Re: Condemnation lawsuit against Elsmere dismissed

[Guest guest]

This story came from close to me. I can remember when the town

condemned this apartment complex. It was disgusting. Even the health

department said it was the worse they had even seen. Then the complex

tried to sue the city. One case that was properly handled, but then

the new owners claim they remediated the place. I can't imagine that.

--- In , " tigerpaw2c " <tigerpaw2c@...>

wrote:

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> Condemnation lawsuit against Elsmere dismissed

> By SEAN O'SULLIVAN, The News Journal

>

> Posted Thursday, February 22, 2007 at 1:57 pm

>

> http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?

> AID=/20070222/NEWS/70222047

>

> Work at the Fenwick Park Apartments in Elsmere in 2003. (Buy photo)

>

> The News Journal/BOB HERBERT

> WILMINGTON -- A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit that charged

> the town of Elsmere improperly condemned a 156-unit apartment

> complex in 2002.

>

[Guest guest]

An important issue came up which I think needs to be understood better. The

judge qualified her judgement that the town did have the right to condemn

the buildings (throwing many people into the street --- which should NOT

have happened that way.) by saying that it was not clear that the apartments

above the moldy apartments were unhealthy.

Now I have done a lot of reading on just this subject as well as spoken with

some heavyweights in the field on exactly this because I lived in a similar

situation and its pretty clear that unless a building is designed (and its

very difficult to do this and have it work) so that a basement area is

outside of the so called 'building envelope' - the building shell - which

means outside of the buildings habitable space - outside its shell- that

there IS transport through a buildings walls of everything that is in that

building below a certain size (~2 microns) with even low pressure

differentials. (and any building more than 2 stories high will have very

substantial pressure differentials just because of the hot air rising

effect..) The only way to halt this migration of particles is to pressurize

individual apartments so that the pressure inside offsets the stack effect

and its natural depressuriztions.

That means that the smaller aspergillius species (the same ones that often

don't show up on airocell spore traps) can also just squeeze through tiny

cracks from one space or floor to another and that all the fungal fragments

can move from floor to floor as well (with their mycotoxin load..) and they

DO.

Buildings like that often end up being RIDDLED with mold ***and over time,

the longer time goes on - the more the toxin situation could easily end up

being much worse than a simple spore test would indicate*** - and when they

get like that its not going to be a good situation for anybody involved.

On 2/23/07, ldelp84227 <ldelp84227@...> wrote:

>

> This story came from close to me. I can remember when the town

> condemned this apartment complex. It was disgusting. Even the health

> department said it was the worse they had even seen. Then the complex

> tried to sue the city. One case that was properly handled, but then

> the new owners claim they remediated the place. I can't imagine that.

>

>

>

> >

> > Condemnation lawsuit against Elsmere dismissed

> > By SEAN O'SULLIVAN, The News Journal

> >

> > Posted Thursday, February 22, 2007 at 1:57 pm

> >

> > http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?

> > AID=/20070222/NEWS/70222047

> >

> > Work at the Fenwick Park Apartments in Elsmere in 2003. (Buy photo)

> >

> > The News Journal/BOB HERBERT

> > WILMINGTON -- A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit that charged

> > the town of Elsmere improperly condemned a 156-unit apartment

> > complex in 2002.

> >

>

>

>