Re: NEED A DOCTOR IN SC

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

> I need a good enviromental and ENT doctor. I live in the upperstate

of

> SC in . I am willing to go within driving distance and even

> spend the night if the driving distance is too many miles. I am very

> sick right now and I cannot afford a doctor who will not accept

> insurance and wants up front money. Ihave been at this for many years

> right now. At times I feel as if I am dying. I can't go on like this

> and the many doctors I have seen around here have not helped me at

> all. Does anyone know of any doctors I can go to who accepts

insurance

> and not expect a hefty up-front fee? As with most of you, due to

> illness and not working, I am broke. If anyone knows of any good

> doctors in my area, please let me know.

> Thanks,

> Jackie

>

This isn't he answer you're wanting, but Pocomoke should be within a

day's drive for you (Google maps shows it to be about a 9.5 hour drive)

and while Dr. Shoemaker accepts few insurances (I think he takes

Medicare and some local insurances), it is still well worth the

investment in terms of money you'll save by going to someone that has a

clue. His upfront fee is a fraction of what the top CFS/FM doctors

charges and any follow-ups are an absolute bargain compared to these

other docs. His office does provide the forms that you can file with

your insurance for out of network benefits and you should be able to

battle them to get them considered as in-network since there's not

likely an in-network doctor that is experienced in treating mold

illnesses. The lab fees can really add up, but the majority of mine

were run in standards labs that accept my insurance, so I paid very

little out-of-pocket for those.

I'm speaking from personal experience having tried to save money for

several years by using local doctors and spending a lot more in pain,

suffering and real dollars by paying these people that were telling me

there was nothing wrong with me (and to just take high doses of a

thyroid medicine to which I was allergic and just drink a glass of wine

if I had trouble sleeping at nite). I even spent $600 out of pocket

taking my oldest son to a top allergy doctor in our area that the

pediatrician recommended. It took me over 2 years of constant

searching and reading to come across Shoemaker's research and then

another 6 months trying to convince my local doctor to run all the

tests to finally make the trip from Texas. My local doctor happily

prescribed CSM, but I had a feeling based on the gene information I

already had and symptoms that I would be one of the tough cases. I'm

also one of the unfortunate ones that didn't realize I had a mold issue

and I was going to him for objective treatment/diagnosis for my Lyme

disease, only to have him tell me I had a mold problem. It took me

another 4 months to fully accept that. Since, you're already there, I

can't recommend strongly enough that you travel to Pocomoke. Since

seeing him, I've tried to find a local doctor that has a clue and even

with the test results in black and white, most of them are still

overwhelmed with the information and the theories. And, most of them

don't have the time to read the materials that I'm willing to provide.

It's a very sad reflection of our current medical system in this

country and I wouldn't expect it to be much different in your area of

the country than it is in Texas.

Peace and healing,

B

[Guest guest]

>

> _http://www.anapsid.org/cnd/support/index.html_

> (http://www.anapsid.org/cnd/support/index.html)

>

> Check this site out. It is for Chronic fatigue and Fibromyalgia.

There is a

> list of Drs. by country and state.

>

> Sue

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I heard that Dr Lieberman is great but also very pricy. I gave his

office a call once but I could not get them to give me an approx

price. I know they can't give an exact price but if I am going to

pay up front money, I need to know as I may not have it to pay. I am

very far from rich and right now, I am pretty much broke but I have

good insurance, for once.

Many folks suggest Dr. Shoemaker, he is too far away. I need someone

who is no farther than 5 hours away from me as I know I will need to

visit such a doctor a few times. I want to be able to make all of my

appointments without the added stress of how and I going to afford a

trip and etc.

Dr Liberman is exactly 5 hours away. The problem is, he does not

take insurance.

> >

> > Hi,

> > I need a good enviromental and ENT doctor. I live in the

upperstate

> of

> > SC in . I am willing to go within driving distance and

even

> > spend the night if the driving distance is too many miles. I am

very

> > sick right now and I cannot afford a doctor who will not accept

> > insurance and wants up front money. Ihave been at this for many

years

> > right now. At times I feel as if I am dying. I can't go on like

this

> > and the many doctors I have seen around here have not helped me

at

> > all. Does anyone know of any doctors I can go to who accepts

> insurance

> > and not expect a hefty up-front fee? As with most of you, due to

> > illness and not working, I am broke. If anyone knows of any good

> > doctors in my area, please let me know.

