Re: The tides are starting to change

[Guest guest]

But KC--where are we to go now and where are we to live? All I want to do is

sleep anymore. Jane

tigerpaw2c <tigerpaw2c@...> wrote: This

post was on a professional board. WE ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE.

......

It seems to me that it would be organizationally responsible and

medically sound for ACOEM to convene a meeting of physicians who

actually treat patients with " mold exposure " to develop a " clinical

guidance " .

The lawyers and retained experts will be fighting this as long as

they've fought tobacco and asbestos in brake shoes, but it seems to

me that as there indeed are people who get sick from indoor air, a

practioner-directed document, as opposed to a court-directed

document, could help a lot of people.

I'd start by suggesting that Tee consider assembling an ad hoc

group, and the first requirement be that phsyicans had treated at

least 10 patients per year for the last 3 years who had mold

exposure. Retained expert witnessing doesn't count.

The group would attempt to assemble realistic guidance for

clinicians and patients.

Any support?

R. Harbut, MD, MPH, FCCP

Chief, Center for Occ/Env Medicine, Royal Oak, Mi

Co-Director, Nat'l Center for Vermicullie/Asbestos Cancers, Karmanos

Cancer Institute,

Wayne State University, Detroit, Mi

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Have a HUGE year through Small Business.

[Guest guest]

Jane,

What would you like me to say? We have been working many years to

get to this point and the most important thing right now is to get

our representatives to understand not only the conflicts of

interests, but the medical issues that stem from mold exposure and

that this is not new science or on the cutting edge. What we must

first accomplish is getting our physicians to recognize these

illnesses so we can receive proper diagnosis and treatment in the

early stages. At the same time to start questioning about our work

or living environment. We need treatment first and foremost. Knowing

how to recognize this condition in the early stages we can prevent

this progressing to the stage where many of us are on this board.

We must take one step at a time and the recognition concerning the

cause of many of our illnesses should be at the top of the list.

Everything else will fall into place. Many of the issues that

circulate around mold is not going to happen over night. Almost all

industries have already started to change, not only to educate the

public and create awareness, but they now understand prevention and

early intervention is the key.

There is only one major industry that seems to do their best to keep

this under wraps and that is the insurance industry. Which really

does not make a bit of sense, because they ought to realize by now,

education and prevention would do nothing more than to save them

their most precious asset MONEY.... Some just have not figured this

out yet.

KC

>

> But KC--where are we to go now and where are we to live? All I

want to do is sleep anymore. Jane

>

> tigerpaw2c <tigerpaw2c@...>

wrote: This post was on a

professional board. WE ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE.

> ......

>

> It seems to me that it would be organizationally responsible and

> medically sound for ACOEM to convene a meeting of physicians who

> actually treat patients with " mold exposure " to develop

a " clinical

> guidance " .

>

> The lawyers and retained experts will be fighting this as long as

> they've fought tobacco and asbestos in brake shoes, but it seems

to

> me that as there indeed are people who get sick from indoor air,

a

> practioner-directed document, as opposed to a court-directed

> document, could help a lot of people.

>

> I'd start by suggesting that Tee consider assembling an ad hoc

> group, and the first requirement be that phsyicans had treated at

> least 10 patients per year for the last 3 years who had mold

> exposure. Retained expert witnessing doesn't count.

>

> The group would attempt to assemble realistic guidance for

> clinicians and patients.

>

> Any support?

>

>

> R. Harbut, MD, MPH, FCCP

> Chief, Center for Occ/Env Medicine, Royal Oak, Mi

> Co-Director, Nat'l Center for Vermicullie/Asbestos Cancers,

Karmanos

> Cancer Institute,

> Wayne State University, Detroit, Mi

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Get your own web address.

> Have a HUGE year through Small Business.

>

>

[Guest guest]

You've got support from me, someone who has been exposed and has

been very sick for many years. I have written to my local

representatitves to take action. I am also in the process of

fighting to get disability for the past four years but I'm not just

fighting for myself. I'm fighting for all those who have suffered

and are still suffering from this nightmare.

Dana

PS. My daughter is also sick and she's only 13.

--- In , " tigerpaw2c " <tigerpaw2c@...>

wrote:

>

> This post was on a professional board. WE ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE.

> ......

>

> It seems to me that it would be organizationally responsible and

> medically sound for ACOEM to convene a meeting of physicians who

> actually treat patients with " mold exposure " to develop

a " clinical

> guidance " .

>

> The lawyers and retained experts will be fighting this as long as

> they've fought tobacco and asbestos in brake shoes, but it seems

to

> me that as there indeed are people who get sick from indoor air, a

> practioner-directed document, as opposed to a court-directed

> document, could help a lot of people.

>

> I'd start by suggesting that Tee consider assembling an ad hoc

> group, and the first requirement be that phsyicans had treated at

> least 10 patients per year for the last 3 years who had mold

> exposure. Retained expert witnessing doesn't count.

>

> The group would attempt to assemble realistic guidance for

> clinicians and patients.

>

> Any support?

>

>

> R. Harbut, MD, MPH, FCCP

> Chief, Center for Occ/Env Medicine, Royal Oak, Mi

> Co-Director, Nat'l Center for Vermicullie/Asbestos Cancers,

Karmanos

> Cancer Institute,

> Wayne State University, Detroit, Mi

>