Re: re-cirrculating cars air

[Guest guest]

Many of the new cars have what they call an incabin air filter. Check with

your dealer and ask if your car has one and it can be easily changed!

Hmmm,

My car might have a filter? Guess I'll have to pull out the owners manual.

Geez, don't think I've ever even looked at it. hehehe All I have to know is

how to put it in drive and go. If I figure the rest out great, if not oh

well. hehehe

[Guest guest]

I had not thought about the pet issue in used cars. Owners bring the dander

into the cars on their clothes.

But in urban areas, most are parked in newish garages. Just have to establish a

relationship with the salesguy.

Something else to worry about. JAM

<vbrk@...> wrote: When you get

an answer tell me. I've often wondered how to do that too or if it is possible.

I mean we clean the ducts in ours homes. We use MERV/HEPA rating filters in our

homes. We don't have that advantage in a car. I'll bet the heat ducts (or

whatever they are called) in our cars are disgusting. Also, what if you buy a

used car from someone. Many here don't have the advantage of getting a new car.

These sellers put their pets in there. They smoke. They probably have moldy

homes. They drive down dirt roads. Never really thought about all that until

the past few years.

If you call the dealer to find out and do, let us know. I'll try to see if I

can gather any info. on cleaning them also. If you can we'll have a national

day " clean your car ducts. " hehehe

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What about CLEANING the air in cars, or cleaning the cars intake system

itself?

When we lived in our moldy apt. we had to park our car in a parking lot

that was very dirty and moldy because it was not at all far from the mold

areas in the basement.. (parking on the street was IMPOSSIBLE, the worst you

could imagine, with zero open spaces, double parked cars, constant ticketing

and tow aways.. not feasible for any length of time. Renting another parking

space elswehere would have cost what apartments cost in many places.) We

have washed the outside of our car many times over and vaccumed out and

washed the inside but we have never been able to clean inside of the vents

per se.. Has anyone had to do that? We may be getting re-exposed by the vent

air.. (although it seems as if baking during many HOT summer months after we

moved would have gotten rid of the worst of it.. I still seem to be better

on days I don't do any car travel than whenever I go out in it anywhere..

(actually, I think it is probably the stores - they all make me sick..)

We have a pressure washer, steam cleaner.. HEPA vacumns.. etc. all the

cleaning paraphenalia one would want.. Maybe I should call the car dealer

and ask them?

[Guest guest]

Maybe I can help a bit here. When we left our moldy home I started to

have severe breathing problems. I could not breathe in our car unless

I kept the windows open and stuck my head out. The company who

remediated our personal possessions also cleaned our cars. As far as

I know they put some sort of cleaner into the ventilation system and

flushed it out. They also HEPA vacuumed everything. If I recall

correctly my dealer mentioned that they too can clean the car's

ventilation system, so you might ask some repair shops about that.

Sometime after that, I discovered that my " new " allergies were severe

and breathing outside air was a problem for me. I purchased portable

HEPA filters from Allergy Buyers Club and I use one in each car. I

always recirculate the air and run the filters. I can detect it if my

husband changes the settings and brings in outside air.

I take one of these filters with me when we stay in a hotel or with

friends.

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>

> When you get an answer tell me. I've often wondered how to do that

too or if it is possible. I mean we clean the ducts in ours homes.

We use MERV/HEPA rating filters in our homes. We don't have that

advantage in a car. I'll bet the heat ducts (or whatever they are

called) in our cars are disgusting. Also, what if you buy a used car

from someone. Many here don't have the advantage of getting a new

car. These sellers put their pets in there. They smoke. They

probably have moldy homes. They drive down dirt roads. Never really

thought about all that until the past few years.

> If you call the dealer to find out and do, let us know. I'll try

to see if I can gather any info. on cleaning them also. If you can

we'll have a national day " clean your car ducts. "

hehehe

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the great link with lots of good info!!!!

Sue

Try the link below, it will tell you if your vehicle has one. Biff Byrum

_http://www.allergybhttp://wwwhttp://wwwhttp://www.ahttp://ww_

(http://www.allergybegone.com/car-cabin-air-filters-info.html)

[Guest guest]

Depending on the car, it may be better to not recirculate the air, but to

always bring in fresh. Many newer cars, and even some not so old, like my

1996 Ford Contour, have a filter in the air intake, under the hood. These

filters do a great job of preventing dust from getting into cooling/heating

coils, and thus preventing mold growth. Recirculating air in the passenger

compartment allows dust in the passenger compartment to enter the cooling

system. Inside air is not filtered.

Filters do not stop odors, but do a good job of removing smoke particles,

even most of sooty diesel exhaust. Filters do need to be changed

periodically, 2 years the general manufacturer recommendation.

I didn't even know of this filter when I bought my car. But now I consider

it essential in any other car I buy.

Gil

Re: re-cirrculating cars air

Posted by: " " vbrk@... vbrk123

Date: Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:43 am ((PST))

Sue,

Does this method work for you? Is the temp. the same? Someone mentioned

this to me, told it also helps w/gas mileage. The fumes from outside bother

me too. So, if they bother me I am sure the are really bothering my

duaghter. Even though she doesn't notice it. I was a bit concerned

w/re-cirruclating the inside air, but heck it is probably safer than outside

(now that I am seriously having to think about it) I'd be willing to give

it a shot.