> > Thanks,

> > Jackie

> >

> This isn't he answer you're wanting, but Pocomoke should be within

a

> day's drive for you (Google maps shows it to be about a 9.5 hour

drive)

> and while Dr. Shoemaker accepts few insurances (I think he takes

> Medicare and some local insurances), it is still well worth the

> investment in terms of money you'll save by going to someone that

has a

> clue. His upfront fee is a fraction of what the top CFS/FM doctors

> charges and any follow-ups are an absolute bargain compared to

these

> other docs. His office does provide the forms that you can file

with

> your insurance for out of network benefits and you should be able

to

> battle them to get them considered as in-network since there's not

> likely an in-network doctor that is experienced in treating mold

> illnesses. The lab fees can really add up, but the majority of mine

> were run in standards labs that accept my insurance, so I paid very

> little out-of-pocket for those.

>

> I'm speaking from personal experience having tried to save money

for

> several years by using local doctors and spending a lot more in

pain,

> suffering and real dollars by paying these people that were telling

me

> there was nothing wrong with me (and to just take high doses of a

> thyroid medicine to which I was allergic and just drink a glass of

wine

> if I had trouble sleeping at nite). I even spent $600 out of pocket

> taking my oldest son to a top allergy doctor in our area that the

> pediatrician recommended. It took me over 2 years of constant

> searching and reading to come across Shoemaker's research and then

> another 6 months trying to convince my local doctor to run all the

> tests to finally make the trip from Texas. My local doctor happily

> prescribed CSM, but I had a feeling based on the gene information I

> already had and symptoms that I would be one of the tough cases.

I'm

> also one of the unfortunate ones that didn't realize I had a mold

issue

> and I was going to him for objective treatment/diagnosis for my

Lyme

> disease, only to have him tell me I had a mold problem. It took me

> another 4 months to fully accept that. Since, you're already there,

I

> can't recommend strongly enough that you travel to Pocomoke. Since

> seeing him, I've tried to find a local doctor that has a clue and

even

> with the test results in black and white, most of them are still

> overwhelmed with the information and the theories. And, most of

them

> don't have the time to read the materials that I'm willing to

provide.

> It's a very sad reflection of our current medical system in this

> country and I wouldn't expect it to be much different in your area

of

> the country than it is in Texas.

>

> Peace and healing,

> B

>

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Jackie,

Have you thought of getting an appointment with Dr. Shoemaker in southern

land? You could make a mini vacation of it and spend the night at the

Holiday Inn Express. Look at the map to see how long it would take you to get

there. I would suggest that you go through Norfolk, VA and head north over the

Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel which is 17 miles long. The trip from SC may not

be as long as you think.

Check out map quest to see how long a drive it would be for you going that

route.

I have been a patient for 3 yrs. and felt the same as you. I was so sick I

felt like I was going to die if I didn't get help. I have Blue Cross and Blue

Shield which he accepts. I wouldn't waste anymore time with Drs. that can't

help you. If you can get someone to drive to land with you that's what I

would do. Just a suggestion to think about.

Sue

Hi,

I need a good enviromental and ENT doctor. I live in the upperstate of

SC in . I am willing to go within driving distance and even

spend the night if the driving distance is too many miles. I am very

sick right now and I cannot afford a doctor who will not accept

insurance and wants up front money. Ihave been at this for many years

right now. At times I feel as if I am dying. I can't go on like this

and the many doctors I have seen around here have not helped me at

all. Does anyone know of any doctors I can go to who accepts insurance

and not expect a hefty up-front fee? As with most of you, due to

illness and not working, I am broke. If anyone knows of any good

doctors in my area, please let me know.

Thanks,

Jackie

[Guest guest]

I can't go to land. I don't have a decent car to get me there.

I am willing to go within 5 hours of my home.

