Re: KC--Fellow patient has aspergillus growing in the brain

[Guest guest]

How did they figure out he had aperg. in his brain? I wonder if I

have mold in my brain from long time exposure and that is what my

pressure is and headaches ETC. What does it show up like on an MRI

or other scans? I don't want to go breath that crap until hopefully

I'm approved for retirement disability. Rhonda

Sunday, January 14, 2007

>

> Costs to mend courthouse cause concern

>

> Chattanooga Times Free Press Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:10 PM PST

>

> Money spent on new air conditioning, work to rid mold questioned

> By Ian Berry Staff Writer

>

> With at least $6.2 million spent on renovations to the Hamilton

> County Courthouse since 2001, the county continues to fight mold

> infiltrating the historic building.

>

> The renovations, records show, have included more than $500,000 to

> waterproof a leaky foundation thought to be the cause of the

> building's continuing mold problems. Despite that foundation work,

> moisture and mold persist on the first floor, where offices,

> hallways and the entrance onto Walnut Street have been inspected

and

> cleaned of mold in recent weeks.

>

> " Throwing good money after bad " is how some Hamilton County

> officials recently have described expenses for some of the county's

> older buildings, including the courthouse.

>

> One of those officials, County Commissioner Fred Skillern, said he

> supported the latest courthouse work, but may have felt

> differently " if I knew then what I knew now. " The courthouse

> renovations are " almost a nightmare, " Commission Chairman Larry

> Henry said.

>

> NO TURNING BACK Built in 1912, the courthouse is in the midst

> of " Phase V " renovations intended in part to address mold problems

> in several locations, including offices for the county clerk,

> register of deeds and clerk and master.

>

> In addition to the $6.2 million approved since 2001, the county

> included $3 million for further renovations in the $125 million

bond

> issue approved last year.

>

> There also have been continuing mold problems on the third floor,

> where Clerk and Master Lee Akers, the only official to complain

> publicly about the mold, has set up portable air purifiers. Mr.

> Akers said he wonders if mold is to blame for his chronic

> obstructive pulmonary disease, or his employees' frequent bouts of

> pneumonia.

>

> While acknowledging the problems, commissioners also say that at

> this point there's no turning back.

>

> " From a cost-effectiveness standpoint, you really should tear it

> down and start over, " Commissioner Casavant said. " (But)

> we've put a lot of money into the courthouse during the past 10

> years. "

>

> County Mayor Claude Ramsey said a new courthouse would cost " many

> times what we've spent on this beautiful facility, which is a great

> asset to the community. "

>

> The city is in the midst of a $12 million renovation to its City

> Hall. FROM THE GROUND UP Mr. Ramsey said the first phase of the

> renovations to address the courthouse foundation was intended to

> stop moisture. The plan all along, he said, was to bring the

> building up to standard and then address the areas of mold.

>

> " It certainly helped a great deal, " he said of the foundation work.

>

> The health and well-being of county employees is his top concern,

> Mr. Ramsey said. He noted his office has had virtually no

> renovations since he took office in 1994. " I work here every day, "

> Mr. Ramsey said.

>

> Even if the county had been inclined to build a new facility,

> finding a location would have been a problem.

>

> Curtis said if the county could have looked into " a crystal

> ball " 10 years ago, it would have looked at building a new joint

> city-county facility, similar to what exists in Knoxville. A

> potential location could have been where the new County Election

> Commission Building opened on Amnicola Highway.

>

> " It's too late for that, " Mr. said.

>

> BEYOND THE COURTHOUSE Both Dr. Casavant and Mr. Skillern said the

> county should think about a building program to replace some of the

> other old county facilities.

>

> Earlier this month, Dr. Casavant asked county officials to conduct

> an audit of all the county's facilities. He said he was taken aback

> to learn that an entire floor of the Hamilton County-Chattanooga

> Courts Building was being used for parking, and he said the cost of

> a new heating, ventilation and air conditioning system at the

Newell

> Tower on East Seventh Street, which houses other county offices,

> also raised questions.

>

> That building's HVAC system will cost more than $700,000. The

county

> received only one bid on the project, after three attempts to

> solicit bids.

>

> Dr. Casavant pointed out that, unlike the courthouse, Newell Tower

> is not historic.

>

> " At what point do you decide it would be better to issue some bonds

> and build a new building and have it pay off? " he said.

>

> County Finance Director Louis acknowledged the concern but

> said all of the offices in Newell Tower, for instance, need to be

> downtown.

>

> " We frankly right now don't have another location to put a building

> such as this, " Mr. said. " We've proven that new buildings

are

> most cost-efficient than older buildings, but quite frankly that's

> how we've acquired additional space in the downtown campus, by

> purchasing old buildings. "

>

> Mr. Ramsey has in response to Dr. Casavant's request appointed a

> three-person committee to take an inventory of all county buildings

> including the county's maintenance director, engineer and real

> property manager.

>

> He said taking inventory of the buildings will be helpful, although

> any new county buildings would be far in the future.

>

> " We're building schools right now, " Mr. Ramsey said. " Somewhere

> there ought to be a longrange plan. But as of now, we continue to

> concentrate on the school building program under way. "

>

> E-mail Ian Berry at iberry@... RENOVATION OUTLAYS The

> Hamilton County Commission has approved the following expenditures

> to renovate these buildings since 2000: Hamilton County Courthouse —

> $6.2 million Heating/ventilation/ air conditioning repairs — $1.53

> million Hamilton County Justice Building (includes jail) — $1.5

> million Newell Towers — $903,984 MLK Building — 209,000 Mayfield

> Annex — 193,872 Hamilton County-Chattanooga Courts Building:

> $159,884 Source: Hamilton County documents

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Jane: Educationally-speaking, because I am an environmental health science

researcher and not a medical doctor, your friend's medical doctor might want to

read the article " Mycotic Aneurysm and Cerebral Infarction Resulting from Fungal

Sinsusitis: Imaging and Pathologic Correlation " .

(http://www.ajnr.org/cgi/content/full/22/5/858)

From knowledge base only and not as a directive in medical treatment for anyone:

Concurrent approach, 1)Aggressive treatment perhaps (Latex/Liposomal prep)

Amphotericin B and Itraconazole (Sporanox, though a systemic antifungal drug is

more influential in bone/cartilage infections). 2) Sugar free/greatly reduced

diet, 3) Hyperbaric treatment regiment all under the care of a medical doctor

highly experienced in medical mycology, 4) Aqua-exercise program 2-3x week 30-45

min. per, patient is able. Suggestion only: Merck Ch. 158, Pg. 1209-1225;

" Aspergillosis " pg. 1222-1223. Consultant: A. s, M.D., Santa Clara

Valley Medical Center, Dept. of Medicine , 751 South Bascom Avenue, San , CA

95128-2699, Email: (stevens@...) (In Google type: " Practice

Guidelines for Diseases Caused by Aspergillus " ), also San , University of

Texas Health Center; Medical Mycology Center Garry T. Cole, Ph.D.(210) 458-7017

is one of the contacts, Hospenthal, Duane , M.D., Ph.D, and A.

Lee, MD several others (Website: http://www.sacmm.org). Ritchie Shoemaker, M.D.

(Pokomoke City, MD 410-957-1550), and A. Marinkovich, M.D. (Redwood

City, CA 650-482-2800)

Hope this will get you started.

Best to you.

Doug Haney,

Maridea EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.

Email: _Haney52@...

@...: janeannmosher@...: Mon, 15 Jan

2007 11:31:51 -0800Subject: [] KC--Fellow patient has aspergillus

growing in the brain

My doctor is contacting NIH, s Hopkins, and the Mayo Clinic for him in order

to get treatment. Have you ever heard of anybody having a brain biopsy and

aspergillus found growing in the brain? At least the good thing is the main

stream doctors are supporting my friend. He has constant headaches and

headpressure. Janetigerpaw2c <tigerpaw2c@...> wrote: Sunday, January 14,

2007Costs to mend courthouse cause concernChattanooga Times Free Press Sat, 13

Jan 2007 10:10 PM PSTMoney spent on new air conditioning, work to rid mold

questionedBy Ian Berry Staff Writer With at least $6.2 million spent on

renovations to the Hamilton County Courthouse since 2001, the county continues

to fight mold infiltrating the historic building.The renovations, records show,

have included more than $500,000 to waterproof a leaky foundation thought to be

the cause of the building's continuing mold problems. Despite that foundation

work, moisture and mold persist on the first floor, where offices, hallways and

the entrance onto Walnut Street have been inspected and cleaned of mold in

recent weeks. " Throwing good money after bad " is how some Hamilton County

officials recently have described expenses for some of the county's older

buildings, including the courthouse.One of those officials, County Commissioner

Fred Skillern, said he supported the latest courthouse work, but may have felt

differently " if I knew then what I knew now. " The courthouse renovations are

" almost a nightmare, " Commission Chairman Larry Henry said.NO TURNING BACK Built

in 1912, the courthouse is in the midst of " Phase V " renovations intended in

part to address mold problems in several locations, including offices for the

county clerk, register of deeds and clerk and master.In addition to the $6.2

million approved since 2001, the county included $3 million for further

renovations in the $125 million bond issue approved last year.There also have

been continuing mold problems on the third floor, where Clerk and Master Lee

Akers, the only official to complain publicly about the mold, has set up

portable air purifiers. Mr. Akers said he wonders if mold is to blame for his

chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, or his employees' frequent bouts of

pneumonia.While acknowledging the problems, commissioners also say that at this

point there's no turning back. " From a cost-effectiveness standpoint, you really

should tear it down and start over, " Commissioner Casavant said. " (But)

we've put a lot of money into the courthouse during the past 10 years. " County

Mayor Claude Ramsey said a new courthouse would cost " many times what we've

spent on this beautiful facility, which is a great asset to the community. " The

city is in the midst of a $12 million renovation to its City Hall. FROM THE

GROUND UP Mr. Ramsey said the first phase of the renovations to address the

courthouse foundation was intended to stop moisture. The plan all along, he

said, was to bring the building up to standard and then address the areas of

mold. " It certainly helped a great deal, " he said of the foundation work.The

health and well-being of county employees is his top concern, Mr. Ramsey said.

He noted his office has had virtually no renovations since he took office in

1994. " I work here every day, " Mr. Ramsey said.Even if the county had been

inclined to build a new facility, finding a location would have been a

problem.Curtis said if the county could have looked into " a crystal ball "

10 years ago, it would have looked at building a new joint city-county facility,

similar to what exists in Knoxville. A potential location could have been where

the new County Election Commission Building opened on Amnicola Highway. " It's too

late for that, " Mr. said.BEYOND THE COURTHOUSE Both Dr. Casavant and Mr.

Skillern said the county should think about a building program to replace some

of the other old county facilities.Earlier this month, Dr. Casavant asked county

officials to conduct an audit of all the county's facilities. He said he was

taken aback to learn that an entire floor of the Hamilton County-Chattanooga

Courts Building was being used for parking, and he said the cost of a new

heating, ventilation and air conditioning system at the Newell Tower on East

Seventh Street, which houses other county offices, also raised questions.That

building's HVAC system will cost more than $700,000. The county received only

one bid on the project, after three attempts to solicit bids.Dr. Casavant

pointed out that, unlike the courthouse, Newell Tower is not historic. " At what

point do you decide it would be better to issue some bonds and build a new

building and have it pay off? " he said.County Finance Director Louis

acknowledged the concern but said all of the offices in Newell Tower, for

instance, need to be downtown. " We frankly right now don't have another location

to put a building such as this, " Mr. said. " We've proven that new

buildings are most cost-efficient than older buildings, but quite frankly that's

how we've acquired additional space in the downtown campus, by purchasing old

buildings. " Mr. Ramsey has in response to Dr. Casavant's request appointed a

three-person committee to take an inventory of all county buildings including

the county's maintenance director, engineer and real property manager.He said

taking inventory of the buildings will be helpful, although any new county

buildings would be far in the future. " We're building schools right now, " Mr.

Ramsey said. " Somewhere there ought to be a longrange plan. But as of now, we

continue to concentrate on the school building program under way. " E-mail Ian

Berry at iberry@... RENOVATION OUTLAYS The Hamilton County

Commission has approved the following expenditures to renovate these buildings

since 2000: Hamilton County Courthouse — $6.2 million Heating/ventilation/ air

conditioning repairs — $1.53 million Hamilton County Justice Building (includes

jail) — $1.5 million Newell Towers — $903,984 MLK Building — 209,000 Mayfield

Annex — 193,872 Hamilton County-Chattanooga Courts Building: $159,884 Source:

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Yes, and if you PRAY, pray for your friend because once THAT starts, its

very, very dangerous and hard to get rid of.

The http://www.aspergillus.org.uk/ web site has a LOT of useful medical

information about aspergillosis...

Its not as uncommon as they would have you believe.

People have aspergillosis in their sinuses or eye sockets and it can spread

to the brain.

