Re: I'm back from The Mental Bootcamp

January 10, 2007

It seems like it would be very easy to do poorly on test

deliberately. I don't get this at all as being part of their test.

You could know right answer and put down wrong one on purpose.

I hope the test gives accurate results for you.

>

> I heard I'd be tired but I'm really exhausted and I had to go there

> on one of my retarded days I call it. Sinus from hell and feeling

> retarded and having some of the neck stuff. I really couldn't even

January 10, 2007

Sometimes in certain situations, albeit not good ones, it is best to not have a

mental disability. In certain states, you may have fewer rights and also a

spouse can more easily divorce you. It is a true pity especially if you are

physically ill.

barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote: It seems like it would be very

easy to do poorly on test

deliberately. I don't get this at all as being part of their test.

You could know right answer and put down wrong one on purpose.

I hope the test gives accurate results for you.

>

> I heard I'd be tired but I'm really exhausted and I had to go there

> on one of my retarded days I call it. Sinus from hell and feeling

> retarded and having some of the neck stuff. I really couldn't even

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January 10, 2007

Yes, and I would not describe yourself as depressed. Depression on

your medical records will make it impossible to get private health

insurance if you ever need to get it. Many people can be physically

handicapped by depression and they may think depression is causing

this. If it were, fine, but since it isn't, I would stay away from

that. Certainly you could say your losses have affected you

emotionally but I wouldn't make much of that as it is a result or

situation, it didn't cause them. Your losses were caused by the

physical limitation, not your emotions, from what you have said.

Jeanine was talking about PTSD, a stress disorder. I wouldn't go

after more than one diagnosis. If you feel stress caused this, then

okay but if you think mold in school caused it, I'd stay away from

describing your mental state as a factor, now or then.

When I first talked to my doctor about not feeling well 3 years ago he

took what I said seriously since I had been going to him for more than

ten years and never had much to say, just give him an update on

migraine medicine I would need for the year as it was mail ordered to

get a quantity discount. I had sleep problem but went to a

somnologist for that, so I had never said anything before and for that

reason I took my complaint very seriously and decided to run a battery

of tests. He needed to leave to get something regarding what he was

going to do and started to go out the door to get it and all of a

sudden stopped and turned and said " ..you don't think you are

depressed do you?? " I said nothing new has gone on to make me

depressed. I don't feel depressed at all and then he said " okay " and

went ahead and arranged for testing. If I had said, yes, well my

neice died or I lost a job or whatever, everything would have come to

a screeching halt.

--- In , jane mosher <janeannmosher@...>

wrote:

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> Sometimes in certain situations, albeit not good ones, it is best to

not have a mental disability. In certain states, you may have fewer

rights and also a spouse can more easily divorce you. It is

January 10, 2007

I agree, especially for those of us with kids. Having this as the

cause of disability could result in losing custody of your children.

B

--- In , jane mosher <janeannmosher@...>

wrote:

>

> Sometimes in certain situations, albeit not good ones, it is best to

not have a mental disability. In certain states, you may have fewer

rights and also a spouse can more easily divorce you. It is a true

pity especially if you are physically ill.

>

January 10, 2007

Barb, ss desides if they want you to see a shrink. haveing depression

does not mean your crazy it means you are depressed,psyco/physi or

both. thier battery of tests are designed to find liers, you

purposely answer wrong and they will know. if you have depression,

they will know, if you show signs of neurological disorders they may

know, or think that but they are not neurologests so you might get

diagnosed with ptsd. they can even recomend another round of tests if

they fell you lied or if tests were in conclusive.

they may even recomend to ss that you see a neurologest if they

think you show signs of brain damage. the batterys of tests they give

have been around for years they may still be flawed to some point as

with all science the more they learn the more they need to update,

but they have been designed to work together to show patterens in

behavior.

I know you don't get the tottal realm of what toxins can do to your

brain, I've researched it quite a bit and have posted some on it. but

you'd have to be a neurotoxicologest just to know what parts of the

brain certain toxins effect and know how that shows itself. a

neurologest can do a spect brain scan and note areas of the brain

effected but if he doesn't have expertise on toxin exposure the

report would be lacking. like some gulf war vets, some may have ptsd

from stress if they don't handle stress well, some may of been

diagnosed with it because of thier exposure to toxins, some both. I

bet not many if any were given a spect brain scan by a quailified

neurotoxicologest or theyed surely have the answers by now. some of

this is just now being reconized.only lately has science started

reconizeing just how tiny particles can penatrate the BBB.

this is also the reason that brain damage caused by mycotoxin

exposure has not been proven in many cases yet. but if you suffer

damage from myco/toxin exposure weather its depression or brain

damage, it is what it is and its just what is is. some of us need

this to be reconized. those that are still able to work should jump

for joy that they did not get affected this way.

do I have brain damage from my exposure? yes, did it affect certain

parts of my brain? yes, does that mean I'm crazy? no. do I have mood

disorders which get worse or activated by toxin exposure? yes. toxins

affect certain parts of the brain not all of it. think god I still

have the incite to do research and as long as i don't suffer from a

toxin hit that sets me back i can do ok. unfornitly, i seem to have

lost organazation skills or i'd be able to put these 2500 files in a

order that i know could prove exactually what has happened to me. its

all there and i know this in my head put i can organize anymore, and

i used to be pretty piticular about that. a nother way i've been

effected is that i have problems remembering how words are spelled.

