don't have

sinus problems. I use it when I have been exposed to something, somewhere and

I

feel fuzzy headed.

My daughter, who has had 6 sinus surgeries uses this, too. Along with a

nasal lavage system (looks like a water pic for the nose). Since adding the

Nizoral to her regime, she has not required surgery. Her sinuses are staying

clear.

My sister has no sinus problems either, but she gets a cough and a tickle

that makes her have to clear her throat alot. She uses the Nizoral, too. It

takes care of her situation in about 10 minutes.

I think there is much to the ancient Yoga practices of keeping the sinuses

clean in order to promote health from many aspects.

Sharon

Nope. You use it staight out of the bottle. It burns a bit, be warned. But

Dr Marinkovich swears by it and doesn't want me to ever run out. I would say

because he recommends it so highly and is an allergist and mold/fungus expert

that it would be highly unlikely to bother those of us that are so sensitive.

I know I'm one of them.

who <_jeaninem660@jeaninem66jea_ (mailto:jeaninem660@...) > wrote:

-those neti'sare pretty neat,might have to get one. i just have a

sinus washer from the mayo clinic, about this orithrush d, you have

to boil it in distilled water first to desolve it? is it safe for

chemical sensative people? i would love a miricle for my sinuses,

they are so dry and heat is causeing a lot of sinus headackes. can i

get this at a herb store?-- In _@ic_

(mailto: ) , Edy

Rayfield <edyrayfield@edy> wrote:

>

> Here ya go Jocelyn, it's used in food as an antifungal and

antibacterial. Should do the same for your nose, yes? My mold doc

seems to think so I believe he mixes his own up in double distilled

water.

>

> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

> Jump to: navigation, search

> Sorbic acid Chemical name (E,E)-2,4-Hexadieno

acid Chemical formula C6H8O2 Molecular mass 112.12 g/mol

CAS number [110-44-1] Melting point 135 °C Boiling point 228

°C (dec) SMILES CC=CC=CC(O)O Disclaimer and references

>

> Sometimes confused with ascorbic acid, Vitamin C Sorbic acid,

or 2,4-hexadienoic acid, is a natural organic compound used as a food

preservative. It has the chemical formula C6H8O2. It was first

isolated from the unripe berries of the rowan (Sorbus aucuparia),

hence its name.

> Sorbic acid and its mineral salts, such as sodium sorbate,

potassium sorbate and calcium sorbate, are antimicrobial agents often

used as preservatives in food and drinks to prevent the growth of

mold, yeast and fungi. In general the salts are preferred over the

acid form because they are more soluble in water. The optimal pH for

the antimicrobial activity is below pH 6.5 and sorbates are generally

used at concentrations of 0.025% to 0.10%. Adding sorbate salts to

food will however raise the pH of the food slightly so the pH may

need to be adjusted to assure safety.

> Sorbic acid should not be confused with other chemically

unrelated, but similarly named food additives sorbitol, polysorbate,

and ascorbic acid (Vitamin C).

> The E numbers are:

>

> E200 Sorbic acid

> E201 Sodium sorbate

> E202 Potassium sorbate

> E203 Calcium sorbate

> Some molds (notably some Trichoderma and Penicillium strains) and

yeasts are able to detoxify sorbates by decarboxylation, producing

trans-1,3-pentadientrans-1,3-pentadien<WBR>e. The pentadiene manifests a

kerosene or petroleum. Other detoxification reactions include

reduction to 4-hexenol and 4-hexenoic acid. [1]

>

>

> Jocelyn E Brown <brownje@...> wrote:

> Hi, The label says that Orithush D has sorbic acid in it.

> What is sorbic acid? It was not in Wikipedia.

>

> Which formula did your doctor day...the regular or the

> douche formula for rinsing the nose with the neti pot?

>

> I have sinus problems since packing out my mom's wet house

> 2 years ago. I've just been using salt in my neti pot.

> Maybe I need to add something new.

>

> Thanks,

> Jocelyn

[Guest guest]

Here ya go Jocelyn, it's used in food as an antifungal and antibacterial.

Should do the same for your nose, yes? My mold doc seems to think so I believe

he mixes his own up in double distilled water.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jump to: navigation, search

Sorbic acid Chemical name (E,E)-2,4-Hexadienoic acid

Chemical formula C6H8O2 Molecular mass 112.12 g/mol CAS number

[110-44-1] Melting point 135 °C Boiling point 228 °C (dec) SMILES

CC=CC=CC(O)O Disclaimer and references

Sometimes confused with ascorbic acid, Vitamin C Sorbic acid, or

2,4-hexadienoic acid, is a natural organic compound used as a food preservative.