On 1/15/07, jane mosher <janeannmosher@...> wrote:

>

> My doctor is contacting NIH, s Hopkins, and the Mayo Clinic for him

> in order to get treatment. Have you ever heard of anybody having a brain

> biopsy and aspergillus found growing in the brain? At least the good thing

> is the main stream doctors are supporting my friend. He has constant

> headaches and headpressure. Jane

>

> tigerpaw2c <tigerpaw2c@... <tigerpaw2c%40>> wrote: Sunday,

> January 14, 2007

>

> Costs to mend courthouse cause concern

>

> Chattanooga Times Free Press Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:10 PM PST

>

> Money spent on new air conditioning, work to rid mold questioned

> By Ian Berry Staff Writer

>

> With at least $6.2 million spent on renovations to the Hamilton

> County Courthouse since 2001, the county continues to fight mold

> infiltrating the historic building.

>

> The renovations, records show, have included more than $500,000 to

> waterproof a leaky foundation thought to be the cause of the

> building's continuing mold problems. Despite that foundation work,

> moisture and mold persist on the first floor, where offices,

> hallways and the entrance onto Walnut Street have been inspected and

> cleaned of mold in recent weeks.

>

> " Throwing good money after bad " is how some Hamilton County

> officials recently have described expenses for some of the county's

> older buildings, including the courthouse.

>

> One of those officials, County Commissioner Fred Skillern, said he

> supported the latest courthouse work, but may have felt

> differently " if I knew then what I knew now. " The courthouse

> renovations are " almost a nightmare, " Commission Chairman Larry

> Henry said.

>

> NO TURNING BACK Built in 1912, the courthouse is in the midst

> of " Phase V " renovations intended in part to address mold problems

> in several locations, including offices for the county clerk,

> register of deeds and clerk and master.

>

> In addition to the $6.2 million approved since 2001, the county

> included $3 million for further renovations in the $125 million bond

> issue approved last year.

>

> There also have been continuing mold problems on the third floor,

> where Clerk and Master Lee Akers, the only official to complain

> publicly about the mold, has set up portable air purifiers. Mr.

> Akers said he wonders if mold is to blame for his chronic

> obstructive pulmonary disease, or his employees' frequent bouts of

> pneumonia.

>

> While acknowledging the problems, commissioners also say that at

> this point there's no turning back.

>

> " From a cost-effectiveness standpoint, you really should tear it

> down and start over, " Commissioner Casavant said. " (But)

> we've put a lot of money into the courthouse during the past 10

> years. "

>

> County Mayor Claude Ramsey said a new courthouse would cost " many

> times what we've spent on this beautiful facility, which is a great

> asset to the community. "

>

> The city is in the midst of a $12 million renovation to its City

> Hall. FROM THE GROUND UP Mr. Ramsey said the first phase of the

> renovations to address the courthouse foundation was intended to

> stop moisture. The plan all along, he said, was to bring the

> building up to standard and then address the areas of mold.

>

> " It certainly helped a great deal, " he said of the foundation work.

>

> The health and well-being of county employees is his top concern,

> Mr. Ramsey said. He noted his office has had virtually no

> renovations since he took office in 1994. " I work here every day, "

> Mr. Ramsey said.

>

> Even if the county had been inclined to build a new facility,

> finding a location would have been a problem.

>

> Curtis said if the county could have looked into " a crystal

> ball " 10 years ago, it would have looked at building a new joint

> city-county facility, similar to what exists in Knoxville. A

> potential location could have been where the new County Election

> Commission Building opened on Amnicola Highway.

>

> " It's too late for that, " Mr. said.

>

> BEYOND THE COURTHOUSE Both Dr. Casavant and Mr. Skillern said the

> county should think about a building program to replace some of the

> other old county facilities.

>

> Earlier this month, Dr. Casavant asked county officials to conduct

> an audit of all the county's facilities. He said he was taken aback

> to learn that an entire floor of the Hamilton County-Chattanooga

> Courts Building was being used for parking, and he said the cost of

> a new heating, ventilation and air conditioning system at the Newell

> Tower on East Seventh Street, which houses other county offices,

> also raised questions.

>

> That building's HVAC system will cost more than $700,000. The county

> received only one bid on the project, after three attempts to

> solicit bids.

>

> Dr. Casavant pointed out that, unlike the courthouse, Newell Tower

> is not historic.

>

> " At what point do you decide it would be better to issue some bonds

> and build a new building and have it pay off? " he said.

>

> County Finance Director Louis acknowledged the concern but

> said all of the offices in Newell Tower, for instance, need to be

> downtown.

>

> " We frankly right now don't have another location to put a building

> such as this, " Mr. said. " We've proven that new buildings are

> most cost-efficient than older buildings, but quite frankly that's

> how we've acquired additional space in the downtown campus, by

> purchasing old buildings. "

>

> Mr. Ramsey has in response to Dr. Casavant's request appointed a

> three-person committee to take an inventory of all county buildings

> including the county's maintenance director, engineer and real

> property manager.

>

> He said taking inventory of the buildings will be helpful, although

> any new county buildings would be far in the future.

>

> " We're building schools right now, " Mr. Ramsey said. " Somewhere

> there ought to be a longrange plan. But as of now, we continue to

> concentrate on the school building program under way. "

>

> E-mail Ian Berry at

iberry@...<iberry%40timesfreepress.com>RENOVATION OUTLAYS The

> Hamilton County Commission has approved the following expenditures

> to renovate these buildings since 2000: Hamilton County Courthouse —

> $6.2 million Heating/ventilation/ air conditioning repairs — $1.53

> million Hamilton County Justice Building (includes jail) — $1.5

> million Newell Towers — $903,984 MLK Building — 209,000 Mayfield

> Annex — 193,872 Hamilton County-Chattanooga Courts Building:

> $159,884 Source: Hamilton County documents

>

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[Guest guest]

Thank you so much. I am forwarding this to him now!

LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote: Yes, and if you PRAY, pray for your

friend because once THAT starts, its

very, very dangerous and hard to get rid of.

The http://www.aspergillus.org.uk/ web site has a LOT of useful medical

information about aspergillosis...

Its not as uncommon as they would have you believe.

People have aspergillosis in their sinuses or eye sockets and it can spread

to the brain.

On 1/15/07, jane mosher wrote:

>

> My doctor is contacting NIH, s Hopkins, and the Mayo Clinic for him

> in order to get treatment. Have you ever heard of anybody having a brain

> biopsy and aspergillus found growing in the brain? At least the good thing

> is the main stream doctors are supporting my friend. He has constant

> headaches and headpressure. Jane

>

> tigerpaw2c > wrote: Sunday,

> January 14, 2007

>

> Costs to mend courthouse cause concern

>

> Chattanooga Times Free Press Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:10 PM PST

>

> Money spent on new air conditioning, work to rid mold questioned

> By Ian Berry Staff Writer

>

> With at least $6.2 million spent on renovations to the Hamilton

> County Courthouse since 2001, the county continues to fight mold

> infiltrating the historic building.

>

> The renovations, records show, have included more than $500,000 to

> waterproof a leaky foundation thought to be the cause of the

> building's continuing mold problems. Despite that foundation work,

> moisture and mold persist on the first floor, where offices,

> hallways and the entrance onto Walnut Street have been inspected and

> cleaned of mold in recent weeks.

>

> " Throwing good money after bad " is how some Hamilton County

> officials recently have described expenses for some of the county's

> older buildings, including the courthouse.

>

> One of those officials, County Commissioner Fred Skillern, said he

> supported the latest courthouse work, but may have felt

> differently " if I knew then what I knew now. " The courthouse

> renovations are " almost a nightmare, " Commission Chairman Larry

> Henry said.

>

> NO TURNING BACK Built in 1912, the courthouse is in the midst

> of " Phase V " renovations intended in part to address mold problems

> in several locations, including offices for the county clerk,

> register of deeds and clerk and master.

>

> In addition to the $6.2 million approved since 2001, the county

> included $3 million for further renovations in the $125 million bond

> issue approved last year.

>

> There also have been continuing mold problems on the third floor,

> where Clerk and Master Lee Akers, the only official to complain

> publicly about the mold, has set up portable air purifiers. Mr.

> Akers said he wonders if mold is to blame for his chronic

> obstructive pulmonary disease, or his employees' frequent bouts of

> pneumonia.

>

> While acknowledging the problems, commissioners also say that at

> this point there's no turning back.

>

> " From a cost-effectiveness standpoint, you really should tear it

> down and start over, " Commissioner Casavant said. " (But)

> we've put a lot of money into the courthouse during the past 10

> years. "

>

> County Mayor Claude Ramsey said a new courthouse would cost " many

> times what we've spent on this beautiful facility, which is a great

> asset to the community. "

>

> The city is in the midst of a $12 million renovation to its City

> Hall. FROM THE GROUND UP Mr. Ramsey said the first phase of the

> renovations to address the courthouse foundation was intended to

> stop moisture. The plan all along, he said, was to bring the

> building up to standard and then address the areas of mold.

>

> " It certainly helped a great deal, " he said of the foundation work.

>

> The health and well-being of county employees is his top concern,

> Mr. Ramsey said. He noted his office has had virtually no

> renovations since he took office in 1994. " I work here every day, "

> Mr. Ramsey said.

>

> Even if the county had been inclined to build a new facility,

> finding a location would have been a problem.

>

> Curtis said if the county could have looked into " a crystal

> ball " 10 years ago, it would have looked at building a new joint

> city-county facility, similar to what exists in Knoxville. A

> potential location could have been where the new County Election

> Commission Building opened on Amnicola Highway.

>

> " It's too late for that, " Mr. said.

>

> BEYOND THE COURTHOUSE Both Dr. Casavant and Mr. Skillern said the

> county should think about a building program to replace some of the

> other old county facilities.

>

> Earlier this month, Dr. Casavant asked county officials to conduct

> an audit of all the county's facilities. He said he was taken aback

> to learn that an entire floor of the Hamilton County-Chattanooga

> Courts Building was being used for parking, and he said the cost of

> a new heating, ventilation and air conditioning system at the Newell

> Tower on East Seventh Street, which houses other county offices,

> also raised questions.

>

> That building's HVAC system will cost more than $700,000. The county

> received only one bid on the project, after three attempts to

> solicit bids.

>

> Dr. Casavant pointed out that, unlike the courthouse, Newell Tower

> is not historic.

>

> " At what point do you decide it would be better to issue some bonds

> and build a new building and have it pay off? " he said.

>

> County Finance Director Louis acknowledged the concern but

> said all of the offices in Newell Tower, for instance, need to be

> downtown.

>

> " We frankly right now don't have another location to put a building

> such as this, " Mr. said. " We've proven that new buildings are

> most cost-efficient than older buildings, but quite frankly that's

> how we've acquired additional space in the downtown campus, by

> purchasing old buildings. "

>

> Mr. Ramsey has in response to Dr. Casavant's request appointed a

> three-person committee to take an inventory of all county buildings

> including the county's maintenance director, engineer and real

> property manager.

>

> He said taking inventory of the buildings will be helpful, although

> any new county buildings would be far in the future.

>

> " We're building schools right now, " Mr. Ramsey said. " Somewhere

> there ought to be a longrange plan. But as of now, we continue to

> concentrate on the school building program under way. "

>

> E-mail Ian Berry at iberry@... OUTLAYS The

> Hamilton County Commission has approved the following expenditures

> to renovate these buildings since 2000: Hamilton County Courthouse —

> $6.2 million Heating/ventilation/ air conditioning repairs — $1.53

> million Hamilton County Justice Building (includes jail) — $1.5

> million Newell Towers — $903,984 MLK Building — 209,000 Mayfield

> Annex — 193,872 Hamilton County-Chattanooga Courts Building:

> $159,884 Source: Hamilton County documents

>

> ---------------------------------

> Need Mail bonding?

> Go to the Q & A for great tips from Answers users.

>

> [

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much. My doctor will appreciate this article.

Haney <_Haney52@...> wrote: Jane:

Educationally-speaking, because I am an environmental health science researcher

and not a medical doctor, your friend's medical doctor might want to read the

article " Mycotic Aneurysm and Cerebral Infarction Resulting from Fungal

Sinsusitis: Imaging and Pathologic Correlation " .

(http://www.ajnr.org/cgi/content/full/22/5/858)

From knowledge base only and not as a directive in medical treatment for anyone:

Concurrent approach, 1)Aggressive treatment perhaps (Latex/Liposomal prep)

Amphotericin B and Itraconazole (Sporanox, though a systemic antifungal drug is

more influential in bone/cartilage infections). 2) Sugar free/greatly reduced

diet, 3) Hyperbaric treatment regiment all under the care of a medical doctor

highly experienced in medical mycology, 4) Aqua-exercise program 2-3x week 30-45

min. per, patient is able. Suggestion only: Merck Ch. 158, Pg. 1209-1225;

" Aspergillosis " pg. 1222-1223. Consultant: A. s, M.D., Santa Clara

Valley Medical Center, Dept. of Medicine , 751 South Bascom Avenue, San , CA

95128-2699, Email: (stevens@...) (In Google type: " Practice

Guidelines for Diseases Caused by Aspergillus " ), also San , University of

Texas Health Center; Medical Mycology Center Garry T. Cole, Ph.D.(210) 458-7017

is one of the contacts, Hospenthal, Duane

, M.D., Ph.D, and A. Lee, MD several others (Website:

http://www.sacmm.org). Ritchie Shoemaker, M.D. (Pokomoke City, MD 410-957-1550),

and A. Marinkovich, M.D. (Redwood City, CA 650-482-2800)

Hope this will get you started.

