Guest guest Posted December 31, 1998 Report Share Posted December 31, 1998 Good point.... Dan Watkins Jr. EMT-B Texas Instruments Emergency Response Team Coordinator South Building Ph: Pgr: Fax: d-watkins1@... [] Re: EMT Pay >Dear MRS toni6, > >I have a clearer understanding of where you are coming from, now that I have >read your last 4 posts. You generally hate Texas, EMS in Texas, and that >alone makes it very difficult to enjoy life as we know it here. Having no >background in hate, I will get off the bandwagon of why I think its a >wonderful state, with wonderful people in the business, and leave you out >there with those companies I mentioned earlier, that are here today and gone >tomorrow. I cannot complete with attitudes that dont believe in a better job >promise from a better city, whose employers are good to work for. I actually >thought you were looking for work and not a sounding board on wages, sorry >States (such as Texas), and I only hope you move on to better things. We all >know how you feel about this business so maybe we can also move on. > >Andy Foote, BEMS > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Classic Movies. Progressive Music. Political Humor. Pirate Radio. Sick >Jokes. Hundreds of expert human guides to lead you through thousands of topics. >Explore The Mining Co. http://offers./click/190/0 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 1998 Report Share Posted December 31, 1998 Toni, the pay shouldn't matter to you in the least bit, if you can make enough to support and your family with what is being offered ok, if not, understandable, but if you're in EMS to get super pay and get rich like a doctor or some high paid specialty nurse, you need to change fields because being a paramedic is not for you. you worry about 27-31K a year, where i work at the medics only get paid 7.50 to 8.00 an hour but make more then what you're looking because we get unlimited overtime, to me it's worth the work, but then again i got into EMS to help my patients, not to get rich, what about you? DOC ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 1998 Report Share Posted December 31, 1998 In a message dated 99-01-01 01:09:51 EST, you write: << Welcome to Texas. I hope your stay in our fair state will be enjoyable. Several questions come to mind while reading your post. Where did you earn $15.00 per hour as an EMT-B? Working 24/48 averages 56 hours per week. >> Well said,,,,,a 24/48 @ $15 per hr will yield slightly over $50k when you pay the required SCHEDULED overtime. (required by federal wage and hr) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 1998 Report Share Posted December 31, 1998 If I needed an ambulance I damn sure wouldn't want " Mrs. Toni " showing up on scene. She'd probably want to run my credit card first. Get a grip or go back to where you say it was so good. [] Re: EMT Pay Dear MRS toni6, I have a clearer understanding of where you are coming from, now that I have read your last 4 posts. You generally hate Texas, EMS in Texas, and that alone makes it very difficult to enjoy life as we know it here. Having no background in hate, I will get off the bandwagon of why I think its a wonderful state, with wonderful people in the business, and leave you out there with those companies I mentioned earlier, that are here today and gone tomorrow. I cannot complete with attitudes that dont believe in a better job promise from a better city, whose employers are good to work for. I actually thought you were looking for work and not a sounding board on wages, sorry States (such as Texas), and I only hope you move on to better things. We all know how you feel about this business so maybe we can also move on. Andy Foote, BEMS Classic Movies. Progressive Music. Political Humor. Pirate Radio. Sick Jokes. Hundreds of expert human guides to lead you through thousands of topics. Explore The Mining Co. http://home.miningco.com/arts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted December 31, 1998 Report Share Posted December 31, 1998 Welll Colleen, Its good that you can give away you skills and time...I love my chosen career and have never regretted any moment of it until I moved to Texas. And yes I have worked in many rural areas many of which would qualify to be called po dunk and hick towns on the east coast but they even paid better over 5 yrs ago than what is being offered here in my area. You can love any chosen career but if you can't provide for your family then their is a problem and that relationship and satisfaction of helping people is definately tainted. Self satisfaction won't pay my children's medical bills nor will it put food in my house or clothing on my back! It makes me very angry when I read about EMS personnel who have to drop medical coverage because they can't afford it and then have catastrophic illness or accident hit their family and they can't afford the medical bills. Or working three jobs to make a somewhat decent living!! Volunteering is great