Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 , I had horrific anxiety problems with college. For me, it was always being " tested " or quized and having that stupid ass voice tell me " You're dumb. You're never going to make anything of yourself. You can't do this. blah, blah, blah, blah. " My psychiatrist had to up my anxiolitic meds just so I could deal. What helped me the most was: - exercising - making lists and checking off my accompishments (also keeps things in perspective) - working with others in the same class, like a study buddy/group. - Taking mental health days/hours. - Getting support from friends who are going though it, too. - Imagine the very worst to the end until it has no power over you. - Then, visualize what you want to happen. - Break studying down to 50 minutes. Mind doesn't absorb too much after 50 minutes and tends to forget what you studied previously if you go overload. Also, you are graduating; an exciting, life changing time and a scary - Holy Cow - kinda experience. Believing that God/Greater Being/Creator has a plan and purpose for me helped with the future desperation feelings. Greg. j1mcninc wrote: Did any of you have problems managing stress during college? That is anxiety brought on by the pressure of school, compounded a million times by your reactive dynamic with your nada? I'm graduating in the spring and I just went NC 16 days ago. Im going through an extascy of almost like a rebirth, but I still suffer from anxieties and stress that feel like her doing. I'm having trouble motivating myself, I think I'm strugging through some depression. Any ideas on what to do? How do I motivate myself till this depression passes? I really have to get my came face on, these courses are tough! --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Greg, I printed up your list of what helped you most in college. Man that really spoke to me. So much so, I taped next to my door to remind myself. Thanks Greg. > Did any of you have problems managing stress during college? That is > anxiety brought on by the pressure of school, compounded a million > times by your reactive dynamic with your nada? I'm graduating in the > spring and I just went NC 16 days ago. Im going through an extascy of > almost like a rebirth, but I still suffer from anxieties and stress > that feel like her doing. I'm having trouble motivating myself, I > think I'm strugging through some depression. Any ideas on what to do? > How do I motivate myself till this depression passes? I really have to > get my came face on, these courses are tough! > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 > >> > i dont want another person ... > > Its not about " leaving " the person - its about > handling any scarcity within yourself ***And a great way to 'handle' the scarcity within is to question your thoughts with inquiry. and turning things into abundance - ***questioning my stressful thoughts concerning needing anything other than what I already have allows me to see the abundance that is already, always present. is the glass half full or half > empty sort of thing. > > > > > my husband is still with me and already i am > > stressed i could > > lose him.. so weird.. ***Not really so weird. You are believing your thoughts about loss and scaring yourself with them. > > guess i should be in present time. ***Should Schmould, you shouldn't be until you are. maybe listen to > > eckhart tolle. > > I think I've read a few studies where it mentions that > when people start to focus on the positive, that this > is what they start to manifest. ***Maybe they are noticing the positive that is everything and everywhere already manifested.... > > So, if you focus on losing someone - you've already > created a loss - even if the person isn't gone. ***Yeah, sounds so true in my experience. What > if you focused on being grateful that he's with you > instead and acting as if you are, with love and > confidence? ***When I question the thoughts that I find fearful, I often find that underneath them there is a state of gratitude that arises naturally. >C. > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 Upon investigating this a little more, eventually, I found that there was an " is " - meaning whatever " is " and the natural " isness " (the word starts to sound funny to me after awhile - like a bee buzzing Like a present time " is " - nothing else attached. But - I think gratitude is a step in a happier direction - my opinion . Evie --- catherineantle wrote: > > ***When I question the thoughts that I find fearful, > I often find > that underneath them there is a state of gratitude > that arises > naturally. > > > >C. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 thanks for sharing your opinion. my point was that i don't have to try to 'be' grateful, when i'm not...inquiry allows gratitude to surface ~ and of course 'gratitude' is just a word to attempt to communicate the indescribable. Evie wrote: Upon investigating this a little more, eventually, I found that there was an " is " - meaning whatever " is " and the natural " isness " (the word starts to sound funny to me after awhile - like a bee buzzing Like a present time " is " - nothing else attached. But - I think gratitude is a step in a happier direction - my opinion . Evie --- catherineantle wrote: > > ***When I question the thoughts that I find fearful, > I often find > that underneath them there is a state of gratitude > that arises > naturally. > > > >C. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 --- mrcitrus6 wrote: > --- > thanks evie and catherine. i am grateful for my > husband > And i have lived alone before.. if i had to .. i > could > again.. > It just dawned on me the other day he could die. > And id rather go first.. but that is not my > business rh Wait, skid, screech, backup - Maybe your husband dying isn't your business, but what about the part of " I'd rather go first " - isn't that your business? Evie > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 Should calm down within a couple weeks. Cheryl~Check out my blog:  http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com/ Thank you for responding to my hyperactivity/valtrex concern. Those of you that have had a similar experience, what kind of time frame can I expect? Does it take a few weeks for improvement, or should I prepare for a few months of hyperactivity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I did mail it to my son's. To them there is nothing wrong with me.....only my middle son knows differently because he lived with me for a year. Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows  Love, Lyncia   Subject: (unknown) To: livercirrhosissupport Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 11:29 AM  It does get annoying when people constantly ask you how you are feeling. It is just normal conversation, but is bothersome. Or when you go eat at someones and can't eat much of what they fix. They just don't get it with the sodium and beef and whatever, and they seem offended. I think I read much more into their comments than is really there often, also. Such a roller coaster ride. What you wrote Abijan, about this thing is very true.  I think of e-mailing it to some family members, but then I think they will just feel I am whining. The deal with live donor, do you still have to be near death and have high MEL score to get a transplant that way? Like you would waiting for a liver while on the transplant list?Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Lyncia..I know what you mean....I have a daughter-in-law that thinks I'm faking al my problenms and Ed's cirrhosis is not really serious. People! My sister has end stage kidney failure and cannot have a transplant. She's lost alot of weight. When someone sees her that hasn't for awhile...they tell her how good she looks and ask how she lost all that weight and what diet she used. She answers--kidney failure,but she wouldn't recommend it! HA HA HA !! Luckiky ,even with all her problems,she still has a good sense of humor. I tell her to gather up $2000.00 and we'll go get her a kidney in Palistan. We are bad!!                                                                             Love,Jill  We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Mon, December 28, 2009 2:53:27 PM Subject: Re: (unknown)  I did mail it to my son's. To them there is nothing wrong with me.....only my middle son knows differently because he lived with me for a year. Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows  Love, Lyncia   From: dave dodds <daveliltoeyahoo (DOT) com> Subject: (unknown) To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 11:29 AM  It does get annoying when people constantly ask you how you are feeling. It is just normal conversation, but is bothersome. Or when you go eat at someones and can't eat much of what they fix. They just don't get it with the sodium and beef and whatever, and they seem offended. I think I read much more into their comments than is really there often, also. Such a roller coaster ride. What you wrote Abijan, about this thing is very true.  I think of e-mailing it to some family members, but then I think they will just feel I am whining. The deal with live donor, do you still have to be near death and have high MEL score to get a transplant that way? Like you would waiting for a liver while on the transplant list?Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Jill What is it about daughter-in-laws??? Are they really that frightened that their hubby's still have feelings for another woman (their mother)??? I think it's absolutely great that you and your sister can laugh in the middle of these horrendous health problems!! I do okay with the humour as long as I'm feeling okay; but, if I'm already away down, I can't seem to find that humour button. Gloria ________________________________ Lyncia..I know what you mean....I have a daughter-in- law that thinks I'm faking al my problenms and Ed's cirrhosis is not really serious. People! My sister has end stage kidney failure and cannot have a transplant. She's lost alot of weight. When someone sees her that hasn't for awhile...they tell her how good she looks and ask how she lost all that weight and what diet she used. She answers--kidney failure,but she wouldn't recommend it! HA HA HA !! Luckiky ,even with all her problems,she still has a good sense of humor. I tell her to gather up $2000.00 and we'll go get her a kidney in Palistan. We are bad!! Love,Jill We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Mon, December 28, 2009 2:53:27 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) I did mail it to my son's. To them there is nothing wrong with me.....only my middle son knows differently because he lived with me for a year. Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows Love, Lyncia From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> Subject: (unknown) To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 11:29 AM It does get annoying when people constantly ask you how you are feeling. It is just normal conversation, but is bothersome. Or when you go eat at someones and can't eat much of what they fix. They just don't get it with the sodium and beef and whatever, and they seem offended. I think I read much more into their comments than is really there often, also. Such a roller coaster ride. What you wrote Abijan, about this thing is very true. I think of e-mailing it to some family members, but then I think they will just feel I am whining. The deal with live donor, do you still have to be near death and have high MEL score to get a transplant that way? Like you would waiting for a liver while on the transplant list?Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Jill,  I am laughing because they ask me how I lost the 100 pounds..............and I have wanted to say liver failure, but I would not recommend it.  