It has the chemical formula C6H8O2. It was first isolated from the unripe

berries of the rowan (Sorbus aucuparia), hence its name.

Sorbic acid and its mineral salts, such as sodium sorbate, potassium sorbate

and calcium sorbate, are antimicrobial agents often used as preservatives in

food and drinks to prevent the growth of mold, yeast and fungi. In general the

salts are preferred over the acid form because they are more soluble in water.

The optimal pH for the antimicrobial activity is below pH 6.5 and sorbates are

generally used at concentrations of 0.025% to 0.10%. Adding sorbate salts to

food will however raise the pH of the food slightly so the pH may need to be

adjusted to assure safety.

Sorbic acid should not be confused with other chemically unrelated, but

similarly named food additives sorbitol, polysorbate, and ascorbic acid (Vitamin

C).

The E numbers are:

E200 Sorbic acid

E201 Sodium sorbate

E202 Potassium sorbate

E203 Calcium sorbate

Some molds (notably some Trichoderma and Penicillium strains) and yeasts are

able to detoxify sorbates by decarboxylation, producing trans-1,3-pentadiene.

The pentadiene manifests as a typical odor of kerosene or petroleum. Other

detoxification reactions include reduction to 4-hexenol and 4-hexenoic acid. [1]

Jocelyn E Brown <brownje@...> wrote:

Hi, The label says that Orithush D has sorbic acid in it.

What is sorbic acid? It was not in Wikipedia.

Which formula did your doctor day...the regular or the

douche formula for rinsing the nose with the neti pot?

I have sinus problems since packing out my mom's wet house

2 years ago. I've just been using salt in my neti pot.

Maybe I need to add something new.

Thanks,

Jocelyn

>>>I've also added orithrush-D to my neti pot rinse

[Guest guest]

Janet,

A neti pot is a small pot that looks a bit like Alladin's lamp. It holds

about a cup of water which you add 1/4 tsp salt to and whatever else you want to

fight buggers in your nose with. Google Neti Pot and you'll see a zillion of

them. If you have any fungal nasal issues it's a miracle. I gave one to a

surfer friend of mine that was constantly getting sinus infections from all the

water and now has none anymore by using it daily.

Gingersnap1964@... wrote:

whats a neti pot?

Janet

[Guest guest]

Jocelyn,

You can buy this product, Orithrush D from Ecological Formulas and it's fairly

inexpensive. Just google Ecological Formulas and you'll find it.

Jocelyn E Brown <brownje@...> wrote:

Hi, The label says that Orithush D has sorbic acid in it.

What is sorbic acid? It was not in Wikipedia.

Which formula did your doctor day...the regular or the

douche formula for rinsing the nose with the neti pot?

I have sinus problems since packing out my mom's wet house

2 years ago. I've just been using salt in my neti pot.

Maybe I need to add something new.

Thanks,

Jocelyn

>>>I've also added orithrush-D to my neti pot rinse

[Guest guest]

-this sounds very interesting, i use canning salt and distilled water

to wash my sinuses, it helps a lot but i need something more. the

innfectious disease doctors said yes, this is just the same as useing

saline. how ever it is so painful to do and i often have to lean way

back and get it way up in there, my eyes water and it burns big time.

i'm going to check into this, thanks for posting about it.-- In

, Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@...> wrote:

>

> Here ya go Jocelyn, it's used in food as an antifungal and

antibacterial. Should do the same for your nose, yes? My mold doc

seems to think so I believe he mixes his own up in double distilled

water.

>

> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

> Jump to: navigation, search

> Sorbic acid Chemical name (E,E)-2,4-Hexadienoic

acid Chemical formula C6H8O2 Molecular mass 112.12 g/mol

CAS number [110-44-1] Melting point 135 °C Boiling point 228

°C (dec) SMILES CC=CC=CC(O)O Disclaimer and references

>

> Sometimes confused with ascorbic acid, Vitamin C Sorbic acid,

or 2,4-hexadienoic acid, is a natural organic compound used as a food

preservative. It has the chemical formula C6H8O2. It was first

isolated from the unripe berries of the rowan (Sorbus aucuparia),

hence its name.