if you can afford to do that. Between volunteering and the huge population of transient personnel in a lot of areas, it has driven wages so low that its rediculous. An employer says well if you won't take that $6.00 hr thats OK cause I got 20 people that will and be happy as a clam about it. When the paid person quits and they find out they have a gun ho volunteer that can give away the labor of a full-time employee, why should they bother to hire!! Yes, I am considering all my alternatives until its time for me to move on not only from the state of Texas but central US completely.... All this just keeps reminding me why I left the US in the first place and never had a desire to move west. Toni This is in response to your hostile outbreak on Texas EMS, It sounds like all you are in it is for the money and not the self satisfaction of what EMS can give a person. This is a calling for me and I believe I would do it no matter what the pay. I work in Jasper County, and also I am a VOLUNTEER for Huntington First Responders. My pay has drop since AMR skipped town but I am Happy as a clam. I love my career and wouldn't change it or this po'dunk' state or towns as you call us. I think you should find other alternatives because I don't believe you would make it here in the field with all us po'dunk hicks Ya'll come back now ya hear!!!!!!!!!!!!. Colleen, ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 1998 Report Share Posted December 31, 1998 I got into EMS because I loved it. But so far since I moved to Texas I can't support my family on $6-7 hour when it was just making ends meet when I was at $14....so yes pay and benefits do matter. Do you have special needs children that require good benefits meaning good health insurance and wages so they can survive? If not, then you have not a clue. I knew when I entered this field like all other public servents that getting rich was not on the agenda, but I at least expected to be able to survice comfortabley and its not happening so far. I love helping people and its why I entered this field but before you can help others one must be able to help youself. toni the pay shouldn't matter to you in the least bit, if you can make enough to support and your family with what is being offered ok, if not, understandable, but if you're in EMS to get super pay and get rich like a doctor or some high paid specialty nurse, you need to change fields because being a paramedic is not for you. you worry about 27-31K a year, where i work at the medics only get paid 7.50 to 8.00 an hour but make more then what you're looking because we get unlimited overtime, to me it's worth the work, but then again i got into EMS to help my patients, not to get rich, what about you? DOC ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 1998 Report Share Posted December 31, 1998 Thank you very well put... Hey Y'all, = I have watched the dialogs re; payscales for the past several days. In ad= dition I have watched and read, the comments regarding unionization for vs.= collective bargaining. It is also with real interest I have read the prev= ailing views regarding the emplyee/employer relationship and who comes firs= t and who is disposable: I believe the quote is--- " Paramedics are a dime a = dozen and will hire and fire them every 90 days. " As president of a health care company, Universal Health Care Systems, Inc. = I can tel ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 1998 Report Share Posted December 31, 1998 Mrs Toni6, Welcome to Texas. I hope your stay in our fair state will be enjoyable. Several questions come to mind while reading your post. Where did you earn $15.00 per hour as an EMT-B? Working 24/48 averages 56 hours per week. 52 weeks X 56 hours =2912 hours annually. 2912 X $15 = $43,680 This does not include any overtime. Do you see where I am going? If the quoted numbers are accurate, you should run, not walk, to your vehicle so as to return from where you came. I can't imagine what a Paramedic could make there. I read Beaumont's numbers. Pretty good starting pay, even better benefits. Remember these numbers are starting pay. They are about even with the City of Paris EMS. I think we have a good package of compensation, benefits and a low cost of living. I wish all EMS professionals statewide could do as well. I know we all deserve it. Kent Klinkerman EMT-P **My opinions are my own.