Best to you.

Doug Haney,

Maridea EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.

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@...: janeannmosher@...: Mon, 15 Jan

2007 11:31:51 -0800Subject: [] KC--Fellow patient has aspergillus

growing in the brain

My doctor is contacting NIH, s Hopkins, and the Mayo Clinic for him in order

to get treatment. Have you ever heard of anybody having a brain biopsy and

aspergillus found growing in the brain? At least the good thing is the main

stream doctors are supporting my friend. He has constant headaches and

headpressure. Janetigerpaw2c wrote: Sunday, January 14, 2007Costs to mend

courthouse cause concernChattanooga Times Free Press Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:10 PM

PSTMoney spent on new air conditioning, work to rid mold questionedBy Ian Berry

Staff Writer With at least $6.2 million spent on renovations to the Hamilton

County Courthouse since 2001, the county continues to fight mold infiltrating

the historic building.The renovations, records show, have included more than

$500,000 to waterproof a leaky foundation thought to be the cause of the

building's continuing mold problems. Despite that foundation work, moisture and

mold persist on the first floor, where offices, hallways and the

entrance onto Walnut Street have been inspected and cleaned of mold in recent

weeks. " Throwing good money after bad " is how some Hamilton County officials

recently have described expenses for some of the county's older buildings,

including the courthouse.One of those officials, County Commissioner Fred

Skillern, said he supported the latest courthouse work, but may have felt

differently " if I knew then what I knew now. " The courthouse renovations are

" almost a nightmare, " Commission Chairman Larry Henry said.NO TURNING BACK Built

in 1912, the courthouse is in the midst of " Phase V " renovations intended in

part to address mold problems in several locations, including offices for the

county clerk, register of deeds and clerk and master.In addition to the $6.2

million approved since 2001, the county included $3 million for further

renovations in the $125 million bond issue approved last year.There also have

been continuing mold problems on the third floor, where Clerk and

Master Lee Akers, the only official to complain publicly about the mold, has

set up portable air purifiers. Mr. Akers said he wonders if mold is to blame for

his chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, or his employees' frequent bouts of

pneumonia.While acknowledging the problems, commissioners also say that at this

point there's no turning back. " From a cost-effectiveness standpoint, you really

should tear it down and start over, " Commissioner Casavant said. " (But)

we've put a lot of money into the courthouse during the past 10 years. " County

Mayor Claude Ramsey said a new courthouse would cost " many times what we've

spent on this beautiful facility, which is a great asset to the community. " The

city is in the midst of a $12 million renovation to its City Hall. FROM THE

GROUND UP Mr. Ramsey said the first phase of the renovations to address the

courthouse foundation was intended to stop moisture. The plan all along, he

said, was to bring the building up to standard

and then address the areas of mold. " It certainly helped a great deal, " he said

of the foundation work.The health and well-being of county employees is his top

concern, Mr. Ramsey said. He noted his office has had virtually no renovations

since he took office in 1994. " I work here every day, " Mr. Ramsey said.Even if

the county had been inclined to build a new facility, finding a location would

have been a problem.Curtis said if the county could have looked into " a

crystal ball " 10 years ago, it would have looked at building a new joint

city-county facility, similar to what exists in Knoxville. A potential location

could have been where the new County Election Commission Building opened on

Amnicola Highway. " It's too late for that, " Mr. said.BEYOND THE COURTHOUSE

Both Dr. Casavant and Mr. Skillern said the county should think about a building

program to replace some of the other old county facilities.Earlier this month,

Dr. Casavant asked county officials to

conduct an audit of all the county's facilities. He said he was taken aback to

learn that an entire floor of the Hamilton County-Chattanooga Courts Building

was being used for parking, and he said the cost of a new heating, ventilation

and air conditioning system at the Newell Tower on East Seventh Street, which

houses other county offices, also raised questions.That building's HVAC system

will cost more than $700,000. The county received only one bid on the project,

after three attempts to solicit bids.Dr. Casavant pointed out that, unlike the

courthouse, Newell Tower is not historic. " At what point do you decide it would

be better to issue some bonds and build a new building and have it pay off? " he

said.County Finance Director Louis acknowledged the concern but said all

of the offices in Newell Tower, for instance, need to be downtown. " We frankly

right now don't have another location to put a building such as this, " Mr.

said. " We've proven that new

buildings are most cost-efficient than older buildings, but quite frankly

that's how we've acquired additional space in the downtown campus, by purchasing

old buildings. " Mr. Ramsey has in response to Dr. Casavant's request appointed a

three-person committee to take an inventory of all county buildings including

the county's maintenance director, engineer and real property manager.He said

taking inventory of the buildings will be helpful, although any new county

buildings would be far in the future. " We're building schools right now, " Mr.

Ramsey said. " Somewhere there ought to be a longrange plan. But as of now, we

continue to concentrate on the school building program under way. " E-mail Ian

Berry at iberry@... RENOVATION OUTLAYS The Hamilton County

Commission has approved the following expenditures to renovate these buildings

since 2000: Hamilton County Courthouse — $6.2 million Heating/ventilation/ air

conditioning repairs — $1.53 million Hamilton County

Justice Building (includes jail) — $1.5 million Newell Towers — $903,984 MLK

Building — 209,000 Mayfield Annex — 193,872 Hamilton County-Chattanooga Courts

Building: $159,884 Source: Hamilton County documents

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Doug, Jane & LiveSimply,

Thanks for posting these excellant links and the information that

you provide Doug is always invaluable. LiveSimply, you've also

posted an excellant link and Jane when you check out the aspergillus

website be sure to check the image bank. They provide some excellant

photos.

Jane, please keep us informed on any test results your friend

receives. I've often asked the same question what is causing this

severe headpain that not only my wife experiences, but many others

also. It has gotten better since visiting Dr.Shoemaker and being on

the CSM. I often wondered is some form of fungal infection is

causing the headpain. Even today at times it can be very severe. But

not like what it was in the beginning. This has been running nonstop

for about 8 years and this is also what caused me to seek out one of

the top neurotoxicologist in the country in the very beginning,

Dr. Singer. The results of the neurological/psychological

testing is what really kicked me into high gear to determine what

was causing this, again not realizing it was environmental due to

SBS. His results, " toxic encephlopathy (sp) brain damage. " So yes, I

was a bit upset knowing what she was once like before all this

started.

I have been told by several professionals if my wife Sharon had

actual mold colonization that most likely she would no longer be

here. Am I convienced that this is not ocurring anyways, no..

Exactly what's causing this, other than the toxins or lack of

oxygen, I don't know. Doug, you may be able to explain in greater

detail.

There was a case of a seven year old girl out of Atlanta that was on

the evening news several times, doctors had no idea what had caused

this fungal infection/tumors to occur in her body and at the top of

her brain stem. Finally, without any results after using IV's and/or

oral antifungals they decided then to inject antifungals directly

into the brain tumor. Then they were able to see a positive results.

It did start shrinking, but the little girl is now severely

handicapped, to the point of even having to learn to walk all over

again. I had spoken to the parents in the beginning and did not want

to overload them with information, they were dealing with enough. I

just helped to guide them with some resources and professionals that

we deal with.

KC

Sunday, January 14, 2007Costs to mend

courthouse cause concernChattanooga Times Free Press Sat, 13 Jan

2007 10:10 PM PSTMoney spent on new air conditioning, work to rid

mold questionedBy Ian Berry Staff Writer With at least $6.2 million

spent on renovations to the Hamilton County Courthouse since 2001,

the county continues to fight mold infiltrating the historic

building.The renovations, records show, have included more than

$500,000 to waterproof a leaky foundation thought to be the cause of

the building's continuing mold problems. Despite that foundation

work, moisture and mold persist on the first floor, where offices,

hallways and the entrance onto Walnut Street have been inspected and

cleaned of mold in recent weeks. " Throwing good money after bad " is

how some Hamilton County officials recently have described expenses

for some of the county's older buildings, including the

courthouse.One of those officials, County Commissioner Fred

Skillern, said he supported the latest courthouse work, but may have

felt differently " if I knew then what I knew now. " The courthouse

renovations are " almost a nightmare, " Commission Chairman Larry

Henry said.NO TURNING BACK Built in 1912, the courthouse is in the

midst of " Phase V " renovations intended in part to address mold

problems in several locations, including offices for the county

clerk, register of deeds and clerk and master.In addition to the

$6.2 million approved since 2001, the county included $3 million for

further renovations in the $125 million bond issue approved last

year.There also have been continuing mold problems on the third

floor, where Clerk and Master Lee Akers, the only official to

complain publicly about the mold, has set up portable air purifiers.

Mr. Akers said he wonders if mold is to blame for his chronic

obstructive pulmonary disease, or his employees' frequent bouts of

pneumonia.While acknowledging the problems, commissioners also say

that at this point there's no turning back. " From a cost-

effectiveness standpoint, you really should tear it down and start

over, " Commissioner Casavant said. " (But) we've put a lot of

money into the courthouse during the past 10 years. " County Mayor

Claude Ramsey said a new courthouse would cost " many times what

we've spent on this beautiful facility, which is a great asset to

the community. " The city is in the midst of a $12 million renovation

to its City Hall. FROM THE GROUND UP Mr. Ramsey said the first phase

of the renovations to address the courthouse foundation was intended

to stop moisture. The plan all along, he said, was to bring the

building up to standard and then address the areas of mold. " It

certainly helped a great deal, " he said of the foundation work.The

health and well-being of county employees is his top concern, Mr.

Ramsey said. He noted his office has had virtually no renovations

since he took office in 1994. " I work here every day, " Mr. Ramsey

said.Even if the county had been inclined to build a new facility,

finding a location would have been a problem.Curtis said if

the county could have looked into " a crystal ball " 10 years ago, it

would have looked at building a new joint city-county facility,

similar to what exists in Knoxville. A potential location could have

been where the new County Election Commission Building opened on

Amnicola Highway. " It's too late for that, " Mr. said.BEYOND THE

COURTHOUSE Both Dr. Casavant and Mr. Skillern said the county should

think about a building program to replace some of the other old

county facilities.Earlier this month, Dr. Casavant asked county

officials to conduct an audit of all the county's facilities. He

said he was taken aback to learn that an entire floor of the

Hamilton County-Chattanooga Courts Building was being used for

parking, and he said the cost of a new heating, ventilation and air

conditioning system at the Newell Tower on East Seventh Street,

which houses other county offices, also raised questions.That

building's HVAC system will cost more than $700,000. The county

received only one bid on the project, after three attempts to

solicit bids.Dr. Casavant pointed out that, unlike the courthouse,

Newell Tower is not historic. " At what point do you decide it would

be better to issue some bonds and build a new building and have it

pay off? " he said.County Finance Director Louis acknowledged

the concern but said all of the offices in Newell Tower, for

instance, need to be downtown. " We frankly right now don't have

another location to put a building such as this, " Mr.

said. " We've proven that new buildings are most cost-efficient than

older buildings, but quite frankly that's how we've acquired

additional space in the downtown campus, by purchasing old

buildings. " Mr. Ramsey has in response to Dr. Casavant's request

appointed a three-person committee to take an inventory of all

county buildings including the county's maintenance director,

engineer and real property manager.He said taking inventory of the

buildings will be helpful, although any new county buildings would

be far in the future. " We're building schools right now, " Mr. Ramsey

said. " Somewhere there ought to be a longrange plan. But as of now,

we continue to concentrate on the school building program under

way. " E-mail Ian Berry at iberry@... RENOVATION OUTLAYS The Hamilton

County Commission has approved the following expenditures to

renovate these buildings since 2000: Hamilton County Courthouse —

$6.2 million Heating/ventilation/ air conditioning repairs — $1.53

million Hamilton County Justice Building (includes jail) — $1.5

million Newell Towers — $903,984 MLK Building — 209,000 Mayfield

Annex — 193,872 Hamilton County-Chattanooga Courts Building:

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I don't get to read all post but how does that prove he has

aspergillios on his brain? Rhonda

Sunday, January 14, 2007

> >

> > Costs to mend courthouse cause concern

> >

> > Chattanooga Times Free Press Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:10 PM PST

> >

> > Money spent on new air conditioning, work to rid mold questioned

> > By Ian Berry Staff Writer

> >

> > With at least $6.2 million spent on renovations to the Hamilton

> > County Courthouse since 2001, the county continues to fight mold

> > infiltrating the historic building.

> >

> > The renovations, records show, have included more than $500,000

to

> > waterproof a leaky foundation thought to be the cause of the

> > building's continuing mold problems. Despite that foundation

work,

> > moisture and mold persist on the first floor, where offices,

> > hallways and the entrance onto Walnut Street have been inspected

> and

> > cleaned of mold in recent weeks.

> >

> > " Throwing good money after bad " is how some Hamilton County

> > officials recently have described expenses for some of the

county's

> > older buildings, including the courthouse.

> >

> > One of those officials, County Commissioner Fred Skillern, said

he

> > supported the latest courthouse work, but may have felt

> > differently " if I knew then what I knew now. " The courthouse

> > renovations are " almost a nightmare, " Commission Chairman Larry

> > Henry said.