> Sorbic acid and its mineral salts, such as sodium sorbate,

potassium sorbate and calcium sorbate, are antimicrobial agents often

used as preservatives in food and drinks to prevent the growth of

mold, yeast and fungi. In general the salts are preferred over the

acid form because they are more soluble in water. The optimal pH for

the antimicrobial activity is below pH 6.5 and sorbates are generally

used at concentrations of 0.025% to 0.10%. Adding sorbate salts to

food will however raise the pH of the food slightly so the pH may

need to be adjusted to assure safety.

> Sorbic acid should not be confused with other chemically

unrelated, but similarly named food additives sorbitol, polysorbate,

and ascorbic acid (Vitamin C).

> The E numbers are:

>

> E200 Sorbic acid

> E201 Sodium sorbate

> E202 Potassium sorbate

> E203 Calcium sorbate

> Some molds (notably some Trichoderma and Penicillium strains) and

yeasts are able to detoxify sorbates by decarboxylation, producing

trans-1,3-pentadiene. The pentadiene manifests as a typical odor of

kerosene or petroleum. Other detoxification reactions include

reduction to 4-hexenol and 4-hexenoic acid. [1]

>

>

> Jocelyn E Brown <brownje@...> wrote:

> Hi, The label says that Orithush D has sorbic acid in it.

> What is sorbic acid? It was not in Wikipedia.

>

> Which formula did your doctor day...the regular or the

> douche formula for rinsing the nose with the neti pot?

>

> I have sinus problems since packing out my mom's wet house

> 2 years ago. I've just been using salt in my neti pot.

> Maybe I need to add something new.

>

> Thanks,

> Jocelyn

>

> >>>I've also added orithrush-D to my neti pot rinse

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

-am i understanding that you wash your sinuses with this or is it just

boiled in a pan on the stove. is this neti pot one of those plug in

pots thats gets warm and releases contents in the air?-- In

, Madeska <madeskv@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Jocelyn,

>

> I am not sure what you mean by regular or douche solution. Could

you explain the difference? I use the neti pot every day. I use a

solution made of salt and baking soda. I just read a suggestion that

said to add hydrogen peroxide - so I have been doing that every couple

of days. It seems to really clear things out.

>

> take care,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

-those neti'sare pretty neat,might have to get one. i just have a

sinus washer from the mayo clinic, about this orithrush d, you have

to boil it in distilled water first to desolve it? is it safe for

chemical sensative people? i would love a miricle for my sinuses,

they are so dry and heat is causeing a lot of sinus headackes. can i

get this at a herb store?-- In , Edy

Rayfield <edyrayfield@...> wrote:

>

> Here ya go Jocelyn, it's used in food as an antifungal and

antibacterial. Should do the same for your nose, yes? My mold doc

seems to think so I believe he mixes his own up in double distilled

water.

>

> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

> Jump to: navigation, search

> Sorbic acid Chemical name (E,E)-2,4-Hexadienoic

acid Chemical formula C6H8O2 Molecular mass 112.12 g/mol

CAS number [110-44-1] Melting point 135 °C Boiling point 228

°C (dec) SMILES CC=CC=CC(O)O Disclaimer and references

>

> Sometimes confused with ascorbic acid, Vitamin C Sorbic acid,

or 2,4-hexadienoic acid, is a natural organic compound used as a food

preservative. It has the chemical formula C6H8O2. It was first

isolated from the unripe berries of the rowan (Sorbus aucuparia),

hence its name.

> Sorbic acid and its mineral salts, such as sodium sorbate,

potassium sorbate and calcium sorbate, are antimicrobial agents often

used as preservatives in food and drinks to prevent the growth of

mold, yeast and fungi. In general the salts are preferred over the

acid form because they are more soluble in water. The optimal pH for

the antimicrobial activity is below pH 6.5 and sorbates are generally

used at concentrations of 0.025% to 0.10%. Adding sorbate salts to

food will however raise the pH of the food slightly so the pH may

need to be adjusted to assure safety.

> Sorbic acid should not be confused with other chemically

unrelated, but similarly named food additives sorbitol, polysorbate,

and ascorbic acid (Vitamin C).

> The E numbers are:

>

> E200 Sorbic acid

> E201 Sodium sorbate

> E202 Potassium sorbate

> E203 Calcium sorbate

> Some molds (notably some Trichoderma and Penicillium strains) and

yeasts are able to detoxify sorbates by decarboxylation, producing

trans-1,3-pentadiene. The pentadiene manifests as a typical odor of

kerosene or petroleum. Other detoxification reactions include

reduction to 4-hexenol and 4-hexenoic acid. [1]

>

>

> Jocelyn E Brown <brownje@...> wrote:

> Hi, The label says that Orithush D has sorbic acid in it.

