Re: Foods to Eliminated if Sensitive to Mold or Fungi

[Guest guest]

sea,

Thanks for this excellent list. It brought back many memories of

years ago when I had to stay on a strict diet of avoidance. I can

cheat more often (actually, quite often!) now but still have to

carefully watch some of these. Leftovers is still a big problem for

me. I would add to the list, based on my needs:

Fruit juices. The juice is made from the the fruit too ripe to

transport and sell, which means higher levels of bacteria and mold

that makes them ripe and eventually decomposed.

Lettuce more than 2 days in the fridge.

Gouda cheese from bacterial culture is rather than mold seems to be

okay for me. It is sometimes hard to find but the info will be on the

label.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

> Hi,

> I have been meaning to post this. About 25 years ago I went to a

> alternative allergist. He was medical as well as natural. He was

> pretty old but a great doctor. I think he might be retired now as I

> have been unable to locat him. His shots were the only allergy shots

> I ever had that actually did not make me worse.

> But anyway, here is a sheet I found on this last move that he gave me

> many years ago.

>

> Foods To Avoid if Sensitive to Mold or Fungi:

>

> Cheese of all kinds, including cottage cheess.

>

> Sour Cream; sour milk and butter milk, if old.

>

> Vinegar and vinegar containing food such as mayonnaise and other

> salad dressinss, catsup. chilli sauce, pickles, pickled beets,

> relishes and green olives, prepared mustards, pickled and smoked

> meats and fish, including delicatessen foods, especially sausages,

> frankfurters, corn beef, and pickle tongue, lunchen meats, coldcuts.

>

> *Substitue lemon juice for vinegar.

>

> Sour Breads such as pumpernickel, coffee cakes and other foods made

> with large amounts of yeast.

>

> Sauerkraut

>

> Cider and homemade root beer.

>

> Mushrooms

>

> All dried fruits such as apricots, dates, prumes, figs and raiins.

>

> Commercially canned tomatoes and all canned juices.

>

> Eat only freshly opened home canned foods.

>

> Do not eat meat or fish more than 24 hours old. Avoid foods if made

> from left overs such as meat loaf, hash, amd croquettes. Avoid

> hamburger unless made from freshly ground meat.

>

> After being free of symptons for atlease 6 to 12 months and it's out

> of season, the above items can be added occassionaly to the diet one

> at a time, to determine if symptoms are thereby produce.

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Carl,

After this good doctor put me on this " mold free " diet, I planted a

nice organic garden. I never had a garden in my life, I just did what

my dad, who was an organic gardener said to do as well as read a few

books. I canned my own foods and froze my foods fresh from the

garden. My garden was so huge I could not keep the weeds out but to

everyone's amazement, I had the largest veggies most had ever seen!

My only mistake was planting cucumbers next to watermelons! This

mistake made some funny looking and nasty tasting food!! Cross

pollination! I did not even have insect because I planted the plants

the book said to keep bugs out. I think it was marigolds as well as

herbs like dill.

I lost weight and even lost the dark circles under my eyes. Since, I

have not had the land or either I was working too hard to have a

garden. I now live on enough land to have one so I plan on getting

out around mid Feb to start carrots and other cool weather veggies

good for my zone.

I had forgotten all about the left over rule until I saw this paper

of old. I am going to start following this. I had been cooking

extras so I would not need to cook the next day...I know, that's lazy!

I sure wish I knew what happened to that doctor because he was on to

something and ahead of the times, even back then. Since, I have been

to 3 different doctors and all of the allergy shots make me sicker

than dealing with the allergies. I sure wish I knew what made his

shots different. I can't even remember his name. This paper does not

have his name on it but I remember him giving it to me. I would love

to get my hands on my records from him. I remember him mentioning

something about juices to avoid but I forgot.

He did say one could eat yogurt.

Thanks for the info on lattice, I had no idea there was a 2 day rule.

I will remember this.

I read on Dr. Mercola once that Gouda cheese was OK to eat. I find

it in the deli section at my supermarket. So far I do OK eating it.

I am having a tough time finding good produce as of late. We don't

have many places one can purchase good organic. The best place I

have found is Publix as far as freshness so I just stick to buying

produce there now...