I know you all have high respect for Dr. Shoemaker but for some of us

who don't have the money or proper vehicle to get there, it is

impossible. Aren't there other doctors besides Dr. Shoemaker???? I

mean this as no disrespect to Dr. Shoemaker but I am not wealthy and

I can't take a mini vacation and I can't drive all the way to

land in my shabby car. Doesn't anyone know of any other doctor

on this forumn besides Dr. Shoemaker who is in the South around South

Carolina??????? I have athena insurance and medicare. I guess I may

as well give up because I really thought I could get more answers

about a doctor in my area on here. Sorry if I seem flustered, I am

not flustered but having an ill and sick day, my life seems to be

sucked out of me... and I am at a point of giving up as i can't seem

to get any answerers about medical help anywhere. I am tired of

fighting this illness.

Thanks anyway.

>

> Jackie,

> Have you thought of getting an appointment with Dr. Shoemaker in

southern

> land? You could make a mini vacation of it and spend the night

at the

> Holiday Inn Express. Look at the map to see how long it would take

you to get

> there. I would suggest that you go through Norfolk, VA and head

north over the

> Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel which is 17 miles long. The trip from

SC may not

> be as long as you think.

> Check out map quest to see how long a drive it would be for you

going that

> route.

>

> I have been a patient for 3 yrs. and felt the same as you. I was so

sick I

> felt like I was going to die if I didn't get help. I have Blue

Cross and Blue

> Shield which he accepts. I wouldn't waste anymore time with Drs.

that can't

> help you. If you can get someone to drive to land with you

that's what I

> would do. Just a suggestion to think about.

>

> Sue

>

>

>

>

> Hi,

> I need a good enviromental and ENT doctor. I live in the

upperstate of

> SC in . I am willing to go within driving distance and

even

> spend the night if the driving distance is too many miles. I am

very

> sick right now and I cannot afford a doctor who will not accept

> insurance and wants up front money. Ihave been at this for many

years

> right now. At times I feel as if I am dying. I can't go on like

this

> and the many doctors I have seen around here have not helped me at

> all. Does anyone know of any doctors I can go to who accepts

insurance

> and not expect a hefty up-front fee? As with most of you, due to

> illness and not working, I am broke. If anyone knows of any good

> doctors in my area, please let me know.

> Thanks,

> Jackie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have gotten help from an environmental doctor who has treated my

inhalant allergies (including mold) and other health issues, such as

hormone imbalance.

Geography isn't my specialty but Dr. Lieberman in South Carolina was

suggested when I started treatment. As I am in the midwest, a doctor

in Illinois made more sense for me. You might want to check the web

site of the American Academy of Environmental Medicine

http://www.aaem.com/ to see if you can find someone closer to where

you live. I called the academy at my doctor's suggestion and chose

one of the two doctors they recommended.

> >

> > Jackie,

> > Have you thought of getting an appointment with Dr. Shoemaker in

> southern

> > land? You could make a mini vacation of it and spend the

night

> at the

> > Holiday Inn Express. Look at the map to see how long it would

take

> you to get

> > there. I would suggest that you go through Norfolk, VA and head

> north over the

> > Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel which is 17 miles long. The trip

from

> SC may not

> > be as long as you think.

> > Check out map quest to see how long a drive it would be for you

> going that

> > route.

> >

> > I have been a patient for 3 yrs. and felt the same as you. I was

so

> sick I

> > felt like I was going to die if I didn't get help. I have Blue

> Cross and Blue

> > Shield which he accepts. I wouldn't waste anymore time with Drs.

> that can't

> > help you. If you can get someone to drive to land with you

> that's what I

> > would do. Just a suggestion to think about.

> >

> > Sue

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> > I need a good enviromental and ENT doctor. I live in the

> upperstate of

> > SC in . I am willing to go within driving distance and

> even

> > spend the night if the driving distance is too many miles. I am

> very

> > sick right now and I cannot afford a doctor who will not accept

> > insurance and wants up front money. Ihave been at this for many

> years

> > right now. At times I feel as if I am dying. I can't go on like

> this

> > and the many doctors I have seen around here have not helped me

at

> > all. Does anyone know of any doctors I can go to who accepts

> insurance

> > and not expect a hefty up-front fee? As with most of you, due to

> > illness and not working, I am broke. If anyone knows of any good

> > doctors in my area, please let me know.