> What is sorbic acid? It was not in Wikipedia.

>

> Which formula did your doctor day...the regular or the

> douche formula for rinsing the nose with the neti pot?

>

> I have sinus problems since packing out my mom's wet house

> 2 years ago. I've just been using salt in my neti pot.

> Maybe I need to add something new.

>

> Thanks,

> Jocelyn

>

> >>>I've also added orithrush-D to my neti pot rinse

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Nope. You use it staight out of the bottle. It burns a bit, be warned. But Dr

Marinkovich swears by it and doesn't want me to ever run out. I would say

because he recommends it so highly and is an allergist and mold/fungus expert

that it would be highly unlikely to bother those of us that are so sensitive. I

know I'm one of them.

who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: -those neti'sare pretty

neat,might have to get one. i just have a

sinus washer from the mayo clinic, about this orithrush d, you have

to boil it in distilled water first to desolve it? is it safe for

chemical sensative people? i would love a miricle for my sinuses,

they are so dry and heat is causeing a lot of sinus headackes. can i

get this at a herb store?-- In , Edy

Rayfield <edyrayfield@...> wrote:

>

> Here ya go Jocelyn, it's used in food as an antifungal and

antibacterial. Should do the same for your nose, yes? My mold doc

seems to think so I believe he mixes his own up in double distilled

water.

>

> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

> Jump to: navigation, search

> Sorbic acid Chemical name (E,E)-2,4-Hexadienoic

acid Chemical formula C6H8O2 Molecular mass 112.12 g/mol

CAS number [110-44-1] Melting point 135 °C Boiling point 228

°C (dec) SMILES CC=CC=CC(O)O Disclaimer and references

>

> Sometimes confused with ascorbic acid, Vitamin C Sorbic acid,

or 2,4-hexadienoic acid, is a natural organic compound used as a food

preservative. It has the chemical formula C6H8O2. It was first

isolated from the unripe berries of the rowan (Sorbus aucuparia),

hence its name.

> Sorbic acid and its mineral salts, such as sodium sorbate,

potassium sorbate and calcium sorbate, are antimicrobial agents often

used as preservatives in food and drinks to prevent the growth of

mold, yeast and fungi. In general the salts are preferred over the

acid form because they are more soluble in water. The optimal pH for

the antimicrobial activity is below pH 6.5 and sorbates are generally

used at concentrations of 0.025% to 0.10%. Adding sorbate salts to

food will however raise the pH of the food slightly so the pH may

need to be adjusted to assure safety.

> Sorbic acid should not be confused with other chemically

unrelated, but similarly named food additives sorbitol, polysorbate,

and ascorbic acid (Vitamin C).

> The E numbers are:

>

> E200 Sorbic acid

> E201 Sodium sorbate

> E202 Potassium sorbate

> E203 Calcium sorbate

> Some molds (notably some Trichoderma and Penicillium strains) and

yeasts are able to detoxify sorbates by decarboxylation, producing

trans-1,3-pentadiene. The pentadiene manifests as a typical odor of

kerosene or petroleum. Other detoxification reactions include

reduction to 4-hexenol and 4-hexenoic acid. [1]

>

>

> Jocelyn E Brown <brownje@...> wrote:

> Hi, The label says that Orithush D has sorbic acid in it.

> What is sorbic acid? It was not in Wikipedia.

>

> Which formula did your doctor day...the regular or the

> douche formula for rinsing the nose with the neti pot?

>

> I have sinus problems since packing out my mom's wet house

> 2 years ago. I've just been using salt in my neti pot.

> Maybe I need to add something new.

>

> Thanks,

> Jocelyn

>

> >>>I've also added orithrush-D to my neti pot rinse

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The neti pot is like a ceramic little alladin lamp type thing. You use warm

water out of the tap or heat water if you use bottled. Google them and take a

look. Fill the pot, it takes about a cup of water,then you hold your head over

a sink and put the open end of it in one nostril, let all the liquid flow

through, then repeat in the other nostril then blow. Sometimes it's amazing

what comes out! Especially if you have a sinus infection or cold.

who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: -am i understanding that you

wash your sinuses with this or is it just

boiled in a pan on the stove. is this neti pot one of those plug in

pots thats gets warm and releases contents in the air?-- In

, Madeska <madeskv@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Jocelyn,

>

> I am not sure what you mean by regular or douche solution. Could

you explain the difference? I use the neti pot every day. I use a

solution made of salt and baking soda. I just read a suggestion that

said to add hydrogen peroxide - so I have been doing that every couple

of days. It seems to really clear things out.

