Re: panic when exposed? (The term 'Fear' is more appropriate, I think)

[Guest guest]

I DON'T think the word 'panic' is appropriate. I think 'fear' is more

appropriate for exposure situations.

Our lives fall apart because of these toxic exposures, and as almost always,

the moment that they happen is something we can't control, its particularly

terrifying. If we are at work, or where we live and we can't just abandon

ship and move immediately, for example. We usualy have to just deal with it

and often the outcome is disaster.

Felice, please try to look at it this way. You wouldn't like me if I kept

making fun of you because you were a woman, would you?

If every time you got angry about something that was menacing your family, I

rolled my eyes and accused you of having 'another panic attack'? " Just those

hormones acting up again', or something like that. Well, I'm man enough to

know blatant sexism when I see it and I see stuff like that all the time and

it makes me mad, even though I am male. When a man does that, he embarasses

other men. And he shows his own insecurity.

Well, many of the people who are attacking us are experts at this kind of

changing the subject.. Language is very important in how people see things.

Using any term like " panic attack " trivializes the situation - which is one

that really does have the potential to make most of our next few days

terrible, at best. It falsely pretends that we are the problem, and not the

toxic substance.

I think that the term " fear " or " terror " correctly identifies the problem as

being something that can and has already hurt us. Most of us have had

terrible things happen to our lives because of our mold illness. And the

typical game that gets played with us is that its all in our heads. Nobody

can tell you what your oen experience is, but they try to and this makes

many people waste years in a fruitless search for cures from people who

don't have a clue when we already know the answer that would help us, but we

don't want to deal with that challenge.. Fear is the appropriate reaction..

We have lost loves, jobs, homes, careers. Wouldn't being again exposed to

the thing that made you so ill before scare anybody?

Would you say that I was 'having a panic attack' if someone was shooting at

me and I ran? If I collapsed afterward, my heart beating wildly, knowing

that I came close to something very bad? Would that be a sign of mental

instability?

No, I think that it is a sign of sanity...

Think about that...

[Guest guest]

the only fear i get from it is the fear that this may be the one that

causes cancerous cells to cluster, other than that,after recovering

somewhat, i get fusterated because i know its going to affect the

rest of my day and make me fell worse than i did.

>

> I DON'T think the word 'panic' is appropriate. I think 'fear' is

more

> appropriate for exposure situations.

>

> Our lives fall apart because of these toxic exposures, and as

almost always,

> the moment that they happen is something we can't control, its

particularly

> terrifying. If we are at work, or where we live and we can't just

abandon

> ship and move immediately, for example. We usualy have to just deal

with it

> and often the outcome is disaster.

>

> Felice, please try to look at it this way. You wouldn't like me if

I kept

> making fun of you because you were a woman, would you?

> If every time you got angry about something that was menacing your

family, I

> rolled my eyes and accused you of having 'another panic

attack'? " Just those

> hormones acting up again', or something like that. Well, I'm man

enough to

> know blatant sexism when I see it and I see stuff like that all the

time and

> it makes me mad, even though I am male. When a man does that, he

embarasses

> other men. And he shows his own insecurity.

>

> Well, many of the people who are attacking us are experts at this

kind of

> changing the subject.. Language is very important in how people see

things.

>

> Using any term like " panic attack " trivializes the situation -

which is one

> that really does have the potential to make most of our next few

days

> terrible, at best. It falsely pretends that we are the problem, and

not the

> toxic substance.

>

> I think that the term " fear " or " terror " correctly identifies the

problem as

> being something that can and has already hurt us. Most of us have

had

> terrible things happen to our lives because of our mold illness.

And the

> typical game that gets played with us is that its all in our heads.

Nobody

> can tell you what your oen experience is, but they try to and this

makes

> many people waste years in a fruitless search for cures from people

who

> don't have a clue when we already know the answer that would help

us, but we

> don't want to deal with that challenge.. Fear is the appropriate

reaction..

>

>

> We have lost loves, jobs, homes, careers. Wouldn't being again

exposed to

> the thing that made you so ill before scare anybody?

>

> Would you say that I was 'having a panic attack' if someone was

shooting at

> me and I ran? If I collapsed afterward, my heart beating wildly,

knowing

> that I came close to something very bad? Would that be a sign of

mental

> instability?

>

> No, I think that it is a sign of sanity...

>

> Think about that...

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

ACTUALLY I SHOULD OF SAID'EFFECT ME ANYWHERE FROM HOURS TO DAYS AND

SOME OF THEM EFFECT ME FOR MONTHS

> >

> > I DON'T think the word 'panic' is appropriate. I think 'fear' is

> more

> > appropriate for exposure situations.

> >

> > Our lives fall apart because of these toxic exposures, and as

> almost always,

> > the moment that they happen is something we can't control, its

> particularly

> > terrifying. If we are at work, or where we live and we can't just

> abandon

> > ship and move immediately, for example. We usualy have to just

deal

> with it

> > and often the outcome is disaster.

> >

> > Felice, please try to look at it this way. You wouldn't like me

if

> I kept

> > making fun of you because you were a woman, would you?

> > If every time you got angry about something that was menacing

your

> family, I

> > rolled my eyes and accused you of having 'another panic

> attack'? " Just those

> > hormones acting up again', or something like that. Well, I'm man

> enough to

> > know blatant sexism when I see it and I see stuff like that all

the

> time and

> > it makes me mad, even though I am male. When a man does that, he

> embarasses

> > other men. And he shows his own insecurity.

> >

> > Well, many of the people who are attacking us are experts at this

> kind of

> > changing the subject.. Language is very important in how people

see

> things.

> >

> > Using any term like " panic attack " trivializes the situation -

> which is one

> > that really does have the potential to make most of our next few

> days

> > terrible, at best. It falsely pretends that we are the problem,

and

> not the

> > toxic substance.

> >

> > I think that the term " fear " or " terror " correctly identifies the

> problem as

> > being something that can and has already hurt us. Most of us have

> had

> > terrible things happen to our lives because of our mold illness.

> And the

> > typical game that gets played with us is that its all in our

heads.

> Nobody

> > can tell you what your oen experience is, but they try to and

this

> makes

> > many people waste years in a fruitless search for cures from

people

> who

> > don't have a clue when we already know the answer that would help

> us, but we

> > don't want to deal with that challenge.. Fear is the appropriate

> reaction..

> >

> >

> > We have lost loves, jobs, homes, careers. Wouldn't being again

> exposed to

> > the thing that made you so ill before scare anybody?

> >

> > Would you say that I was 'having a panic attack' if someone was

> shooting at

> > me and I ran? If I collapsed afterward, my heart beating wildly,

> knowing

> > that I came close to something very bad? Would that be a sign of

> mental

> > instability?

> >

> > No, I think that it is a sign of sanity...

> >

> > Think about that...

> >

> >

> >