** AAAAAAAAAAAAAA A FOR ME TO KNOW wrote: Thank you for the information but I'm not interested in moving my family on a bunch of so called promises to Beaumont, Texas, where ever that is....no I am not from texas just got here via my military spouse. and by the way you may address me from now on as MRS. and $8.50 a month is squat when you are use to bing paid $11-15 as an EMT-B. Now I don't know what kind of work week you work but I'm use to 24/48. I feel like I invested a lot of time and money to finish my degree for what? To make less than I did as an EMT-B without a degree vs. a medic with a degree...but I couse I don't have two years experience as a medic so I wouldn't qualify for your service...not to mention I have been burned by the services with there 90 day wonders.. ..they keep you for 90 days and then decide they don't want you any more because we ARE a dime a dozen. As many others have stated...I will explore other avenues of employment which have far better saleries....and when the time comes for me to leave this po' dunk' town and move on I will reconsider EMS for employment at that time. toni ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Small Business Information. Management. Economics. Stocks. Mutual Funds. Financial Services. Hundreds of expert human guides to lead you through thousands of topics. Explore The Mining Co. http://offers./click/191/0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 1998 Report Share Posted December 31, 1998 Well (I know thats a deep subject) but I do believe we have beat the dead horse too many times(defiburaltion won't help) all this is driving me nuts can we talk about something else for a while. I'm not saying never bring it up again, just give it a rest. Thank You Colleen La Salle, EMT-I Gold Star EMS >From -return-1606-ten50major=hotmail.comreturns (DOT) Thu Dec 31 22:10:11 1998 >Received: (qmail 32741 invoked by uid 505); 1 Jan 1999 06:09:44 -0000 >Mailing-List: contact -owneregroups >Precedence: list >X-URL: /list// >X-Mailing-List: egroups >Reply-To: egroups >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-egroups >Received: (qmail 23678 invoked by uid 7770); 1 Jan 1999 06:09:47 -0000 >Received: from 1starnet.com (HELO mail.1starnet.com) (207.243.104.17) > by vault.findmail.com with SMTP; 1 Jan 1999 06:09:47 -0000 >Received: from 1starnet.com [207.243.104.150] by mail.1starnet.com with ESMTP > (SMTPD32-4.06) id A69C29E010C; Fri, 01 Jan 1999 00:09:32 CST >Message-ID: >Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 00:23:17 -0600 > >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: egroups >References: >Subject: [] Re: EMT Pay >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary= " ------------2666D0D964A90BFC4E519422 " >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Mrs Toni6, > >Welcome to Texas. I hope your stay in our fair state will be enjoyable. Several >questions come to mind while reading your post. > >Where did you earn $15.00 per hour as an EMT-B? >Working 24/48 averages 56 hours per week. >52 weeks X 56 hours =2912 hours annually. >2912 X $15 = $43,680 >This does not include any overtime. >Do you see where I am going? If the quoted numbers are accurate, you should run, not >walk, to your vehicle so as to return from where you came. I can't imagine what a >Paramedic could make there. > >I read Beaumont's numbers. Pretty good starting pay, even better benefits. Remember >these numbers are starting pay. They are about even with the City of Paris EMS. I >think we have a good package of compensation, benefits and a low cost of living. I >wish all EMS professionals statewide could do as well. I know we all deserve it. > >Kent Klinkerman >EMT-P >**My opinions are my own.** > > >AAAAAAAAAAAAAA A FOR ME TO KNOW wrote: > >> Thank you for the information but I'm not interested in moving my >> family on a bunch of so called promises to Beaumont, Texas, where >> ever that is....no I am not from texas just got here via my military >> spouse. and by the way you may address me from now on as MRS. >> >> and $8.50 a month is squat when you are use to bing paid $11-15 as an >> EMT-B. Now I don't know what kind of work week you work but I'm use >> to 24/48. I feel like I invested a lot of time and money to finish >> my degree for what? To make less than I did as an EMT-B without a >> degree vs. a medic with a degree...but I couse I don't have two years >> experience as a medic so I wouldn't qualify for your service...not to >> mention I have been burned by the services with there 90 day wonders.. >> .they keep you for 90 days and then decide they don't want you any >> more because we ARE a dime a dozen. As many others have stated...I >> will explore other avenues of employment which have far better >> saleries....and when the time comes for me to leave this po' dunk' >> town and move on I will reconsider EMS for employment at that time. >> >> toni >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Small Business Information. Management. Economics. Stocks. Mutual Funds. >> Financial Services. Hundreds of expert human guides to lead you through thousands >> of topics. Explore The Mining Co. http://offers./click/191/0 >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 1999 Report Share Posted January 1, 1999 Toni, Firefighters are Professionals at all aspects of their job. Not only at firefighting but also at being medic. FF/EMT-P IAFF Local 432 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 1999 Report Share Posted January 1, 1999 NEWS FLASH - You will not get rich working in EMS If you are unhappy with you job