>

> take care,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

How I get around the burning is breathing like in labor. Very soon the burning

passes and the second half of the run is just fine. The burning is over very

quickly and worth it.

who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: -this sounds very interesting, i

use canning salt and distilled water

to wash my sinuses, it helps a lot but i need something more. the

innfectious disease doctors said yes, this is just the same as useing

saline. how ever it is so painful to do and i often have to lean way

back and get it way up in there, my eyes water and it burns big time.

i'm going to check into this, thanks for posting about it.-- In

, Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@...> wrote:

>

> Here ya go Jocelyn, it's used in food as an antifungal and

antibacterial. Should do the same for your nose, yes? My mold doc

seems to think so I believe he mixes his own up in double distilled

water.

>

> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

> Jump to: navigation, search

> Sorbic acid Chemical name (E,E)-2,4-Hexadienoic

acid Chemical formula C6H8O2 Molecular mass 112.12 g/mol

CAS number [110-44-1] Melting point 135 °C Boiling point 228

°C (dec) SMILES CC=CC=CC(O)O Disclaimer and references

>

> Sometimes confused with ascorbic acid, Vitamin C Sorbic acid,

or 2,4-hexadienoic acid, is a natural organic compound used as a food

preservative. It has the chemical formula C6H8O2. It was first

isolated from the unripe berries of the rowan (Sorbus aucuparia),

hence its name.

> Sorbic acid and its mineral salts, such as sodium sorbate,

potassium sorbate and calcium sorbate, are antimicrobial agents often

used as preservatives in food and drinks to prevent the growth of

mold, yeast and fungi. In general the salts are preferred over the

acid form because they are more soluble in water. The optimal pH for

the antimicrobial activity is below pH 6.5 and sorbates are generally

used at concentrations of 0.025% to 0.10%. Adding sorbate salts to

food will however raise the pH of the food slightly so the pH may

need to be adjusted to assure safety.

> Sorbic acid should not be confused with other chemically

unrelated, but similarly named food additives sorbitol, polysorbate,

and ascorbic acid (Vitamin C).

> The E numbers are:

>

> E200 Sorbic acid

> E201 Sodium sorbate

> E202 Potassium sorbate

> E203 Calcium sorbate

> Some molds (notably some Trichoderma and Penicillium strains) and

yeasts are able to detoxify sorbates by decarboxylation, producing

trans-1,3-pentadiene. The pentadiene manifests as a typical odor of

kerosene or petroleum. Other detoxification reactions include

reduction to 4-hexenol and 4-hexenoic acid. [1]

>

>

> Jocelyn E Brown <brownje@...> wrote:

> Hi, The label says that Orithush D has sorbic acid in it.

> What is sorbic acid? It was not in Wikipedia.

>

> Which formula did your doctor day...the regular or the

> douche formula for rinsing the nose with the neti pot?

>

> I have sinus problems since packing out my mom's wet house

> 2 years ago. I've just been using salt in my neti pot.

> Maybe I need to add something new.

>

> Thanks,

> Jocelyn

>

> >>>I've also added orithrush-D to my neti pot rinse

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My sinuses hurt when I use a neti pot. Has anyone experienced that?

I have done a few successful ones but I kind of started to avoid them

due to pain. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong. It seems like

pressure of water on sinuses hurts.

--- In , Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@...>

wrote:

>

> Here ya go Jocelyn, it's used in food as an antifungal and

antibacterial. Should do the same for your nose, yes? My mold doc

seems to think so I believe he mixes his own up in double distilled

water.

[Guest guest]

Why do you need to continually take it? If it solves a problem, you

would think problem would disappear. How many times a day do you need

to do this?

--- In , Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@...>

wrote:

>

> Nope. You use it staight out of the bottle. It burns a bit, be

warned. But Dr Marinkovich swears by it and doesn't want me to ever

run out. I would say because he recommends it so highly and is an

allergist and mold/fungus expert that it would be highly unlikely to

bother those of us that are so sensitive. I know I'm one of them.

>

>

[Guest guest]

You can get a neti pot at Walgreens but the one they had there was

hard plastic. My health food store is where I bought mine and it is

ceramic one.