> >

> > NO TURNING BACK Built in 1912, the courthouse is in the midst

> > of " Phase V " renovations intended in part to address mold

problems

> > in several locations, including offices for the county clerk,

> > register of deeds and clerk and master.

> >

> > In addition to the $6.2 million approved since 2001, the county

> > included $3 million for further renovations in the $125 million

> bond

> > issue approved last year.

> >

> > There also have been continuing mold problems on the third floor,

> > where Clerk and Master Lee Akers, the only official to complain

> > publicly about the mold, has set up portable air purifiers. Mr.

> > Akers said he wonders if mold is to blame for his chronic

> > obstructive pulmonary disease, or his employees' frequent bouts

of

> > pneumonia.

> >

> > While acknowledging the problems, commissioners also say that at

> > this point there's no turning back.

> >

> > " From a cost-effectiveness standpoint, you really should tear it

> > down and start over, " Commissioner Casavant said. " (But)

> > we've put a lot of money into the courthouse during the past 10

> > years. "

> >

> > County Mayor Claude Ramsey said a new courthouse would cost " many

> > times what we've spent on this beautiful facility, which is a

great

> > asset to the community. "

> >

> > The city is in the midst of a $12 million renovation to its City

> > Hall. FROM THE GROUND UP Mr. Ramsey said the first phase of the

> > renovations to address the courthouse foundation was intended to

> > stop moisture. The plan all along, he said, was to bring the

> > building up to standard and then address the areas of mold.

> >

> > " It certainly helped a great deal, " he said of the foundation

work.

> >

> > The health and well-being of county employees is his top concern,

> > Mr. Ramsey said. He noted his office has had virtually no

> > renovations since he took office in 1994. " I work here every

day, "

> > Mr. Ramsey said.

> >

> > Even if the county had been inclined to build a new facility,

> > finding a location would have been a problem.

> >

> > Curtis said if the county could have looked into " a crystal

> > ball " 10 years ago, it would have looked at building a new joint

> > city-county facility, similar to what exists in Knoxville. A

> > potential location could have been where the new County Election

> > Commission Building opened on Amnicola Highway.

> >

> > " It's too late for that, " Mr. said.

> >

> > BEYOND THE COURTHOUSE Both Dr. Casavant and Mr. Skillern said the

> > county should think about a building program to replace some of

the

> > other old county facilities.

> >

> > Earlier this month, Dr. Casavant asked county officials to

conduct

> > an audit of all the county's facilities. He said he was taken

aback

> > to learn that an entire floor of the Hamilton County-Chattanooga

> > Courts Building was being used for parking, and he said the cost

of

> > a new heating, ventilation and air conditioning system at the

> Newell

> > Tower on East Seventh Street, which houses other county offices,

> > also raised questions.

> >

> > That building's HVAC system will cost more than $700,000. The

> county

> > received only one bid on the project, after three attempts to

> > solicit bids.

> >

> > Dr. Casavant pointed out that, unlike the courthouse, Newell

Tower

> > is not historic.

> >

> > " At what point do you decide it would be better to issue some

bonds

> > and build a new building and have it pay off? " he said.

> >

> > County Finance Director Louis acknowledged the concern but

> > said all of the offices in Newell Tower, for instance, need to be

> > downtown.

> >

> > " We frankly right now don't have another location to put a

building

> > such as this, " Mr. said. " We've proven that new buildings

> are

> > most cost-efficient than older buildings, but quite frankly

that's

> > how we've acquired additional space in the downtown campus, by

> > purchasing old buildings. "

> >

> > Mr. Ramsey has in response to Dr. Casavant's request appointed a

> > three-person committee to take an inventory of all county

buildings

> > including the county's maintenance director, engineer and real

> > property manager.

> >

> > He said taking inventory of the buildings will be helpful,

although

> > any new county buildings would be far in the future.

> >

> > " We're building schools right now, " Mr. Ramsey said. " Somewhere

> > there ought to be a longrange plan. But as of now, we continue to

> > concentrate on the school building program under way. "

> >

> > E-mail Ian Berry at iberry@ RENOVATION OUTLAYS The

> > Hamilton County Commission has approved the following

expenditures

> > to renovate these buildings since 2000: Hamilton County

Courthouse —

>

> > $6.2 million Heating/ventilation/ air conditioning repairs —

$1.53

> > million Hamilton County Justice Building (includes jail) — $1.5

> > million Newell Towers — $903,984 MLK Building — 209,000 Mayfield

> > Annex — 193,872 Hamilton County-Chattanooga Courts Building:

> > $159,884 Source: Hamilton County documents

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Read this after the other post. Yuck!!! Rhonda

Sunday, January 14, 2007

> >

> > Costs to mend courthouse cause concern

> >

> > Chattanooga Times Free Press Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:10 PM PST

> >

> > Money spent on new air conditioning, work to rid mold questioned

> > By Ian Berry Staff Writer

> >

> > With at least $6.2 million spent on renovations to the Hamilton

> > County Courthouse since 2001, the county continues to fight mold

> > infiltrating the historic building.

> >

> > The renovations, records show, have included more than $500,000

to

> > waterproof a leaky foundation thought to be the cause of the

> > building's continuing mold problems. Despite that foundation

work,

> > moisture and mold persist on the first floor, where offices,

> > hallways and the entrance onto Walnut Street have been inspected

> and

> > cleaned of mold in recent weeks.

> >

> > " Throwing good money after bad " is how some Hamilton County

> > officials recently have described expenses for some of the

county's

> > older buildings, including the courthouse.

> >

> > One of those officials, County Commissioner Fred Skillern, said

he

> > supported the latest courthouse work, but may have felt

> > differently " if I knew then what I knew now. " The courthouse

> > renovations are " almost a nightmare, " Commission Chairman Larry

> > Henry said.

> >

> > NO TURNING BACK Built in 1912, the courthouse is in the midst

> > of " Phase V " renovations intended in part to address mold

problems

> > in several locations, including offices for the county clerk,

> > register of deeds and clerk and master.

> >

> > In addition to the $6.2 million approved since 2001, the county

> > included $3 million for further renovations in the $125 million

> bond

> > issue approved last year.

> >

> > There also have been continuing mold problems on the third floor,

> > where Clerk and Master Lee Akers, the only official to complain

> > publicly about the mold, has set up portable air purifiers. Mr.

> > Akers said he wonders if mold is to blame for his chronic

> > obstructive pulmonary disease, or his employees' frequent bouts

of

> > pneumonia.

> >

> > While acknowledging the problems, commissioners also say that at

> > this point there's no turning back.

> >

> > " From a cost-effectiveness standpoint, you really should tear it

> > down and start over, " Commissioner Casavant said. " (But)

> > we've put a lot of money into the courthouse during the past 10

> > years. "

> >

> > County Mayor Claude Ramsey said a new courthouse would cost " many

> > times what we've spent on this beautiful facility, which is a

great

> > asset to the community. "

> >

> > The city is in the midst of a $12 million renovation to its City

> > Hall. FROM THE GROUND UP Mr. Ramsey said the first phase of the

> > renovations to address the courthouse foundation was intended to

> > stop moisture. The plan all along, he said, was to bring the

> > building up to standard and then address the areas of mold.

> >

> > " It certainly helped a great deal, " he said of the foundation

work.

> >

> > The health and well-being of county employees is his top concern,

> > Mr. Ramsey said. He noted his office has had virtually no

> > renovations since he took office in 1994. " I work here every

day, "

> > Mr. Ramsey said.

> >

> > Even if the county had been inclined to build a new facility,

> > finding a location would have been a problem.

> >

> > Curtis said if the county could have looked into " a crystal

> > ball " 10 years ago, it would have looked at building a new joint

> > city-county facility, similar to what exists in Knoxville. A

> > potential location could have been where the new County Election

> > Commission Building opened on Amnicola Highway.

> >

> > " It's too late for that, " Mr. said.

> >

> > BEYOND THE COURTHOUSE Both Dr. Casavant and Mr. Skillern said the

> > county should think about a building program to replace some of

the

> > other old county facilities.

> >

> > Earlier this month, Dr. Casavant asked county officials to

conduct

> > an audit of all the county's facilities. He said he was taken

aback

> > to learn that an entire floor of the Hamilton County-Chattanooga

> > Courts Building was being used for parking, and he said the cost

of

> > a new heating, ventilation and air conditioning system at the

> Newell

> > Tower on East Seventh Street, which houses other county offices,

> > also raised questions.

> >

> > That building's HVAC system will cost more than $700,000. The

> county

> > received only one bid on the project, after three attempts to

> > solicit bids.

> >

> > Dr. Casavant pointed out that, unlike the courthouse, Newell

Tower

> > is not historic.

> >

> > " At what point do you decide it would be better to issue some

bonds

> > and build a new building and have it pay off? " he said.

> >

> > County Finance Director Louis acknowledged the concern but

> > said all of the offices in Newell Tower, for instance, need to be

> > downtown.

> >

> > " We frankly right now don't have another location to put a

building

> > such as this, " Mr. said. " We've proven that new buildings

> are

> > most cost-efficient than older buildings, but quite frankly

that's

> > how we've acquired additional space in the downtown campus, by

> > purchasing old buildings. "

> >

> > Mr. Ramsey has in response to Dr. Casavant's request appointed a

> > three-person committee to take an inventory of all county

buildings

> > including the county's maintenance director, engineer and real

> > property manager.

> >

> > He said taking inventory of the buildings will be helpful,

although

> > any new county buildings would be far in the future.

> >

> > " We're building schools right now, " Mr. Ramsey said. " Somewhere

> > there ought to be a longrange plan. But as of now, we continue to

> > concentrate on the school building program under way. "

> >

> > E-mail Ian Berry at iberry@ RENOVATION OUTLAYS The

> > Hamilton County Commission has approved the following

expenditures

> > to renovate these buildings since 2000: Hamilton County

Courthouse —

>

> > $6.2 million Heating/ventilation/ air conditioning repairs —

$1.53

> > million Hamilton County Justice Building (includes jail) — $1.5

> > million Newell Towers — $903,984 MLK Building — 209,000 Mayfield

> > Annex — 193,872 Hamilton County-Chattanooga Courts Building:

> > $159,884 Source: Hamilton County documents

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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yes, thanks. it's pretty scary to read this article that Doug posted.

and aspergillus.org is pretty scary. the only comfort is in reading

that it usually happens pretty fast so hopefully not to any of us.

Jane, I wish the best for your friend. it's horrable that anyone has

to go through this. Sunday, January 14, 2007Costs to mend

> courthouse cause concernChattanooga Times Free Press Sat, 13 Jan

> 2007 10:10 PM PSTMoney spent on new air conditioning, work to rid

> mold questionedBy Ian Berry Staff Writer With at least $6.2 million

> spent on renovations to the Hamilton County Courthouse since 2001,

> the county continues to fight mold infiltrating the historic

> building.The renovations, records show, have included more than

> $500,000 to waterproof a leaky foundation thought to be the cause

of

> the building's continuing mold problems. Despite that foundation

> work, moisture and mold persist on the first floor, where offices,

> hallways and the entrance onto Walnut Street have been inspected

and

> cleaned of mold in recent weeks. " Throwing good money after bad " is

> how some Hamilton County officials recently have described expenses

> for some of the county's older buildings, including the

> courthouse.One of those officials, County Commissioner Fred

> Skillern, said he supported the latest courthouse work, but may

have

> felt differently " if I knew then what I knew now. " The courthouse

> renovations are " almost a nightmare, " Commission Chairman Larry

> Henry said.NO TURNING BACK Built in 1912, the courthouse is in the

> midst of " Phase V " renovations intended in part to address mold

> problems in several locations, including offices for the county

> clerk, register of deeds and clerk and master.In addition to the

> $6.2 million approved since 2001, the county included $3 million

for

> further renovations in the $125 million bond issue approved last

> year.There also have been continuing mold problems on the third

> floor, where Clerk and Master Lee Akers, the only official to

> complain publicly about the mold, has set up portable air

purifiers.

> Mr. Akers said he wonders if mold is to blame for his chronic

> obstructive pulmonary disease, or his employees' frequent bouts of

> pneumonia.While acknowledging the problems, commissioners also say

> that at this point there's no turning back. " From a cost-

> effectiveness standpoint, you really should tear it down and start

> over, " Commissioner Casavant said. " (But) we've put a lot

of

> money into the courthouse during the past 10 years. " County Mayor

> Claude Ramsey said a new courthouse would cost " many times what

> we've spent on this beautiful facility, which is a great asset to

> the community. " The city is in the midst of a $12 million renovation

> to its City Hall. FROM THE GROUND UP Mr. Ramsey said the first

phase

> of the renovations to address the courthouse foundation was

intended

> to stop moisture. The plan all along, he said, was to bring the

> building up to standard and then address the areas of mold. " It

> certainly helped a great deal, " he said of the foundation work.The

> health and well-being of county employees is his top concern, Mr.