Thank you for putting a smile on my face (my face looks better with the smile). Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows  Love, Lyncia   From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> Subject: (unknown) To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 11:29 AM  It does get annoying when people constantly ask you how you are feeling. It is just normal conversation, but is bothersome. Or when you go eat at someones and can't eat much of what they fix. They just don't get it with the sodium and beef and whatever, and they seem offended. I think I read much more into their comments than is really there often, also. Such a roller coaster ride. What you wrote Abijan, about this thing is very true.  I think of e-mailing it to some family members, but then I think they will just feel I am whining. The deal with live donor, do you still have to be near death and have high MEL score to get a transplant that way? Like you would waiting for a liver while on the transplant list?Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Now that was funny!! I'm having a bad day,and needed a good laugh LOL. Hugs, ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Mon, December 28, 2009 5:03:54 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) Lyncia..I know what you mean....I have a daughter-in-law that thinks I'm faking al my problenms and Ed's cirrhosis is not really serious. People! My sister has end stage kidney failure and cannot have a transplant. She's lost alot of weight. When someone sees her that hasn't for awhile...they tell her how good she looks and ask how she lost all that weight and what diet she used. She answers--kidney failure,but she wouldn't recommend it! HA HA HA !! Luckiky ,even with all her problems,she still has a good sense of humor. I tell her to gather up $2000.00 and we'll go get her a kidney in Palistan. We are bad!!                                                                             Love,Jill  We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Mon, December 28, 2009 2:53:27 PM Subject: Re: (unknown)  I did mail it to my son's. To them there is nothing wrong with me.....only my middle son knows differently because he lived with me for a year. Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows  Love, Lyncia   From: dave dodds <daveliltoeyahoo (DOT) com> Subject: (unknown) To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 11:29 AM  It does get annoying when people constantly ask you how you are feeling. It is just normal conversation, but is bothersome. Or when you go eat at someones and can't eat much of what they fix. They just don't get it with the sodium and beef and whatever, and they seem offended. I think I read much more into their comments than is really there often, also. Such a roller coaster ride. What you wrote Abijan, about this thing is very true.  I think of e-mailing it to some family members, but then I think they will just feel I am whining. The deal with live donor, do you still have to be near death and have high MEL score to get a transplant that way? Like you would waiting for a liver while on the transplant list?Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Jan The first level for me, not to take things so damn seriously, is to read the posts from these couple of sites I go to!! First of all, to hear how Jill and her sister can find something funny in such horribly sick times is such a blessing. It encourages me to see things from a different angle when I'm leaning toward feeling sorry for myself. Then, some of your stories are so very very sad that it makes me feel like a first class whiner compared to so many of you. Also, I can now find a little compassion in my heart for those people in our lives (like daughters-in-laws or step-daughters) that have entirely missed the whole point and opportunity!! I strongly believe that their paths are going to be difficult in life and they will never realize it's because they could only think of themselves. However, I have had a difficult relationship with the daughter-in-law for so long, that now that it's come to a head and is too broken to mend, I realize that I have nothing to miss except a cruel, hurtful bitch that didn't belong in my world. It's too bad that my step-son is so controlled by her that he dare not rock the boat; but, that is a choice he made and has to live with too. Very often I have wondered if I had what it takes to be a really good friend or daughter or sister or a wife - and be able to find the strength to just be there for those that are ill. I now know with every fibre of my being that I will not only be there; but, know a little bit more of what the sick person probably needs the most. Like, if they need to talk about their illness over and over and over - that's ok!! If they just need to cry or be frightened - that ok!! I hope that nobody around me ever feels rejected, invalidated or any of that because, I have learned so deeply what that feels like. I do find " humour " in things most days, because when facing chronic illness, why take things so seriously. However, I'm always at my worst the first couple of days after a shot and since I fell so badly on Christmas night, I just hurt that much more. Tomorrow will always be a better day!! Besides, my son is here for a visit and I haven't seen him for awhile!! At least we spent a couple of hours today talking before he's off and running to visit all his friends etc. and then his grandparents all before tomorrow evening. Gloria ________________________________ Gloria - I hope you can find the humor( our spelling for your humour) button. Maybe that is the problem, you have been spelling it wrong. [?] It really does help to have a sense of humor about medical problems. I can't say how I will be when I get worse, and pray that I will die of one of my other