Re: had the phone consulation today

[Guest guest]

Rhonda

I stayed in amoldy basement and did for eight years. I was pulling in 50,000

a year. I waited too long. Four years later out of that place I am still

battling this illness. I am housebound with air cleaners. Please dont wait too

long.

Janet

[Guest guest]

Rhonda,

I think you may be misinterpeting your doctor. I tip my hat off to

any doctor that admits that they don't know enough about a condition

and suggests (and in your case, repeatedly) to go see a doctor that

is very familiar with diagnosing and treating. As far as him trying

to cover his butt, maybe. But it sounds like he is trying to cover

yours. What it really sounds like is that you are putting down a

doctor that is trying to help you. Something you rarely ever see.

That's great he gives you the CSM, but that is only part of a

protocol treatment and as long as you are being re-exposed it will

only work to a lesser degree, to fully work you must be out of the

toxic environment.

As far as Dr.Shoemaker not treating you because you are still being

exposed, that line of thought goes for ALL the doctors that have

been dealing with this issue. It is really a waste of your time,

money and their time to try to get you better when every time you

enter the buiding you get re-exposed. Kind of defeats the purpose.

KC

>

> Lasted less than 10 minutes and he said the form would be the same

> just different date which I know this and he said I'm going thru

> those loop holes where the system tries to get you to give up. I

> won't be doing that and hope the form gets to the HR guy

Wednesday.

>

> I called the retirement system today to see if they had received

the

> evauluation I had last week and they said NO, not yet. I'm

totally

> exhausted and get minimal things done around the house and have 8

> animals to care for. I have one friend that helps me by bringing

me

> some things I need for me and animals and nobody else is offering

ay

> assistance.

>

> Doc said today I have an ongoing, chronic illness that isn't going

to

> get any better but I'm hoping once out of that toxic place I can

work

> at getting better. He pushes me to see Dr. Shoemaker b/c my doc

> isn't all that experienced with this disease but recognizes it and

> will prescribe the CSM. I think he is scared he could be legally

> attacked if I go way down hill or that I die. That is why he keeps

> saying " Go to Shoemaker " and writing it over and over and over in

my

> records to save his butt from litigation. I would never do that

to

> him b/c he is giving me CSM. He said mainstream medical docs are

> not helping me so go to Shoemaker. I cannot afford him and not

even

> getting all my paycheck so it's is not even an option and he won't

> treat if you are still in the exposure of what is poisoning you.

The

> most important thing is to GET OUT OF TOXIC WORKPLACE then go from

> there. I hope I'm not too far gone to recover somewhat after not

> breathing that crap anymore. I forgot to ask if the doc I saw

last

> week for the neuropsyche evaluation had called my ENT or requested

my

> records. My ENT did say he didn't know if the phone consultaion

> would hold up legally with refilling out the Dept. of Labor FMLA

> forms without seeing me in person. Anyone know that answer?

Seems

> really with the updated date it would be good and nothing has

changed

> in 3 months and CSM is all he can really do for me besides sinus

> issues.

>

> Rhonda

>

[Guest guest]

Rhonda, please listen to what your body is screaming to you. it

sounds like your getting to a bad point were you may have a hard time

recovering. I hope not but it sounds like it. I know it's hard to

give up a job but your health is so much more important. I was

makeing top scale when I just couldn't make it to work anymore and

like you, I pushed it to the last minute. only difference is that I

had no clue what was happening to me. we work hard and pay taxes, if

we have to get welfare thats what its there for. you can get help to

pay your bills and food. we have to do what we have to do to

servive.let them fire you and draw unemployment. you've got to get

out of there.

> >

> > Lasted less than 10 minutes and he said the form would be the

same

> > just different date which I know this and he said I'm going thru

> > those loop holes where the system tries to get you to give up. I

> > won't be doing that and hope the form gets to the HR guy

> Wednesday.

> >

> > I called the retirement system today to see if they had received

> the

> > evauluation I had last week and they said NO, not yet. I'm

> totally

> > exhausted and get minimal things done around the house and have 8

> > animals to care for. I have one friend that helps me by bringing

> me

> > some things I need for me and animals and nobody else is offering

> ay

> > assistance.

