Re: Re: Laundry Cleaners / JackieBreeze

[Guest guest]

how about this for a luandry idea

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ww.earthcareproduct.com/jm/laundry

[Guest guest]

Anyone ever try the Tide ultrasonic destainer out on mold?

On 1/15/07, barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote:

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> Let us know how you like it if you try it. In particular looking to

> try things that are good at getting out gooey, greasy stuff based on

> idea that mycotoxins are very sticky or similar to an oil film.

> Pathologist said ammonia is good.

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> > how about this for a luandry idea

> > www.earthcareproduct.com/jm/laundry

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[Guest guest]

I don't post here often. I've learned a ton from all of you and your posts.

One thing that I see alot on this group though is people continuing to use

really hazardous and toxic chemicals to clean their clothes, their houses, etc.

Why is this? The thought of putting clorox or ammonia or any other toxins into

my environment really alarms me. There are other things that can be used to

degrease and destink things. Just my two cents.

[] Re: Laundry Cleaners / JackieBreeze

From my understanding Casade has a bleaching agent in it. It is also

acostic (SP). I was once told a person can use a little clorox in the

dishwasher but not ammonia due to the gases it will produce. About

once a week I add a cup of clorox to the wash cycle basically to

disinfect the dishwasher a little more. I have always done this

because my mom did it..just one of those habits I inherited!

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> > Barb,

> > My husband works in a plant that makes gears for Dodge. Husband

> > refuses to wear an apron which we had many of discussions on why

> he

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[Guest guest]

Believe me, we all balance these issues.. none of us like using strong

oxidizers but its the only way.. When you get mold illness, you become

hypersensitive to mold on things. Invisible levels of mold that you can't

smell or see. A very little bit makes you sick and this is because for a

time, you were saturated with it. Inevitably, unless you literally gave

everything you own away or burned it, you have stuff from your old life

which is contaminated to various degrees until it is cleaned. But even then

it may still retain some mold on it. There is also mold in the environment,

everywhere, as the pundits are so fond of pointing out. When you become

hypersensitized from overload, your body senses RELATIVE levels..When you

are first sick, and get out, you clean things and they seem to be better,

but then as you get even better, only by avoiding mold, you often find that

the thing you cleaned before and thought had been cleaned enough is still

reactive for you because your body's natural 'masking' has declined. That

means you are getting still better. The symptoms change. Does that make any

sense to you at all? Thats the way it works, I can't explain it any better

than that.

The best way to understand this without actually getting sick from mold, is

to search for 's TILT (Toxicant Induced Loss of Tolerance)

theory on the net.. Her theory is the very best explanation I have seen for

what happens.. Its stood for a long time and everyone on here and in the

vanguard of treating this seem to agree she is right. Its the only paradigm

that makes sense over time and which explains the hypersensitivity

inflammation, etc. we feel..

[Guest guest]

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It doesn't 'burn' me literally, but it does make my skin feel burning hot

and/or itchy

and I get the inflammation/tiredness/headache thing..

which doesn't just drive me crazy, it makes me crazy..

Is that what you mean?

On 1/17/07, carondeen <kdeanstudios@...> wrote:

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> The problem is, alot of people are trying to get the mycotoxin burn out

> of their clothes, and other things that they want to keep. Not everyone

> on this site understands or suffers from the horrible effects that come

> from being next to items that have become saturated with mycotoxins-I

> promise you, it will drive you insane and cause you to move repeatedly,

> cut off all your hair, and throw everything you own away, and live in a

> tent with borrowed old clothes from your friends-even going to a

> friends house and sitting in a chair that you sat in when you were

> contaminated will burn you and make you sick-this leads people to use

> all sorts of products to try and control, almost allway unsucessfully,

> this monstrouse cross contamination.

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> > I don't post here often. I've learned a ton from all of you and your

> posts. One thing that I see alot on this group though is people

> continuing to use really hazardous and toxic chemicals to clean their

> clothes, their houses, etc. Why is this? The thought of putting

> clorox or ammonia or any other toxins into my environment really alarms

> me. There are other things that can be used to degrease and destink

> things. Just my two cents.

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

I have what I call " freeze/burn " from my butt down, 24/7.....it never leaves.

Neurontin helps some......

[] Re: Laundry Cleaners / JackieBreeze

exactly,

> > >

> > > I don't post here often. I've learned a ton from all of you and

your

> > posts. One thing that I see alot on this group though is people

> > continuing to use really hazardous and toxic chemicals to clean

their

> > clothes, their houses, etc. Why is this? The thought of putting

> > clorox or ammonia or any other toxins into my environment really

alarms

> > me. There are other things that can be used to degrease and

destink

> > things. Just my two cents.

> > >

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