medical problems so I don't hang around to the end with the liver problems, but I told our Pastor's husband that I wanted to go out laughing, and he said he thinks I will do it if anyone can. We do get into a laughing mood around here every so often, hope we keep this up for awhile and give you some ideas of what you can laugh about. Jan H On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> wrote: > Jill > > What is it about daughter-in- laws??? Are they really that frightened that > their hubby's still have feelings for another woman (their mother)??? > > I think it's absolutely great that you and your sister can laugh in the > middle of these horrendous health problems!! I do okay with the humour as > long as I'm feeling okay; but, if I'm already away down, I can't seem to > find that humour button. > > Gloria > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Lyncia..I know what you mean....I have a daughter-in- law that thinks I'm > faking al my problenms and Ed's cirrhosis is not really serious. People! My > sister has end stage kidney failure and cannot have a transplant. She's lost > alot of weight. When someone sees her that hasn't for awhile...they tell her > how good she looks and ask how she lost all that weight and what diet she > used. She answers--kidney failure,but she wouldn't recommend it! HA HA HA !! > Luckiky ,even with all her problems,she still has a good sense of humor. I > tell her to gather up $2000.00 and we'll go get her a kidney in Palistan. We > are bad!! > > > Love,Jill > > We don't remember days, we remember moments. > Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take > our breath away. > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Sent: Mon, December 28, 2009 2:53:27 PM > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > > I did mail it to my son's. To them there is nothing wrong with me.....only > my middle son knows differently because he lived with me for a year. > > Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> > Subject: (unknown) > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 11:29 AM > > > > It does get annoying when people constantly ask you how you are feeling. > It is just normal conversation, but is bothersome. Or when you go eat at > someones and can't eat much of what they fix. They just don't get it with > the sodium and beef and whatever, and they seem offended. I think I read > much more into their comments than is really there often, also. Such a > roller coaster ride. What you wrote Abijan, about this thing is very true. > I think of e-mailing it to some family members, but then I think they will > just feel I am whining. The deal with live donor, do you still have to be > near death and have high MEL score to get a transplant that way? Like you > would waiting for a liver while on the transplant list?Dave > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Thanx for thinking of me - Jill I have a good friend here that doesn't take very much seriously. She usually kept me together with her Canadian French sense of humour. But, there is nothing like the people that really know where you are at because they've been there and can still find a way to make it funny. Gloria ________________________________ Yea,Gloria.. it's hard to find humor in things and people when you're feeling absolutley miserable. I must remember to try to cheer you yup when you post you are away down. I have a wicked sense of humor! I tell my family f to make me laugh when I'm really hurting,...that maybe it will make me feel better! HA HA !! Love,Jill We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Mon, December 28, 2009 6:04:55 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) Jill What is it about daughter-in- laws??? Are they really that frightened that their hubby's still have feelings for another woman (their mother)??? I think it's absolutely great that you and your sister can laugh in the middle of these horrendous health problems!! I do okay with the humour as long as I'm feeling okay; but, if I'm already away down, I can't seem to find that humour button. Gloria ____________ _________ _________ __ Lyncia..I know what you mean....I have a daughter-in- law that thinks I'm faking al my problenms and Ed's cirrhosis is not really serious. People! My sister has end stage kidney failure and cannot have a transplant. She's lost alot of weight. When someone sees her that hasn't for awhile...they tell her how good she looks and ask how she lost all that weight and what diet she used. She answers--kidney failure,but she wouldn't recommend it! HA HA HA !! Luckiky ,even with all her problems,she still has a good sense of humor. I tell her to gather up $2000.00 and we'll go get her a kidney in Palistan. We are bad!! Love,Jill We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Mon, December 28, 2009 2:53:27 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) I did mail it to my son's. To them there is nothing wrong with me.....only my middle son knows differently because he lived with me for a year. Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows Love, Lyncia From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> Subject: (unknown) To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 11:29 AM It does get annoying when people constantly ask you how you are feeling. It is just normal conversation, but is bothersome. Or when you go eat at someones and can't eat much of what they fix. They just don't get it with the sodium and beef and whatever, and they seem offended. I think I read much more into their comments than is really there often, also. Such a roller coaster ride. What you wrote Abijan, about this thing is very true. I think of e-mailing it to some family members, but then I think they will just feel I am whining. The deal with live donor, do you still have to be near death and have high MEL score to get a transplant that way? Like you would waiting for a liver while on the transplant list?Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 TOO FUNNY - I'll never be able to look at liver and onions the same way again!!! ________________________________ I agree that we have to have a sense of humor. Here's a few laughs for you all. When we went to the 1st center for my husband's evaluation we waited in a darkened hallway until 7:30 am when the clinic opened. When it did, the guy behind the counter was telling people to take a number. My son was with us and said to me, " it's like a deli counter. You give them your number and they give you a liver in a bag, then you take it down the hall and they put it in. " I answered, " we better get on line before they run out of livers. I'm desperate! I'll take one without onions! " Here's another laugh: My other son (we have twins) was at the diner with a friend who ordered liver and onions. When the order came he took a picture of the plate on his cell phone and sent it to me with a comment: 'this is so wrong!' And finally another laugh: We had been told that they do transplant surgery every tuesday at the center where we go. We were there on a tuesday once when my husband was having a proceedure done. I got on an elevator with a hospital worker who had a cart full of coolers and I'm thinking 'take your pick! Which ones have livers? Yup! That one looks like it'll fit! " You gotta be able to laugh! Love to all, Jackie > > From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> > Subject: (unknown) > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 11:29 AM > > > > It does get annoying when people constantly ask you how you are feeling. > It is just normal conversation, but is bothersome. Or when you go eat at > someones and can't eat much of what they fix. They just don't get it with > the sodium and beef and whatever, and they seem offended. I think I read > much more into their comments than is really there often, also. Such a > roller coaster ride. What you wrote Abijan, about this thing is very true.. > I think of e-mailing it to some family members, but then I think they will > just feel I am whining. The deal with live donor, do you still have to be > near death and have high MEL score to get a transplant that way? Like you > would waiting for a liver while on the transplant list?Dave > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I have always loved liver except for a short period after preparing it for my husband, forgetting that I was supposed to meet him somewhere. Two hours later, he came home wondering why I didn't meet him, and the liver was still being kept warm. Took a long time to get the smell out of that kitchen. But even now, when I go to a buffet, if they have liver, I can't pass it up, and I always say that well, body here is another liver, make good use of it. Jan H > > TOO FUNNY - I'll never be able to look at liver and onions the same way > again!!! > > > > > ________________________________ > > > I agree that we have to have a sense of humor. Here's a few laughs for you > all. When we went to the 1st center for my husband's evaluation we waited > in a darkened hallway until 7:30 am when the clinic opened. When it did, > the guy behind the counter was telling people to take a number. My son was > with us and said to me, " it's like a deli counter. You give them your > number and they give you a liver in a bag, then you take it down the hall > and they put it in. " I answered, " we better get on line before they run out > of livers. I'm desperate! I'll take one without onions! " Here's another > laugh: My other son (we have twins) was at the diner with a friend who > ordered liver and onions. When the order came he took a picture of the > plate on his cell phone and sent it to me with a comment: 'this is so > wrong!' And finally another laugh: We had been told that they do > transplant surgery every tuesday at the center where we go. We were there > on a tuesday once when my husband was having a proceedure done. I got on > an elevator with a hospital worker who had a cart full of coolers and I'm > thinking 'take your pick! Which ones have livers? Yup! That one looks > like it'll fit! " You gotta be able to laugh! Love to all, Jackie > > > > > > From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> > > Subject: (unknown) > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 11:29 AM > > > > > > > > It does get annoying when people constantly ask you how you are feeling. > > It is just normal conversation, but is bothersome. Or when you go eat at > > someones and can't eat much of what they fix. They just don't get it with > > the sodium and beef and whatever, and they seem offended. I think I read > > much more into their comments than is really there often, also. Such a > > roller coaster ride. What you wrote Abijan, about this thing is very > true.. > > I think of e-mailing it to some family members, but then I think they > will > > just feel I am whining. The deal with live donor, do you still have to be > > near death and have high MEL score to get a transplant that way? Like you > > would waiting for a liver while on the transplant list?Dave > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Jill I'm just so grateful that this bitch is my " step-sons " wife. Because of the misery she's been over the years, my own son is very sensitive to any control freak women out there. Says he'd rather stay alone than spend a life-time with a witch like her. Even her own son's roll their eyes behind her back when she gets going. My mother has had about six daughter-in-laws throughout. I have four brothers. She told me very quietly one time, that I may not like my son's choice someday. In other words, that means that she doesn't like all of those daughter-in-laws. However, I sure don't remember a single time in our lives that any of those daughter-in-laws were out and out rude to my mother. Not even