find another,maybe in another field. As a EMT-B you have a way of making more money buy getting your Paramedic Cert.If you choose not to do that then live on a EMT budget and get over it. Im a paramedic by my own free will,its not for the money but for the time or two where my team has saved a life.The friends I have made in EMS makes me rich in other ways.Its not about money.If it was then why do so many very good EMTS,and Paramedics do it for free? My 2 cents Thanks C.S. NREMT-P ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 1999 Report Share Posted January 1, 1999 In a message dated 1/1/99 9:58:49 AM Central Standard Time, Callen43@... writes: > NEWS FLASH - You will not get rich working in EMS > If you are unhappy with you job find another,maybe in another field. > As a EMT-B you have a way of making more money buy getting your Paramedic > Cert.>>> AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, That just about sums it up. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 1999 Report Share Posted January 1, 1999 In a message dated 1/1/99 11:03:19 AM Central Standard Time, jhoskins@... writes: > Computer jobs, and jobs where people have their Ph.D. are about the only > ones you will find that pay that & above. I see jobs in the paper all the > time where they require a bachelors degree, and pay less an hour than that. > I think it would be beneficial for you to go to your local Texas Workforce > Center, and check out some labor & wage statistics...... You won't find > those 15.00 an hour jobs. > > Toni6, hope you find that 15.00 an hour job this year, but I would not hold > my breath, because they are not out there. Welcome to Podunk, Texas..... we > hope you enjoy your stay in this good 'ol town..... > > Jay Hoskins > EMT Toni, If you want to make $15.00 per hour why not apply for the DFW Airport Department of Public Safety. Oh, I forgot. You don't like being a firefighter. I know you wouldn't like having to complete fire academy and then the police academy. I must have lost my head. To think that you would want to be a State Certified firefighter, police officer, and EMS provider,,,,,,,,,,,,I must have lost my head. I know you would think this was below your dignity. And anyway, with your attitude, I doubt if you could pass the oral interview board. Oh, well, maybe you should run to your car and return to where you made $15.00 as an EMT-B. SURE! , BS, EMT/P Corporal II DFW Airport DPS EMS Division ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 1999 Report Share Posted January 1, 1999 Good paying jobs are out there....just do some work to find them.... >Reply-To: egroups > >To: <egroups> >Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:01:46 -0600 >Subject: [] Re: EMT Pay > <table><tr><td><pre> I am really sick of hearing the same thing over & amp; over. Give me a break! Saying you may address me a MRS.......that is an attitude that needs to go (as well as the rest of the hateful postings.....this is getting too personal) $8.50 a month? I don't know of anyone that could live off of that....... I make less than that an hour (not by much), and I am not even an EMT that gets paid. I volunteer my time to help people. If you notice, I got the 8.50 a month from her posting below..... Kent was right, if you were making $15.00 an hour where you came from as an EMT, you need to run, not walk back to your vehicle. I don't know of many jobs except computer jobs & amp; factory jobs that pay that. My granddad was a welder in a unionized company, and was just making a little over 14.00...... even after 32 years service! Computer jobs, and jobs where people have their Ph.D. are about the only ones you will find that pay that & amp; above. I see jobs in the paper all the time where they require a bachelors degree, and pay less an hour than that. I think it would be beneficial for you to go to your local Texas Workforce Center, and check out some labor & amp; wage statistics...... You won't find those 15.00 an hour jobs. Toni6, hope you find that 15.00 an hour job this year, but I would not hold my breath, because they are not out there. Welcome to Podunk, Texas..... we hope you enjoy your stay in this good 'ol town..... Jay Hoskins EMT (My opinion is my own...............not that of anyone else or any organization.) ----Original Message----- From: AAAAAAAAAAAAAA A FOR ME TO KNOW & lt;Toni6@... & gt; To: egroups & lt;egroups & gt; Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 10:45 AM Subject: [] Re: EMT Pay Thank you for the information but I'm not interested in moving my family on a bunch of so called promises to Beaumont, Texas, where ever that is....no I am not from texas just got here via my military spouse. and by the way you may address me from now on as MRS. and $8.50 a month is squat when you are use to bing paid $11-15 as an EMT-B. Now I don't know what kind of work week you work but I'm use to 24/48. I feel like I invested a lot of time and money to finish my degree for what? To make less than I did as an EMT-B without a degree vs. a medic with a degree...but I couse I don't have two years experience as a medic so I wouldn't qualify for your service...not to mention I have been burned by the services with there 90 day wonders.. ..they keep you for 90 days and then decide they don't want you any more because we ARE a dime a dozen. As many others have stated...I will explore other avenues of employment which have far better saleries....and when the time comes for me to leave this po' dunk' town and move on I will reconsider EMS for employment at that time. toni ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Small Business Information. Management. Economics. Stocks. Mutual Funds. Financial Services. Hundreds of expert human guides to lead you through thousands of topics. Explore The Mining Co. http://home.miningco.com/business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 1999 Report Share Posted January 1, 1999 In a message dated 99-01-01 16:18:17 EST, you write: << Good paying jobs are out there....just do some work to find them.... >> and sometimes, you have to work yourself up to them. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 1999 Report Share Posted January 1, 1999 I am really sick of hearing the same thing over & over. Give me a break! Saying you may address me a MRS.......that is an attitude that needs to go (as well as the rest of the hateful postings.....this is getting too personal) $8.50 a month? I don't know of anyone that could live off of that....... I make less than that an hour (not by much), and I am not even an EMT that gets paid. I volunteer my time to help people. If you notice, I got the 8.50 a month from her posting below..... Kent was right, if you were making $15.00 an hour where you came from as an EMT, you need to run, not walk back to your vehicle. I don't know of many jobs except computer jobs & factory jobs that pay that. My granddad was a welder in a unionized company, and was just making a little over 14.00...... even after 32 years service! Computer jobs, and jobs where people have their Ph.D. are about the only ones you will find that pay that & above. I see jobs in the paper all the time where they require a bachelors degree, and pay less an hour than that. I think it would be beneficial for you to go to your local Texas Workforce Center, and check out some labor & wage statistics...... You won't find those 15.00 an hour jobs. Toni6, hope you find that 15.00 an hour job this year, but I would not hold my breath, because they are not out there. Welcome to Podunk, Texas..... we hope you enjoy your stay in this good 'ol town..... Jay Hoskins EMT (My opinion is my own...............not that of anyone else or any organization.) ----Original Message----- To: egroups <egroups> Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 10:45 AM Subject: [] Re: EMT Pay Thank you for the information but I'm not interested in moving my family on a bunch of so called promises to Beaumont, Texas, where ever that is....no I am not from texas just got here via my military spouse. and by the way you may address me from now on as MRS. and $8.50 a month is squat when you are use to bing paid $11-15 as an EMT-B. Now I don't know what kind of work week you work but I'm use to 24/48. I feel like I invested a lot of time and money to finish my degree for what? To make less than I did as an EMT-B without a degree vs. a medic with a degree...but I couse I don't have two years experience as a medic so I wouldn't qualify for your service...not to mention I have been burned by the services with there 90 day wonders.. ..they keep you for 90 days and then decide they don't want you any more because we ARE a dime a dozen. As many others have stated...I will explore other avenues of employment which have far better saleries....and when the time comes for me to leave this po' dunk' town and move on I will reconsider EMS for employment at that time. toni ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Small Business Information. Management. Economics. Stocks. Mutual Funds. Financial Services. Hundreds of expert human guides to lead you through thousands of topics. Explore The Mining Co. http://home.miningco.com/business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 1999 Report Share Posted January 1, 1999 Well actually there is a sevice that does operate in that fashion and no, I do not work nor would I work for them,...they are called paramedic's plus and I have experienced there customer service first hand!!! toni If I needed an ambulance I damn sure wouldn't want " Mrs. Toni " showing up o= n scene. She'd probably want to run my credit card first. Get a grip or go = back to where you say it was so good. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 1999 Report Share Posted January 1, 1999 South pacific, Hawaii, gaum, and Asia. and you are acutally just about right on the make of my last years salery before I moved here... toni Mrs Toni6, Welcome to Texas. I hope your stay in our fair state will be enjoyable. Several questions come to mind while reading your post. Where did you earn $15.00 per hour as an EMT-B? Working 24/48 averages 56 hours per week. 52 weeks X 56 hours =2912 hours annually. 2912 X $15 = $43,680 This does not include any overtime. Do you see where I am going? If the quoted numbers are accurate, you should run, not walk, to your vehicle so as to return from where you came. I can't imagine what a Paramedic could make there. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 1999 Report Share Posted January 1, 1999 Yes I they are but when you have ridden with these people and they complain about one or the other aspect of there job and how much they hate it. Its makes you wonder about the quality of there work(ei. FF/pt. care). I have a lot of respect for Firefighters but its not for me and I won't just do to get a JOB. I would dangerous to myself and all those that depend on my doing a good job. This is my dissatifaction with combined FF/EMS. Now, yes, I have run into many that enjoy both aspects of there job and do an excellent job.....but after listening to all the students in the last paramedic class at the local community college...most of the ones that worked under combined FF/EMS depts. were only there cause there jobs sent them and they had to do it to keep there jobs. When asked about there long term goals....to go to a larger fire dept. and stay away from EMS which they hate!!! Number one complaint was lack of sleep at night when on the box and interupted meals!!! I was completely shocked with this response.....I initial reaction was, " god, I hope I never need EMS or Fire! I might get one that really hates his job and will do only what they HAVE to do.. " Now, I know we are all not the same but in this area this attitude is rappent and the turn over is really high. toni Firefighters are Professionals at all aspects of their job. Not only at firefighting but also at being medic. FF/EMT-P IAFF Local 432 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 1999 Report Share Posted January 4, 1999 joe- starting hourly rate at our service is 8.50. i make a bit more than that, that is how i came up with 40k. >From -return-1705-zafir33=hotmail.comreturns (DOT) Mon Jan 4 11:54:27 1999 >Received: (qmail 14687 invoked by uid 505); 4 Jan 1999 19:52:05 -0000 >Mailing-List: contact -owneregroups >Precedence: list >X-URL: /list// >X-Mailing-List: egroups >Reply-To: egroups >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-egroups >Received: (qmail 25043 invoked by uid 7770); 4 Jan 1999 19:38:17 -0000 >Received: from host.corridor.net (204.96.161.2) > by vault.findmail.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 1999 19:38:17 -0000 >Received: from [204.96.161.236] by host.corridor.net (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id qa602592 for <egroups>; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:38:20 -0600 > >To: <egroups> >Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:36:56 -0600 >Message-ID: <01be3819$96e54be0$eca160cc@dayroom> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 >Subject: [] Re: EMT Pay >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary= " ----=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE37E7.4C4ADBE0 " >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Fudge factors to figure your annual base pay: > >If you work 24/48 (56 hr./wk. average-O.T. over 40) multiply your hourly r= >ate by 3328. = > >If you work 40 hrs./wk. multiply your hourly rate by 2080. = > >If you work 24/48 (O.T. over 56/wk.) you work for the fire dept. and are pr= >obably union and I have no fudge factor for that base pay. > >I have no idea how anybody could come up with a base rate near 40K with $8.= >50/hr. $28.8K is right on the money (no pun intended). = > > >(If you are new and haven't gotten a W2 form in your EMS career I don't re= >commend figuring your base pay. You may have a sudden desire to move to th= >e east coast where I hear the pay is better.) > >Hope this helps > > >Joe K. Overstreet >San Marcos > [] Re: EMT Pay >> > >> > >> > At 00:06 12/25/98 -0600, you wrote: >> > >Adam please dont ask what we make......... >> > >For what I'v seen and know, Austin's got us all beat(the = > >whole >>state,im >> > >willing to bet).Plus yall have the top EMS = > >units,equipment,protocols, >> > >training,and great overtime pay too. I would love to work = > >there = > >but >>only >> > >one problem, one would be headed to burnout city rather quick = > >I >>believe. >> > >Im sure the pay is all great but Austin sure gets the most = > >out = > >there >> > >street medics.(work wise) Also I keep seeing for the past = > >year = > >and a >> > >half, yall saying ILS enroute to converting to full = > >paramedics = > >at all >> > >times. So why has it not happened yet? >> > > >> > > Vasquez, EMT-P >> > >Eldorado EMS >> > > >> > > >> > >>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- >> > >Leave the web behind and enter the magic world of Disney >> > >Loads of games, activities, and all your favorite characters = > >in = > >one >>place >> > >http://ads./click/133/6 >> > > >> > >E-group home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/ >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 1999 Report Share Posted January 4, 1999 joe- starting hourly rate at our service is 8.50. i make a bit more than that, that is how i came up with 40k. >From -return-1705-zafir33=hotmail.comreturns (DOT) Mon Jan 4 11:54:27 1999 >Received: (qmail 14687 invoked by uid 505); 4 Jan 1999 19:52:05 -0000 >Mailing-List: contact -owneregroups >Precedence: list >X-URL: /list// >X-Mailing-List: egroups >Reply-To: egroups >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-egroups >Received: (qmail 25043 invoked by uid 7770); 4 Jan 1999 19:38:17 -0000 >Received: from host.corridor.net (204.96.161.2) > by vault.findmail.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 1999 19:38:17 -0000 >Received: from [204.96.161.236] by host.corridor.net (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id qa602592 for <egroups>; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:38:20 -0600 > >To: <egroups> >Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:36:56 -0600 >Message-ID: <01be3819$96e54be0$eca160cc@dayroom> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 >Subject: [] Re: EMT Pay >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary= " ----=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE37E7.4C4ADBE0 " >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Fudge factors to figure your annual base pay: > >If you work 24/48 (56 hr./wk. average-O.T. over 40) multiply your hourly r= >ate by 3328. = > >If you work 40 hrs./wk. multiply your hourly rate by 2080. = > >If you work 24/48 (O.T. over 56/wk.) you work for the fire dept. and are pr= >obably union and I have no fudge factor for that base pay. > >I have no idea how anybody could come up with a base rate near 40K with $8.= >50/hr. $28.8K is right on the money (no pun intended). = > > >(If you are new and haven't gotten a W2 form in your EMS career I don't re= >commend figuring your base pay. You may have a sudden desire to move to th= >e east coast where I hear the pay is better.) > >Hope this helps > > >Joe K. Overstreet >San Marcos > [] Re: EMT Pay >> > >> > >> > At 00:06 12/25/98 -0600, you wrote: >> > >Adam please dont ask what we make......... >> > >For what I'v seen and know, Austin's got us all beat(the = > >whole >>state,im >> > >willing to bet).Plus yall have the top EMS = > >units,equipment,protocols, >> > >training,and great overtime pay too. I would love to work = > >there = > >but >>only >> > >one problem, one would be headed to burnout city rather quick = > >I >>believe. >> > >Im sure the pay is all great but Austin sure gets the most = > >out = > >there >> > >street medics.(work wise) Also I keep seeing for the past = > >year = > >and a >> > >half, yall saying ILS enroute to converting to full = > >paramedics = > >at all >> > >times. So why has it not happened yet? >> > > >> > > Vasquez, EMT-P >> > >Eldorado EMS >> > > >> > > >> > >>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- >> > >Leave the web behind and enter the magic world of Disney >> > >Loads of games, activities, and all your favorite characters = > >in = > >one >>place >> > >http://ads./click/133/6 >> > > >> > >E-group home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/ >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 1999 Report Share Posted January 4, 1999 The first thing I learned upon taking a 24-48 job was to NOT calculate my hourly wage. When you have a job that includes, as part of your base pay, 32 hours of overtime per pay period, hourly wages give an artificially low salary. Craig's math sounds much more appropriate. Take care, Jeff [] Re: EMT Pay > > > > > > At 00:06 12/25/98 -0600, you wrote: > > >Adam please dont ask what we make......... > > >For what I'v seen and know, Austin's got us all beat(the whole >state,im > > >willing to bet).Plus yall have the top EMS units,equipment,protocols, > > >training,and great overtime pay too. I would love to work there but >only > > >one problem, one would be headed to burnout city rather quick I >believe. > > >Im sure the pay is all great but Austin sure gets the most out there > > >street medics.