Re: neti pot and sorbic orithrush D question

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-thanks everyone for all the info. on this.-- In

, Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@...> wrote:

>

> No. But it lasts about a month or more. Maybe there's a way to

make your own.

>

> who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: -it's kindof expencive. 8oz.

for $12.00 do you dilute this any?-- In

> , Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@> wrote:

> >

> > How I get around the burning is breathing like in labor. Very

soon

> the burning passes and the second half of the run is just fine. The

> burning is over very quickly and worth it.

> >

> > who <jeaninem660@> wrote: -this sounds very

> interesting, i use canning salt and distilled water

> > to wash my sinuses, it helps a lot but i need something more. the

> > innfectious disease doctors said yes, this is just the same as

> useing

> > saline. how ever it is so painful to do and i often have to lean

> way

> > back and get it way up in there, my eyes water and it burns big

> time.

> > i'm going to check into this, thanks for posting about it.-- In

> > , Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Here ya go Jocelyn, it's used in food as an antifungal and

> > antibacterial. Should do the same for your nose, yes? My mold doc

> > seems to think so I believe he mixes his own up in double

distilled

> > water.

> > >

> > > From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

> > > Jump to: navigation, search

> > > Sorbic acid Chemical name (E,E)-2,4-Hexadienoic

> > acid Chemical formula C6H8O2 Molecular mass 112.12 g/mol

> > CAS number [110-44-1] Melting point 135 °C Boiling point 228

> > °C (dec) SMILES CC=CC=CC(O)O Disclaimer and references

> > >

> > > Sometimes confused with ascorbic acid, Vitamin C Sorbic acid,

> > or 2,4-hexadienoic acid, is a natural organic compound used as a

> food

> > preservative. It has the chemical formula C6H8O2. It was first

> > isolated from the unripe berries of the rowan (Sorbus aucuparia),

> > hence its name.

> > > Sorbic acid and its mineral salts, such as sodium sorbate,

> > potassium sorbate and calcium sorbate, are antimicrobial agents

> often

> > used as preservatives in food and drinks to prevent the growth of

> > mold, yeast and fungi. In general the salts are preferred over

the

> > acid form because they are more soluble in water. The optimal pH

> for

> > the antimicrobial activity is below pH 6.5 and sorbates are

> generally

> > used at concentrations of 0.025% to 0.10%. Adding sorbate salts

to

> > food will however raise the pH of the food slightly so the pH may

> > need to be adjusted to assure safety.

> > > Sorbic acid should not be confused with other chemically

> > unrelated, but similarly named food additives sorbitol,

> polysorbate,

> > and ascorbic acid (Vitamin C).

> > > The E numbers are:

> > >

> > > E200 Sorbic acid

> > > E201 Sodium sorbate

> > > E202 Potassium sorbate

> > > E203 Calcium sorbate

> > > Some molds (notably some Trichoderma and Penicillium strains)

and

> > yeasts are able to detoxify sorbates by decarboxylation,

producing

> > trans-1,3-pentadiene. The pentadiene manifests as a typical odor

of

> > kerosene or petroleum. Other detoxification reactions include

> > reduction to 4-hexenol and 4-hexenoic acid. [1]

> > >

> > >

> > > Jocelyn E Brown <brownje@> wrote:

> > > Hi, The label says that Orithush D has sorbic acid in it.

> > > What is sorbic acid? It was not in Wikipedia.

> > >

> > > Which formula did your doctor day...the regular or the

> > > douche formula for rinsing the nose with the neti pot?

> > >

> > > I have sinus problems since packing out my mom's wet house

> > > 2 years ago. I've just been using salt in my neti pot.

> > > Maybe I need to add something new.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Jocelyn

> > >

> > > >>>I've also added orithrush-D to my neti pot rinse

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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-Hi Sharon, is this a prescription spray or over the counter?-- In

, snk1955@... wrote:

>

>

> I use Nizoral nasal spray that I get from Dr. Marinkovich. I

don't have

> sinus problems. I use it when I have been exposed to something,

somewhere and I

> feel fuzzy headed.

>

> My daughter, who has had 6 sinus surgeries uses this, too. Along

with a

> nasal lavage system (looks like a water pic for the nose). Since

adding the

> Nizoral to her regime, she has not required surgery. Her sinuses

are staying

> clear.

