Re: Scientific Paper on Airborne Mycotoxins

[Guest guest]

This paper does show how hard it is to assess indoor environments

for mycotoxins, which is something I cannot do apartment searching.

I have to use my plates to see if there is excessive amounts of

viable spores. That's all I can do quickly. If anyone has

suggestion of quick way to assess a place for excessive myctoxins, I

would love to know what it is. I don't have that 'sixth' sense that

some have developed to detect them. If I am in evironment for a

long period of time I can become very fatigued and week but by then

it would be too late, since I would have signed a lease, etc. Right

now I found a pretty clean place according to mold plates, that I am

able to rent on a month to month basis due to landlord thinking he

may have difficul time finding renter during holiday and winter

season.

>

> For those of us who are trying to convince others that the

mycotoxins that are making us sick, are floating in the air, just

[Guest guest]

Joe: Speak for yourself. Behind the scenes in the litigation over the

last three years, we have managed to assist attorneys in obtaining major

settlement amounts for their fungal-exposed and very ill clients in the hope

that this might encourage the medical field to begin taking a more

concentrated effort to understand the methods pathogenic fungi take to

influence disease (a little over $10,500 million at this juncture). Judges

have been catching on to the fact that none of this is " new " or " frontier "

science, and with the great research, detection methology, and medical

treatment that Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker and Dr. Ken Hundell, Dr. Marinkovich,

Dr. Hooper, and several others have aptly provided a whole new realization

is starting to advance foreward in scientific and medical circles. Remember

it takes around 15-20 years for new hypotheses and concepts to change minds,

and molecular sciences and the genetic and immunologic sciences especially

are making substantial contributions at this time. This whole process is

kept fairly accurate and basically honest with the widespread use of the

Internet and other techinological advancements that are providing worldwide

communications and resources. We are making definite headway, but to the

person who is ill and has basically lost everything these behind the scene

efforts are absolutely too slow for comfort. Soon the soothsayers and liars

will cease to be a credible problem and the fruits of our labor (of love and

devotion) will succeed and effective " early detection " and formal medical

treatments will become increasingly available as the govermental agencies,

medical health community, and insurance communites (among the many entities

involved) feel the embarassment of their lack of knowledge. Hold on my

friend, and keept the faith. Those who care deeply about humans and health

over financial gain and greed always eventually find success. The reason you

do not see more success in the courtroom is that justice has never been

about fairness in regard to plaintiffs or defendents. Justice has never been

a straight forward process about law and legislation... justice is about who

holds the " best hand " at the end of the day in front of a judge and/or jury;

whether it be in the courtroom, or behind the scene. Sometimes we cannot

differentiate the judge from the politician... I believe this is why judges

wear black robes; so that we can observe just who works in what capacity.

Best regards,

Doug Haney

Maridea EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.

From: Joe Salowitz <josephsalowitz@...>

>Reply-

> < >

>Subject: [] Scientific Paper on Airborne Mycotoxins

>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:33:14 -0800 (PST)

>

>For those of us who are trying to convince others that the mycotoxins that

>are making us sick, are floating in the air, just like dust or pollen, here

>is a link to a scientific paper that appeared in the scientific journal

> " Applied and Environmental Microbiology " in January 2005. The link goes to

>the abstract of the article. To read the FREE full-text of the article,

>click on " Full Text " , in the upper right hand corner. To email the article,

>click on " Full Text PDF " , in the same place, and save the PDF to your

>computer, from where you can attach it to your emails, when you try to get

>non-believers to see the light. Don't get your hopes up, that any one you

>know will change their mind about YOU. Once a person " pigeonholes " any of

>us as a " mental case " , due to our repeated attempts to explain OUR reality

>to them, it is difficult for them to absorb at any evidence that would

>substantiate our mold claims. But, people who we have never spoken to

>before, might review this

> evidence with some objectivity. Its worth a try!

>

> Joe

>

> http://tinyurl.com/ydgvdu

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the encouragement Doug. We don't hear enough from you.

Keep in touch with us.

>

> Joe: Speak for yourself. Behind the scenes in the litigation over

the

> last three years, we have managed to assist attorneys in obtaining

major

> settlement amounts for their fungal-exposed and very ill clients in

the hope

> that this might encourage the medical field to begin taking a more

> concentrated effort to understand the methods pathogenic fungi take

to

> influence disease (a little over $10,500 million at this

juncture). Judges

> have been catching on to the fact that none of this is " new "

or " frontier "

> science, and with the great research, detection methology, and

medical

> treatment that Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker and Dr. Ken Hundell, Dr.

Marinkovich,

> Dr. Hooper, and several others have aptly provided a whole new

realization

> is starting to advance foreward in scientific and medical circles.

Remember

> it takes around 15-20 years for new hypotheses and concepts to

change minds,

> and molecular sciences and the genetic and immunologic sciences

especially

> are making substantial contributions at this time. This whole

process is

> kept fairly accurate and basically honest with the widespread use

of the

> Internet and other techinological advancements that are providing

worldwide

> communications and resources. We are making definite headway, but

to the

> person who is ill and has basically lost everything these behind

the scene

> efforts are absolutely too slow for comfort. Soon the soothsayers

and liars

> will cease to be a credible problem and the fruits of our labor (of

love and

> devotion) will succeed and effective " early detection " and formal

medical

> treatments will become increasingly available as the govermental

agencies,

> medical health community, and insurance communites (among the many

entities

> involved) feel the embarassment of their lack of knowledge. Hold on

my

> friend, and keept the faith. Those who care deeply about humans and

health

> over financial gain and greed always eventually find success. The

reason you

> do not see more success in the courtroom is that justice has never

been

> about fairness in regard to plaintiffs or defendents. Justice has

never been

> a straight forward process about law and legislation... justice is

about who

> holds the " best hand " at the end of the day in front of a judge

and/or jury;

> whether it be in the courtroom, or behind the scene. Sometimes we

cannot

> differentiate the judge from the politician... I believe this is

why judges

> wear black robes; so that we can observe just who works in what

capacity.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Doug Haney

> Maridea EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.

>

>

>

>

> From: Joe Salowitz <josephsalowitz@...>

> >Reply-

> > < >

> >Subject: [] Scientific Paper on Airborne Mycotoxins

> >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:33:14 -0800 (PST)

> >

> >For those of us who are trying to convince others that the

mycotoxins that

> >are making us sick, are floating in the air, just like dust or

pollen, here

> >is a link to a scientific paper that appeared in the scientific

journal

> > " Applied and Environmental Microbiology " in January 2005. The link

goes to

> >the abstract of the article. To read the FREE full-text of the

article,

> >click on " Full Text " , in the upper right hand corner. To email the

article,

> >click on " Full Text PDF " , in the same place, and save the PDF to

your

> >computer, from where you can attach it to your emails, when you

try to get

> >non-believers to see the light. Don't get your hopes up, that any

one you

> >know will change their mind about YOU. Once a person " pigeonholes "

any of

> >us as a " mental case " , due to our repeated attempts to explain OUR

reality

> >to them, it is difficult for them to absorb at any evidence that

would

> >substantiate our mold claims. But, people who we have never spoken

to

> >before, might review this

> > evidence with some objectivity. Its worth a try!

> >

> > Joe

> >

> > http://tinyurl.com/ydgvdu

> >

> >

> >