Re: Has Anyones Vision Cleared Up with Treatment or Time???

[Guest guest]

Barb, my subject was mcs and brain damage, don't change my headings,

make your own! you accused me before of haveing a tirad well now I am

haveing one. this board is not just about you. I have more patients

than most people but there at a end with you. you accused me once of

waisting space on this board while you where doing a good job of that

yourself, you have made statements that your never wrong but honey, you

are saometimes, and I thought it was pretty rude of you to not also say

you were sorry to the other day and have never said you were sorry

to anyone when you should have. someone is no longer on this board for

a few reasons not tottally to do with with you but he and I also had

conflicts because you were whining to me and I stuck up for you. I find

you a little rude and self serveing. I have repeatly reasoned with

myself that you are sick and grouchy so I let it slide but only so far

can my buttons be pushed. please give everyone in this group the same

respect that you demand. and this is the end of this subject.

> >

> > yes, for me its a combination of vascular and cns disorders and the

> > effects of my airways closeing up and it can affect all organs that

>

[Guest guest]

I think that when you say vision damage, you are being too broad..

I have lots of spots in my visual field that have not gone away, and I also

became unable to focus up close without extreme difficulty.. and that has

not gone away..

But, in court, they would of course say that the second one was normal

aging.. (even though I know it wasn't because it got much worse very quickly

when the mold was bad.. and went to my eye doctor begging that they see the

connection and only got a big argument from him... but later on found the

exact situation I was describing in the medical literature and another

doctor, an expert in this stuff, DID see the connection)

Barb, though, you should be aware that not only do certain kinds of corneal

scarring and retinal damage not get better, they can also make things much

worse years into the future than they would otherwise be..

You need to ask doctors about stuff like this.. not people like us, though..

There may be some treatments in the future with stem cells.. etc..

[Guest guest]

Thank you Live, that means a lot to me, but I have learned just as

much from everybody here too and you all mean a lot to me. between

everyone here most of aspects of this whole nightmare are being

covered. I do believe that everyone does have a purpose and we are

all here because this is our purpose. we are mold warriors.

>

> I think that when you say vision damage, you are being too broad..

>

> I have lots of spots in my visual field that have not gone away,

and I also

> became unable to focus up close without extreme difficulty.. and

that has

> not gone away..

>

> But, in court, they would of course say that the second one was

normal

> aging.. (even though I know it wasn't because it got much worse

very quickly

> when the mold was bad.. and went to my eye doctor begging that they

see the

> connection and only got a big argument from him... but later on

found the

> exact situation I was describing in the medical literature and

another

> doctor, an expert in this stuff, DID see the connection)

>

> Barb, though, you should be aware that not only do certain kinds of

corneal

> scarring and retinal damage not get better, they can also make

things much

> worse years into the future than they would otherwise be..

>

> You need to ask doctors about stuff like this.. not people like us,

though..

>

> There may be some treatments in the future with stem cells.. etc..

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My vision gets worse when I am having a bad day. One big thing I wish,

I wish I could grow another set of teeth to replace the ones I lost on

account of mold! My partials are horrible! Too bad we only get 2 sets!

> >

> > yes, for me its a combination of vascular and cns disorders and the

> > effects of my airways closeing up and it can affect all organs that

>

[Guest guest]

Jeanine, Rules on most boards are subject line should be

changed to reflect one's post. I wasn't changing subject line on your

own post. I was changing subject line on my own post to reflect my

own post. Sometimes people do it all on subject line: Was: etc,

etc Now: misc misc . You have taken it as if I have renamed your

own post but I did not. I made subject line of my own post more

accurately reflect what my post was. The rest I don't know what you

are talking about. Sorry if I have ever offended anyone though, but I

was not aware of it.

>

> Barb, my subject was mcs and brain damage, don't change my headings,

> make your own!

[Guest guest]

blurred vision can be a symptom of many diseases.

having said that, two moldies I know lost vision in one or both eyes and then

after away from the inciting area for a period of time and also with treatment,

recovered their vision.

sea <jackiebreeze@...> wrote:

My vision gets worse when I am having a bad day. One big thing I wish,

I wish I could grow another set of teeth to replace the ones I lost on

account of mold! My partials are horrible! Too bad we only get 2 sets!