>

> -those neti'sare pretty neat,might have to get one. i just have a

> sinus washer from the mayo clinic, about this orithrush d, you have

>

[Guest guest]

-it's kindof expencive. 8oz. for $12.00 do you dilute this any?-- In

, Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@...> wrote:

>

> How I get around the burning is breathing like in labor. Very soon

the burning passes and the second half of the run is just fine. The

burning is over very quickly and worth it.

>

> who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: -this sounds very

interesting, i use canning salt and distilled water

> to wash my sinuses, it helps a lot but i need something more. the

> innfectious disease doctors said yes, this is just the same as

useing

> saline. how ever it is so painful to do and i often have to lean

way

> back and get it way up in there, my eyes water and it burns big

time.

> i'm going to check into this, thanks for posting about it.-- In

> , Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@> wrote:

> >

> > Here ya go Jocelyn, it's used in food as an antifungal and

> antibacterial. Should do the same for your nose, yes? My mold doc

> seems to think so I believe he mixes his own up in double distilled

> water.

> >

> > From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

> > Jump to: navigation, search

> > Sorbic acid Chemical name (E,E)-2,4-Hexadienoic

> acid Chemical formula C6H8O2 Molecular mass 112.12 g/mol

> CAS number [110-44-1] Melting point 135 °C Boiling point 228

> °C (dec) SMILES CC=CC=CC(O)O Disclaimer and references

> >

> > Sometimes confused with ascorbic acid, Vitamin C Sorbic acid,

> or 2,4-hexadienoic acid, is a natural organic compound used as a

food

> preservative. It has the chemical formula C6H8O2. It was first

> isolated from the unripe berries of the rowan (Sorbus aucuparia),

> hence its name.

> > Sorbic acid and its mineral salts, such as sodium sorbate,

> potassium sorbate and calcium sorbate, are antimicrobial agents

often

> used as preservatives in food and drinks to prevent the growth of

> mold, yeast and fungi. In general the salts are preferred over the

> acid form because they are more soluble in water. The optimal pH

for

> the antimicrobial activity is below pH 6.5 and sorbates are

generally

> used at concentrations of 0.025% to 0.10%. Adding sorbate salts to

> food will however raise the pH of the food slightly so the pH may

> need to be adjusted to assure safety.

> > Sorbic acid should not be confused with other chemically

> unrelated, but similarly named food additives sorbitol,

polysorbate,

> and ascorbic acid (Vitamin C).

> > The E numbers are:

> >

> > E200 Sorbic acid

> > E201 Sodium sorbate

> > E202 Potassium sorbate

> > E203 Calcium sorbate

> > Some molds (notably some Trichoderma and Penicillium strains) and

> yeasts are able to detoxify sorbates by decarboxylation, producing

> trans-1,3-pentadiene. The pentadiene manifests as a typical odor of

> kerosene or petroleum. Other detoxification reactions include

> reduction to 4-hexenol and 4-hexenoic acid. [1]

> >

> >

> > Jocelyn E Brown <brownje@> wrote:

> > Hi, The label says that Orithush D has sorbic acid in it.

> > What is sorbic acid? It was not in Wikipedia.

> >

> > Which formula did your doctor day...the regular or the

> > douche formula for rinsing the nose with the neti pot?

> >

> > I have sinus problems since packing out my mom's wet house

> > 2 years ago. I've just been using salt in my neti pot.

> > Maybe I need to add something new.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Jocelyn

> >

> > >>>I've also added orithrush-D to my neti pot rinse

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

-lol's, the pain is comparable to labor. just doesn't last as long,

thank goodness.-- In , Edy Rayfield

<edyrayfield@...> wrote:

>

> How I get around the burning is breathing like in labor. Very soon

the burning passes and the second half of the run is just fine. The

burning is over very quickly and worth it.

>

> who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: -this sounds very

interesting, i use canning salt and distilled water

> to wash my sinuses, it helps a lot but i need something more. the

> innfectious disease doctors said yes, this is just the same as

useing

> saline. how ever it is so painful to do and i often have to lean

way

> back and get it way up in there, my eyes water and it burns big

time.

> i'm going to check into this, thanks for posting about it.-- In

> , Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@> wrote:

> >

> > Here ya go Jocelyn, it's used in food as an antifungal and

> antibacterial. Should do the same for your nose, yes? My mold doc

> seems to think so I believe he mixes his own up in double distilled

> water.

