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Hi,

I haven't posted for a long time, and I need a review of some mold info.

1st, I've had ME for over 20 years, MCS, Neuro/CNS complications, Cardiomyopathy

(Diastolic Heart Dysfunction, now being found in ME/CFS patients by Dr.s

Peckerman and Dr. Cheney.) Have Ciguatera Toxin Epitope in blood, Lactate spikes

in brain, (This indicates mitochondria malfunction, and found in high percent of

PWCMEs tested), " right hemisphere impairment " on neuro-psych test. *Maybe*

mercury issues. (meaning, plenty of reason to feel ill, toxic, brain impaired,

besides mold).

Due to a friend's mold illness long ago, I practiced Mold Avoidance for many

years, before and since the rest of my DX.

HOWEVER, since mold's increasing everywhere, this has become more difficult.

AND, I am stuck in Low Income Housing and getting scared about my apartment. It

was new when I moved in 14 years ago. I *think* there was a leak early on and

bathroom wall may have been taken apart to fix it.

Other sub standard construction has been revealed and the buildings still look

good but are deteriorating. Meaning balconies are rotting, for instance. I asked

someone building a new one if he found mold and he said no. That's hard to

understand.

There also are problems with the way the corners of the building got put

together. Mgr told me this would allow moisture into walls.

Outside, there is mold many places...the concrete, porch and outdoor furniture,

the sidewalk, the bannister of the stairs to apt above me.

Alot of dirt, trees, leaves around bldg.

Inside, I see just a little mold around bathtub and it gets on any shower

curtain.

YEars ago, some got on bedroom window sill, but does not seem to return.

My problem is I think I SMELL it here...inside and outside.

And feeling sicker. Could be relapse or progression of the other known

conditions.

I suspect mold is causing/contributing to this phase. Includes extra brain toxic

feeling, depression not felt for years, and worse CNS sx.

Have never felt ill from outdoor air, but wondering here/now..

Question is...how can I measure mold presence? Even at basic, overall invisible

level, and then which kind?

Please don't " diagnose me " as having mold illness from the beginning. That will

not be helpful, no matter your experience. This will distract me and P... me

off.

I DO have concerns about it here and now, and need to know how to assess this

environment. (And know that all these conditions interact synergistically, once

any have struck).

I think I recall the dishes you can send for to measure aren't helpful? IS there

any simple measuring I can do myself?

Is there a basis you know of for asking management for professional assessment?

Management co/ is in process of finding 4 Million dollars for Complex's repair

needs. There is maybe some HUD connection, and I wonder if that gives me any

legal standing for testing.

I know you can tear out walls and carpets to check. But is there a way to check

otherwise...the air?

What, if anything does the outdoor mold indicate? Would it be the same as

indoors? Are some sickened by outdoor mold that is not indoors? Does it

automatically get indoors? What can you do about outdoor mold? (I can't close

windows due to MCS).

Also, sorry, I forgot...what is current opinion on air cleaner, or others to

clear mold?

And, just for good measure, have you guys come to any consensus for best laundry

method of mold removal? I remember several methods discussed before.

Assume discarding the kit and kaboodle are preferred method.

I definitely now have old furniture, old carpet, etc.

Trying to address that.

Don't know about the rest...books, etc. Wishing for the strength,energy and

discipline to lesson the load.

What things can be placed around home while I figure this out ie: tea tree oil?

Lavender, or other? Zeolite, or ??

Hope you don't mind all of the questions. I realise jury may not be out on some,

but any feedback on these matters appreciated.

Can not leave at this time...must identify what's happening here, then proceed

with a plan.

Thanks,

Katrina

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Only speaking from my own experience, yes, I have several times

gotten sick from outdoor exposures where something I breath in causes

reacuring lung infection, with and without sinus infection and other

infections in my body.

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I haven't posted for a long time, and I need a review of some mold

info.

>

> 1st, I've had ME for over 20 years, MCS, Neuro/CNS complications,

Cardiomyopathy (Diastolic Heart Dysfunction, now being found in

ME/CFS patients by Dr.s Peckerman and Dr. Cheney.) Have Ciguatera

Toxin Epitope in blood, Lactate spikes in brain, (This indicates

mitochondria malfunction, and found in high percent of PWCMEs

tested), " right hemisphere impairment " on neuro-psych test. *Maybe*

mercury issues. (meaning, plenty of reason to feel ill, toxic, brain

impaired, besides mold).

>

> Due to a friend's mold illness long ago, I practiced Mold Avoidance

for many years, before and since the rest of my DX.

>

> HOWEVER, since mold's increasing everywhere, this has become more

difficult.

>

> AND, I am stuck in Low Income Housing and getting scared about my

apartment. It was new when I moved in 14 years ago. I *think* there

was a leak early on and bathroom wall may have been taken apart to

fix it.

>

> Other sub standard construction has been revealed and the buildings

still look good but are deteriorating. Meaning balconies are rotting,

for instance. I asked someone building a new one if he found mold and

he said no. That's hard to understand.

>

> There also are problems with the way the corners of the building

got put together. Mgr told me this would allow moisture into walls.

>

> Outside, there is mold many places...the concrete, porch and

outdoor furniture, the sidewalk, the bannister of the stairs to apt

above me.

>

> Alot of dirt, trees, leaves around bldg.

>

> Inside, I see just a little mold around bathtub and it gets on any

shower curtain.

>

> YEars ago, some got on bedroom window sill, but does not seem to

return.

>

> My problem is I think I SMELL it here...inside and outside.

> And feeling sicker. Could be relapse or progression of the other

known conditions.

>

> I suspect mold is causing/contributing to this phase. Includes

extra brain toxic feeling, depression not felt for years, and worse

CNS sx.

>

> Have never felt ill from outdoor air, but wondering here/now..

>

> Question is...how can I measure mold presence? Even at basic,

overall invisible level, and then which kind?

>

> Please don't " diagnose me " as having mold illness from the

beginning. That will not be helpful, no matter your experience. This

will distract me and P... me off.

> I DO have concerns about it here and now, and need to know how to

assess this environment. (And know that all these conditions interact

synergistically, once any have struck).

>

> I think I recall the dishes you can send for to measure aren't

helpful? IS there any simple measuring I can do myself?

>

> Is there a basis you know of for asking management for professional

assessment?

>

> Management co/ is in process of finding 4 Million dollars for

Complex's repair needs. There is maybe some HUD connection, and I

wonder if that gives me any legal standing for testing.

>

> I know you can tear out walls and carpets to check. But is there a

way to check otherwise...the air?

>

> What, if anything does the outdoor mold indicate? Would it be the

same as indoors? Are some sickened by outdoor mold that is not

indoors? Does it automatically get indoors? What can you do about

outdoor mold? (I can't close windows due to MCS).

>

> Also, sorry, I forgot...what is current opinion on air cleaner, or

others to clear mold?

>

> And, just for good measure, have you guys come to any consensus for

best laundry method of mold removal? I remember several methods

discussed before.

> Assume discarding the kit and kaboodle are preferred method.

>

> I definitely now have old furniture, old carpet, etc.

> Trying to address that.

>

> Don't know about the rest...books, etc. Wishing for the

strength,energy and discipline to lesson the load.

>

> What things can be placed around home while I figure this out ie:

tea tree oil? Lavender, or other? Zeolite, or ??

>

> Hope you don't mind all of the questions. I realise jury may not be

out on some, but any feedback on these matters appreciated.

>

> Can not leave at this time...must identify what's happening here,

then proceed with a plan.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Katrina

>

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