--- In , " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...>

wrote:

>

> sea,

>

> Thanks for this excellent list. It brought back many memories of

> years ago when I had to stay on a strict diet of avoidance. I can

> cheat more often (actually, quite often!) now but still have to

> carefully watch some of these. Leftovers is still a big problem for

> me. I would add to the list, based on my needs:

>

> Fruit juices. The juice is made from the the fruit too ripe to

> transport and sell, which means higher levels of bacteria and mold

> that makes them ripe and eventually decomposed.

>

> Lettuce more than 2 days in the fridge.

>

> Gouda cheese from bacterial culture is rather than mold seems to be

> okay for me. It is sometimes hard to find but the info will be on

the

> label.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

> -----

> > Hi,

> > I have been meaning to post this. About 25 years ago I went to a

> > alternative allergist. He was medical as well as natural. He was

> > pretty old but a great doctor. I think he might be retired now as

I

> > have been unable to locat him. His shots were the only allergy

shots

> > I ever had that actually did not make me worse.

> > But anyway, here is a sheet I found on this last move that he

gave me

> > many years ago.

> >

> > Foods To Avoid if Sensitive to Mold or Fungi:

> >

> > Cheese of all kinds, including cottage cheess.

> >

> > Sour Cream; sour milk and butter milk, if old.

> >

> > Vinegar and vinegar containing food such as mayonnaise and other

> > salad dressinss, catsup. chilli sauce, pickles, pickled beets,

> > relishes and green olives, prepared mustards, pickled and smoked

> > meats and fish, including delicatessen foods, especially

sausages,

> > frankfurters, corn beef, and pickle tongue, lunchen meats,

coldcuts.

> >

> > *Substitue lemon juice for vinegar.

> >

> > Sour Breads such as pumpernickel, coffee cakes and other foods

made

> > with large amounts of yeast.

> >

> > Sauerkraut

> >

> > Cider and homemade root beer.

> >

> > Mushrooms

> >

> > All dried fruits such as apricots, dates, prumes, figs and raiins.

> >

> > Commercially canned tomatoes and all canned juices.

> >

> > Eat only freshly opened home canned foods.

> >

> > Do not eat meat or fish more than 24 hours old. Avoid foods if

made

> > from left overs such as meat loaf, hash, amd croquettes. Avoid

> > hamburger unless made from freshly ground meat.

> >

> > After being free of symptons for atlease 6 to 12 months and it's

out

> > of season, the above items can be added occassionaly to the diet

one

> > at a time, to determine if symptoms are thereby produce.

> >

> >

> >

> > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Could that doctor have been an environmental doctor? The doctor I see

for allergy treatment is one and the shots he gives me do work, unlike

the traditional allergy shots which do not work at all for me. I get

relief almost immediately. I believe the testing technique is called

provacation/neutralization. " Beware " though because quackwatch

considers this treatment ineffective.

-

" Since, I have been to 3 different doctors and all of the allergy shots

make me sicker than dealing with the allergies. I sure wish I knew what

made his shots different. "

[Guest guest]

What about vegetable juice. I love V8 and tomato juice and I can't

give that up. So you saying lettuce is bad after two days in the

fridge? Who knows how long it sits in the grocery store and in there

freezer and all that water they squirt on the continuously. I wonder

about the greens I buy my bunnies and I always buy enough for 2-3

days so I don't go to store everyday but I wash it off before giving

to them. I look close at it for any visable mold and I know mold is

there before you see it. I eat left overs too. It is hard enough

trying to figure out what to eat for one esp. without having

leftovers. It is gross if they make juices with moldy fruit or

vegetable juices with mold. Rhonda

> >

> > sea,

> >

> > Thanks for this excellent list. It brought back many memories of

> > years ago when I had to stay on a strict diet of avoidance. I can

> > cheat more often (actually, quite often!) now but still have to

> > carefully watch some of these. Leftovers is still a big problem

for

> > me. I would add to the list, based on my needs:

> >

> > Fruit juices. The juice is made from the the fruit too ripe to

> > transport and sell, which means higher levels of bacteria and

mold

> > that makes them ripe and eventually decomposed.

> >

> > Lettuce more than 2 days in the fridge.

> >

> > Gouda cheese from bacterial culture is rather than mold seems to

be

> > okay for me. It is sometimes hard to find but the info will be on

> the

> > label.

> >

> > Carl Grimes

> > Healthy Habitats LLC

> >

> > -----

> > > Hi,

> > > I have been meaning to post this. About 25 years ago I went to

a

> > > alternative allergist. He was medical as well as natural. He

was

> > > pretty old but a great doctor. I think he might be retired now

as

> I

> > > have been unable to locat him. His shots were the only allergy

> shots

> > > I ever had that actually did not make me worse.

> > > But anyway, here is a sheet I found on this last move that he

> gave me

> > > many years ago.

> > >

> > > Foods To Avoid if Sensitive to Mold or Fungi:

> > >

> > > Cheese of all kinds, including cottage cheess.

> > >

> > > Sour Cream; sour milk and butter milk, if old.

> > >

> > > Vinegar and vinegar containing food such as mayonnaise and

other

> > > salad dressinss, catsup. chilli sauce, pickles, pickled beets,

> > > relishes and green olives, prepared mustards, pickled and

smoked

> > > meats and fish, including delicatessen foods, especially

> sausages,

> > > frankfurters, corn beef, and pickle tongue, lunchen meats,

> coldcuts.

> > >

> > > *Substitue lemon juice for vinegar.

> > >

> > > Sour Breads such as pumpernickel, coffee cakes and other foods

> made

> > > with large amounts of yeast.

> > >

> > > Sauerkraut

> > >

> > > Cider and homemade root beer.

> > >

> > > Mushrooms

> > >

> > > All dried fruits such as apricots, dates, prumes, figs and

raiins.

> > >

> > > Commercially canned tomatoes and all canned juices.

> > >

> > > Eat only freshly opened home canned foods.

> > >

> > > Do not eat meat or fish more than 24 hours old. Avoid foods if

> made

> > > from left overs such as meat loaf, hash, amd croquettes. Avoid

> > > hamburger unless made from freshly ground meat.

> > >

> > > After being free of symptons for atlease 6 to 12 months and

it's

> out

> > > of season, the above items can be added occassionaly to the

diet

> one

> > > at a time, to determine if symptoms are thereby produce.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

This was 25 years ago. he was a board certified allergist. I don't

think there were enviromental doctors around here back then, at lease

not here in Anderons SC but that doctor was in Greenville SC. He

recommended vitamin suppliments too and that alone was unusual back

then. Now that I have been thinking about this, I started getting

bad allergies back then because I was living in a house that had been

remodeled from a fire. I had no idea then that was the problem but

now I am learning more, I am pretty sure the house is what made me

sick. The firemen had to use water to put the fire out so it was most

likely ate up with mold. I thought having my first son made me get

allergies back then by lowering my immune. It is no telling how much

mold I have been exposed to in my life in some of the places I have

lived. The doc never asked about my home that I can remember. It

was just too long ago to remember much.

>

> " Since, I have been to 3 different doctors and all of the allergy

shots

> make me sicker than dealing with the allergies. I sure wish I knew

what

> made his shots different. "

>

[Guest guest]

Rhonda, It is said that vegetables and fruits used for juices are

riper than vegetables and fruits that go to market to be purchased

whole and fresh and some are soft (getting moldy). It is time

consuming I know but if you had a good blender or juicer and make

enough for a day or two from fresh, that is recommended, rather than

purchasing these since you would be buying fruit and veggies that you

can see are not moldy. This is very hard when fatigue is a big issue

I know.

>

> What about vegetable juice. I love V8 and tomato juice and I can't

> give that up.

[Guest guest]

I too used to love V8 and tomato juice, however, if you have any

fibromyalgia symptoms, then you might benefit from dropping nightshades

(tomatoes, potatoes, peppers and eggplant) from your diet as they are

known to contribute to the achiness. My aches and pains diminished

significantly when I removed these from my diet. And, yes, it's hard

as I love all these things, but then I also like not hurting from head

to toe when I get out of bed in the morning.

B.

>

> What about vegetable juice. I love V8 and tomato juice and I can't

> give that up.

[Guest guest]

I believe motzarella is okay also, as well as cottage cheese, feta,

and riccota...but also check with other source of information. I

think these are all 'fresh' cheeses and not aged (molded).

--- In , " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...>

wrote:

>

> Gouda cheese from bacterial culture is rather than mold seems to be

> okay for me. It is sometimes hard to find but the info will be on

the

> label.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

>

[Guest guest]

The information I listed was from an allergist. The foods were for

those who tested postive for a mold or fungi allergy. I can eat some

of those foods every now and then but not always.

> >

> > Gouda cheese from bacterial culture is rather than mold seems to be

> > okay for me. It is sometimes hard to find but the info will be on

> the

> > label.

> >

> > Carl Grimes

> > Healthy Habitats LLC

> >

> >

>