> >

> > Doc said today I have an ongoing, chronic illness that isn't

going

> to

> > get any better but I'm hoping once out of that toxic place I can

> work

> > at getting better. He pushes me to see Dr. Shoemaker b/c my doc

> > isn't all that experienced with this disease but recognizes it

and

> > will prescribe the CSM. I think he is scared he could be legally

> > attacked if I go way down hill or that I die. That is why he

keeps

> > saying " Go to Shoemaker " and writing it over and over and over in

> my

> > records to save his butt from litigation. I would never do that

> to

> > him b/c he is giving me CSM. He said mainstream medical docs

are

> > not helping me so go to Shoemaker. I cannot afford him and not

> even

> > getting all my paycheck so it's is not even an option and he

won't

> > treat if you are still in the exposure of what is poisoning you.

> The

> > most important thing is to GET OUT OF TOXIC WORKPLACE then go

from

> > there. I hope I'm not too far gone to recover somewhat after not

> > breathing that crap anymore. I forgot to ask if the doc I saw

> last

> > week for the neuropsyche evaluation had called my ENT or

requested

> my

> > records. My ENT did say he didn't know if the phone consultaion

> > would hold up legally with refilling out the Dept. of Labor FMLA

> > forms without seeing me in person. Anyone know that answer?

> Seems

> > really with the updated date it would be good and nothing has

> changed

> > in 3 months and CSM is all he can really do for me besides sinus

> > issues.

> >

> > Rhonda

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Rhonda, KC--I totally have to agree with KC on this. My doctor told me the same

thing. As long as I stay in the toxic environment, I will not get better that

the symptoms will lighten up a little. Believe me, I am trying to find a safe

home, but am having difficutly doing so even filling out housing emergency

applications due to my health. They want the present landlord to say the

apartment I am living in is not safe, he is not going to do that. That would be

admitting that my experts were right all the time, and he wasn't. Best to you

Rhonda.

Darlene

tigerpaw2c <tigerpaw2c@...> wrote:

Rhonda,

I think you may be misinterpeting your doctor. I tip my hat off to

any doctor that admits that they don't know enough about a condition

and suggests (and in your case, repeatedly) to go see a doctor that

is very familiar with diagnosing and treating. As far as him trying

to cover his butt, maybe. But it sounds like he is trying to cover

yours. What it really sounds like is that you are putting down a

doctor that is trying to help you. Something you rarely ever see.

That's great he gives you the CSM, but that is only part of a

protocol treatment and as long as you are being re-exposed it will

only work to a lesser degree, to fully work you must be out of the

toxic environment.

As far as Dr.Shoemaker not treating you because you are still being

exposed, that line of thought goes for ALL the doctors that have

been dealing with this issue. It is really a waste of your time,

money and their time to try to get you better when every time you

enter the buiding you get re-exposed. Kind of defeats the purpose.

KC

>

> Lasted less than 10 minutes and he said the form would be the same

> just different date which I know this and he said I'm going thru

> those loop holes where the system tries to get you to give up. I

> won't be doing that and hope the form gets to the HR guy

Wednesday.

>

> I called the retirement system today to see if they had received

the

> evauluation I had last week and they said NO, not yet. I'm

totally

> exhausted and get minimal things done around the house and have 8

> animals to care for. I have one friend that helps me by bringing

me

> some things I need for me and animals and nobody else is offering

ay

> assistance.

>

> Doc said today I have an ongoing, chronic illness that isn't going

to

> get any better but I'm hoping once out of that toxic place I can

work

> at getting better. He pushes me to see Dr. Shoemaker b/c my doc

> isn't all that experienced with this disease but recognizes it and

> will prescribe the CSM. I think he is scared he could be legally

> attacked if I go way down hill or that I die. That is why he keeps

> saying " Go to Shoemaker " and writing it over and over and over in

my

> records to save his butt from litigation. I would never do that

to

> him b/c he is giving me CSM. He said mainstream medical docs are

> not helping me so go to Shoemaker. I cannot afford him and not

even

> getting all my paycheck so it's is not even an option and he won't

> treat if you are still in the exposure of what is poisoning you.