> >

> > yes, for me its a combination of vascular and cns disorders and the

> > effects of my airways closeing up and it can affect all organs that

>

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[Guest guest]

I'm not asking a question a doctor would need to ask. I'm just asking

if people who had blurry vision like me, had it clear up after they

left moldy house or took CSM treatment.

Did I say eye damage? I thought I said blurry vision.

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> I think that when you say vision damage, you are being too broad..

>

> You need to ask doctors about stuff like this.. not people like us,

though..

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jane. Gives me a little hope anyway.

--- In , jane mosher <janeannmosher@...>

wrote:

>

> blurred vision can be a symptom of many diseases.

> having said that, two moldies I know lost vision in one or both

eyes and then after away from the inciting area for a period of time

and also with treatment, recovered their vision.

[Guest guest]

Yes, my wife's vision did clear up with time, or I should say got

better after being gone from that building for many years. No, it is

not 100% and at times will still bother her. While she was working she

lost all vision for a short period of time, along with one other

person when she was out that insisted on sitting in my wife's seat,

right under the HVAC vent. Within the hour she lost her vision too.

From what I understand for a longer period of time than what my wife

did. Just like everything else, every case is different because we

don't know exactly what each one of us at that time was being exposed

to. My wife was also exposed to high levels of gram negative bacteria.

How often is this tested for what are the possibilities? I know there

are alot of information on this also, but combined with mycotoxins no

one can truly determine the end results.

Yes, there have been several cases I have come across, one was a

young firemen that had mold in the firehouse, many were sick. He

started losing his eye sight in one eye and within a short time the

other one. He is legally blind in both eyes. Has he recovered, I don't

know. Another case was a gentlemen that worked on HVAC systems,

commerical/residential and he lost his eyesight. Another person that

worked with my wife, very young gentlemen, lost his eyesight, the

blood vessels in the back of the eye were bursting, according to the

doctors at Athens Regional Hospital.

One eye doctor I met on a job I was doing for him, worked at Emory,

which immediately made my skin crawl because of personal experience. I

started to question him on eye infections and of course the subject

reverted to fungal. He did not care for Emory himself and won't

comment, he said enough. But he did say the eye clinic was

excellant.He said he wishes more doctors would recognize fungal eye

infections, because they could become very serious and most of the

time are. And without me saying, " he said most physicians treat it

with steroids and that's like putting gas on a fire. " The chances

ofrecovery from what he has seen and experienced on these type of

infections, according to him, are very nasty and difficult to treat.

Recovery is only maybe 50/50. But most likely will be on medication

for the rest of your life. He said you can acquire this type of

infection just by walking through the woods and catching a stick in

the eye. I was stunned with the information he was so willingly

expressing, this was a first.

KC

> >

> > blurred vision can be a symptom of many diseases.

> > having said that, two moldies I know lost vision in one or both

> eyes and then after away from the inciting area for a period of time

> and also with treatment, recovered their vision.

>

[Guest guest]

My vision cleared up quite a bit while taking the CSM, while I was

still living in my toxin filled home. I was also able to track my

progress using the VCS online test - it's not too expensive to buy 10

tests. The VCS test also very accurately reflected when I got re-

exposed when staying in a hotel. And, yes, I realize that the VCS test

is different than the visual acuity you're referring to, but I believe

it is all still related to the the damage to the optical nerves. I do

still need reading glasses (not unusual for someone in their mid-40s),

but the world overall is far less blurry since I've taken the CSM.

[Guest guest]

My blurred vision comes & goes, Barb.....along with the stabbing eye pain I

have....

V.

[] Re: Has Anyones Vision Cleared Up with Treatment or

Time???

I'm not asking a question a doctor would need to ask. I'm just asking

if people who had blurry vision like me, had it clear up after they

left moldy house or took CSM treatment.

Did I say eye damage? I thought I said blurry vision.

>

> I think that when you say vision damage, you are being too broad..

>

> You need to ask doctors about stuff like this.. not people like us,

though..

[Guest guest]

LOOK UP DEVIC'S SYNDROME........I'M PRETTY SURE ITS CAUSED BY A DEMYELINATED

OPTIC NERVE.

V.

[] Has Anyones Vision Cleared Up with Treatment or

Time???

Subject was: What causes brain fog and blurry vision.

Did anyone have blurry vision that does not NOW???? That would be

good test to how things heal. Perhaps someone on CSM??? I only took

a little of it over alot of time.

>

> yes, for me its a combination of vascular and cns disorders and the

> effects of my airways closeing up and it can affect all organs that

[Guest guest]

, Thanks for reference to Devic's syndrome. Perhaps I can

talk to eye doctor about this. I don't feel hopeful he will look into

but worth a shot. Eye doctor never sees anything wrong with my eyes,

just gives me stronger Rx for glasses.

--- In , " " <toriaquilts@...>

wrote:

>

> LOOK UP DEVIC'S SYNDROME........I'M PRETTY SURE ITS CAUSED BY A

DEMYELINATED OPTIC NERVE.

> V.

>

[Guest guest]

Thank's for this info. here's a link on both it and MS that

was interesting. just one of many from search.

Devic's syndrome and MS

<http://www.mult-sclerosis.org/Devicssyndrome.html>

> >

> > yes, for me its a combination of vascular and cns disorders and

the

> > effects of my airways closeing up and it can affect all organs

that

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

My eyes got slowly bad while living in the moldy house. I would say

they are much better now. The eye specialist said to keep taking the

CSM to get my eyes as good as they will get

>

> Subject was: What causes brain fog and blurry vision.

>

> Did anyone have blurry vision that does not NOW???? That would be

> good test to how things heal. Perhaps someone on CSM??? I only took

> a little of it over alot of time.

>

[Guest guest]

Sue, That was the odd thing about my blurry vision also....When I

first had it, I didn't wear glasses and I went to doctor to get

glasses and he said I didn't need them!! The only thing I can think

is that when there is LIGHT behind the letters and the big contrast

between black and white letters, I can see the letters but when less

contrast and not the light behind, I can't see the letters so

different when actually trying to read, different than the eye test

with the lighted screen. It makes me wonder actually why they are

tested in such a light since we don't really read things that way or

at least not very often.

In , ssr3351@... wrote:

>

I couldn't see it. It was too small and blurry. The strange thing

> was that there was no change in my prescription! Since I have left

the

> school and been on Dr. Shoemaker's protocol my vision has improved!

>

> Sue

[Guest guest]

CSM helped to clear up my vision (we had already left our house) . My

vision was blurry and eyeglass changes did not improve it.

>

> I'm not asking a question a doctor would need to ask. I'm just

asking

> if people who had blurry vision like me, had it clear up after they

> left moldy house or took CSM treatment.

> Did I say eye damage? I thought I said blurry vision.

[Guest guest]

you're welcome, barb....... & good luck!

victoria

[] Re: Has Anyones Vision Cleared Up with Treatment or

Time???

, Thanks for reference to Devic's syndrome. Perhaps I can

talk to eye doctor about this. I don't feel hopeful he will look into

but worth a shot. Eye doctor never sees anything wrong with my eyes,

just gives me stronger Rx for glasses.

>

> LOOK UP DEVIC'S SYNDROME........I'M PRETTY SURE ITS CAUSED BY A

DEMYELINATED OPTIC NERVE.

> V.

>

[Guest guest]

PS---MAYBE TRY TO FIND A NEURO-OPTHALMOLOGIST?

V.

[] Re: Has Anyones Vision Cleared Up with Treatment or

Time???

, Thanks for reference to Devic's syndrome. Perhaps I can

talk to eye doctor about this. I don't feel hopeful he will look into

but worth a shot. Eye doctor never sees anything wrong with my eyes,

just gives me stronger Rx for glasses.

>

> LOOK UP DEVIC'S SYNDROME........I'M PRETTY SURE ITS CAUSED BY A

DEMYELINATED OPTIC NERVE.

> V.

>

[Guest guest]

THANKS......!! :>)

V.

[] Re: Has Anyones Vision Cleared Up with Treatment or

Time???

Thank's for this info. here's a link on both it and MS that

was interesting. just one of many from search.

Devic's syndrome and MS

<http://www.mult-sclerosis.org/Devicssyndrome.html>

> >

> > yes, for me its a combination of vascular and cns disorders and

the

> > effects of my airways closeing up and it can affect all organs

that

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