Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weight

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My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of

chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken,carrots, and

celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly coated

with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed Vegetables,

organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating

every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be doing

this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?

[Guest guest]

This is very common. Possibly, it means too much thyroid hormone,

signaling the body to burn too much energy. Also, it could be that his

adrenal glands are not making enough (or the right amount of) cortisol.

Here is a cool link:

<http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp>

I hope it helps you find some clues as to what is causing it. I still

haven't studied the thyroid, adrenals, and pancreas enough to

understand what is going on with them and why the imbalances happen in

our kids. I DO know that there is often a history of thyroid problems

in families of children with autism (whether it is known or not).

I certainly believe that having adrenal cortex extract on hand is a

good thing for people who are doing chelation and other forms of detox.

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> My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of

> chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken,carrots, and

> celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly

coated

> with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed

Vegetables,

> organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating

> every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be

doing

> this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?

>

[Guest guest]

for us overeating and not putting on weight was most probably linked to

gut issues (bad bacteria, reflux etc) as it got much better when we

started SCD and then improved even more when we introduced enzymes,

natural antibacterials etc.

Natasa

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> > My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of

> > chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken,carrots, and

> > celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly

> coated

> > with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed

> Vegetables,

> > organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating

> > every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be

> doing

> > this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The only thing I can find is Mung Bean noodles by Eden foods. They are like transparent asian noodles. Is that similar to what you have? I will be doing research on changing my fish oil and probiotic today. I am also ordering the SCD diet book today. Thanks! I am so glad to have so many great suggestions!

From: Christel King <christel76@together .net>Subject: Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weightTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 1:43 PM

leaky gut....meaning his gut is in shreds so it can't absorb anything, MUCH of what you have listed are also yeast feeders so it's likly one of the big causes ripping UP the gut, to stop the cycle you would have to stop feeding the yeast so it can die off and get out of the gut and the gut repair itself. things like L-gluamine can help speed up repair, and to help get rid of yeast you can do things like GSE, nystatine, diflucan, biotin, high dose probiotics, caprilic acid, garlic, cranberries, ect.....the rice is a HUGE yeast feeder, apples and bananas as well. the fruit leathers would be HUGE yeast feeders and depending on the tueky breast slices (are we talking deli meats??) they may have added sugar and may not be gfcf which cn also have issues in and of itself. in place of the rice pasta you could try bean pastas, in place of the applesauce do pear sause, for other fruits stick to berries, blackberries,

raspberries, blueberries and cranberries (NON SWEETENED) think meats and veggies as much as possible

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Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weight

My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken, carrots, and celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly coated with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed Vegetables, organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be doing this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?

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[Guest guest]

this is exactly bms our son had before SCD. while waiting for the book

you can also read info on the website

http://breakingtheviciouscycle.info/autism/autism.htm

maybe try Houston Enzymes in addition or instead of the one you are

using (?), also Enzymedica is a very good brand...

Natasa

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> > My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of

> > chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken, carrots, and

> > celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly

> coated

> > with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed

> Vegetables,

> > organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be eating

> > every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be

> doing

> > this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?

> >

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You might consider the possibility of parasites. The combination of

eating a lot and not gaining makes me think of this. Does your child

have an itch anal area? What about grinding of the teeth? What about

worse behavior around the full moon? Those are some symptoms I have

read about.

Irene

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In our house these symptoms were parasites also. In addition, other

symptoms can include alternating between constipation and diarreah,

itchy nose and night waking between 2-4 AM. Have you run a stool test

lately? If you just want to check for parasites only, Metametrix has

a parasitoloty stool test for around $100.

It took us 4 months to finally get rid of parasite.

Good Luck!

julia

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> You might consider the possibility of parasites. The combination of

> eating a lot and not gaining makes me think of this. Does your

child

> have an itch anal area? What about grinding of the teeth? What

about

> worse behavior around the full moon? Those are some symptoms I have

> read about.

>

> Irene

>

[Guest guest]

fruit is not allowed only in the first few days, then it is peeled and

cooked for a while... then you can have it in moderate amounts, or more

if tolerated - depends on individuals

Natasa

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> > > My son has recently been eating all the time. Bowl after bowl of

> > > chicken and noodle made with brown rice pasta,chicken, carrots,

and

> > > celery. Chicken nuggets made with fresh chicken breasts lightly

> > coated

> > > with rice flour and seasonings. Applesauce, Bananas, pureed

> > Vegetables,

> > > organic fruit leathers, turkey breast slices. He seems to be

eating

> > > every 30 minutes. Does anyone have any suggestions why he may be

> > doing

> > > this and still why he doesn't manage to gain much weight?

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Yes, we recently had a comprehensive stool analysis and it showed no parasites. We had some bad bacteria which we took Cipro for and a +1 on yeast. Two strands of good bacteria were not even detected, so we are taking a probiotic with those.