The

> most important thing is to GET OUT OF TOXIC WORKPLACE then go from

> there. I hope I'm not too far gone to recover somewhat after not

> breathing that crap anymore. I forgot to ask if the doc I saw

last

> week for the neuropsyche evaluation had called my ENT or requested

my

> records. My ENT did say he didn't know if the phone consultaion

> would hold up legally with refilling out the Dept. of Labor FMLA

> forms without seeing me in person. Anyone know that answer?

Seems

> really with the updated date it would be good and nothing has

changed

> in 3 months and CSM is all he can really do for me besides sinus

> issues.

>

> Rhonda

>

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KC, I agree with your post 100% but think Dr Shoemaker would treat

patient but would warn them that treatment will not heal them, but may

just help them from getting much worse, if they are still being

exposed.

--- In , " tigerpaw2c " <tigerpaw2c@...>

wrote:

>

> Rhonda,

>

> I think you may be misinterpeting your doctor. I tip my hat off to

> any doctor that admits that they don't know enough about a condition

> and suggests (and in your case, repeatedly) to go see a doctor that

> is very familiar with diagnosing and treating.

[Guest guest]

My doctor is at that point with me as well. I stay in one room with 2 filters

going but you all say even the 500 to 600 dollar air filters don't do much good.

when I leave the filtered area, I smell mold really bad.

Darlene <darlenesb2000@...> wrote: Rhonda, KC--I totally have to

agree with KC on this. My doctor told me the same thing. As long as I stay in

the toxic environment, I will not get better that the symptoms will lighten up a

little. Believe me, I am trying to find a safe home, but am having difficutly

doing so even filling out housing emergency applications due to my health. They

want the present landlord to say the apartment I am living in is not safe, he is

not going to do that. That would be admitting that my experts were right all the

time, and he wasn't. Best to you Rhonda.

Darlene

tigerpaw2c <tigerpaw2c@...> wrote: Rhonda,

I think you may be misinterpeting your doctor. I tip my hat off to

any doctor that admits that they don't know enough about a condition

and suggests (and in your case, repeatedly) to go see a doctor that

is very familiar with diagnosing and treating. As far as him trying

to cover his butt, maybe. But it sounds like he is trying to cover

yours. What it really sounds like is that you are putting down a

doctor that is trying to help you. Something you rarely ever see.

That's great he gives you the CSM, but that is only part of a

protocol treatment and as long as you are being re-exposed it will

only work to a lesser degree, to fully work you must be out of the

toxic environment.

As far as Dr.Shoemaker not treating you because you are still being

exposed, that line of thought goes for ALL the doctors that have

been dealing with this issue. It is really a waste of your time,

money and their time to try to get you better when every time you

enter the buiding you get re-exposed. Kind of defeats the purpose.

KC

>

> Lasted less than 10 minutes and he said the form would be the same

> just different date which I know this and he said I'm going thru

> those loop holes where the system tries to get you to give up. I

> won't be doing that and hope the form gets to the HR guy

Wednesday.

>

> I called the retirement system today to see if they had received

the

> evauluation I had last week and they said NO, not yet. I'm

totally

> exhausted and get minimal things done around the house and have 8

> animals to care for. I have one friend that helps me by bringing

me

> some things I need for me and animals and nobody else is offering

ay

> assistance.

>

> Doc said today I have an ongoing, chronic illness that isn't going

to

> get any better but I'm hoping once out of that toxic place I can

work

> at getting better. He pushes me to see Dr. Shoemaker b/c my doc

> isn't all that experienced with this disease but recognizes it and

> will prescribe the CSM. I think he is scared he could be legally

> attacked if I go way down hill or that I die. That is why he keeps

> saying " Go to Shoemaker " and writing it over and over and over in

my

> records to save his butt from litigation. I would never do that

to

> him b/c he is giving me CSM. He said mainstream medical docs are

> not helping me so go to Shoemaker. I cannot afford him and not

even

> getting all my paycheck so it's is not even an option and he won't

> treat if you are still in the exposure of what is poisoning you.