>

> My sister has no sinus problems either, but she gets a cough and a

tickle

> that makes her have to clear her throat alot. She uses the

Nizoral, too. It

> takes care of her situation in about 10 minutes.

>

> I think there is much to the ancient Yoga practices of keeping the

sinuses

> clean in order to promote health from many aspects.

>

> Sharon

>

>

>

>

> Nope. You use it staight out of the bottle. It burns a bit, be

warned. But

> Dr Marinkovich swears by it and doesn't want me to ever run out. I

would say

> because he recommends it so highly and is an allergist and

mold/fungus expert

> that it would be highly unlikely to bother those of us that are so

sensitive.

> I know I'm one of them.

>

> who <_jeaninem660@jeaninem66jea_ (mailto:jeaninem660@...) > wrote:

> -those neti'sare pretty neat,might have to get one. i just have a

> sinus washer from the mayo clinic, about this orithrush d, you have

> to boil it in distilled water first to desolve it? is it safe for

> chemical sensative people? i would love a miricle for my sinuses,

> they are so dry and heat is causeing a lot of sinus headackes. can

i

> get this at a herb store?-- In _@ic_

> (mailto: ) , Edy

> Rayfield <edyrayfield@edy> wrote:

> >

> > Here ya go Jocelyn, it's used in food as an antifungal and

> antibacterial. Should do the same for your nose, yes? My mold doc

> seems to think so I believe he mixes his own up in double

distilled

> water.

> >

> > From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

> > Jump to: navigation, search

> > Sorbic acid Chemical name (E,E)-2,4-Hexadieno

> acid Chemical formula C6H8O2 Molecular mass 112.12 g/mol

> CAS number [110-44-1] Melting point 135 °C Boiling point 228

> °C (dec) SMILES CC=CC=CC(O)O Disclaimer and references

> >

> > Sometimes confused with ascorbic acid, Vitamin C Sorbic acid,

> or 2,4-hexadienoic acid, is a natural organic compound used as a

food

> preservative. It has the chemical formula C6H8O2. It was first

> isolated from the unripe berries of the rowan (Sorbus aucuparia),

> hence its name.

> > Sorbic acid and its mineral salts, such as sodium sorbate,

> potassium sorbate and calcium sorbate, are antimicrobial agents

often

> used as preservatives in food and drinks to prevent the growth of

> mold, yeast and fungi. In general the salts are preferred over the

> acid form because they are more soluble in water. The optimal pH

for

> the antimicrobial activity is below pH 6.5 and sorbates are

generally

> used at concentrations of 0.025% to 0.10%. Adding sorbate salts to

> food will however raise the pH of the food slightly so the pH may

> need to be adjusted to assure safety.

> > Sorbic acid should not be confused with other chemically

> unrelated, but similarly named food additives sorbitol,

polysorbate,

> and ascorbic acid (Vitamin C).

> > The E numbers are:

> >

> > E200 Sorbic acid

> > E201 Sodium sorbate

> > E202 Potassium sorbate

> > E203 Calcium sorbate

> > Some molds (notably some Trichoderma and Penicillium strains)

and

> yeasts are able to detoxify sorbates by decarboxylation,

producing

> trans-1,3-pentadientrans-1,3-pentadien<WBR>e. The pentadiene

manifests a

> kerosene or petroleum. Other detoxification reactions include

> reduction to 4-hexenol and 4-hexenoic acid. [1]

> >

> >

> > Jocelyn E Brown <brownje@> wrote:

> > Hi, The label says that Orithush D has sorbic acid in it.

> > What is sorbic acid? It was not in Wikipedia.

> >

> > Which formula did your doctor day...the regular or the

> > douche formula for rinsing the nose with the neti pot?

> >

> > I have sinus problems since packing out my mom's wet house

> > 2 years ago. I've just been using salt in my neti pot.

> > Maybe I need to add something new.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Jocelyn

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Re: pain with neti pot

I've done it a few times without pain but more

often than not it hurts. I think it has to do

with holding head just right. I've come up

against pain a number of times and then kept

changing angle of head and then retrying and

found an angle that didn't hurt. It just takes

so long some times that I stopped doing it. I

will use it if I think I have a cold coming on

though or if I am being bothered by allergies in

spring and fall.