> >

> > From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

> > Jump to: navigation, search

> > Sorbic acid Chemical name (E,E)-2,4-Hexadienoic

> acid Chemical formula C6H8O2 Molecular mass 112.12 g/mol

> CAS number [110-44-1] Melting point 135 °C Boiling point 228

> °C (dec) SMILES CC=CC=CC(O)O Disclaimer and references

> >

> > Sometimes confused with ascorbic acid, Vitamin C Sorbic acid,

> or 2,4-hexadienoic acid, is a natural organic compound used as a

food

> preservative. It has the chemical formula C6H8O2. It was first

> isolated from the unripe berries of the rowan (Sorbus aucuparia),

> hence its name.

> > Sorbic acid and its mineral salts, such as sodium sorbate,

> potassium sorbate and calcium sorbate, are antimicrobial agents

often

> used as preservatives in food and drinks to prevent the growth of

> mold, yeast and fungi. In general the salts are preferred over the

> acid form because they are more soluble in water. The optimal pH

for

> the antimicrobial activity is below pH 6.5 and sorbates are

generally

> used at concentrations of 0.025% to 0.10%. Adding sorbate salts to

> food will however raise the pH of the food slightly so the pH may

> need to be adjusted to assure safety.

> > Sorbic acid should not be confused with other chemically

> unrelated, but similarly named food additives sorbitol,

polysorbate,

> and ascorbic acid (Vitamin C).

> > The E numbers are:

> >

> > E200 Sorbic acid

> > E201 Sodium sorbate

> > E202 Potassium sorbate

> > E203 Calcium sorbate

> > Some molds (notably some Trichoderma and Penicillium strains) and

> yeasts are able to detoxify sorbates by decarboxylation, producing

> trans-1,3-pentadiene. The pentadiene manifests as a typical odor of

> kerosene or petroleum. Other detoxification reactions include

> reduction to 4-hexenol and 4-hexenoic acid. [1]

> >

> >

> > Jocelyn E Brown <brownje@> wrote:

> > Hi, The label says that Orithush D has sorbic acid in it.

> > What is sorbic acid? It was not in Wikipedia.

> >

> > Which formula did your doctor day...the regular or the

> > douche formula for rinsing the nose with the neti pot?

> >

> > I have sinus problems since packing out my mom's wet house

> > 2 years ago. I've just been using salt in my neti pot.

> > Maybe I need to add something new.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Jocelyn

> >

> > >>>I've also added orithrush-D to my neti pot rinse

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sharon, how often do you have to use the Nizoral

spray? Do you use it when you are symptomatic or

do you use it all the time?

[Guest guest]

-part of this illness is reacureing infections, that includes the

sinuses.than you also have the sensativity issue.and breathing

particles up your nose all the time, encluding mold particles. many

of us have chronic sinusitis and/or rinositis, some probably have

allergic fungal sinusitis. i also read somewhere that mycotoxins are

absorbed into the sinus tissue. i'm pretty sure that the burning to

my nose and sinuses in the first house were from stachratoxins, my

sinuses fell like they have been burnt to a crisp.toward the end my

face swelled with sinus infections so it probably daaged my sinus

glands to. there was a short term study on mice that showed this

trichathecene mycotoxin burnt thier noses. i think with long term

exposure its permanent damage. part of the reason i get these

headackes. it snowed here and the moisture in the air if i go outside

fells great and helps the headacke. the dryness of heating system is

hard to take. i've worried about running a humidifier but i'm getting

one anyway, i will just have to keep it super clean. at the second

house my nose dripped constantly, different molds/myco's, different

effects.-- In , " barb1283 "

<barb1283@...> wrote:

>

> Why do you need to continually take it? If it solves a problem,

you

> would think problem would disappear. How many times a day do you

need

> to do this?

>

>

> >

> > Nope. You use it staight out of the bottle. It burns a bit, be

> warned. But Dr Marinkovich swears by it and doesn't want me to

ever

> run out. I would say because he recommends it so highly and is an

> allergist and mold/fungus expert that it would be highly unlikely

to

> bother those of us that are so sensitive. I know I'm one of them.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

No. But it lasts about a month or more. Maybe there's a way to make your own.

who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: -it's kindof expencive. 8oz. for

$12.00 do you dilute this any?-- In

, Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@...> wrote:

>

> How I get around the burning is breathing like in labor. Very soon

the burning passes and the second half of the run is just fine. The

burning is over very quickly and worth it.

>

> who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: -this sounds very

interesting, i use canning salt and distilled water

> to wash my sinuses, it helps a lot but i need something more. the

> innfectious disease doctors said yes, this is just the same as

useing

> saline. how ever it is so painful to do and i often have to lean

way

> back and get it way up in there, my eyes water and it burns big

time.