The

> most important thing is to GET OUT OF TOXIC WORKPLACE then go from

> there. I hope I'm not too far gone to recover somewhat after not

> breathing that crap anymore. I forgot to ask if the doc I saw

last

> week for the neuropsyche evaluation had called my ENT or requested

my

> records. My ENT did say he didn't know if the phone consultaion

> would hold up legally with refilling out the Dept. of Labor FMLA

> forms without seeing me in person. Anyone know that answer?

Seems

> really with the updated date it would be good and nothing has

changed

> in 3 months and CSM is all he can really do for me besides sinus

> issues.

>

> Rhonda

>

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Just reading messages today and I have known I need to get out of toxic

workplace ASAP but I have bills and these doctors even tho they get 80%

from insurance want their 20% within two payments OR right then. My

credit is perfect and I do not want it bad. One thing that I can do

Once my salary is lowered from retirement disability is my house

payment is based on income so if lowered, my payment will be lowered

and my salary will be lowered near $10,000. I will drive less so cuts

on gasoline bill and wear on my car that has near 100,000 miles on it

so another will be needed in future. It is the less pay now from no

leave left that will make it hard to pay bills and I can't lower my

house bill until getting the disability and showing proof. I'm not

sure I will even try the social security disability b/c I'm exhausted

from all this. I've missed most of January already and I doubt the HR

people will let me use shared leave if donated to me before the date of

getting the FMLA updated sheet.

I know my doc wants to help me and knows I've been exposed for a long

time with some permanent damage. But when I've told him over 20 times

I can't afford Dr. S, why keep saying it. There is no way I can b/c

Dr. S won't take payments and overcharges are NOT written off out of

state b/c I've checked. I may continue to stay out until approved and

if they deny, I will probably collapse.

My dad ask me to drive to his place today so he could have my oil

changed and then my mom dragged me out to the mall even tho I told her

my energy was low and not feeling so great. Guess she figures she is

in her 70's and can walk 5 laps around the mall where her and my dad do

their exercising so she had me walk. I needed the exercise but my

gosh, the smells in those malls about knocked me over. Malls have no

clue about people allergic or with MCS ETC. and there is one store out

there that must just spritz out perfume all day long. You walk by it

and it will knock you over. My sis said my young nephew always gets a

headache after passing by that store then gets irritable, duh! He

probably already has MCS and she also washes clothes in that stinkiing

Gain I told her she shouldn't use that chemical on her clothes. I did

get some hits from something today but the pins/needles were light

compared to the torture at work and I took my CSM. I can feel it some

just by getting into my cross-contaminated car.

Well, another front is coming that may bring some ice and I've never

seen so many fronts in my life.

Will call and see if HR guy got the FMLA form yet Thursday and I hope

he did and has the shared leave in action. State Medical Bd only

reviews application once a week on Tuesdays so if this goes into Feb.,

not good.

I really think I'm wasting $$ seeing a neuro not educated in toxicology

and going to ask the neurophycologial doc if he can recommend one. I

still would like to know if the almost blacking out feeling is strokes

or seizures or What?? And my mom today said you probably have

neurologia and I said Mold toxins can do neuro damage and she said " If

that is what is causing it " Will they ever get it. I've had mold in

MY FACE at work and home for over 25 years and who knows where else

including their house. As far as waiting too long, think it has

happened but will not know if I can recover until out of that toxic

work place forever. I had gotten better and in Fall 2005 the toxin

overload slammed me with toxins thru my toxic home heat and 2

airscrubbers in my house during remediation and I stayed in house

(stupid!!!!) and then at work things got worse and stirred up. You can

believe I will be fighting this and not giving up.

Rhonda

>

> Rhonda

> I stayed in amoldy basement and did for eight years. I was pulling in

50,000

> a year. I waited too long. Four years later out of that place I am

still

> battling this illness. I am housebound with air cleaners. Please dont

wait too

> long.

> Janet

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

For $500 you can get a house that includs all utilities and TV in the

bubbling metropolis of TorC, NM-for $375 an apt w/everything-tell

that guy in his car to start driving. There are also free movies on

Thursday night.

> >

> > My doctor is at that point with me as well. I stay in one room

with 2

> > filters going but you all say even the 500 to 600 dollar air

filters don't

> > do much good. when I leave the filtered area, I smell mold really

bad.

> >

> >

>