> > Thanks,

> > Jackie

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

heres another site that you can find environmental doctors through,

i found one in my area from this site, but he's booked solid for

several months.

<http://www.ei-resource.org/articles/mcs-art09.asp>

> > >

> > > Jackie,

> > > Have you thought of getting an appointment with Dr. Shoemaker

in

> > southern

> > > land? You could make a mini vacation of it and spend the

> night

> > at the

> > > Holiday Inn Express. Look at the map to see how long it would

> take

> > you to get

> > > there. I would suggest that you go through Norfolk, VA and

head

> > north over the

> > > Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel which is 17 miles long. The trip

> from

> > SC may not

> > > be as long as you think.

> > > Check out map quest to see how long a drive it would be for you

> > going that

> > > route.

> > >

> > > I have been a patient for 3 yrs. and felt the same as you. I

was

> so

> > sick I

> > > felt like I was going to die if I didn't get help. I have Blue

> > Cross and Blue

> > > Shield which he accepts. I wouldn't waste anymore time with

Drs.

> > that can't

> > > help you. If you can get someone to drive to land with you

> > that's what I

> > > would do. Just a suggestion to think about.

> > >

> > > Sue

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > I need a good enviromental and ENT doctor. I live in the

> > upperstate of

> > > SC in . I am willing to go within driving distance and

> > even

> > > spend the night if the driving distance is too many miles. I am

> > very

> > > sick right now and I cannot afford a doctor who will not

accept

> > > insurance and wants up front money. Ihave been at this for many

> > years

> > > right now. At times I feel as if I am dying. I can't go on like

> > this

> > > and the many doctors I have seen around here have not helped me

> at

> > > all. Does anyone know of any doctors I can go to who accepts

> > insurance

> > > and not expect a hefty up-front fee? As with most of you, due

to

> > > illness and not working, I am broke. If anyone knows of any

good

> > > doctors in my area, please let me know.

> > > Thanks,

> > > Jackie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Jackie, Look in your yellow pages for doctors that practice

alternative medicine or osteopath and see if they will perform some of

tests the mold doctors do or prescribe for you CSM powder, etc. Here

is a link to look for an osteopath in an area close to you, and

another link for doctors listed on mold-survivor website:

<http://www.academyofosteopathy.org/backoffice/physsearch.cfm>

....or you can try the mold-survivor physician's find list:

<http://mold-survivor.com/DrLists/search.php?state=SC>

I don't remember what your symptoms are but if they are primarily

upper respiratory, ask your doctor to refer you to a pulmonologist to

get pulmonary function tests. Just some places to start looking.

>

> I can't go to land. I don't have a decent car to get me there.

> I am willing to go within 5 hours of my home.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks but I had all of those test and many many more. I do have COPD

and etc. I just need proper medical treatment. I have looked in

every Yellow Page in our state..I really do give up. I am tired. I

could not get any of my doctors to give me CSM even though I have a

slight elevated closterol (SP??) level.

Thanks all for your help but in checking most of these docs, I have

already checked out most. I guess the only doc close to me who

practices enviromental medicine is the one who wants so much $$$$ up-

front. That I don't have. I can plainly see, there are no doctors in

this field who are close by and accept insurance. I guess I will

contunue taking zillions of antibotics until they kill me! This is

the only way I get relief!

I have been to every specialist in this city and they say this and

that and do nothing. I am too tired of trying at this point and I am

sick of doctors that do not understand this illness so I may as well

not go to another one because it is too up-setting to not get help.

The new ENT I went to last week did nothing but said I had hearing

loss, I was like duhhhh,I know this and that is why I am here as well

as to see if my ear issues have anything to do with my issues with

sinuses as well as pain in my jaws...but he said I could get a

hearing aid and that wa it! I don't need a hearing aid as I can hear

in my left ear..I want relief. My right ear and right sinus feel

like roto ruter went through it a few times today, I can't handle

much more of this!