> Ramsey said. He noted his office has had virtually no renovations

> since he took office in 1994. " I work here every day, " Mr. Ramsey

> said.Even if the county had been inclined to build a new facility,

> finding a location would have been a problem.Curtis said if

> the county could have looked into " a crystal ball " 10 years ago, it

> would have looked at building a new joint city-county facility,

> similar to what exists in Knoxville. A potential location could

have

> been where the new County Election Commission Building opened on

> Amnicola Highway. " It's too late for that, " Mr. said.BEYOND

THE

> COURTHOUSE Both Dr. Casavant and Mr. Skillern said the county

should

> think about a building program to replace some of the other old

> county facilities.Earlier this month, Dr. Casavant asked county

> officials to conduct an audit of all the county's facilities. He

> said he was taken aback to learn that an entire floor of the

> Hamilton County-Chattanooga Courts Building was being used for

> parking, and he said the cost of a new heating, ventilation and air

> conditioning system at the Newell Tower on East Seventh Street,

> which houses other county offices, also raised questions.That

> building's HVAC system will cost more than $700,000. The county

> received only one bid on the project, after three attempts to

> solicit bids.Dr. Casavant pointed out that, unlike the courthouse,

> Newell Tower is not historic. " At what point do you decide it would

> be better to issue some bonds and build a new building and have it

> pay off? " he said.County Finance Director Louis acknowledged

> the concern but said all of the offices in Newell Tower, for

> instance, need to be downtown. " We frankly right now don't have

> another location to put a building such as this, " Mr.

> said. " We've proven that new buildings are most cost-efficient than

> older buildings, but quite frankly that's how we've acquired

> additional space in the downtown campus, by purchasing old

> buildings. " Mr. Ramsey has in response to Dr. Casavant's request

> appointed a three-person committee to take an inventory of all

> county buildings including the county's maintenance director,

> engineer and real property manager.He said taking inventory of the

> buildings will be helpful, although any new county buildings would

> be far in the future. " We're building schools right now, " Mr. Ramsey

> said. " Somewhere there ought to be a longrange plan. But as of now,

> we continue to concentrate on the school building program under

> way. " E-mail Ian Berry at iberry@ RENOVATION OUTLAYS The Hamilton

> County Commission has approved the following expenditures to

> renovate these buildings since 2000: Hamilton County Courthouse —

> $6.2 million Heating/ventilation/ air conditioning repairs — $1.53

> million Hamilton County Justice Building (includes jail) — $1.5

> million Newell Towers — $903,984 MLK Building — 209,000 Mayfield

> Annex — 193,872 Hamilton County-Chattanooga Courts Building:

> $159,884 Source: Hamilton County documents -------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Jane, sorry, a little slow today, just read where biopsy was

aspergillus, thats so scary, hopeing the best for your friend. is it

from this hamilton court house in 2001 where he was exposed? can you

tell us more about his exposure? how long has he been suffering the

migranes? I know several here suffer from migranes and facial pains

and sinusitis but it's really scary when you hear about someone where

its found in the brain. Sunday, January 14, 2007Costs to mend

> courthouse cause concernChattanooga Times Free Press Sat, 13 Jan

> 2007 10:10 PM PSTMoney spent on new air conditioning, work to rid

> mold questionedBy Ian Berry Staff Writer With at least $6.2 million

> spent on renovations to the Hamilton County Courthouse since 2001,

> the county continues to fight mold infiltrating the historic

> building.The renovations, records show, have included more than

> $500,000 to waterproof a leaky foundation thought to be the cause

of

> the building's continuing mold problems. Despite that foundation

> work, moisture and mold persist on the first floor, where offices,

> hallways and the entrance onto Walnut Street have been inspected

and

> cleaned of mold in recent weeks. " Throwing good money after bad " is

> how some Hamilton County officials recently have described expenses

> for some of the county's older buildings, including the

> courthouse.One of those officials, County Commissioner Fred

> Skillern, said he supported the latest courthouse work, but may

have

> felt differently " if I knew then what I knew now. " The courthouse

> renovations are " almost a nightmare, " Commission Chairman Larry

> Henry said.NO TURNING BACK Built in 1912, the courthouse is in the

> midst of " Phase V " renovations intended in part to address mold

> problems in several locations, including offices for the county

> clerk, register of deeds and clerk and master.In addition to the

> $6.2 million approved since 2001, the county included $3 million

for

> further renovations in the $125 million bond issue approved last

> year.There also have been continuing mold problems on the third

> floor, where Clerk and Master Lee Akers, the only official to

> complain publicly about the mold, has set up portable air

purifiers.

> Mr. Akers said he wonders if mold is to blame for his chronic

> obstructive pulmonary disease, or his employees' frequent bouts of

> pneumonia.While acknowledging the problems, commissioners also say

> that at this point there's no turning back. " From a cost-

> effectiveness standpoint, you really should tear it down and start

> over, " Commissioner Casavant said. " (But) we've put a lot

of

> money into the courthouse during the past 10 years. " County Mayor

> Claude Ramsey said a new courthouse would cost " many times what

> we've spent on this beautiful facility, which is a great asset to

> the community. " The city is in the midst of a $12 million renovation

> to its City Hall. FROM THE GROUND UP Mr. Ramsey said the first

phase

> of the renovations to address the courthouse foundation was

intended

> to stop moisture. The plan all along, he said, was to bring the

> building up to standard and then address the areas of mold. " It

> certainly helped a great deal, " he said of the foundation work.The

> health and well-being of county employees is his top concern, Mr.

> Ramsey said. He noted his office has had virtually no renovations

> since he took office in 1994. " I work here every day, " Mr. Ramsey

> said.Even if the county had been inclined to build a new facility,

> finding a location would have been a problem.Curtis said if

> the county could have looked into " a crystal ball " 10 years ago, it

> would have looked at building a new joint city-county facility,

> similar to what exists in Knoxville. A potential location could

have

> been where the new County Election Commission Building opened on

> Amnicola Highway. " It's too late for that, " Mr. said.BEYOND

THE

> COURTHOUSE Both Dr. Casavant and Mr. Skillern said the county

should

> think about a building program to replace some of the other old

> county facilities.Earlier this month, Dr. Casavant asked county

> officials to conduct an audit of all the county's facilities. He

> said he was taken aback to learn that an entire floor of the

> Hamilton County-Chattanooga Courts Building was being used for

> parking, and he said the cost of a new heating, ventilation and air

> conditioning system at the Newell Tower on East Seventh Street,

> which houses other county offices, also raised questions.That

> building's HVAC system will cost more than $700,000. The county

> received only one bid on the project, after three attempts to

> solicit bids.Dr. Casavant pointed out that, unlike the courthouse,

> Newell Tower is not historic. " At what point do you decide it would

> be better to issue some bonds and build a new building and have it

> pay off? " he said.County Finance Director Louis acknowledged

> the concern but said all of the offices in Newell Tower, for

> instance, need to be downtown. " We frankly right now don't have

> another location to put a building such as this, " Mr.

> said. " We've proven that new buildings are most cost-efficient than

> older buildings, but quite frankly that's how we've acquired

> additional space in the downtown campus, by purchasing old

> buildings. " Mr. Ramsey has in response to Dr. Casavant's request

> appointed a three-person committee to take an inventory of all

> county buildings including the county's maintenance director,

> engineer and real property manager.He said taking inventory of the

> buildings will be helpful, although any new county buildings would

> be far in the future. " We're building schools right now, " Mr. Ramsey

> said. " Somewhere there ought to be a longrange plan. But as of now,

> we continue to concentrate on the school building program under

> way. " E-mail Ian Berry at iberry@ RENOVATION OUTLAYS The Hamilton

> County Commission has approved the following expenditures to

> renovate these buildings since 2000: Hamilton County Courthouse —

> $6.2 million Heating/ventilation/ air conditioning repairs — $1.53

> million Hamilton County Justice Building (includes jail) — $1.5

> million Newell Towers — $903,984 MLK Building — 209,000 Mayfield

> Annex — 193,872 Hamilton County-Chattanooga Courts Building:

> $159,884 Source: Hamilton County documents -------------------------

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[Guest guest]

yes, Thanks Doug.

and Live I agree, mold/myco's are known to affect the weakest organs

first and it makes sence that children and older people would have

weaker defences to fight it. I read something somewhere about how

fast decomposure starts,apon death and sometimes before death.

> >

> > KC (Jane & LiveSimply): In understanding the reason micro fungi

do what

> > they do, the simplest " on/off switch " reason is that they are

primary

> > " decomposers. " Decomposers are scavengers in that they will feed

on nearly

> > anything as their " prey " , including animals and humans. Micro

fungi are not

> > " plant life " and are far removed from plants physically,

genetically,

> > structureally, and in how they create and feed of the nutrients

that they

> > grow from. They are not mobile but stationary and this is why

they often are

> > mistaken for plant life. The very reason they are able to elude

the human

> > immune system is that they have a very similar appearance with

our human

> > immune cells. I personally refer to our human immune system as

our " human

> > fungal system " because as micro fungi cells are generated from

basic

> > chemical structure so are the human immune cells. In addressing

their prey,

> > micro fungi cells are very similar to human immune system cells,

or vice

> > versa. In escaping detection within the human body by the immune

system

> > cells, they are able to deceive our immune cells in a process

called

> > " molecular mimicry. " This same process is why micro fungi are

extremely

> > difficult to detect in our blood serum as they take on the

appearance of

> > human blood cells cells in traveling through the human blood

stream to where

> > they need to go to do what they need to do. The micro fungi cell

appears

> > very much like a blood cell except for one critical fact; they

are much

> > smaller than human blood cells. It is interesting to note, that

micro fungi

> > are closer to humans than their counterpart " primary decomposers "

bacteria.

> > In fact, fungi cells have a defined " nucleus " , whereas bacteria

do not have

> > a nucleus. The micro fungi are allowed by our molecular system to

penetrate

> > further into the human body because the human immune cells

usually do not

> > recognize them as pathogens (disease causing) as some Gram-

Negative and

> > Gram-Positive bacteria are immediately recognized. Molds invade

very subtly

> > and absorb chemically as pathogens integrating with human cells

over

> > sometimes months and years to invade and mutate cells, as opposed

to

> > bacteria and viruses which are often immediately recognized

before they can

> > do harm. In this way micro fungi are able to adapt and eventually

gain

> > strength in numbers (or clusters) as " colonies. " When symptoms

arise it

> > often signals to the human body cells that micro fungi are

decomposing or

> > attempting to decompose by first feeding off from what their

human host is

> > feeding on (i.e., sugars, starches, proteins, etc.) and then

instead of

> > being content, the micro fungi begin " opportunistically " to

release

> > mycotoxins (poisons) that continuously attack the human cell

genetic

> > structure. This begins in a process of friction, followed by

inflammation as

> > weakened human cell chemistry clashes and eventually gives way to

mycotoxin

> > chemistry in challenging and changing DNA/RNA (genetic) amino

acid string

> > bases. This process leads to diseases because both human cells,

micro fungi

> > cells, bacterial cells, and other live organism cells that

compose the human

> > body also become ill along the way. This is a two-billion year

old microbial

> > (live cell) war that has been going on internally called " the

Carbon Cycle "

> > or " dust-to-dust " Think about it, a person usually does not die

suddenly

> > naturally, but slowly over years (such as in cancers, MS,

Parkinson's, etc.)

> > in a decomposing process in which the organs begin to fail.

Normally it is

> > not one organ that fails but a cascade of failures before death.

However,

> > this process has a very fast nature to it as well, such as

observed with

> > Mucormycosis. It also is not often a challenge of one micro

fungal species

> > but several giving off many types of mycotoxins in the process,

unlike

> > bacteria that usually is an attack by one bacterial species. This

is why it

> > is extremely difficult to pinpoint " dose-response " in the

formation of

> > fungal exposures and the disease process.

> >

> > Hope this helps.

> >

> > God Bless you and your continuing progress toward improved health.

> >

> > Doug Haney

> > EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.

> > Email: _Haney52@... <_Haney52%40hotmail.com>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

you know, I use to pass for 10 years younger and felt that way too.

now I fell 30 years older most days. it's kind of strange to watch my

mom and dad at thier age with thier ackes and pain and to compare

them to my own. this disease does age you in many ways. it's like a

young mind(a bit disfunctional)in a old tried body.

> >

> > KC (Jane & LiveSimply): In understanding the reason micro fungi

do what

> > they do, the simplest " on/off switch " reason is that they are

primary

> > " decomposers. " Decomposers are scavengers in that they will feed

on nearly

> > anything as their " prey " , including animals and humans. Micro

fungi are not

> > " plant life " and are far removed from plants physically,

genetically,

> > structureally, and in how they create and feed of the nutrients

that they

> > grow from. They are not mobile but stationary and this is why

they often are

> > mistaken for plant life. The very reason they are able to elude

the human

> > immune system is that they have a very similar appearance with

our human

> > immune cells. I personally refer to our human immune system as

our " human

> > fungal system " because as micro fungi cells are generated from

basic

> > chemical structure so are the human immune cells. In addressing

their prey,

> > micro fungi cells are very similar to human immune system cells,

or vice

> > versa. In escaping detection within the human body by the immune

system

> > cells, they are able to deceive our immune cells in a process

called

> > " molecular mimicry. " This same process is why micro fungi are

extremely

> > difficult to detect in our blood serum as they take on the

appearance of

> > human blood cells cells in traveling through the human blood

stream to where

> > they need to go to do what they need to do. The micro fungi cell

appears

> > very much like a blood cell except for one critical fact; they

are much

> > smaller than human blood cells. It is interesting to note, that

micro fungi

> > are closer to humans than their counterpart " primary decomposers "

bacteria.

