Re: RETRACTION or revised position statement from the ACOEM?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/10/2007 1:33:33 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

quackadillian@... writes:

Does anyone know if there has been any suggestions by their members to

their leadership that they do this?

There has been a suggestion and a request. But I am not aware they have any

intention of retracting or editing either the American College of

Occupational and Environmental Medicine Mold Statement or the American Academy

of

Allergy, Asthma and Immunology Mold Statement.

Although....a little birdie told me that several members of both

organizations are quite upset with their governing bodies!!!

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Thank you Sharon for letting us know that!

We all know that its inevitable, but the question is really just when. If

idiots like me can put two and two together and make

good guesses about what things in their position statements especially need

to change (the oft-repeated assumptions that mycotoxins inhaled or absorbed

are not sufficent enough to cause health effects!) then you know that their

leadership probably knows much more - but SOMETHING is blocking them.

My guess is that its backstage threats or politics. Not science. Nothing

else would explain the FEAR of retribution..

Everyone please lets all try to put our heads together and figure out how to

get some more light shed onto this mess..

Changes in the policies will make it possible to get organizations, etc. to

change and eventually, hopefully make subjecting people to the kinds of

nightmares we all have been through something that they will hesitate to

do.. because they will face a much higher chance of punishment.

THANK YOU!!!

On 1/10/07, snk1955@... <snk1955@...> wrote:

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> In a message dated 1/10/2007 1:33:33 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> quackadillian@... <quackadillian%40gmail.com> writes:

>

> Does anyone know if there has been any suggestions by their members to

> their leadership that they do this?

>

> There has been a suggestion and a request. But I am not aware they have

> any

> intention of retracting or editing either the American College of

> Occupational and Environmental Medicine Mold Statement or the American

> Academy of

> Allergy, Asthma and Immunology Mold Statement.

>

> Although....a little birdie told me that several members of both

> organizations are quite upset with their governing bodies!!!

>

> Sharon

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>

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[Guest guest]

One thought.. " health effects " as measure in caged animals are things

like them getting cancer or dying or very clear, ultra-visible things.

But the lives of humans 'in the wild' and / or animals 'in the wild'

are very much different for the OBVIOUS reason that we must survive in

a not very hospitable world by our own wits.

That means (unless you are independently wealthy) you need to be able

to work and for most of us that work is sufficiently complicated that

machines can't do it or they WOULD be doing it.

So what might seem to a researcher to be a subtle effect in animals

which they would find VERY hard to quantify (like losing your short

term memory or being incredibly fatigued) BECAUSE ANIMALS CAN'T TALK..

can end up ruining a person's life because THEY CAN'T FUNCTION IN OUR

MODERN COMPETITIVE WORLD AT THE LEVEL THEY NEED TO.

But because these 'scientists' perhaps CHOOSE to gloss over this fact,

the studies intentionally fail to find the important connection..

[Guest guest]

Live, Im betting thier despertly trying to fiqure out what to do now.

think of all those mold cases that were lost because of the ACOEM

mold statement. yesterday was a emotional day for me as I'm sure it

was for others that have known what problems the ACOEM mold statememt

has caused for years while we all have suffered and not been able to

get proper medical help among other things. what a great day it was

to have the truth finally brought out. if I could have tolerated

drinking alcohol, I would of had a drink to celabrate.lol's.

but now I am back to being very angry about what I have suffered

through all these years that no matter how I look at it the ACOEM

mold statement played a very big part in. not only in cases being

lost which in turn caused lawyers to shy away from takeing these

cases, because all the effects of mold/mycotoxin exposure not being

reconized and/or costs envolved just to get the proof, than risking

that it may not even be admitted into court.lack of public knowledge,

not to mention all the doctors out there who may of actually had some

wondering about thier patients and thier symptoms but couldn't or

wouldn't go there because of pressure and/or lack of info. I am angry

that my life was not as important as money which is what it all boils

down to. I'm even more angry that my children and grandchildren were

exposed and thier health put at risk. I'm angry that I have lost

friends because of lack of knowledge to the public on the effects i

have suffered, and hurt fellings between family members because they

didn't understand.

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> > In a message dated 1/10/2007 1:33:33 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> > quackadillian@... <quackadillian%40gmail.com> writes:

> >

> > Does anyone know if there has been any suggestions by their

members to

> > their leadership that they do this?

> >

> > There has been a suggestion and a request. But I am not aware

they have

> > any

> > intention of retracting or editing either the American College of

> > Occupational and Environmental Medicine Mold Statement or the

American

> > Academy of

> > Allergy, Asthma and Immunology Mold Statement.

> >

> > Although....a little birdie told me that several members of both

> > organizations are quite upset with their governing bodies!!!

> >

> > Sharon

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