the ones that have left the family (only if there were no kids of that union). In fact, my eldest brother's first wife was just up and spent Christmas with my folks. My brother and her have not been together for over 30 yrs. The other really sad thing about this woman, is that she is actually only 6 years younger than me!!! The step-son married a woman about 6 yrs older than himself, while his father married me a little later and I'm almost 9 yrs younger than him. We used to find humour in that because I am biologically incapable of being my step-son's mother. Gloria ________________________________ Gloria...about the ddaughter-in- law thing. I just don't know. My sister (the one w/kidney failure) has one that treats her the same way and writes her and Barry emails saying how awful they are and how they don't support their son,blah,blah, blah---actually I got some of those emails too! HA HA !! Mine has said some really ugly things to me and Ed.I would never.....not now,not 37 years ago.......would I have dreamed of treating my mother-in-law that way. But then we are a different generation. I just don't get it! We try to samile and love our son dearly...and we try to love his wife.,mostly because we have 4 grandchildren! Love,Jill We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Mon, December 28, 2009 6:04:55 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) Jill What is it about daughter-in- laws??? Are they really that frightened that their hubby's still have feelings for another woman (their mother)??? I think it's absolutely great that you and your sister can laugh in the middle of these horrendous health problems!! I do okay with the humour as long as I'm feeling okay; but, if I'm already away down, I can't seem to find that humour button. Gloria ____________ _________ _________ __ Lyncia..I know what you mean....I have a daughter-in- law that thinks I'm faking al my problenms and Ed's cirrhosis is not really serious. People! My sister has end stage kidney failure and cannot have a transplant. She's lost alot of weight. When someone sees her that hasn't for awhile...they tell her how good she looks and ask how she lost all that weight and what diet she used. She answers--kidney failure,but she wouldn't recommend it! HA HA HA !! Luckiky ,even with all her problems,she still has a good sense of humor. I tell her to gather up $2000.00 and we'll go get her a kidney in Palistan. We are bad!! Love,Jill We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Mon, December 28, 2009 2:53:27 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) I did mail it to my son's. To them there is nothing wrong with me.....only my middle son knows differently because he lived with me for a year. Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows Love, Lyncia From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> Subject: (unknown) To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 11:29 AM It does get annoying when people constantly ask you how you are feeling. It is just normal conversation, but is bothersome. Or when you go eat at someones and can't eat much of what they fix. They just don't get it with the sodium and beef and whatever, and they seem offended. I think I read much more into their comments than is really there often, also. Such a roller coaster ride. What you wrote Abijan, about this thing is very true. I think of e-mailing it to some family members, but then I think they will just feel I am whining. The deal with live donor, do you still have to be near death and have high MEL score to get a transplant that way? Like you would waiting for a liver while on the transplant list?Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Well, I need a kidney and liver so I should have twice the fun...........just like Doublemint gum.......Was that funny? Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows  Love, Lyncia   > > From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> > Subject: (unknown) > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 11:29 AM > > > > It does get annoying when people constantly ask you how you are feeling. > It is just normal conversation, but is bothersome. Or when you go eat at > someones and can't eat much of what they fix. They just don't get it with > the sodium and beef and whatever, and they seem offended. I think I read > much more into their comments than is really there often, also. Such a > roller coaster ride. What you wrote Abijan, about this thing is very true.. > I think of e-mailing it to some family members, but then I think they will > just feel I am whining. The deal with live donor, do you still have to be > near death and have high MEL score to get a transplant that way? Like you > would waiting for a liver while on the transplant list?Dave > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Gloria, don't feel like you are a whiner. I don't remember what stage you are at, but I don't think that matters. It is so shocking when we first learn we have " IT " that it really doesn't matter what stage we are in, it is traumatic. And we learn that the best possible outcome is a transplant which is one big operation. So, you aren't a whiner. Jan H > Jan > > The first level for me, not to take things so damn seriously, is to read > the posts from these couple of sites I go to!! First of all, to hear how > Jill and her sister can find something funny in such horribly sick times is > such a blessing. It encourages me to see things from a different angle when > I'm leaning toward feeling sorry for myself. Then, some of your stories are > so very very sad that it makes me feel like a first class whiner compared to > so many of you. > > Also, I can now find a little compassion in my heart for those people in > our lives (like daughters-in-laws or step-daughters) that have entirely > missed the whole point and opportunity!! I strongly believe that their > paths are going to be difficult in life and they will never realize it's > because they could only think of themselves. However, I have had a > difficult relationship with the daughter-in-law for so long, that now that > it's come to a head and is too broken to mend, I realize that I have nothing > to miss except a cruel, hurtful bitch that didn't belong in my world. It's > too bad that my step-son is so controlled by her that he dare not rock the > boat; but, that is a choice he made and has to live with too. > > Very often I have wondered if I had what it takes to be a really good > friend or daughter or sister or a wife - and be able to find the strength to > just be there for those that are ill. I now know with every fibre of my > being that I will not only be there; but, know a little bit more of what the > sick person probably needs the most. Like, if they need to talk about their > illness over and over and over - that's ok!! If they just need to cry or be > frightened - that ok!! I hope that nobody around me ever feels rejected, > invalidated or any of that because, I have learned so deeply what that feels > like. > > I do find " humour " in things most days, because when facing chronic > illness, why take things so seriously. However, I'm always at my worst the > first couple of days after a shot and since I fell so badly on Christmas > night, I just hurt that much more. Tomorrow will always be a better day!! > > Besides, my son is here for a visit and I haven't seen him for awhile!! At > least we spent a couple of hours today talking before he's off and running > to visit all his friends etc. and then his grandparents all before tomorrow > evening. > > Gloria > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Gloria - I hope you can find the humor( our spelling for your humour) > button. Maybe that is the problem, you have been spelling it wrong. [?] It > really does help to have a sense of humor about medical problems. I can't > say how I will be when I get worse, and pray that I will die of one of my > other medical problems so I don't hang around to the end with the liver > problems, but I told our Pastor's husband that I wanted to go out laughing, > and he said he thinks I will do it if anyone can. We do get into a > laughing mood around here every so often, hope we keep this up for awhile > and give you some ideas of what you can laugh about. Jan H > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> wrote: > > > Jill > > > > What is it about daughter-in- laws??? Are they really that frightened > that > > their hubby's still have feelings for another woman (their mother)??? > > > > I think it's absolutely great that you and your sister can laugh in the > > middle of these horrendous health problems!! I do okay with the humour > as > > long as I'm feeling okay; but, if I'm already away down, I can't seem to > > find that humour button. > > > > Gloria > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Lyncia..I know what you mean....I have a daughter-in- law that thinks I'm > > faking al my problenms and Ed's cirrhosis is not really serious. People! > My > > sister has end stage kidney failure and cannot have a transplant. She's > lost > > alot of weight. When someone sees her that hasn't for awhile...they tell > her > > how good she looks and ask how she lost all that weight and what diet she > > used. She answers--kidney failure,but she wouldn't recommend it! HA HA HA > !! > > Luckiky ,even with all her problems,she still has a good sense of humor. > I > > tell her to gather up $2000.00 and we'll go get her a kidney in Palistan. > We > > are bad!! > > > > > > Love,Jill > > > > We don't remember days, we remember moments. > > Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take > > our breath away. > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Sent: Mon, December 28, 2009 2:53:27 PM > > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > > > > > I did mail it to my son's. To them there is nothing wrong with > me.....only > > my middle son knows differently because he lived with me for a year. > > > > Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows > > > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > > > > > > > From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> > > Subject: (unknown) > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 11:29 AM > > > > > > > > It does get annoying when people constantly ask you how you are feeling. > > It is just normal conversation, but is bothersome. Or when you go eat > at > > someones and can't eat much of what they fix. They just don't get it > with > > the sodium and beef and whatever, and they seem offended. I think I read > > much more into their comments than is really there often, also. Such a > > roller coaster ride. What you wrote Abijan, about this thing is very > true. > > I think of e-mailing it to some family members, but then I think they > will > > just feel I am whining. The deal with live donor, do you still have to > be > > near death and have high MEL score to get a transplant that way? Like > you > > would waiting for a liver while on the transplant list?Dave > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 [?][?][?] to the turkey liver. Jan H On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:21 AM, wendy miller wrote: > I'm laughing Lyncia!! Sorry for being such a poop head last > evening,everything just got to me all at once,and I felt like crawling in > the corner and crying,and that is so out of character for me.I put on such a > fake fasade with my family that I'm always alright,that sometimes I 'm just > NOT,and when everyone comes at me at once for favores,I wanna say any of you > gonna give me a new liver!!Even though I know I can't have a live donor.My > mom did pick up the liver from my turkey from my sink on thanksgiving and > put it under my ribcage and said NAW,to small....:)--You guys are the best > medicine