> > In fact, fungi cells have a defined " nucleus " , whereas bacteria

do not have

> > a nucleus. The micro fungi are allowed by our molecular system to

penetrate

> > further into the human body because the human immune cells

usually do not

> > recognize them as pathogens (disease causing) as some Gram-

Negative and

> > Gram-Positive bacteria are immediately recognized. Molds invade

very subtly

> > and absorb chemically as pathogens integrating with human cells

over

> > sometimes months and years to invade and mutate cells, as opposed

to

> > bacteria and viruses which are often immediately recognized

before they can

> > do harm. In this way micro fungi are able to adapt and eventually

gain

> > strength in numbers (or clusters) as " colonies. " When symptoms

arise it

> > often signals to the human body cells that micro fungi are

decomposing or

> > attempting to decompose by first feeding off from what their

human host is

> > feeding on (i.e., sugars, starches, proteins, etc.) and then

instead of

> > being content, the micro fungi begin " opportunistically " to

release

> > mycotoxins (poisons) that continuously attack the human cell

genetic

> > structure. This begins in a process of friction, followed by

inflammation as

> > weakened human cell chemistry clashes and eventually gives way to

mycotoxin

> > chemistry in challenging and changing DNA/RNA (genetic) amino

acid string

> > bases. This process leads to diseases because both human cells,

micro fungi

> > cells, bacterial cells, and other live organism cells that

compose the human

> > body also become ill along the way. This is a two-billion year

old microbial

> > (live cell) war that has been going on internally called " the

Carbon Cycle "

> > or " dust-to-dust " Think about it, a person usually does not die

suddenly

> > naturally, but slowly over years (such as in cancers, MS,

Parkinson's, etc.)

> > in a decomposing process in which the organs begin to fail.

Normally it is

> > not one organ that fails but a cascade of failures before death.

However,

> > this process has a very fast nature to it as well, such as

observed with

> > Mucormycosis. It also is not often a challenge of one micro

fungal species

> > but several giving off many types of mycotoxins in the process,

unlike

> > bacteria that usually is an attack by one bacterial species. This

is why it

> > is extremely difficult to pinpoint " dose-response " in the

formation of

> > fungal exposures and the disease process.

> >

> > Hope this helps.

> >

> > God Bless you and your continuing progress toward improved health.

> >

> > Doug Haney

> > EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.

> > Email: _Haney52@... <_Haney52%40hotmail.com>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Speaking of neurologists, I was talking to a lady today who knows

nothing about my issues with mold. She said she just got results back

from a neurologist that she had mold growing in her sinuses. She said

they found this on a MRI! Of course, I had to jump right on to that

one. I asked what she was being treated with and she said an

antibotic, bactrin! I would assume this would make th mold worse in her

sinuses!

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> But you ALSO need to consider the possibility that whatever is making

her

> have these headaches is NOT MOLD, it might be a brain tumor or

something

> like that. If you have not already, she needs to have a neurologist

look at

> the situation and she should get a brain scan to rule out possible

other

> causes.. This can be expensive but don't scrimp on this!

>

[Guest guest]

Way to go, Doug! Glad to hear that you are helping lead the fight.

>

> : I am only very pleased to contribute when I am able.

However, there are many things happening behind the scene that keep

me from relating too much, too soon. But, 2007 is going to be

the " mold victim's " year. When the time is ripe, many questions ARE

going to be answered and many of those who condemn human health due

to indoor fungal exposures will be paying dearly. Watch the news, and

continue to contribute. God Bless you and your health.

>

> Doug Haney

>

>

>

> @...: toriaquilts@...: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:26:07 -

0800Subject: Re: [] Re: KC--Fellow patient has

aspergillus growing in the brain

>

>

>

>

> Hi Doug--Just wanted to say you are SUCH an important & integral

part to our group here.....thank you, SO much from all of us, I'm

sure, for taking an active role here!God bless!----- Original

Message ----- From: Haney

Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:23 AMSubject: RE: []

Re: KC--Fellow patient has aspergillus growing in the brainKC (Jane &

LiveSimply): In understanding the reason micro fungi do what they do,

the simplest " on/off switch " reason is that they are

primary " decomposers. " Decomposers are scavengers in that they will

feed on nearly anything as their " prey " , including animals and

humans. Micro fungi are not " plant life " and are far removed from

plants physically, genetically, structureally, and in how they create

and feed of the nutrients that they grow from. They are not mobile

but stationary and this is why they often are mistaken for plant

life. The very reason they are able to elude the human immune system

is that they have a very similar appearance with our human immune

cells. I personally refer to our human immune system as our " human

fungal system " because as micro fungi cells are generated from basic

chemical structure so are the human immune cells. In addressing their

prey, micro fungi cells are very simila! r to human immune system

cells, or vice versa. In escaping detection within the human body by

the immune system cells, they are able to deceive our immune cells in

a process called " molecular mimicry. " This same process is why micro

fungi are extremely difficult to detect in our blood serum as they

take on the appearance of human blood cells cells in traveling

through the human blood stream to where they need to go to do what

they need to do. The micro fungi cell appears very much like a blood

cell except for one critical fact; they are much smaller than human

blood cells. It is interesting to note, that micro fungi are closer

to humans than their counterpart " primary decomposers " bacteria. In

fact, fungi cells have a defined " nucleus " , whereas bacteria do not

have a nucleus. The micro fungi are allowed by our molecular system

to penetrate further into the human body because the human immune

cells usually do not recognize them as pathogens (dis! ease causing)

as some Gram-Negative and Gram-Positive bacteria are imm ediately

recognized. Molds invade very subtly and absorb chemically as

pathogens integrating with human cells over sometimes months and

years to invade and mutate cells, as opposed to bacteria and viruses

which are often immediately recognized before they can do harm. In

this way micro fungi are able to adapt and eventually gain strength

in numbers (or clusters) as " colonies. " When symptoms arise it often

signals to the human body cells that micro fungi are decomposing or

attempting to decompose by first feeding off from what their human

host is feeding on (i.e., sugars, starches, proteins, etc.) and then

instead of being content, the micro fungi begin " opportunistically "

to release mycotoxins (poisons) that continuously attack the human

cell genetic structure. This begins in a process of friction,

followed by inflammation as weakened human cell chemistry clashes and

eventually gives way to mycotoxin chemistry in challenging and

changing DNA/RNA (genetic! ) amino acid string bases. This process

leads to diseases because both human cells, micro fungi cells,

bacterial cells, and other live organism cells that compose the human

body also become ill along the way. This is a two-billion year old

microbial (live cell) war that has been going on internally

called " the Carbon Cycle " or " dust-to-dust " Think about it, a person

usually does not die suddenly naturally, but slowly over years (such

as in cancers, MS, Parkinson's, etc.) in a decomposing process in

which the organs begin to fail. Normally it is not one organ that

fails but a cascade of failures before death. However, this process

has a very fast nature to it as well, such as observed with

Mucormycosis. It also is not often a challenge of one micro fungal

species but several giving off many types of mycotoxins in the

process, unlike bacteria that usually is an attack by one bacterial

species. This is why it is extremely difficult to pinpoint " dose-!

response " in the formation of fungal exposures and the disease pr

ocess. Hope this helps. God Bless you and your continuing progress

toward improved health. Doug HaneyEnviroHealth Research & Consulting,

Inc.Email:

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[Guest guest]

yes, as though everything else is not enough.

>

> that's me only I used to look 15 years younger, have a life, and

now people call me " maam. " that hurts doesn't it? not really an

issue just another punch.

[Guest guest]

....as people age also, doctor's ignore more and more illness in

people, assuming it is age related. Even things that could be

treated and if nothing else, relieve alot of suffering. On the

other hand, if you are " incorrect " age for something common for

older people, you might be ignored if you are young. LIke you have

chest pains and are young, many doctor I think will say things like

probably indigestion, etc without looking into heart trouble.

Whereas if you are over 60 say, they might send you right for a

catscan. I think doctor's don't listen well to patients and are not

open minded. If I were a doctor I would believe everything I was

told until I knew for sure otherwise. Just like Dr Marinkovich

said, he sees no reason to disbelieve people and to treat them as if

they are malingerers. That should be the attitude, especially for

people in a field to treat ill people (!!!) but it is actually such

a rare viewpoint unfortunately.

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>> Aging.. The way you describe the process of aging is a lot like

the way I

> see it too, and I think that the inherent inflammation

> that comes with aging and its glycation end products is probably

one of the

> reasons older people are more suceptible

> to mold illness. I've read that when you are old, often you have

infections

>

[Guest guest]

....always before death, unless you are healthy but in accident.

>

> yes, Thanks Doug.

> and Live I agree, mold/myco's are known to affect the weakest organs

> first and it makes sence that children and older people would have

> weaker defences to fight it. I read something somewhere about how

> fast decomposure starts,apon death and sometimes before death.

[Guest guest]

Reading about Piracetam, it reminds me of a vasodilator or EVEN

caffein. I believe caffein works to make mind work better by speeding

up circulation and therefore delivering more oxygen to brain, and this

is why I believe it works on migraines. Hyerbaric oxygen takes my

migraines away in seconds, vasodilators are the expensive Rx medicine

for migraines and simply caffein if taken early enough (and not too

much and not too little) can turn one off too. Increasing oxygen to

brain, also improves memory and shuts down a migraine. I think

migraines are due to blood vessel inflamation that cuts off blood

supply to part of brain, causing pain due to being deprived of

oxygen.

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> ,

>

> Have you tried PIRACETAM for your wife's headaches? Piracetam is a

> neuroprotective supplement that is affordable and which has 40 years

of

>

[Guest guest]

Sue, please give a hint as to what was in Oct 06 National Geographic.

Thanks.

>

>> Did you see the Oct. 2006 National Geographic? I've copied and

given it to

> my Dr., dentist and many others!!

>

>

[Guest guest]

LS,

Thanks, but no I have not tried this medication. But we have tried

just about everything else. We have been to see some of the best

neurologist in the Atlanta area, we've had several MRI's, MRA's done

and according to them they were normal. I hate to say headache

because it is almost an insult, what she is experiencing and others.

So I'm going to refer to it as headpain. Even migraines that my wife

never had and info from others on their description of this type of

headpain also does not fit what they are experiencing. Of course,

this was in the very early stages when we did not know anything and

we weren't necessarily looking for a cause. At that time we were

going pretty much on what the physicians said. They diagnosed her

with migranes, cluster migranes and they had put her on all types of

medication. None of which even touched the pain. Not to mention she

was not experiencing any of the " usual " symptoms that go hand and

hand with a migrane.

Things started to get worse, we had 2 spinal taps done and this is

the only test that came back somewhat abnormal and they still

ignored certain levels. From what I can remember her protein levels

were elevated and I think the other was glucose (I may be wrong on

the glucose.) What they did say if certain levels were a little bit

higher they would be considering spinal meningitis.

Symptoms continued to get worse, at the same time she kept going

back into what we now know as a toxic environment. High levels of

mold and bacteria (test results showed.) She started leaking fluid

from the ear, this was one reason for the spinal taps and this is

also the only time she was without any type of headpain whatsoever.

Which lasted for 3 days. Most of the time spinal taps will cause a

severe headpain and they make you lie on the table for approx an

hour. She was up in 5 minutes and as happy as could be. The doctors

were stunned. I begged them to admit her into Emory University Hosp.

for observation, I think they did this to finally shut me up and now

I was seeing a senior neurologist, oh boy...

I had been doing research on pseudotumors and I had another friends

wife go through the same thing. Symptoms were very closely related.

They put a shunt in and she was on her way. I mentioned this to the

senior neuro and after 3 days she came back and said it was a

pseudotumor. Talk about relief, we finally found treatment to stop

the headpain, I was jumping for joy. Until I had asked her if she

had read the 2 spinal taps and she said no. My jaw dropped and the

next thing out of my mouth was, how in the hell can you diagnose a

psuedotumor without reading the spinal taps. She couldn't run out of

the room fast enough and I couldn't get my wife out of that hospital

any faster than I had. But they still charged me.

At this time her temples would swell and discolor. I could see this

and finally one of the doctors observed this and put it in their

report. One doctor said this was normal. What I felt like saying was

the blood running from your nose from blunt trauma is also normal.

What a jerk. The lymph nodes in the back of her neck I could feel

were bigger than half dollars. These so called headaches/headpains

if you will, were like in 3 different stages. These are her

descriptions:

1. A tight band feeling across the forehead, like it was in a vice.

2. The side of her head felt like someone was slamming it in between

a door and door jam.

3. Stabbing pain, like someone stabbing with an ice pick or knife,

normally this pain was the top of the head, but not always.

These would become so severe they would bring her to her knees and

all I could do was rub her back. Thank God they are not that bad

anymore. Other symptoms, alot of pain in the temple areas, pressure

behind the eyeballs, alot of pain and pressure at the base of the

skull, complete right side facial numbness, hot spots on the head,

to where I could feel them, and after washing her hair, her hair

dries in these areas first. There are several other symptoms that I

don't care to mention cause I don't like putting words in peoples

mouths. If anybody would like to speak to me about this more I would

be happy to call you.

