Guest guest Posted August 23, 1999 Report Share Posted August 23, 1999 , Thanks for this tip. This is great! Some very interesting reading there on how doctors approach a patient who has joint disease. http://www.merck.com/pubs/mmanual/section5/chapter49/49a.htm Mark rheumatic Merck Manual > From: " J " <denisej@...> > > The Merck Manual for has been published for 100 years and has become the > world's most widely used general medical text. It's now available free of > charge on the web. > > DRUG INFORMATION - Merck Manual > http://www.merck.com/pubs/mmanual/ > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Rhonda, I don't think it's much to worry about. you do some tests that basically are to deturmine what state of mind your in. they may diagnose anixity and depression or PTSD. if you know or think you have mcs and the room that you do the tests in is bothering you, I would tell them about it. I was still in moldy enviroment when they did my testing. thought I had did well on written quwstions but maybe not. at that time I had just found out about mold in one house but was liveing back in the first one and hadn't really realized the mold problem there. all my symptoms ran together and i didn't have a clue to what had been happening to me all those years. was still believeing my doctor and that it all had to do with back injury. my mcs symptoms hadn't unmasked thierselfs tottally at that time either. so you might just be better off not knowing what to expect. I don't know if they would send you to a neurologist for a spect brain scan. they might if your answers are not consistant. ? like kc says, it is what it is. I might be going through those tests again, well be interesting, but with mcs the outcome can be tottally different depending on weither the room has smells that affect me or not.--- In , " iluvbunnies5262 " <iluvbunnies5262@...> wrote: > > Someone posted I could find more about the psychological testing I will > be getting in the Merck Manual. What do I look under on their site to > find this? Rhonda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Guess I'm just wonder how I will feel on Tuesday as lately I'm not feeling that great and the fronts make it all worse. Will they ask me what my disability is or if they do, should I mention mold or not? Rhonda > > > > Someone posted I could find more about the psychological testing I > will > > be getting in the Merck Manual. What do I look under on their site > to > > find this? Rhonda > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 he should spend quite a bit of time talking to you, this is when you tell him what you've been through. yes, you may get diagnosed with PTSD, they do put you on disability for that. and if they do it's nothing to be embaressed about. the cause can be more physilogical than pychological with mold illness. at least you will get disability for that and I think the chances for getting on it for mold illness is neal and not much better for mcs. so basically if he doesn't reconize mold illness and all the symptoms and illnesses as a whole, at least you have a chance if at least one of your illnesses is reaconized as disableing.it's hard to tell you how any of it well go. the main thing is to be honest and just deal with it as it comes, you may have to have your doctor send you to another doctor to counter act what this one desides if it's not favorable to you. no easy road here. you may want and probably should look for a disability lawyer. if you have a mold doctor i would get with him on this also. > > > I, too, am being sent by SS to a psychologist next week. What is it they are > looking for? I know I'n not crazy but the illness, the chronic pain, fatigue > and not being able to work sure has me upset, anxious and pretty down in the > dumps. Do they want you to be depressed, anxious, etc. so they can just say > it is all in your head and then deny you benefits. I've never been to a > psychologist so I have no idea what to expect. What kinds of things are they > going to be doing? My paper from SS says bring the child with you and all > medications and that the appt. may take 2-3 hrs.!! I think they sent the wrong > letter. The other Dr. they have me seeing is a physiotherapist, the info they > sent me doesn't even have the correct office phone # for me to use and the > directions they sent are all wrong!! Makes me wonder if they really want me to > find the guy!?!!!!!! > > Sue > > Rhonda, I don't think it's much to worry about. you do some tests that > basically are to deturmine what state of mind your in. they may > diagnose anixity and depression or PTSD. if you know or think you have > mcs and the room that you do the tests in is bothering you, I would > tell them about it. I was still in moldy enviroment when they did my > testing. thought I had did well on written quwstions but maybe not. at > that time I had just found out about mold in one house but was liveing > back in the first one and hadn't really realized the mold problem there. > all my symptoms ran together and i didn't have a clue to what had been > happening to me all those years. was still believeing my doctor and > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 have they asked for a copy of your