] Re:Do Schaller&Shoemaker still interpret genetic tests?(REPLY)

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In a message dated 12/7/2006 2:03:52 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

npzjewel6@... writes:

Needless to say, after a first visit (in which we were insulted because our

clothes smelled of toxins) and labs, we returned to get the results of our

childs lab work. Dr. Schaller wanted to treat our child intravenously for Lyme.

We were amazed, as this was not something that we had thought we were

looking for. Before leaving his office, we were to sign several of his standard

release forms in which he explains on each of them that in NO way is he

experienced or will be held liable with his modest self training to treat

intravenously for lyme.

**********You need to step back and do some research on Lyme disease....I

have said it for over a year that Lyme is VERY common with Moldies and vice

versa....I do hours of volunteer work within the Lyme communities and IF Dr

Schaller says your child needed to be treated for Lyme disease, then I would

bet

my child on that decision.

We left, thought things out, cancelled the next apt. and made an apt. with

an infectious disease expert to have a second opinion.

**********Right now the IDSA (infectious disease docs) are SNOOKERING

patients and causing deaths and lots of suffering....there is a WAR, yes I said

WAR

going on right now with several LLMD's=Lyme Literate Medical Doctors, who

are standing up to the CDC and Infectious disease (IDIOTS). There was just a

huge Lyme Rally last week in Connecticut as well as a demonstration at the

hospital of the idiot doctors who wrote the Infectious Disease guidelines.

Children are DYING as well as adults....many are being misdiagnosed with ALS,

MS,

Parkinson and Autism, who actually have Lyme disease, they are suffering and

DYING.... I wouldn't go to an infectious disease doctor, if they were the

last damn doctor on this earth. I DO NOT TRUST THEM, as they have proven with

this Lyme fiasco. BEWARE and BE FOREWARNED...

That next opinion, two more and our last opinion- from DR. SHOEMAKER in

land all came back negative. There was never a positive Western blot or any

other type of Lyme test that came back that would have given him (or any

doctor) cause to treat our child for Lyme.

*********Were those blood test done at IgeneX or Bowen Labs??? If they were

not done there, then you got FALSE NEGATIVES, which is common, as the

and Western Blot has a 65% FALSE NEGATIVE rate.

*********TRUST ME, I'm a LYME victim and MOLD victim, this is nothing to

mess with and you are playing Russian roulette by listening to the infectious

disease doctors.

Personally, living in an area where Dr. Schaller practices, living with

biotoxin illness myself and trying to continue seeing the physicians that I

have

seen locally (who I would like to follow Dr. Shoemaker's protocol -because I

absolutely respect his work and continue to be a

patient of his) I have found that in the local medical community I live in

he has done much to undermine the work of a genius (Dr. Shoemaker).

***************Dr Shoemaker is an excellent doctor and his MOLD work is

EXCELLENT, but I'm not familiar with any Lyme patients he has treated. I'm on

a

private doctors Lyme Literate doctors lists with him and can't remember

reading comments about Lyme disease. His work is BIOTOXINS and MOLD at which

he

is a genius with, but I can't say I would go to him for Lyme disease.

In all of this though, I feel, UNLESS you are going to a physician as

educated in biotoxin illness such as Dr.Shoemaker, it can never hurt to get a

second opinion on something as important as Lyme disease etc.

************Well, an infectious disease doctor is the LAST doctor I would go

to for Lyme disease. They are lying bastards and are putting many lives in

jeopardy... FOLLOW THE MONEY.....these boys and girls are NOT to be

trusted....AT ALL!!

**********You insist on Lyme blood work from IgeneX in California and/or

Bowen Lab in Florida and do NOT trust any other labs to give you a reading on

Lyme blood work.

**********Please I am serious....letting Lyme grow deeper into your body and

going completely chronic (which usually happens after 30 days from exposure

without treatment), then you are jumping into the ride from hell, for the

rest of your life.

**********Lyme is very contagious...it is found in semen, vaginal fluids,

tear ducts, saliva and blood for a start.....You don't have to have a tick bite

to be infected with Lyme. Mosquitoes, fleas, dog and cat ear mites, birds,

rodents, etc.,e tc., etc., are ALL carriers of Lyme....There have found

microscopic Lyme under the skin.

It also never hurts to listen to your gut instinct and if something does not

seem " right " listen to what you are feeling. I too am sick - even when we

cannot think clearly, we still have inner wisdom.

I am not the person to ever speak poorly about someone, but I have seen and

am watching so many people struggle with this illness - if this experience

can help someone, than I don't mind being vocal and sharing this information.

My advice is send to Dr.Shoemaker.

*********Dr Shoemaker is the one to see for MOLD, but if there is a chance

your child has LYME, DO NOT TRUST INFECTIOUS DISEASE DOCTORS TO DIAGNOSE

THEM.....find you a LLMY=Lyme Literate doctor to help you. BTW,

Dr Schaller has many family members who are suffering from Lyme and I

believe he himself has had it and is a remission??

***********There are literally THOUSANDS of Moldies who are cross infected

with Lyme disease and vice versa, and do NOT know it....Protect your child and

have further testing at Bowen Labs and/or IgeneX....you will not regret

it....

Angel Huggzzz

or Angel

_www.lymecommunity.com_ (http://www.lymecommunity.com) <<<'s BLOGS on

Lyme disease....

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> ***************Dr Shoemaker is an excellent doctor and his MOLD work is

> EXCELLENT, but I'm not familiar with any Lyme patients he has treated. I'm on

a

> private doctors Lyme Literate doctors lists with him and can't remember

> reading comments about Lyme disease. His work is BIOTOXINS and MOLD at which

he

> is a genius with, but I can't say I would go to him for Lyme disease.

I am a Lyme patient that went to Dr. Shoemaker for treatment as I wanted a

doctor that would do an adequate differential diagnosis and not just give me

more abx. Dr. Shoemaker felt I had had more than enough abx for the Lyme (he

(thankfully) does not believe in long term abx for Lyme). He believed the major

issue was the toxins from Lyme and mold. I had a hard time accepting the mold

part as I knew I had Lyme - positive Igenex test and I had the classic onset of

symptoms and knew when I was bitten by the tick. The only treatment option I

was given by local Lyme Literate doctor was long term abx, which just made me

sicker. Local Lyme doctor also didn't think gluten intolerance/celiac was

something to worry about. It was a big issue and I got tremendous symptom

relief. Dr. Shoemaker does know Lyme as he's had it himself several times. His

research also includes many Lyme patients. He presents regularly at conferences

attended by Lyme literate physicians. He's doing leading

edge research on the use of C4A and C3A in diagnosing Lyme.

I personally believe the approach by Lyme literate doctors like Klinghardt and

Kinderleher is a better approach for some folks, particularly those with the

dreaded genotype, who very rarely recover from Lyme with abx alone. Indeed many

are like myself and only get sicker on long term abx.

My personal experience within the Lyme community is that there are many more of

them that need to consider their predisposition for mold (25% of the population)

than there are mold folks that need to worry about Lyme treatment. I'm not

intending to minimize the impact of Lyme - truly I know first hand how

tremendously devastating it is, but I also know from Lyme research and attending

conferences with these top Lyme doctors that an equally important issue with

Lyme is dealing with all the other diseases that are triggered by Lyme depending

upon one's genetic makeup that no amount of abx can fix. There's just no going

back once you've had Lyme - the best you can do is to try and improve your

immune system to minimize its impact. And living in a house with mold while

taking I/V abx for Lyme is plain stupid, but I know folks that are doing just

that.

Regards,

B.