Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Darlene, What that means, assuming that you have good ventilation in your bathroom - (you did make sure of that first, right?) and that you have probably already tried a million times to scrub it off but it keeps coming back.. is that its quite possible that the tiles were not installed properly, they are probably laid right over sheetrock without the right kind of backing - they need to breathe - check your local building code - and yes, that is quite possibly mold growing between the tiles from behind because the sheetrock behind them is laden with mold. If it is making you sick, you need to get out of there.. seriously.. Document the situation.. the worst mold is probably inside the wall behind the tile.. You need to have a third party take samples and they (not you) should then send them in with a chain of custody form and a check to a good lab. If the mold turns out to be a toxinogenic kind, you (well, they) should also do mycotoxin testing.. Good luck! On 2/6/07, darlenesb2000 <darlenesb2000@...> wrote: > > I thought I was seeing things. I have black spots coming through my > tiles on the wall behind the tub. I knew that I had the mold around > the caulking of the tub for a long time, but now am seeing black > coming through the shower tiled wall. I am an end apartment, so no > one is on either side of me. The original molds were found by the > mycologist in the cabinets and the HVAC systems supply and return > ducts. My question is: I am seeing black, so I am assuming that it is > mold that I am seeing come out of my tiled wall on the back side of > the tub. Is this also a dangerous mold? I know that other tenants > say it is mold on their tiles. Darlene > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Penicillium and Aspergillus are usually the first two molds that grow with water intrusion. Usually if you have one of these growing you have the other. They are both produce mycotoxins and yes dangerous. You do not want any type of mold growing in your home and HVAC. Thre are many types of toxic molds. Only the correct testing will identify genus and species of mold but as I was told last year, any mold you have needs to be removed period! You can't really tell by color the genus or species. I'll let other post more. Sounds like you will need to have some remediation work done and it needs to be done correct also to not spread the spores and mycotoxins all over the place. I bet behind those bathroom tiles will be very bad if it's coming thru them. Was anything done to remediate the HVAC and ducts yet? My HVAC was contaminated also and I had to do some major remediating to correct a damp crawl space and replace the hvac/ducts and detox everything in my house that I could. You can see pics under the photos on this group, Rhonda's pics. Are you or anyone in that apartment complex showing symptoms from mold illness? Did the mycologist identify the mold? When you say cabinets, are talking about kitchen cabinets or bathroom or both? Have you thought about moving out of that apartment? Rhonda > > I thought I was seeing things. I have black spots coming through my > tiles on the wall behind the tub. I knew that I had the mold around > the caulking of the tub for a long time, but now am seeing black > coming through the shower tiled wall. I am an end apartment, so no > one is on either side of me. The original molds were found by the > mycologist in the cabinets and the HVAC systems supply and return > ducts. My question is: I am seeing black, so I am assuming that it is > mold that I am seeing come out of my tiled wall on the back side of > the tub. Is this also a dangerous mold? I know that other tenants > say it is mold on their tiles. Darlene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Thank you LiveSimply for replying to my post. I was told that the ventilation in the bathroom was up to code. Yes, I have tried over and over to scrub the tiles, and around the tub, it comes back all the time. Of course I wear my mask and gloves to protect myself due to my allergies and illnesses from the molds found in my HVAC system. When the mycologist came in to do the testing in my apartment, I was so concerned with the HVAC system, and other areas that I forgot to mention the tub and tiles. Yes more testing will have to be completed to see what molds/mycotoxins I am dealing regarding the tiles, and tub. There are molds in the bathroom venting system also. Yes, I am actively searching out new housing with some help, but no luck to date. Darlene LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote: Darlene, What that means, assuming that you have good ventilation in your bathroom - (you did make sure of that first, right?) and that you have probably already tried a million times to scrub it off but it keeps coming back.. is that its quite possible that the tiles were not installed properly, they are probably laid right over sheetrock without the right kind of backing - they need to breathe - check your local building code - and yes, that is quite possibly mold growing between the tiles from behind because the sheetrock behind them is laden with mold. If it is making you sick, you need to get out of there.. seriously.. Document the situation.. the worst mold is probably inside the wall behind the tile.. You need to have a third party take samples and they (not you) should then send them in with a chain of custody form and a check to a good lab. If the mold turns out to be a toxinogenic kind, you (well, they) should also do mycotoxin testing.. Good luck! On 2/6/07, darlenesb2000 <darlenesb2000@...> wrote: > > I thought I was seeing things. I have black spots coming through my > tiles on the wall behind the tub. I knew that I had the mold around > the caulking of the tub for a long time, but now am seeing black > coming through the shower tiled wall. I am an end apartment, so no > one is on either side of me. The original molds were found by the > mycologist in the cabinets and the HVAC systems supply and return > ducts. My question is: I am seeing black, so I am assuming that it is > mold that I am seeing come out of my tiled wall on the back side of > the tub. Is this also a dangerous mold? I know that other tenants > say it is mold on their tiles. Darlene > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 That is a Joke what the maitenance guy did and I bet he didn't wear protective gear and respirator either. He just made toxins fly all over the place including right in his lungs. Do get out of there ASAP if you can and you know you will have to detox everything you own. I still have a few things left I need to do and been a year since remediation. Nobody helped me physically do any of this detoxing either. I'm glad I found this group last year b/c without them I'd be totally insane and everyone has helped with all your post and still helping. So does that mean the airhandler was not replaced? Actually, sounds like the apartment complex needs to be gutted and decontaminated and rebuilt. So many buildings/housing are contaminated it is a major crisis that is being ignored. I hope the future will change soon about this and more people/physicicans educated about toxic mold and what it can do. Rhonda > > > > I thought I was seeing things. I have black spots coming through my > > tiles on the wall behind the tub. I knew that I had the mold around > > the caulking of the tub for a long time, but now am seeing black > > coming through the shower tiled wall. I am an end apartment, so no > > one is on either side of me. The original molds were found by the > > mycologist in the cabinets and the HVAC systems supply and return > > ducts. My question is: I am seeing black, so I am assuming that it is > > mold that I am seeing come out of my tiled wall on the back side of > > the tub. Is this also a dangerous mold? I know that other tenants > > say it is mold on their tiles. Darlene > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > Let FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 I wish Darlene could move but she does not have anywhere to go. I wish we could all pull together and build us a mold free commune, you know, like hippies use to have! > > > > > > I thought I was seeing things. I have black spots coming > through my > > > tiles on the wall behind the tub. I knew that I had the mold > around > > > the caulking of the tub for a long time, but now am seeing black > > > coming through the shower tiled wall. I am an end apartment, so > no > > > one is on either side of me. The original molds were found by > the > > > mycologist in the cabinets and the HVAC systems supply and return > > > ducts. My question is: I am seeing black, so I am assuming that > it is > > > mold that I am seeing come out of my tiled wall on the back side > of > > > the tub. Is this also a dangerous mold? I know that other > tenants > > > say it is mold on their tiles. Darlene > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > > Let FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find > flight and hotel bargains. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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