About this time is when the strokelike episodes started. The first

couple were the most severe, lasting up to 7 hours and being rushed

to the hospital by ambulance. These mimic'd a stroke, all the

symptoms of.

She had been on just about every type of migrane medication,

including some powerful pain meds administered by IV and they didn't

even touch the pain, but they made her goofy enough to get some

sleep. Morphine wouldn't even touch them.

From what I have been told by professionals and doctors, that these

headpains are not vascular. That's why medication will not work.

They are caused by toxins, MOLD and there is no doubt in my mind

today it is anything but. She has been out of that environment since

2000, but because of the damage and the toxin load this is why they

still occur. We had been told by the doctor that it did effect the

sheaths and we already had the diagnosis of brain damage, but she is

also for many years now experiencing the ms systems. So in my mind

the only way to try and prevent the severity of these headpains is

to continue to detox and lessen exposures, both of which she has

done and this is why she is pretty much housebound.

Hope this helps,

KC

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> ,

>

> Have you tried PIRACETAM for your wife's headaches? Piracetam is a

> neuroprotective supplement that is affordable and which has 40

years of

> supporting evidence behind its use in neuroprotection.

>

>

> If you combine piracetam with choline and vitamin B5 it also

improves (long

> term) memory. This isn't just me talking, the science is there, 40

years of

> it.

>

> There is a list at

>

> http://www.he.net/~altonweb/cs/downsyndrome/index.htm?

page=piraceso.html

>

> of places where you can buy piracetam and considering the

incredible relief

> it brought me when I was getting those headaches I would strongly

urge you

> to check it out. Its cheap.

>

> But you ALSO need to consider the possibility that whatever is

making her

> have these headaches is NOT MOLD, it might be a brain tumor or

something

> like that. If you have not already, she needs to have a

neurologist look at

> the situation and she should get a brain scan to rule out possible

other

> causes.. This can be expensive but don't scrimp on this!

>

> if you have already done all this disregard this letter but I had

to write

> it because I went through this myself and it turned out to be

stachy... bad,

> toxic stachy.. and asp/pen...

>

> Headaches for most of us are not normal. For me, it is one of the

symptoms

> of mold exposure.. but not for everybody..sometimes it is cancer or

> pre-stroke or similar...

>

> Again, sorry to be repetitive/redundant if so..

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I can't agree with you more and you kind of bring up a sore spot

with me. I mentioned some of Sharon's symptoms to my parents and

their response is, I've got that too, no big deal. But I'm sure it's

not the same as Sharon's. Next thing out of their mouth, I'm 75

years old and they are still in better condition that my wife, who

is in her early 50's. grrrr. They just don't know how to enjoy

what they have and to live life instead they look for excuses not

too.

KC

> > >

> > > KC (Jane & LiveSimply): In understanding the reason micro

fungi

> do what

> > > they do, the simplest " on/off switch " reason is that they are

> primary

> > > " decomposers. " Decomposers are scavengers in that they will

feed

> on nearly

> > > anything as their " prey " , including animals and humans. Micro

> fungi are not

> > > " plant life " and are far removed from plants physically,

> genetically,

> > > structureally, and in how they create and feed of the

nutrients

> that they

> > > grow from. They are not mobile but stationary and this is why

> they often are

> > > mistaken for plant life. The very reason they are able to

elude

> the human

> > > immune system is that they have a very similar appearance with

> our human

> > > immune cells. I personally refer to our human immune system as

> our " human

> > > fungal system " because as micro fungi cells are generated from

> basic

> > > chemical structure so are the human immune cells. In

addressing

> their prey,

> > > micro fungi cells are very similar to human immune system

cells,

> or vice

> > > versa. In escaping detection within the human body by the

immune

> system

> > > cells, they are able to deceive our immune cells in a process

> called

> > > " molecular mimicry. " This same process is why micro fungi are

> extremely

> > > difficult to detect in our blood serum as they take on the

> appearance of

> > > human blood cells cells in traveling through the human blood

> stream to where

> > > they need to go to do what they need to do. The micro fungi

cell

> appears

> > > very much like a blood cell except for one critical fact; they

> are much

> > > smaller than human blood cells. It is interesting to note,

that

> micro fungi

> > > are closer to humans than their counterpart " primary

decomposers "

> bacteria.

> > > In fact, fungi cells have a defined " nucleus " , whereas

bacteria

> do not have

> > > a nucleus. The micro fungi are allowed by our molecular system

to

> penetrate

> > > further into the human body because the human immune cells

> usually do not

> > > recognize them as pathogens (disease causing) as some Gram-

> Negative and

> > > Gram-Positive bacteria are immediately recognized. Molds

invade

> very subtly

> > > and absorb chemically as pathogens integrating with human

cells

> over

> > > sometimes months and years to invade and mutate cells, as

opposed

> to

> > > bacteria and viruses which are often immediately recognized

> before they can

> > > do harm. In this way micro fungi are able to adapt and

eventually

> gain

> > > strength in numbers (or clusters) as " colonies. " When symptoms

> arise it

> > > often signals to the human body cells that micro fungi are

> decomposing or

> > > attempting to decompose by first feeding off from what their

> human host is

> > > feeding on (i.e., sugars, starches, proteins, etc.) and then

> instead of

> > > being content, the micro fungi begin " opportunistically " to

> release

> > > mycotoxins (poisons) that continuously attack the human cell

> genetic

> > > structure. This begins in a process of friction, followed by

> inflammation as

> > > weakened human cell chemistry clashes and eventually gives way

to

> mycotoxin

> > > chemistry in challenging and changing DNA/RNA (genetic) amino

> acid string

> > > bases. This process leads to diseases because both human

cells,

> micro fungi

> > > cells, bacterial cells, and other live organism cells that

> compose the human

> > > body also become ill along the way. This is a two-billion year

> old microbial

> > > (live cell) war that has been going on internally called " the

> Carbon Cycle "

> > > or " dust-to-dust " Think about it, a person usually does not

die

> suddenly

> > > naturally, but slowly over years (such as in cancers, MS,

> Parkinson's, etc.)

> > > in a decomposing process in which the organs begin to fail.

> Normally it is

> > > not one organ that fails but a cascade of failures before

death.

> However,

> > > this process has a very fast nature to it as well, such as

> observed with

> > > Mucormycosis. It also is not often a challenge of one micro

> fungal species

> > > but several giving off many types of mycotoxins in the

process,

> unlike

> > > bacteria that usually is an attack by one bacterial species.

This

> is why it

> > > is extremely difficult to pinpoint " dose-response " in the

> formation of

> > > fungal exposures and the disease process.

> > >

> > > Hope this helps.

> > >

> > > God Bless you and your continuing progress toward improved

health.

> > >

> > > Doug Haney

> > > EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.

> > > Email: _Haney52@ <_Haney52%40hotmail.com>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Doug,

You are one of the most educated professionals I have ever come

across that can describe the process on how micro fungi mimic our

immune system in the manner that they do and how they can become so

destructive at the same time. You're knowledge is much appreciated

and hopefully in the near future the rest of our medical community

will catch on.

I don't normally do this, but I've known Doug now for about 6 or 7

years and he is the only one in the very beginning that answered

many of my questions that no one else could. Why my wife seemed to

be deteriorating right before me and my children and no one else

could give me a reason. I may not have liked the answers he gave me,

because the majority of the time they were very upsetting, but I

knew he was speaking the truth, as accurately as possible. I feel

that if it wasn't for Doug in the beginning helping us through this

step by step and the reason for, my wife would not be here today.

Doug, I thank you for that, because she is still here.

I highly recommend for anyone who wants to learn more about

pathogenic micro fungi to contact Doug and order his book, Toxic

Mold, Toxic Enemy. It has outstanding information. At the same time

I would also recommend 2 of our other professionals on this board,

their books, by Jeff May and Carl Grimes. I thank you all for your

contributions and your willingness, voluntarily to address many of

us on this board that need your help.

Thank you all,

KC

>

> KC (Jane & LiveSimply): In understanding the reason micro fungi do

what they do, the simplest " on/off switch " reason is that they are

primary " decomposers. " Decomposers are scavengers in that they will

feed on nearly anything as their " prey " , including animals and

humans. Micro fungi are not " plant life " and are far removed from

plants physically, genetically, structureally, and in how they

create and feed of the nutrients that they grow from. They are not

mobile but stationary and this is why they often are mistaken for

plant life. The very reason they are able to elude the human immune

system is that they have a very similar appearance with our human

immune cells. I personally refer to our human immune system as

our " human fungal system " because as micro fungi cells are generated

from basic chemical structure so are the human immune cells. In

addressing their prey, micro fungi cells are very similar to human

immune system cells, or vice versa. In escaping detection within the

human body by the immune system cells, they are able to deceive our

immune cells in a process called " molecular mimicry. " This same

process is why micro fungi are extremely difficult to detect in our

blood serum as they take on the appearance of human blood cells

cells in traveling through the human blood stream to where they need

to go to do what they need to do. The micro fungi cell appears very

much like a blood cell except for one critical fact; they are much

smaller than human blood cells. It is interesting to note, that

micro fungi are closer to humans than their counterpart " primary

decomposers " bacteria. In fact, fungi cells have a

defined " nucleus " , whereas bacteria do not have a nucleus. The micro

fungi are allowed by our molecular system to penetrate further into

the human body because the human immune cells usually do not

recognize them as pathogens (disease causing) as some Gram-Negative

and Gram-Positive bacteria are immediately recognized. Molds invade

very subtly and absorb chemically as pathogens integrating with

human cells over sometimes months and years to invade and mutate

cells, as opposed to bacteria and viruses which are often

immediately recognized before they can do harm. In this way micro

fungi are able to adapt and eventually gain strength in numbers (or

clusters) as " colonies. " When symptoms arise it often signals to the

human body cells that micro fungi are decomposing or attempting to

decompose by first feeding off from what their human host is feeding

on (i.e., sugars, starches, proteins, etc.) and then instead of

being content, the micro fungi begin " opportunistically " to release

mycotoxins (poisons) that continuously attack the human cell genetic

structure. This begins in a process of friction, followed by

inflammation as weakened human cell chemistry clashes and eventually

gives way to mycotoxin chemistry in challenging and changing DNA/RNA

(genetic) amino acid string bases. This process leads to diseases

because both human cells, micro fungi cells, bacterial cells, and

other live organism cells that compose the human body also become

ill along the way. This is a two-billion year old microbial (live

cell) war that has been going on internally called " the Carbon

Cycle " or " dust-to-dust " Think about it, a person usually does not

die suddenly naturally, but slowly over years (such as in cancers,

MS, Parkinson's, etc.) in a decomposing process in which the organs

begin to fail. Normally it is not one organ that fails but a cascade

of failures before death. However, this process has a very fast

nature to it as well, such as observed with Mucormycosis. It also is

not often a challenge of one micro fungal species but several giving

off many types of mycotoxins in the process, unlike bacteria that

usually is an attack by one bacterial species. This is why it is

extremely difficult to pinpoint " dose-response " in the formation of

fungal exposures and the disease process.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> God Bless you and your continuing progress toward improved health.

>

> Doug Haney

> EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.

> Email: _Haney52@...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Darlene,

I'm very sorry to hear that, as far as your diagnosis. But yet I

want to say I'm happy that the doctor realized that something was

wrong. Talk about a double edged sword. This is the first step and

hopefully he will continue to investigate.

Take care,

KC

Sunday, January 14, 2007Costs to mend

> courthouse cause concernChattanooga Times Free Press Sat, 13 Jan

> 2007 10:10 PM PSTMoney spent on new air conditioning, work to rid

> mold questionedBy Ian Berry Staff Writer With at least $6.2

million

> spent on renovations to the Hamilton County Courthouse since

2001,

> the county continues to fight mold infiltrating the historic

> building.The renovations, records show, have included more than

> $500,000 to waterproof a leaky foundation thought to be the cause

of

> the building's continuing mold problems. Despite that foundation

> work, moisture and mold persist on the first floor, where

offices,

> hallways and the entrance onto Walnut Street have been inspected

and

> cleaned of mold in recent weeks. " Throwing good money after bad "

is

> how some Hamilton County officials recently have described

expenses

> for some of the county's older buildings, including the

> courthouse.One of those officials, County Commissioner Fred

> Skillern, said he supported the latest courthouse work, but may

have

> felt differently " if I knew then what I knew now. " The courthouse

> renovations are " almost a nightmare, " Commission Chairman Larry

> Henry said.NO TURNING BACK Built in 1912, the courthouse is in

the

> midst of " Phase V " renovations intended in part to address mold

> problems in several locations, including offices for the county

> clerk, register of deeds and clerk and master.In addition to the

> $6.2 million approved since 2001, the county included $3 million

for

> further renovations in the $125 million bond issue approved last

> year.There also have been continuing mold problems on the third

> floor, where Clerk and Master Lee Akers, the only official to

> complain publicly about the mold, has set up portable air

purifiers.