medical records? > > > > > > Someone posted I could find more about the psychological testing > I > > will > > > be getting in the Merck Manual. What do I look under on their > site > > to > > > find this? Rhonda > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 I think the wriiten tests basically deturmine if your well rounded in the mental area. several differents tests. one may be to determine if you are a lier. things like that. all i remember is that in report he said i was very well rounded, didn't exagerate, and was very truthful. than deturmined more from the interview what he diagnosed me with. i do remember one written test that asked questions about how i felt so that one may of been more to do with diagnoseing illness. sorry i was pretty out of it than and don't remember that much about it.I would stress that the main thing is to be truthful.--- In , " iluvbunnies5262 " <iluvbunnies5262@...> wrote: > > Guess I'm just wonder how I will feel on Tuesday as lately I'm not > feeling that great and the fronts make it all worse. Will they ask > me what my disability is or if they do, should I mention mold or > not? Rhonda > > > > > > > > Someone posted I could find more about the psychological testing > I > > will > > > be getting in the Merck Manual. What do I look under on their > site > > to > > > find this? Rhonda > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 You can read the entire Merck Manual, including the psychological test,online,for free, by going to www.merckmedicus.com, and registering as a doctor. It perfectly legal to do so, as long as you don't pretend to be a doctor, when sharing the information you learn, with others. This web site provides free access to many medical texts. When you register, they may ask you, online, for your license number and the state that issued the license. Enter your real driver's license number and state. Or any other valid license, as they do not specify " physician's " license. Once registered, look on the right side of their home page for " Merck Manual Professional Edition, and click on it. On the next page that opens, click on " psychiatric disorders " on the left side of the page. On the next page that opens, click on " approach to the patient with mental complaints " . On the next page that opens, click on " medical assessment of patient with mental symptoms " . This is the page with the test. You can print it out, but, unfortunately, there does not seem to be a way to save it to your computer, or email it. There is no mention of mold, mycotoxins, or multiple chemical sensitivities, as a possible cause of mental disorders. So, if you are waiting for a doctor, who does things " BY THE BOOK " , to recognize their connection to mental disorders, don't hold your breath. Holding your breath would probably make you fail the test. But, you might get lucky, and find a doctor who can think outside the box, or " outside the book " , who will see the connection. Good Luck. Joe > > I think the wriiten tests basically deturmine if your well rounded in > the mental area. several differents tests. one may be to determine if > you are a lier. things like that. all i remember is that in report he > said i was very well rounded, didn't exagerate, and was very > truthful. than deturmined more from the interview what he diagnosed > me with. i do remember one written test that asked questions about > how i felt so that one may of been more to do with diagnoseing > illness. sorry i was pretty out of it than and don't remember that > much about it.I would stress that the main thing is to be truthful.--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 I have forms I have filled out to give them Tuesday and one is a release from for my medical records so question is should I just take copies to give them or wait and see if they request my records. I'm sure they will want to see what docs have diagnosed and found so far. What do you think? There is a form to release MRI's also and I have a copy on hand I could go ahead and give them. Should I or let them request? I don't want them to form an opinion on me by reading the records while I'm there. Dr. T mentions too often anxiety and mental confusion and even said mental problems which he meant memory problems and not sure why he used mental crap so much and anxiety. I was not showing any anxiety at his office tho I was in extreme pain from the neck thing and was out of it but mental problems NO!! I'm at work and feel the cytokines and have the shakes. Place burns my eyes also and I have had lung burning but not lately. Should I get someone to drive me Tuesday and mention about almost blacking out last week or should I drive myself. I certainly do not want to lose my license and that hasn't happen to me much. Seems the fronts are connected along with being poisoned. Rhonda > > > > > > > > Someone posted I could find more about the psychological > testing > > I > > > will > > > > be getting in the Merck Manual. What do I look under on their > > site > > > to > > > > find this? Rhonda > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 no, if you signed request forms just let them get your records, they probably have thier own way of doing things, not saying its the right way. if he wanted your records before he see's ya, he would have done it that way. I take it that this is your work place that is sending you? chances are they won't make a diagnoses until they also view your med. records. > > > > > > > > > > Someone posted I could find more about the psychological > > testing > > > I > > > > will > > > > > be getting in the Merck Manual. What do I look under on > their > > > site > > > > to > > > > > find this? Rhonda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 It's the State Medical Board sending me. The reviewed my application for State disability and requested this test before further consideration. Rhonda > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone posted I could find more about the psychological > > > testing > > > > I > > > > > will > > > > > > be getting in the Merck Manual. What do I look under on > > their > > > > site > > > > > to > > > > > > find this? Rhonda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 WAY TO GO ANGEL! > > > We all know the term paid whores...so let me give a readers digest version > of how I got SS under the diagnosis of toxic encephalopathy. > > 1. DEMAND that they provide you WITH a " professional " who understands > your illness. I DEMANDED that they give me o someone with medical > background npt astupid liberal arts degreed " professiona; " who was on > their " payroll " aka list of porviders. > > 2. Deamdn they give you that persons CV, CEU's and all courses in A & P, > neurology, and medical sciencws, not the generic stuff you get as an > undergrad. > > 3. DEMAND they tell you HOW many people they TREATED, evaluted with your > problem. If none, then that perosn is NOT wqualified to evaluate ypu. > > 4. They state if they do not give you someone who is qualifed then you > will charge them with medical malpractice and go to the news media....SSA > does NOT like publicity. > > 5. Call your federal rep (senator/congresisonal rep) thats what they are > there for. > > 6. Demand to deal with a REAL person not a clerk/ontact person who is > giving you the so call " requirements. > > 7. I MADE them give me the opportunity to QUESTION who they wanted me to > go to. We went OUTSIDE of thier list of paid whores. I got a board > certified phd in neurotoxicology to do my eval. I interviewed him and > then agreed he was acceptable and they made arrangements to pay him. NOw > you have to understand the system. Each claimaint is allocated something > like 260 or so for them to sp[end on you. SO of course the cheapest > whpres are the psychologists. > > > 8. This guy specialized in traumatic brain injuries and I know the chems > hit the CNS with me. > > 9. He did not know the tests to be done and I provided him with the info > and he agreed the tests were useful in determining my disability. > > 10. I made him be fragrance free etc. We spent a couple of times talking > and I was ME. NO act just me and my usual attitrude towards things. Then > we did the tests in a fairly neutral environment. I DID NOT look to > appear sick or anything like that. > > 11. He was very interested in TE as he really never dealt with it in his > practice but knew about it. > > 12. I did the tests to the best of my ability as I wanted him to see I > WAS able to function in a netural environment. I DID keep asking him nhow > I was doing as I was very concerned that my ability was coming through. > > 13. After we did the testing I DEMANDED that he come and watch me get > " whacked " he resisted but I forced the issue. I told him UNLESS ypu see > how things affect me you can not truly make a valid determination. So we > went on a tour of the apt complex so I could find something to trigger me. > I started to react by mubbling, and stumbling on wprds. He asked what is > it, I told him it was laundry stuff and of course he didn't notice > anything, I was now getting spacy and starting to not be able to respond > as fast as I was previsouly. We turned a corner and he noticed the smell, > so he did see I smelled at a higher level then him. I stayed there and > got sicker in front of his eyes. I was in my doe in the headlights look, > unable to speak as the words didn;t want to come out, it was if I knew > what I wanted to say but was missing the step in my brain to say them. By > now I was literally tripping on blades of grass. He determined it was > time for me to get out opf there. > > 14. We was concerned that I was sick and wanted to be sure I could > reverse it. I DEMANDED that he retest me to see the loss of > functionability and we did. > > 15. I was not able to recreate that " block " testas I did before and I was > not able to talk in the manner he was used to seeing me perform. > > 16. His report stated that my performance was impaired with the chemcials > and my ability was very clearly defined. > > 17. I had been complaining from our initial talk I felt like I was > getting dumb/stupid as I knew I had a iq of 140 something and now things > would not process or come across as such. His testing detrermined that my > iq tested at I think 117 or 119 but my ability to understand and explain > abstract concepts was higher than I tested, but he could not verify it was > previous;y at 140+. > > 18. There was