it's not that i'm stupied, it just doesn't come to me.

other times i can spell that same word just fine. sometimes i mix up

the letters or leave some out. some times i skip whole words. and i

have memory problem that can get very aggervateing, some times i

forget what i just read or did and a hour or to later it comes to me,

so its in there somewhere it just can't allways be recalled when i

need it to be. even more reason why i fell its very important for all

of us to refrain from just putting things on this board based on what

we believe because none of us have all the answers.

many here could learn a lot from those more affected, but those more

affected may a hard time convaying what they know because of brain

damage. anyway, i don't fell this is the place to discuse what you

fell ablout people cheating the system, yes it happens, but there are

a lot of very sick people here that dispertly need medical help that

are not getting it and it may lead to thier death.

and i don't fell that people cheating the system plays a role here

at all. if anything, most here have been underdiagnosed and

misdiagnosed to death. just because you are not that ill and don't

get it, doesn't mean its not real and if you dont have these effects

from exposure i think it would be imposable to fake them..--

> >

> > Sometimes in certain situations, albeit not good ones, it is best

to

> not have a mental disability. In certain states, you may have

fewer

> rights and also a spouse can more easily divorce you. It is

>

January 10, 2007

and if your disabled, your disabled, that means you can't work and no

longer have a means of income. if you are depressed, your depressed,

theres plenty of evidence that toxin exposure does this,

physilogically and psycologically. and if you can no longer work you

need disability to live on, again, count your blessings that you

aren't there. I don't think being able to have private health

insurance in the future is a main consern for people at this point,

maybe thier more worried about a roof over thier heads and something

to eat.

> >

> > Sometimes in certain situations, albeit not good ones, it is best

to

> not have a mental disability. In certain states, you may have

fewer

> rights and also a spouse can more easily divorce you. It is

>

January 10, 2007

,your depression would have to be extreme and only if they

thought you would harm someone would they take your children away, i

don't thing this is even done when it should be because that form of

depression is usually overlooked enless someone depressed is telling

them that they have urges to hurt someone, and unfortunitly those

people rarely tell anyone that they are haveing these thoughts.

usually they just put you on a antidepressant and for mold victims

thats not a good thing to do because a lot of medicines can have

adverce effects when takein with toxin exposure.

> >

> > Sometimes in certain situations, albeit not good ones, it is best

to

> not have a mental disability. In certain states, you may have

fewer

> rights and also a spouse can more easily divorce you. It is a true

> pity especially if you are physically ill.

> >

>

January 10, 2007

Thanks, for the advice I appreciate it. I really don't feel depressed at all

just mad that all this happened!! It wasn't my fault I got sick it was the

school's!! I did my job and loved it then the rug was pulled out from under

me. I'd go back to work in a heartbeat if I could but could never physically be

able to!!

Sue

Yes, and I would not describe yourself as depressed. Depression on

your medical records will make it impossible to get private health

insurance if you ever need to get it. Many people can be physically

handicapped by depression and they may think depression is causing

this. If it were, fine, but since it isn't, I would stay away from

that. Certainly you could say your losses have affected you

January 10, 2007

One of the questions on the True False test asked if I thought

depression was a sign of weakness. Course I said NO. Doc did ask

if I had any depression problems and I said NO and I don't but

getting dang tired of all this junk but didnt tell him that. Chronic

Fatigue stinks! along with migraines and the pain in neck and pressure

and feeling like blacking out ETC.

> > >

> > > Sometimes in certain situations, albeit not good ones, it is

best

> to

> > not have a mental disability. In certain states, you may have

> fewer

> > rights and also a spouse can more easily divorce you. It is

> >

>

January 10, 2007

yep, weather change has been working on me too the last two days. I

went to a psycologest the first time because i had went to a back

doctor and he desided i was depressed and put me on zoloft which i

had some really strange reactions to and quit takeing them. niether

this doctor or i had a clue that mold exposure was causeing this at

the time. so later om my workcomp lawyer told me to go, but ss

probably would have sent me because this doctors report was in my

medical records. at that time it was just anixity and depression, it

was later diagnosed as ptsd the second time i went back to him and

after my exposure in the second house. so you see, my ptsd is partly

because of brain damage and partly depression from physilogical

stress and cns effects, all caused from toxic mold exposure. than

just add on the psycological effects because of haveing chronic

severe back pain and all the other crap i was suffering through and

it can pretty well explain itself. what do you do after years of

misdiagnoses? you research and pray that someday you can get to a

expert on what has really caused your life to be a liveing hell for

many years and you research. you try to educate your loved ones so

they will support you and the cause and who ever will listen.and even

though you cant function up to par you dont give up because if you do

you might as well grawl into bed and stay there.

> > > >

> > > > Sometimes in certain situations, albeit not good ones, it is

> best

> > to

> > > not have a mental disability. In certain states, you may have

> > fewer

> > > rights and also a spouse can more easily divorce you. It is

> > >

> >

>

January 10, 2007

This ss/disabiltiy process sounds so inhumane and cruel. It's enough to have to

live with the illnesses and damage to our bodies, just to get up everyday--and

then what happens--labelled crazy for not being able to function at 100 per

cent. Is there not a label for illness induced depression?

Whenever I am able to go out and see old friends, I find myself to be such a

weakened shadow of myself that I get depressed.

who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: