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Hi Barb,

I take Carlson's brand of Cod Liver Oil and then in the spring-fall

I'll do a mix of Cod Liver Oil and their Fish Oil. They're Lemon

flavored. It would be hard for me to take the same quantity in

capsules - I think I figured one time to get the equivalent, I would

need to take 8 of the large capsules at a time. While on CSM 4x/day,

I took the fish oil (2-3 tbsp/dose) 3x/day. I take the Cod Liver Oil

to get the A & D vitamins.

I would imagine your C4A might well have come down since you're not

in your home anymore. Do you feel any better overall? The curious

thing for me is that I honestly didn't feel significantly better when

mine came down, BUT that might be because I was still in toxic house

and still getting daily hits. I actually should have my labs rerun

sometime soon just to see the overall impact of my move.

It is difficult to take so many supplements, BUT they make a world of

difference in whether I can get through the day or not. I bought some

vitamin storage trays and I sit down for 1-2 hours every few weeks

and fill up these trays with what I take each time during the day (I

take supplements 6x/day). That's the only way it's manageable for me.

Indeed, it is very overwhelming the myriad of things that we need to

do to function and yes, the costs add up insanely, so you do have to

balance your alternatives. At some point, I would love to reduce the

amount of supplements I take and all the things I do for detox, but

everytime I stop something, I degrade. And, I don't always notice it

at first, as it's quite gradual (before I get a nice big crash and

then have to work my way back out of the hole). I think that may be

why you don't notice the difference with supplements, as the impacts

can be quite subtle and take much longer before you can see an

overall positive effect. And, of course, we're each different and

have different needs, but I will say that the supplements that have

helped me the most are the fish oil, B vitamins (including sublingual

and transdermal B12 - some folks do injections), magnesium, adrenal

supplements (this is a long list including glandulars and herbs),

cat's claw (for my lyme - it's an immune system adaptogen), venus fly

trap (for my lyme), grapefruit seed extract and a good multi-

vitamin. If I go a day without these, I can't function. Even when I

reach a point where I feel I'm doing well overall on a regular basis,

I'll still keep the fish oil (hopefully a lower dose), B vitamins,

magnesium (that really helps my TMJ) and multi on a daily basis. And,

I will keep taking Rhodiola when I know I'll be under alot of stress

(like week long meetings) as it works so incredibly well for me.

Also, for alot of my herbals, I will rotate on and off them

periodically, as I think your body stops getting a positive impact

over time.

In the end, every little bit that you can do should help. You might

try just taking a high potency daily multi-vitamin at a minimum

(something with minerals such as selenium, zinc, manganese,

germanium, molybdenum etc. as they're often low in toxic folks and

actually are important for detoxification) and see if you don't feel

better overall after a month or so.

I am curious though, how long you feel well after hyperbaric and do

you take any medications while doing that? I ask because it is an

alternative Lyme treatment and my understanding was that it helped to

increase the perfusion of the antibiotics. So, I'm just curious if

you do it to increase the oxygen or to optimize a particular drug

treatment?

Be well,

B

>

> What kind of fish oil did you take ? My c4a was close to 6000

the

> only time I tested, 5887. Dr Shoemaker wanted to rerun it and sent

me

> an Rx for that but it is so expensive and I don't feel better so I

> haven't retested yet. I have some salmon fish oil tablets I have

not

> been taking so ran and took one now! I take things for awhile and

I

> don't feel any better, so I stop taking them. I stopped buying

> supplements since I'm so inconsistent about taking them and so I

have

> the money for hyperbarics. So many different things recommended

that

> sometimes I feel overwhelmed and don't take anything. My

alternative

> doc recommended I do Vit C flushes for inflamation which I do think

> helps me. I will do this for a day or so when I'm having a bad

> spell.

>

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