no doubt that the cheicals did have an effect on my > cognitive ability. THerefore, it was NOT PSYCHOLOGICAL and I was awarded > SS under toxic encephaloapthy. Woth requirements of bieng in a work > environment that was chemcially neutral. THat I was stressed over having > an illness that is not understood by most people. > > 19. Try to stand up foryourself and hold off until you can get a REAL > person who can give you a honest independent evaluation. Be yourself and > let them see how it affects you. > > 20. Most of the paid whores are looking to see if they can peg you as > being depressed as that gives them the abiloty to call these illnesses > > > everything but what they truly are. Everything is a statistic with them. > > 21. THey know claimiants are DESPERATE for $ and they force you to hold > out and accept whatever diagnosis they give you so you can receive > benefits. It SUCKS what they do and get away with. > > 22. THe paidwhores look to see how you are dressed, are you dirty, > dishelved, are you " derpessed " looking or acting, Are you taking care of > hygiene, feeding yourself, able to do normal daily acitivites. > > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 19:50:26 EST From: ssr3351@... Reply-To: > > Subject: > > > Re: [] Re: Merck Manual > > 1.> > > > > I, too, am being sent by SS to a psychologist next week. What is it they are > > looking for? I know I'n not crazy but the illness, the chronic pain, fatigue > > and not being able to work sure has me upset, anxious and pretty down in the > > dumps. Do they want you to be depressed, anxious, etc. so they can just say > > it is all in your head and then deny you benefits. I've never been to a > > psychologist so I have no idea what to expect. What kinds of things are they > > going to be doing? My paper from SS says bring the child with you and all > > medications and that the appt. may take 2-3 hrs.!! I think they sent the wrong > > letter. The other Dr. they have me seeing is a physiotherapist, the info they > > sent me doesn't even have the correct office phone # for me to use and the > > directions they sent are all wrong!! Makes me wonder if they really want me to > > find the guy!?!!!!!! > > > > Sue > > > > Rhonda, I don't think it's much to worry about. you do some tests that > > basically are to deturmine what state of mind your in. they may > > diagnose anixity and depression or PTSD. if you know or think you have > > mcs and the room that you do the tests in is bothering you, I would > > tell them about it. I was still in moldy enviroment when they did my > > testing. thought I had did well on written quwstions but maybe not. at > > that time I had just found out about mold in one house but was liveing > > back in the first one and hadn't really realized the mold problem there. > > all my symptoms ran together and i didn't have a clue to what had been > > happening to me all those years. was still believeing my doctor and > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 I did a google search and thought I found the merck manual online. RC > > > > I think the wriiten tests basically deturmine if your well rounded in > > the mental area. several differents tests. one may be to determine if > > you are a lier. things like that. all i remember is that in report he > > said i was very well rounded, didn't exagerate, and was very > > truthful. than deturmined more from the interview what he diagnosed > > me with. i do remember one written test that asked questions about > > how i felt so that one may of been more to do with diagnoseing > > illness. sorry i was pretty out of it than and don't remember that > > much about it.I would stress that the main thing is to be truthful.--- > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Post tramatic stress disorder. they ask the questions and they deturmine from tests and talking to you if you have any problems. they know what questions to ask and they abserve you and they base thier diagnoses on several things. it is not just a matter of what you tell them. the main thing is just to be honest so they can make a accurate diagnoses. from what I've read and heard on this board most have depression and anixity symptoms. some of my brain injury probably lent to the diagnoses of ptsd. ptsd is tottal loss of control over emotions and can include flashbacks, seeing things that aren't there, not being able to think clearly, not being able to consentrate, things like that. and he will be able to tell the difference as to weather you have these condictions or not. > > > What is PTSD? If you say you are depressed is that in my favor or not? > > Sus > > > > > he should spend quite a bit of time talking to you, this is when you > tell him what you've been through. yes, you may get diagnosed with > PTSD, they do put you on disability for that. and if they do it's > nothing to be embaressed about. the cause can be more physilogical > than pychological with mold illness. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Anything that has been named as a disability. > > > What is PTSD? If you say you are depressed is that in my favor or not? > > Sus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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