> Mr. Akers said he wonders if mold is to blame for his chronic

> obstructive pulmonary disease, or his employees' frequent bouts

of

> pneumonia.While acknowledging the problems, commissioners also

say

> that at this point there's no turning back. " From a cost-

> effectiveness standpoint, you really should tear it down and

start

> over, " Commissioner Casavant said. " (But) we've put a lot

of

> money into the courthouse during the past 10 years. " County Mayor

> Claude Ramsey said a new courthouse would cost " many times what

> we've spent on this beautiful facility, which is a great asset to

> the community. " The city is in the midst of a $12 million

renovation

> to its City Hall. FROM THE GROUND UP Mr. Ramsey said the first

phase

> of the renovations to address the courthouse foundation was

intended

> to stop moisture. The plan all along, he said, was to bring the

> building up to standard and then address the areas of mold. " It

> certainly helped a great deal, " he said of the foundation

work.The

> health and well-being of county employees is his top concern, Mr.

> Ramsey said. He noted his office has had virtually no renovations

> since he took office in 1994. " I work here every day, " Mr. Ramsey

> said.Even if the county had been inclined to build a new

facility,

> finding a location would have been a problem.Curtis said if

> the county could have looked into " a crystal ball " 10 years ago,

it

> would have looked at building a new joint city-county facility,

> similar to what exists in Knoxville. A potential location could

have

> been where the new County Election Commission Building opened on

> Amnicola Highway. " It's too late for that, " Mr. said.BEYOND

THE

> COURTHOUSE Both Dr. Casavant and Mr. Skillern said the county

should

> think about a building program to replace some of the other old

> county facilities.Earlier this month, Dr. Casavant asked county

> officials to conduct an audit of all the county's facilities. He

> said he was taken aback to learn that an entire floor of the

> Hamilton County-Chattanooga Courts Building was being used for

> parking, and he said the cost of a new heating, ventilation and

air

> conditioning system at the Newell Tower on East Seventh Street,

> which houses other county offices, also raised questions.That

> building's HVAC system will cost more than $700,000. The county

> received only one bid on the project, after three attempts to

> solicit bids.Dr. Casavant pointed out that, unlike the

courthouse,

> Newell Tower is not historic. " At what point do you decide it

would

> be better to issue some bonds and build a new building and have

it

> pay off? " he said.County Finance Director Louis

acknowledged

> the concern but said all of the offices in Newell Tower, for

> instance, need to be downtown. " We frankly right now don't have

> another location to put a building such as this, " Mr.

> said. " We've proven that new buildings are most cost-efficient

than

> older buildings, but quite frankly that's how we've acquired

> additional space in the downtown campus, by purchasing old

> buildings. " Mr. Ramsey has in response to Dr. Casavant's request

> appointed a three-person committee to take an inventory of all

> county buildings including the county's maintenance director,

> engineer and real property manager.He said taking inventory of

the

> buildings will be helpful, although any new county buildings

would

> be far in the future. " We're building schools right now, " Mr.

Ramsey

> said. " Somewhere there ought to be a longrange plan. But as of

now,

> we continue to concentrate on the school building program under

> way. " E-mail Ian Berry at iberry@ RENOVATION OUTLAYS The Hamilton

> County Commission has approved the following expenditures to

> renovate these buildings since 2000: Hamilton County Courthouse —

> $6.2 million Heating/ventilation/ air conditioning repairs —

$1.53

> million Hamilton County Justice Building (includes jail) — $1.5

> million Newell Towers — $903,984 MLK Building — 209,000 Mayfield

> Annex — 193,872 Hamilton County-Chattanooga Courts Building:

> $159,884 Source: Hamilton County documents -----------------------

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[Guest guest]

KC when you talk about Sharon's head pain has she had cat scans of

the sinuses, etc. I have migranes many times but when I first got

ill I had such severe pain and had been on alot of meds and I finally

told the doctor to do a cat scan and all of my sinuses were infected

and I had polyps in between my eyes. I can say that surgery did

relieve a lot of the pain even though recovery was difficult. I

vomited for about 3 weeks but I have never been stuffy since. I do

get alot of congestion in my head and lungs but the nose is actually

too clear. One problem I have no allergy type stuff but once in a

while when my sinuses drain I get a chunk of mucus (nasty).

Sometimes my nose is so clear but I can tell there is something in my

head and I rub it or tilt it a different position and I get thick

mucus in a glob type thing. It sounds gross but I wanted to know if

anyone has that.

Sunday, January 14, 2007Costs to mend

> > courthouse cause concernChattanooga Times Free Press Sat, 13 Jan

> > 2007 10:10 PM PSTMoney spent on new air conditioning, work to

rid

> > mold questionedBy Ian Berry Staff Writer With at least $6.2

> million

> > spent on renovations to the Hamilton County Courthouse since

> 2001,

> > the county continues to fight mold infiltrating the historic

> > building.The renovations, records show, have included more than

> > $500,000 to waterproof a leaky foundation thought to be the

cause

> of

> > the building's continuing mold problems. Despite that foundation

> > work, moisture and mold persist on the first floor, where

> offices,

> > hallways and the entrance onto Walnut Street have been inspected

> and

> > cleaned of mold in recent weeks. " Throwing good money after bad "

> is

> > how some Hamilton County officials recently have described

> expenses

> > for some of the county's older buildings, including the

> > courthouse.One of those officials, County Commissioner Fred

> > Skillern, said he supported the latest courthouse work, but may

> have

> > felt differently " if I knew then what I knew now. " The

courthouse

> > renovations are " almost a nightmare, " Commission Chairman Larry

> > Henry said.NO TURNING BACK Built in 1912, the courthouse is in

> the

> > midst of " Phase V " renovations intended in part to address mold

> > problems in several locations, including offices for the county

> > clerk, register of deeds and clerk and master.In addition to the

> > $6.2 million approved since 2001, the county included $3 million

> for

> > further renovations in the $125 million bond issue approved last

> > year.There also have been continuing mold problems on the third

> > floor, where Clerk and Master Lee Akers, the only official to

> > complain publicly about the mold, has set up portable air

> purifiers.

> > Mr. Akers said he wonders if mold is to blame for his chronic

> > obstructive pulmonary disease, or his employees' frequent bouts

> of

> > pneumonia.While acknowledging the problems, commissioners also

> say

> > that at this point there's no turning back. " From a cost-

> > effectiveness standpoint, you really should tear it down and

> start

> > over, " Commissioner Casavant said. " (But) we've put a

lot

> of

> > money into the courthouse during the past 10 years. " County Mayor

> > Claude Ramsey said a new courthouse would cost " many times what

> > we've spent on this beautiful facility, which is a great asset

to

> > the community. " The city is in the midst of a $12 million

> renovation

> > to its City Hall. FROM THE GROUND UP Mr. Ramsey said the first

> phase

> > of the renovations to address the courthouse foundation was

> intended

> > to stop moisture. The plan all along, he said, was to bring the

> > building up to standard and then address the areas of mold. " It

> > certainly helped a great deal, " he said of the foundation

> work.The

> > health and well-being of county employees is his top concern,

Mr.

> > Ramsey said. He noted his office has had virtually no

renovations

> > since he took office in 1994. " I work here every day, " Mr.

Ramsey

> > said.Even if the county had been inclined to build a new

> facility,

> > finding a location would have been a problem.Curtis said

if

> > the county could have looked into " a crystal ball " 10 years ago,

> it

> > would have looked at building a new joint city-county facility,

> > similar to what exists in Knoxville. A potential location could

> have

> > been where the new County Election Commission Building opened on

> > Amnicola Highway. " It's too late for that, " Mr. said.BEYOND

> THE

> > COURTHOUSE Both Dr. Casavant and Mr. Skillern said the county

> should

> > think about a building program to replace some of the other old

> > county facilities.Earlier this month, Dr. Casavant asked county

> > officials to conduct an audit of all the county's facilities. He

> > said he was taken aback to learn that an entire floor of the

> > Hamilton County-Chattanooga Courts Building was being used for

> > parking, and he said the cost of a new heating, ventilation and

> air

> > conditioning system at the Newell Tower on East Seventh Street,

> > which houses other county offices, also raised questions.That

> > building's HVAC system will cost more than $700,000. The county

> > received only one bid on the project, after three attempts to

> > solicit bids.Dr. Casavant pointed out that, unlike the

> courthouse,

> > Newell Tower is not historic. " At what point do you decide it

> would

> > be better to issue some bonds and build a new building and have

> it

> > pay off? " he said.County Finance Director Louis

> acknowledged

> > the concern but said all of the offices in Newell Tower, for

> > instance, need to be downtown. " We frankly right now don't have

> > another location to put a building such as this, " Mr.

> > said. " We've proven that new buildings are most cost-efficient

> than

> > older buildings, but quite frankly that's how we've acquired

> > additional space in the downtown campus, by purchasing old

> > buildings. " Mr. Ramsey has in response to Dr. Casavant's request

> > appointed a three-person committee to take an inventory of all

> > county buildings including the county's maintenance director,

> > engineer and real property manager.He said taking inventory of

> the

> > buildings will be helpful, although any new county buildings

> would

> > be far in the future. " We're building schools right now, " Mr.

> Ramsey

> > said. " Somewhere there ought to be a longrange plan. But as of

> now,

> > we continue to concentrate on the school building program under

> > way. " E-mail Ian Berry at iberry@ RENOVATION OUTLAYS The Hamilton

> > County Commission has approved the following expenditures to

> > renovate these buildings since 2000: Hamilton County Courthouse —

> > $6.2 million Heating/ventilation/ air conditioning repairs —

> $1.53

> > million Hamilton County Justice Building (includes jail) — $1.5

> > million Newell Towers — $903,984 MLK Building — 209,000 Mayfield

> > Annex — 193,872 Hamilton County-Chattanooga Courts Building:

> > $159,884 Source: Hamilton County documents ----------------------

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Doug also helped me understand my bloodwork over the phone about 6 or

7 years ago. I was very scared. Even Milanda Ballard was very

helpful to me several times on the phone during that time, as well as

Dr. Strauss at Texas Tech.

> >

> > KC (Jane & LiveSimply): In understanding the reason micro fungi

do

> what they do, the simplest " on/off switch " reason is that they are

> primary " decomposers. " Decomposers are scavengers in that they

will

> feed on nearly anything as their " prey " , including animals and

> humans. Micro fungi are not " plant life " and are far removed from

> plants physically, genetically, structureally, and in how they

> create and feed of the nutrients that they grow from. They are not

> mobile but stationary and this is why they often are mistaken for

> plant life. The very reason they are able to elude the human immune

> system is that they have a very similar appearance with our human

> immune cells. I personally refer to our human immune system as

> our " human fungal system " because as micro fungi cells are

generated

> from basic chemical structure so are the human immune cells. In

> addressing their prey, micro fungi cells are very similar to human

> immune system cells, or vice versa. In escaping detection within

the

> human body by the immune system cells, they are able to deceive our

> immune cells in a process called " molecular mimicry. " This same

> process is why micro fungi are extremely difficult to detect in our

> blood serum as they take on the appearance of human blood cells

> cells in traveling through the human blood stream to where they

need

> to go to do what they need to do. The micro fungi cell appears very

> much like a blood cell except for one critical fact; they are much

> smaller than human blood cells. It is interesting to note, that

> micro fungi are closer to humans than their counterpart " primary

> decomposers " bacteria. In fact, fungi cells have a

> defined " nucleus " , whereas bacteria do not have a nucleus. The

micro

> fungi are allowed by our molecular system to penetrate further into

> the human body because the human immune cells usually do not

> recognize them as pathogens (disease causing) as some Gram-Negative

> and Gram-Positive bacteria are immediately recognized. Molds invade

> very subtly and absorb chemically as pathogens integrating with

> human cells over sometimes months and years to invade and mutate

> cells, as opposed to bacteria and viruses which are often

> immediately recognized before they can do harm. In this way micro

> fungi are able to adapt and eventually gain strength in numbers (or

> clusters) as " colonies. " When symptoms arise it often signals to

the

> human body cells that micro fungi are decomposing or attempting to

> decompose by first feeding off from what their human host is

feeding

> on (i.e., sugars, starches, proteins, etc.) and then instead of

> being content, the micro fungi begin " opportunistically " to release

> mycotoxins (poisons) that continuously attack the human cell

genetic

> structure. This begins in a process of friction, followed by

> inflammation as weakened human cell chemistry clashes and

eventually

> gives way to mycotoxin chemistry in challenging and changing

DNA/RNA

> (genetic) amino acid string bases. This process leads to diseases

> because both human cells, micro fungi cells, bacterial cells, and

> other live organism cells that compose the human body also become

> ill along the way. This is a two-billion year old microbial (live

> cell) war that has been going on internally called " the Carbon

> Cycle " or " dust-to-dust " Think about it, a person usually does not

> die suddenly naturally, but slowly over years (such as in cancers,

> MS, Parkinson's, etc.) in a decomposing process in which the organs

> begin to fail. Normally it is not one organ that fails but a

cascade

> of failures before death. However, this process has a very fast

> nature to it as well, such as observed with Mucormycosis. It also

is

> not often a challenge of one micro fungal species but several

giving

> off many types of mycotoxins in the process, unlike bacteria that

> usually is an attack by one bacterial species. This is why it is

> extremely difficult to pinpoint " dose-response " in the formation of

> fungal exposures and the disease process.

> >

> > Hope this helps.

> >

> > God Bless you and your continuing progress toward improved

health.

> >

> > Doug Haney

> > EnviroHealth Research & Consulting, Inc.

> > Email: _Haney52@

> >

> >

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