[] Re:bad news about Jan. paycheck ETC LONG venting

Rhonda,

When you are driving, do you set your heat/AC system on re-circulate? I

found I have to keep mine set that way instead of drawing in outside air to

avoid the exhaust from the other cars and trucks on the road. If I don't, I

get an MCS type reaction, including feeling like I am going to pass out. You

mentioned that you think you are developing chemical sensitivity, the

problem while driving was an early sign for me.

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[Guest guest]

, most intake air filters are right there closest to you when

you open the hood. usually there are two. there should be some winged

nuts that you unscrew and the cover pops off, right there on the air

intake manifold. they are around 6 or 8 inch square, easy to change.

you can probably stop in at a parts store and someone will help you

locate them and see if they need replaced.

>

> Hmmm,

> My car might have a filter? Guess I'll have to pull out the owners

manual.

> Geez, don't think I've ever even looked at it. hehehe All I have

to know is

> how to put it in drive and go. If I figure the rest out great, if

not oh

> well. hehehe

>

> [] Re:bad news about Jan. paycheck ETC

LONG

> > venting

> >

> >

> > Rhonda,

> >

> > When you are driving, do you set your heat/AC system on re-

circulate? I

> > found I have to keep mine set that way instead of drawing in

outside air

> > to

> > avoid the exhaust from the other cars and trucks on the road. If

I don't,

> > I

> > get an MCS type reaction, including feeling like I am going to

pass out.

> > You

> > mentioned that you think you are developing chemical sensitivity,

the

> > problem while driving was an early sign for me.

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hmmm,

My car might have a filter? Guess I'll have to pull out the owners manual.

Geez, don't think I've ever even looked at it. hehehe All I have to know is

how to put it in drive and go. If I figure the rest out great, if not oh

well. hehehe

[] Re:bad news about Jan. paycheck ETC LONG

> venting

>

>

> Rhonda,

>

> When you are driving, do you set your heat/AC system on re-circulate? I

> found I have to keep mine set that way instead of drawing in outside air

> to

> avoid the exhaust from the other cars and trucks on the road. If I don't,

> I

> get an MCS type reaction, including feeling like I am going to pass out.

> You

> mentioned that you think you are developing chemical sensitivity, the

> problem while driving was an early sign for me.

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN Entertainment Guide to the

> Academy Awards®

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>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

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[Guest guest]

WOOOOHOOOOO,

I have 2. Maybe that's why my daughter doesn't get sick in there. To bad they

don't have carbon to remove odors. hehehe Not like asking for to much.

[] Re:bad news about Jan. paycheck ETC LONG

> venting

>

>

> Rhonda,

>

> When you are driving, do you set your heat/AC system on re-circulate? I

> found I have to keep mine set that way instead of drawing in outside air

> to

> avoid the exhaust from the other cars and trucks on the road. If I don't,

> I

> get an MCS type reaction, including feeling like I am going to pass out.

> You

> mentioned that you think you are developing chemical sensitivity, the

> problem while driving was an early sign for me.

>

> __________________________________________________________

> From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN Entertainment Guide to the

> Academy Awards®

> http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline1

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

This filter has good ratings and is sized especially for cars:

<http://www.alerg.com/page/A/CTGY/AIR8>

>

I have 2. Maybe that's why my daughter doesn't get sick in there. To

bad they don't have carbon to remove odors. hehehe Not like asking

for to much.

>

[Guest guest]

Try the link below, it will tell you if your vehicle has one. Biff Byrum

http://www.allergybegone.com/car-cabin-air-filters-info.html

Re: [] Re: re-cirrculating cars air

>

> Many of the new cars have what they call an incabin air filter. Check

> with

> your dealer and ask if your car has one and it can be easily changed!

>

>

>

>

> Hmmm,

> My car might have a filter? Guess I'll have to pull out the owners

> manual.

> Geez, don't think I've ever even looked at it. hehehe All I have to know

> is

> how to put it in drive and go. If I figure the rest out great, if not oh

> well. hehehe

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

This filter probably isn't as good but it's cheaper. I have these in my

cars and pack one when we travel:

http://www.allergybuyersclubshopping.com/roomaid.html?psysVid=0b96qnjk

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> >

> I have 2. Maybe that's why my daughter doesn't get sick in there.

To

> bad they don't have carbon to remove odors. hehehe Not like asking

> for to much.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The temperature is not affected, you still set your temp. controls to whatever

is comfortable. In fact, it heats or cools faster on recirculate. I can't

tolerate the exhaust that enters through the air system or open windows, so mine

is always on recirculate unless I am alone on the road or very far from other

vehicles. Trucks, diesels, and older cars are the worst; but they all are a

problem and especially in heavy traffic. Also, it is worse on cloudy days - my

theory is denser air holds the fumes lower to the ground for longer.

[Guest guest]

Forgot to try it while taking my daughter to school. Got to remember to do it

today. Once I get it set it will be easy. Just hard to remember to do

something new for me. Thanx for the reminder. hehe

[] Re: re-cirrculating cars air

The temperature is not affected, you still set your temp. controls to whatever

is comfortable. In fact, it heats or cools faster on recirculate. I can't

tolerate the exhaust that enters through the air system or open windows, so mine

is always on recirculate unless I am alone on the road or very far from other

vehicles. Trucks, diesels, and older cars are the worst; but they all are a

problem and especially in heavy traffic. Also, it is worse on cloudy days - my

theory is denser air holds the fumes lower to the ground for longer.