Thanks all for the suggestions anyway. I was really hoping there was

a doctor around that took insurance without so much up front money

and specialized in enviromental medicine that I could had missed in

my search. Today was just a very bad day physically, tomorrow might

be a better day...I never never know! I am just a really foul human

being right now...LOL!!

> >

> > I can't go to land. I don't have a decent car to get me

there.

> > I am willing to go within 5 hours of my home.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Thanks but I had all of those test and many many more.

Are you saying that you found a doctor than ran the full panel of

tests that Shoemaker runs and then some? I say and " then some "

because he's constantly adding new tests to the list.

> I just need proper medical treatment.

I'm not trying to be obnoxious, but could you not have whoever ran

all those tests prescribe the CSM? Have you tried taking a short

summary of Shoemaker's protocol into any of these doctors? He has a

very brief summary that he provides to new patients that perhaps

someone can forward to you (I can, but it might be a while as it's in

my collection of potentially contaminated items).

> I have looked in

> every Yellow Page in our state..I really do give up. I am tired. I

> could not get any of my doctors to give me CSM even though I have a

> slight elevated closterol (SP??) level.

My sister has refused to go see Dr. Shoemaker, even though he's just

a couple hours down the road from her, as she has no insurance at all

and has 10 kids to take care of. She was virtually bed bound when I

saw her in April and by October, she was doing significantly better

by using some alternative approaches for binding the toxins. She uses

a combination of Pectasol, Yucca and chlorella. You can google and

find that Yucca is believed to help lower cholesterol. Pectasol is

purported to bind and remove toxins. I did try it myself and while I

do not believe it is as effective as CSM, I think it does help

somewhat. I have added the Yucca to my regular supplement regimen as

it apparently is high in resveratol, which is supposed to be a good

thing. I can't tolerate the chlorella, but it's worth a try if you

haven't tried it before. If you do want to try these alternative

therapies, I would suggest you add one thing at a time to make sure

you don't react. I also do not believe they are as effective as the

CSM, but I do know that it has helped my sister. I still strongly

encourage you to find a doctor to prescribe the CSM and I still think

Dr. Shoemaker is not out of reach for you (per the email I sent

offline).

> Thanks all for your help but in checking most of these docs, I have

> already checked out most. I guess the only doc close to me who

> practices enviromental medicine is the one who wants so much $$$$

up-

> front. That I don't have. I can plainly see, there are no doctors

in

> this field who are close by and accept insurance. I guess I will

> contunue taking zillions of antibotics until they kill me! This is

> the only way I get relief!

If you're taking tons of abx, it is extremely likely you have the

Coag Neg Staph nasal infection and MUST be treated for that and

you'll never get well. The problem with these abx is that they

further weaken your immune system, as they're killing all the healthy

bacteria, along with the bad stuff. I personally find it appalling

that you can find a doctor to give you abx, but not CSM. Are you

taking probiotics? If not, you really should, as that will help

replenish the healthy bacteria in your gut. Yes, abx are sometimes a

necessary evil, but you'll almost always pay the price in terms of

fungal overgrowth and that seems to be a huge issue for folks that

are already ill due to mold exposure.

> I have been to every specialist in this city and they say this and

> that and do nothing. I am too tired of trying at this point and I

am

> sick of doctors that do not understand this illness so I may as

well

> not go to another one because it is too up-setting to not get help.

And, truly Jackie, this is why we're all suggesting Dr. Shoemaker.

> The new ENT I went to last week did nothing but said I had hearing

> loss, I was like duhhhh,I know this and that is why I am here as

well

> as to see if my ear issues have anything to do with my issues with

> sinuses as well as pain in my jaws...but he said I could get a

> hearing aid and that wa it! I don't need a hearing aid as I can

hear

> in my left ear..I want relief. My right ear and right sinus feel

> like roto ruter went through it a few times today, I can't handle

> much more of this!

