Re: 'Reframing' the debate on mold to illustrate the toxic mold tolerance budget

[Guest guest]

Your idea makes sense. People always say, " But mold is everywhere,

you can't avoid it. " This is their way of discounting the impact of

what I have come to call " extreme exposure. " Sure it's everywhere,

but not in the huge quantities that those in this group have been

exposed to 24/7 for years.

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--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> I think the whole 'frame' of being 'sensitive to mold' is a way that

> the powers that be cover up how toxic it is to everybody.

>

> Instead, I think what we should do is try to explain that we each

have

> an ability to tolerate mold that can get taken away, but it can also

> be budgeted well by living healthily and safely.

>

> That way, people won't use up their " toxic mold tolerance budget " in

> their youth..

>

> Its all about framing. Here is an article on framing..

> http://www.prospect.org/print/V14/4/mooney-c.html

>

> What do people think about positive frames to get across the idea

that

> we CAN do it and make it so people don't get sick because of

people's

> greedy taking of all of their " toxic mold tolerance budget "

>

[Guest guest]

Plus indoor molds are more toxic than most outside molds.

> >

> > I think the whole 'frame' of being 'sensitive to mold' is a way

that

> > the powers that be cover up how toxic it is to everybody.

> >

> > Instead, I think what we should do is try to explain that we each

> have

> > an ability to tolerate mold that can get taken away, but it can

also

> > be budgeted well by living healthily and safely.

> >

> > That way, people won't use up their " toxic mold tolerance budget "

in

> > their youth..

> >

> > Its all about framing. Here is an article on framing..

> > http://www.prospect.org/print/V14/4/mooney-c.html

> >

> > What do people think about positive frames to get across the idea

> that

> > we CAN do it and make it so people don't get sick because of

> people's

> > greedy taking of all of their " toxic mold tolerance budget "

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I don't see how this would work. mainly for the same reason a dose

responce has not been established. with some of these toxic molds any

exposure could be deadly to some people even at low amounts. we are

not equal in our limits.age,overall health and even a weaker organ

here or there can make a big difference. the people that are getting

rich off of mold/myco's used in thier products obviously don't give a

crap about weather they make people ill, or cause molds/myco's to

increase in our world and mutate into even more types and more toxic

types. if this would have happened about 35 years ago along with

other regulations on many toxins we might not be in the shape we are

in now.I'm thinking it was 1945 when MCS was first documented and put

off as a psychological problem. how different our word might be today

if someone would have taken it more serious.---

In

, " smarshwar " <smarshwar@...> wrote:

>

> Your idea makes sense. People always say, " But mold is everywhere,

> you can't avoid it. " This is their way of discounting the impact of

> what I have come to call " extreme exposure. " Sure it's everywhere,

> but not in the huge quantities that those in this group have been

> exposed to 24/7 for years.

>

> -

>

>

[Guest guest]

No, I wasn't saying that toxic mold poisoning should continue to be

permitted, like it is now.. I was trying to get across that we need to

impress upon people that the poisoners are STEALING something from each of

us that we need for our day to day lives, our lifetime budget of mold

tolerance.. and that once yours is used up, you find it very hard to exist

in even normal situations for example, for me, I almost can't go shopping

without getting sick.. (although grocery stores seem to be much better than

department stores for some reason..)

If I stay at home, I know what to do to avoid getting sick.. (avoid

rummaging through my old stuff..mostly) but if I go out, I get slammed

unexpectedly all the time and then I need to go... Its a real downer...

I have not been able to work yet but when I do, its going to a nightmare

dealing with this unless I have a VERY understanding employer.. seriously..

They do NOT understand things like that AT ALL..