Subject: Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weightTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 7:01 PM

In our house these symptoms were parasites also. In addition, other symptoms can include alternating between constipation and diarreah, itchy nose and night waking between 2-4 AM. Have you run a stool test lately? If you just want to check for parasites only, Metametrix has a parasitoloty stool test for around $100.It took us 4 months to finally get rid of parasite.Good Luck!julia>> You might consider the possibility of parasites. The combination of > eating a lot and not gaining makes me think of this. Does your child > have an itch anal area? What about grinding of the teeth? What about > worse behavior around the full moon? Those are some symptoms I have > read about.> >

Irene>

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I'm curious as to which bad bacteria you had and if the cipro helped. This situation sounds like my daughter's, and I haven't given her the antibiotic yet...I've been scared it will kill off even more of her good bacteria, and like yours, she had two strains not detected

From: <rickjuliarusso@ comcast.net>Subject: Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weightTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 7:01 PM

In our house these symptoms were parasites also. In addition, other symptoms can include alternating between constipation and diarreah, itchy nose and night waking between 2-4 AM. Have you run a stool test lately? If you just want to check for parasites only, Metametrix has a parasitoloty stool test for around $100.It took us 4 months to finally get rid of parasite.Good Luck!julia>> You might consider the possibility of parasites. The combination of > eating a lot and not gaining makes me think of this. Does your child > have an itch anal area? What about grinding of the teeth? What about > worse behavior around the full moon? Those are some symptoms I have > read about.> >

Irene>

[Guest guest]

, I'm still waiting for my test to come. In the mean time, can you share how you get rid of the parasites?  Thanks.Amber

In our house these symptoms were parasites also. In addition, other

symptoms can include alternating between constipation and diarreah,

itchy nose and night waking between 2-4 AM. Have you run a stool test

lately? If you just want to check for parasites only, Metametrix has

a parasitoloty stool test for around $100.

It took us 4 months to finally get rid of parasite.

Good Luck!

julia

>

> You might consider the possibility of parasites. The combination of

> eating a lot and not gaining makes me think of this. Does your

child

> have an itch anal area? What about grinding of the teeth? What

about

> worse behavior around the full moon? Those are some symptoms I have

> read about.

>

> Irene

>

[Guest guest]

Amber,

We used 3 different treatments to finally get rid of those darn

things.

First we did 30 days of a product called Humaworm. It is an herbal

combination and it worked wonders. 2 weeks after the treatment

ended, they were back. Next our DAN prescribed Alinia. Again, it

is a 2 week Rx and as soon as the treatment was over, parasites

returned. Finally we tried a Bioray product called Artemesia and

Clove and that is what did the trick. I love that stuff.

That said, we started LDN and Epicor Jr. after the first round of

Humaworm. My son had very low fecal Slg A so there was no gut

barrier immunity. I think he just kept picking up a new parasite

and didn't have the imuume strength to fight them off.

Like natural yeast fighters, you can't stay on the same herbal

parasite protocol for too long or it will stop working.

Both Humaworm and Bioray recommend doing a parasite clense I believe

every 3-6 months. We are doing one right now. Also, it is a good

idea to treat the whole family at once as these suckers are very

contagious within a household.

Ridding parasites led to one of the largest gains in my son's

recovery.

Good Luck,

> >

> > You might consider the possibility of parasites. The combination

of

> > eating a lot and not gaining makes me think of this. Does your

> child

> > have an itch anal area? What about grinding of the teeth? What

> about

> > worse behavior around the full moon? Those are some symptoms I

have

> > read about.

> >

> > Irene

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks . I will keep note of this.. I'm crossed my fingers that I'm one step less! Many thanks for your response.Amber

Amber,

We used 3 different treatments to finally get rid of those darn

things.

First we did 30 days of a product called Humaworm. It is an herbal

combination and it worked wonders. 2 weeks after the treatment

ended, they were back. Next our DAN prescribed Alinia. Again, it

is a 2 week Rx and as soon as the treatment was over, parasites

returned. Finally we tried a Bioray product called Artemesia and

Clove and that is what did the trick. I love that stuff..

That said, we started LDN and Epicor Jr. after the first round of

Humaworm. My son had very low fecal Slg A so there was no gut

barrier immunity. I think he just kept picking up a new parasite

and didn't have the imuume strength to fight them off.

Like natural yeast fighters, you can't stay on the same herbal

parasite protocol for too long or it will stop working.

Both Humaworm and Bioray recommend doing a parasite clense I believe

every 3-6 months. We are doing one right now. Also, it is a good

idea to treat the whole family at once as these suckers are very

contagious within a household.

Ridding parasites led to one of the largest gains in my son's

recovery.

Good Luck,

> >

> > You might consider the possibility of parasites. The combination

of

> > eating a lot and not gaining makes me think of this. Does your

> child

> > have an itch anal area? What about grinding of the teeth? What

> about

> > worse behavior around the full moon? Those are some symptoms I

have

> > read about.

> >

> > Irene

> >

>

[Guest guest]

We took the Cipro and just made sure to give extra probiotics before, during, and after. My son had no negative reactions from it at all. I noticed no major changes in his behavior either, but like I said, we do not get another stool sample done until Feb.

From: <rickjuliarusso@ comcast.net>Subject: Re: Excessive eating? He eats all the time,but does not seem to gain weightTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 7:01 PM

In our house these symptoms were parasites also. In addition, other symptoms can include alternating between constipation and diarreah, itchy nose and night waking between 2-4 AM. Have you run a stool test lately? If you just want to check for parasites only, Metametrix has a parasitoloty stool test for around $100.It took us 4 months to finally get rid of parasite.Good Luck!julia>> You might consider the possibility of parasites. The combination of > eating a lot and not gaining makes me think of this. Does your child > have an itch anal area? What about grinding of the teeth? What about > worse behavior around the full moon? Those are some symptoms I have > read about.> >

Irene>