Since you've been taking lots of abx, I would bet you have incredible

fungal overgrowth in your ears and sinuses. There was a recent

article this past summer that the majority of chronic ear infections

are related to fungus, which totally explains why taking lots of abx

only makes them worse. The same has been found for sinus

infections. I've gotten alot of relief from my ear pain by taking

diflucan twice a week each time after I've had to take abx. Any

doctor that will prescribe abx should not have a problem at all with

given you a 10 days supply of 100 mg Diflucan - that lasts me 5

weeks.

Per 's suggestion that sore throats can be fungal related and

benefit from a hydrogen peroxide rinse, I have done the same thing

with my ears and gotten tremendous relief. I just poor the H2O2

directly in the ear and it will bubble - I leave it in for about 15

minutes. I did this daily until I used the diflucan. I now only need

to do this weekly and my ear pain is virtually gone. I have also

found that using a small amount of tea tree oil (a natural anti-

fungal) in my neti pot helps the sinues alot. I have also used a

small amount in my ears (mixed with olive oil) and I think that

helped clear out alot of fungal stuff in my ears. If you do this, tea

tree oil is very strong - there are diluted forms available at health

food stores that might be safer to start with.

> Thanks all for the suggestions anyway. I was really hoping there

was

> a doctor around that took insurance without so much up front money

> and specialized in enviromental medicine that I could had missed in

> my search. Today was just a very bad day physically, tomorrow

might

> be a better day...I never never know! I am just a really foul human

> being right now...LOL!!

>

>

We've all felt this one at some point in time. Don't give up!

Peace and Healing,

B.

[Guest guest]

, she was responding to my email I believe in which I asked her if

she had had pulmonary function tests.

> >

> > Thanks but I had all of those test and many many more.

>

> Are you saying that you found a doctor than ran the full panel of

> tests that Shoemaker runs and then some? I say and " then some "

> because he's constantly adding new tests to the list.

[Guest guest]

Hello again,

I am in Asheville and two of my doctors are close to you. Dr.

kson is in Spartanburg and Dr. Ross is in Tryon(Integrative). It

took 3 years, countless " specialists " and over 60k in uncovered

medical expenses to get here. I can assure you that they are the

best and will not suck you dry. Please e-mail me with any questions.

There is an end in sight!

> >

> > Jackie, Look in your yellow pages for doctors that practice

> > alternative medicine or osteopath and see if they will perform

some

> of

> > tests the mold doctors do or prescribe for you CSM powder, etc.

> Here

> > is a link to look for an osteopath in an area close to you, and

> > another link for doctors listed on mold-survivor website:

> >

> > <http://www.academyofosteopathy.org/backoffice/physsearch.cfm>

> >

> > ...or you can try the mold-survivor physician's find list:

> >

> > <http://mold-survivor.com/DrLists/search.php?state=SC>

> >

> > I don't remember what your symptoms are but if they are

primarily

> > upper respiratory, ask your doctor to refer you to a

pulmonologist

> to

> > get pulmonary function tests. Just some places to start looking.

> >

> > --- In , " sea " <jackiebreeze@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > I can't go to land. I don't have a decent car to get me

> there.

> > > I am willing to go within 5 hours of my home.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

CSM is what you need, and I would ask any DR you want an apt. with up

front if he knows Dr Shoes work and perscribes CSM toxic binding

therapy. It will save you allot of trouble.- What I did when I moved

out to NM and needed to get a new script for CSM, and the local DRs

knew nothing ,was call the large medical center about an hr away-Told

the Medical receptionist exactly what I had and what I needed, and for

her to find me a Dr-she got back to me in 2 days with an app. and now I

have a Dr who is learning and gives me my meds.

If I was you , I would call Shoemakers office, ask for a paitient

packet, fill it out and get an appointment- that could take months-then

if you need the app, you have it- you can find a way to get there if

you have to- and sleep in your car if need be, others have done it. No

tests except the Shoemaker ones will show mold poisoning, you can buy

the " Mold Warriors " book, and show a Dr the tests- which may not even be

necessary, first you need to start detoxing with CSM-see if you recover-

that may be all you need.

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> Thanks but I had all of those test and many many more. I do have COPD

> and etc. I just need proper medical treatment. I have looked in

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