> i'm going to check into this, thanks for posting about it.-- In

> , Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@> wrote:

> >

> > Here ya go Jocelyn, it's used in food as an antifungal and

> antibacterial. Should do the same for your nose, yes? My mold doc

> seems to think so I believe he mixes his own up in double distilled

> water.

> >

> > From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

> > Jump to: navigation, search

> > Sorbic acid Chemical name (E,E)-2,4-Hexadienoic

> acid Chemical formula C6H8O2 Molecular mass 112.12 g/mol

> CAS number [110-44-1] Melting point 135 °C Boiling point 228

> °C (dec) SMILES CC=CC=CC(O)O Disclaimer and references

> >

> > Sometimes confused with ascorbic acid, Vitamin C Sorbic acid,

> or 2,4-hexadienoic acid, is a natural organic compound used as a

food

> preservative. It has the chemical formula C6H8O2. It was first

> isolated from the unripe berries of the rowan (Sorbus aucuparia),

> hence its name.

> > Sorbic acid and its mineral salts, such as sodium sorbate,

> potassium sorbate and calcium sorbate, are antimicrobial agents

often

> used as preservatives in food and drinks to prevent the growth of

> mold, yeast and fungi. In general the salts are preferred over the

> acid form because they are more soluble in water. The optimal pH

for

> the antimicrobial activity is below pH 6.5 and sorbates are

generally

> used at concentrations of 0.025% to 0.10%. Adding sorbate salts to

> food will however raise the pH of the food slightly so the pH may

> need to be adjusted to assure safety.

> > Sorbic acid should not be confused with other chemically

> unrelated, but similarly named food additives sorbitol,

polysorbate,

> and ascorbic acid (Vitamin C).

> > The E numbers are:

> >

> > E200 Sorbic acid

> > E201 Sodium sorbate

> > E202 Potassium sorbate

> > E203 Calcium sorbate

> > Some molds (notably some Trichoderma and Penicillium strains) and

> yeasts are able to detoxify sorbates by decarboxylation, producing

> trans-1,3-pentadiene. The pentadiene manifests as a typical odor of

> kerosene or petroleum. Other detoxification reactions include

> reduction to 4-hexenol and 4-hexenoic acid. [1]

> >

> >

> > Jocelyn E Brown <brownje@> wrote:

> > Hi, The label says that Orithush D has sorbic acid in it.

> > What is sorbic acid? It was not in Wikipedia.

> >

> > Which formula did your doctor day...the regular or the

> > douche formula for rinsing the nose with the neti pot?

> >

> > I have sinus problems since packing out my mom's wet house

> > 2 years ago. I've just been using salt in my neti pot.

> > Maybe I need to add something new.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Jocelyn

> >

> > >>>I've also added orithrush-D to my neti pot rinse

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I think he thinks I'm getting recontaminated from my environment and want to

make sure I keep cleaned out at all times. He thinks the colony in my nose is

just one of many throughout my body. Especially lungs. I didn't do very well

on the breath test thing. Surprised the heck outta me!

barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote: Why do you need to continually

take it? If it solves a problem, you

would think problem would disappear. How many times a day do you need

to do this?

--- In , Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@...>

wrote:

>

> Nope. You use it staight out of the bottle. It burns a bit, be

warned. But Dr Marinkovich swears by it and doesn't want me to ever

run out. I would say because he recommends it so highly and is an

allergist and mold/fungus expert that it would be highly unlikely to

bother those of us that are so sensitive. I know I'm one of them.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Are you using the exact right amount of salt? It's 1/4 tsp per cup of water.

And there's no pressure involved, you just gently let it flow through. I can

honest say without the oriflush I don't feel a thing.

barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote: My sinuses hurt when I use a neti

pot. Has anyone experienced that?

I have done a few successful ones but I kind of started to avoid them

due to pain. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong. It seems like

pressure of water on sinuses hurts.

--- In , Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@...>

wrote:

>

> Here ya go Jocelyn, it's used in food as an antifungal and

antibacterial. Should do the same for your nose, yes? My mold doc

seems to think so I believe he mixes his own up in double distilled

water.

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

I had pain when I first started but there isn't really any pain anymore. It

does sting when I add the hydrogen peroxide. Maybe the inflammation goes down as

you continue to use the neti - at least for me it seems to have stopped.

take care,