Guest guest Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 You can use premade formulas quite efficiently. Standard premade formulas have been in use for many *thousands* of years because they work so well. The Japanese (okay I think its the Japanese) do percentages of different formulas to modify them to the case. It is also easier for the practitioner who may not be able to have loads of herbs on hand and space to have a full pharmacy. Where the problem comes in is when the person says " oh you have ADD? well here " and grabs a formula without basing it on the signs and symptoms just on the western diagnosis. Hey if a pre-made formula correctly fits and addresses what the practioner is trying to do, then that just makes it easier for everyone, its just not often that this happens, especially with one formula. So I don't know if outright I'd let that dissuade me. Thanks ! I found out that this practitioner uses pre-madeformulas/ combinations of herbs and does not really put together wholeherbs based on the complaint. He apparently has numerous such combos,so he tailors the package of combos (sorry- its late and I'm meandering). > > > Thanks . Yes, he does have a phenol issue and he gets No-Fenol.> > His OAT results showed the high oxalates, and I do see a difference in > > how the oxalates present vs. phenols(re. dark circles).> > Re. the kind of education the practitioner has had, would you be> > comfortable with someone who has had a traditional education from > > China, years of experience, and teaches some formal courses in TCM?> >> > Thanks!> >> > > >> > > > -- > Ormonde, L.Ac.> www.AuburnCommunityAcupuncture.com> -- Ormonde, L.Ac. www.AuburnCommunityAcupuncture.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Our TCM doctor uses prepackaged formulas, premade formulas he makes in his lab, and individualized formulas. Right now my ASD ds is on a packaged herb formula, a capsulized formula our doctor makes, and a liquid tea our doctor makes. None of these were especially mixed or brewed for our ds. Our other ds is not a patient, but our doctor has him taking the tea for two weeks. Our oldest dd is taking two prepackaged herb formulas and one premade capsulized formula made by the doctor. The two dc who are TCM patients have seen improvements. The third dc who is not a TCM patient hasn't shown a noticeable difference, but the tea he is taking for two weeks is for the immune system and works on viruses. The doctor had this dc take the tea also because of the viral illness we just had in our house. Our doctor says he only uses a large trusted manufacturer. He says he has visited the farm in China and they use no pesticides. They use tobacco water. He said they don't spray with sulfur and use vacuum sealing instead. They test free of heavy metals. He said that the formulas he makes in his lab are made from the herbs themselves, rather than from powdered versions of them. He uses some of the packaged stuff because they are so good. He says that he can't duplicate one of them that he uses on our ds. There are so many herbs and it is so good the way it is. > > You can use premade formulas quite efficiently. Standard premade formulas > have been in use for many *thousands* of years because they work so well. > The Japanese (okay I think its the Japanese) do percentages of different > formulas to modify them to the case. It is also easier for the practitioner > who may not be able to have loads of herbs on hand and space to have a full > pharmacy. Where the problem comes in is when the person says " oh you have > ADD? well here " and grabs a formula without basing it on the signs and > symptoms just on the western diagnosis. Hey if a pre-made formula correctly > fits and addresses what the practioner is trying to do, then that just makes > it easier for everyone, its just not often that this happens, especially > with one formula. > > So I don't know if outright I'd let that dissuade me. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Hi , Is there a website that lists reputable TCM practitioners? I haven't had much luck just Googling for one. And thank you for sharing so much knowledge with the group! Very interesting... Patty in PA > > > > > > > > Do you know a good (great) practitioner in Bay Area - preferably > in Marin but East Bay or San Francisco can work too? > > Also our bioset person said that they are able to work in TCM. > Any one know anything about this? > > > Thank you. > > Dina Tarah, MFT > > > BE WELL! > > > > > > To: mb12 valtrex > From: cariadanam@... > Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:49:05 -0800 > > Subject: Re: TCM and Oxalates > > > > > > > > > > I think Teas listed with high oxalates are due to the caffeine that you see in black teas and some others. Also from the berries. In TCM you won't have any (not guaranteed, I can't vouch for all practitioners out there!) black tea or caffeine prescribed, and we don't really use alot of berries, with the exception of go ji (go qi zi) berries and maybe some Im not thinking of? But something to be remembered is there is a delicate balance in the herbal formulas, so often we will use an extreme herb that in high doses *by itself* would be toxic but in a formula is offset by other herbs to change that, also preparation of an herb affects it's effect as well. So with that theory the concern of high oxalates might not be as strong as if you were giving a glass of berry juice or coffee or beer or chocolate milk. > > > Another note on the above for those of you looking for a TCM practitioner it is vital with our kids who have serious nutritional issues to find someone who is very very very well trained in herbs. If you are in California then the concern is not as high because we have the hardest board exams with with stringest requirements, you can't be licensed in California without in depth herbal training. I believe Washington also has high requirements. However there are some states that have no herbal requirements and/or licensure. So ask what their training was, don't be afraid, if it wasn't at least three years of intensive herbal studies I'd keep looking. If they don't have a Masters Degree, definately keep looking. > > > HTH > > > -- > Ormonde, L.Ac. > www.AuburnCommunityAcupuncture.com > > > > > > > Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. Get your Hotmail® account. > > > -- > Ormonde, L.Ac. > > www.AuburnCommunityAcupuncture.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. > http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_spee\ d_122008 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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