the doctor could ever order!! Love you all! Hugs, > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: livercirrhosissupport > Sent: Mon, December 28, 2009 10:43:27 PM > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > Well, I need a kidney and liver so I should have twice the > fun...........just like Doublemint gum.......Was that funny? > > > > Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > > > From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> > > Subject: (unknown) > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 11:29 AM > > > > > > > > It does get annoying when people constantly ask you how you are feeling. > > It is just normal conversation, but is bothersome. Or when you go eat at > > someones and can't eat much of what they fix. They just don't get it with > > the sodium and beef and whatever, and they seem offended. I think I read > > much more into their comments than is really there often, also. Such a > > roller coaster ride. What you wrote Abijan, about this thing is very > true.. > > I think of e-mailing it to some family members, but then I think they > will > > just feel I am whining. The deal with live donor, do you still have to be > > near death and have high MEL score to get a transplant that way? Like you > > would waiting for a liver while on the transplant list?Dave > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Dave - how are the people that you have been taking care of? is that what the stress is? Or is my memory playing tricks on me? My cardio put me on xanax to cut down on the strain on my heart from stress, don't know how you feel about medications like that, but has helped me a lot. Jan H > Not been feeling good lately..in one of the valley's of this disease..may > be sticking me in hospital soon..was doing good, but had a lot of stress > happening lately. > Dave > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 My buddy died about a month ago, my daughter was diagnosed with fluid on her spine last week..is seeing neurologist in two weeks..my Pop is deaf as a post, and turns volume up so loud it rattles the walls...thats with his hearing aids in! I feel not so good physically or mentally..we all have our problem's..hate to complain..seems they come in big numbers all at once..    Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 7:20:46 PM Subject: Re: (unknown)  Dave - how are the people that you have been taking care of? is that what the stress is? Or is my memory playing tricks on me? My cardio put me on xanax to cut down on the strain on my heart from stress, don't know how you feel about medications like that, but has helped me a lot. Jan H On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 6:04 PM, dave dodds <daveliltoeyahoo (DOT) com> wrote: > Not been feeling good lately..in one of the valley's of this disease..may > be sticking me in hospital soon..was doing good, but had a lot of stress > happening lately. > Dave > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 hope you're feeling better by the time you read this. You are in my prayers. Jackie Subject: (unknown) To: livercirrhosissupport Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 8:04 PM  Not been feeling good lately..in one of the valley's of this disease..may be sticking me in hospital soon..was doing good, but had a lot of stress happening lately.   Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 My daughters condition is called syrinx..have read more about it than I want to know already..she is also splitting with my grandsons dad..he is a not a good person, but they co-signed on a house together less than a yr. ago..a real mess..I feel like I have to be this strong person, but it just isn't so..  Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 7:20:46 PM Subject: Re: (unknown)  Dave - how are the people that you have been taking care of? is that what the stress is? Or is my memory playing tricks on me? My cardio put me on xanax to cut down on the strain on my heart from stress, don't know how you feel about medications like that, but has helped me a lot. Jan H On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 6:04 PM, dave dodds <daveliltoeyahoo (DOT) com> wrote: > Not been feeling good lately..in one of the valley's of this disease..may > be sticking me in hospital soon..was doing good, but had a lot of stress > happening lately. > Dave > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Sorry to hear it,Dave..sounds like it's coming at you in buckets!                                                                            Love,Jill  We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 8:37:41 PM Subject: Re: (unknown)  My buddy died about a month ago, my daughter was diagnosed with fluid on her spine last week..is seeing neurologist in two weeks..my Pop is deaf as a post, and turns volume up so loud it rattles the walls...thats with his hearing aids in! I feel not so good physically or mentally..we all have our problem's..hate to complain..seems they come in big numbers all at once..    Dave ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Jan Holman <janholmangmail (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 7:20:46 PM Subject: Re: (unknown)  Dave - how are the people that you have been taking care of? is that what the stress is? Or is my memory playing tricks on me? My cardio put me on xanax to cut down on the strain on my heart from stress, don't know how you feel about medications like that, but has helped me a lot. Jan H On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 6:04 PM, dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> wrote: > Not been feeling good lately..in one of the valley's of this disease..may > be sticking me in hospital soon..was doing good, but had a lot of stress > happening lately. > Dave > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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