(work wise) Also I keep seeing for the past year and a > > >half, yall saying ILS enroute to converting to full paramedics at all > > >times. So why has it not happened yet? > > > > > > Vasquez, EMT-P > > >Eldorado EMS > > > > > > > > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > >Leave the web behind and enter the magic world of Disney > > >Loads of games, activities, and all your favorite characters in one >place > > >http://ads./click/133/6 > > > > > >E-group home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 1999 Report Share Posted January 4, 1999 Fudge factors to figure your annual base pay: If you work 24/48 (56 hr./wk. average-O.T. over 40) multiply your hourly rate by 3328. If you work 40 hrs./wk. multiply your hourly rate by 2080. If you work 24/48 (O.T. over 56/wk.) you work for the fire dept. and are probably union and I have no fudge factor for that base pay. I have no idea how anybody could come up with a base rate near 40K with $8.50/hr. $28.8K is right on the money (no pun intended). (If you are new and haven't gotten a W2 form in your EMS career I don't recommend figuring your base pay. You may have a sudden desire to move to the east coast where I hear the pay is better.) Hope this helps Joe K. Overstreet San Marcos [] Re: EMT Pay > > > > > > At 00:06 12/25/98 -0600, you wrote: > > >Adam please dont ask what we make......... > > >For what I'v seen and know, Austin's got us all beat(the whole >state,im > > >willing to bet).Plus yall have the top EMS units,equipment,protocols, > > >training,and great overtime pay too. I would love to work there but >only > > >one problem, one would be headed to burnout city rather quick I >believe. > > >Im sure the pay is all great but Austin sure gets the most out there > > >street medics.(work wise) Also I keep seeing for the past year and a > > >half, yall saying ILS enroute to converting to full paramedics at all > > >times. So why has it not happened yet? > > > > > > Vasquez, EMT-P > > >Eldorado EMS > > > > > > > > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > >Leave the web behind and enter the magic world of Disney > > >Loads of games, activities, and all your favorite characters in one >place > > >http://ads./click/133/6 > > > > > >E-group home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 1999 Report Share Posted January 11, 1999 Thats a very beautiful sentiment Colleen. I'm not being sarcastic, honest. But, some of us who are just as dedicated to our chosen work as any volunteer have justifiable concerns about our rates of compensation. We have families, houses, and cars. We would be negligent if we did not press for better pay. I would not be a paramedic for 11 years if I did not love my job. But I must make the distinction that EMS is what I do, not who I am. I am a father and a husband. I serve my family best by bettering myself in my career. >From -return-1938-jkimbrow=hotmail.comreturns (DOT) Sun Jan 10 19:19:07 1999 >Received: (qmail 8098 invoked by uid 505); 11 Jan 1999 03:17:54 -0000 >Mailing-List: contact -owneregroups >Precedence: list >X-URL: /list// >X-Mailing-List: egroups >Reply-To: egroups >Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-egroups >Received: (qmail 17717 invoked by uid 7770); 31 Dec 1998 22:26:05 -0000 >Received: from tower.ti.com (192.94.94.5) > by vault.findmail.com with SMTP; 31 Dec 1998 22:26:05 -0000 >Received: from dlep3.itg.ti.com ([157.170.188.62]) by tower.ti.com (8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25893 for <egroups>; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:25:53 -0600 (CST) >Received: from a0209417 (cna0209417.sc.ti.com [156.117.233.186]) > by dlep3.itg.ti.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA16302 > for <egroups>; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:25:52 -0600 (CST) >Message-ID: > >To: <egroups> >Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:08:26 -0600 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 >Subject: [] Re: EMT Pay >Content-Type: text/plain; charset= " iso-8859-1 " >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >That's okay, those crazy rice pickin'/ crawfish eatin' cajuns wouldn't put >up with that kind of talk no how. > >Bon Chance, >Dan Watkins Jr. EMT-B > > [] Re: EMT Pay > > >>In a message dated 12/31/98 2:33:59 PM Central Standard Time, >>ten50major@... writes: >> >>> >>> This is in response to your hostile outbreak on Texas EMS, It sounds >>> like all you are in it is for the money and not the self satisfaction of >>> what EMS can give a person. This is a calling for me and I believe I >>> would do it no matter what the pay. I work in Jasper County, and also I >>> am a VOLUNTEER for Huntington First Responders. My pay has drop since >>> AMR skipped town but I am Happy as a clam. I love my career and >>> wouldn't change it or this po'dunk' state or towns as you call us.> >> >>And I believe that this is the way most professional EMS providers feel. >> >>>I think you should find other alternatives because I don't believe you >>> would make it here in the field with all us po'dunk hicks> >> >>Here! Here! AMEN, AMEN >> >> Ya'll come back now ya hear!!!!!!!!!!!!. >>> Colleen> >> >>Very well spoken, Colleen. >> >> , BS, EMT/P >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>Heart Disease. Family Medicine. ADD. Arthritis. Asthma. Neuroscience. >>Hundreds of expert human guides to lead you through thousands of topics. >>Explore The Mining Co. http://offers./click/195/0 >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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