Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Gerald Van Waes wrote: > Is it Asperger ? I still have no idea... Yes, my friend, that pretty much covers all the bases. Welcome to the group. Maybe we can help you understand it better. Clay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 So English is your second (or third or fourth?) language? Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 From one Gerald to another... Find somebody with experience diagnosing aspergers with people your age. Collect your school records and have a list of people who have good memories of you at various stages and no reason to fear an AS diagnosis for you. Good luck, Geald (Jerry) Newport > Hello, > > I'm new to this group. I'm still not sure if myself have Asperger syndrom or not.. My previous girlfriend's new man was diagnosed autism. She started to read books and became convinced I had Asperger syndrome and learned to understand what she had experienced with me during the relationship of before. Also my new girlfriend came to that idea simultanuously. I started to read books, did some tests, which showed lots of qualities within the spectrum.. But I'm still not sure. But I DO know I suffer a lot from some kinds of dislexia, communication errors and direct confrontation memory failors. I have difficulties not to make mistakes with sentences, to understand people correctly etc. whenever there are confusing sitiuations. When two things happen at the same time I cannot follow any more or concentrate properly. When 2 people are in the room asking me things I cannot remember which person said what, and then say words which are wrong like newspaper when wanting to say something else, forget dates, words, whatever they said. Also I cannot read ver well through lines etc. I overlook things in sentences, fall back on easy patterns when writing or deliberately make it more complex or over-expressive so that nobody iunderstand a word I'm saying. > Perhaps all these are caused by something else, I still cannot tell. > My youth was full of lack of communication, I hade to be overcareful with words and deads, so I think that caused it more or less. I didn't have friends before I was 12 or 16, except during some family visits. I lived in a kind of cocoon when I was young, which I throughouly broke out. The whole process is a painful growing of consciousness, trying to learn to understand how people interact. Every time I'm scared if I'm not misinterpreting the same errors happen. But each day I grow in selfassureness and somehow these things can be minimilized but I don't have the feeling they can be cured completely. > Is it asperger ? I don't know. I wrote lots of poetry, difficult theories about how to put ideas into abstract forms, which I thought were brilliant enough ideas but nobody ever understood them; Anyhow I can still explain them orally well but still cannot make a sentence easily readable. It's always too difficult to others. > Also when I write sentences some words will be written double too often, or the sentence fails, or has a wrong structure. I want to write very big sentences because I want to put all connections, like a mathematical formula into one sentence. > Is it Aspereger ? I've no idea. I know I'm more sensitive than others, I am extremely good in abstract thinking, can solve almost any difficult idea. In school I > always knew already everything before we learned it, because I was curious and read a lot. Never the less I was unable to make resume of books for instance or concentrate on simple calculations. About resumes of books : it was the feeling why something that was written which for me like the essence of a book. > I can can still continue like this. I also talk too much. It is possible that this way going into a thought deeper that I miss the point when someone changes the subject etc. and so on > Is it Asperger ? I still have no idea... > > Gerald > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 Jane wrote : " So English is your second (or third or fourth?) language? " it's supposed to be my third language first languuage is Dutch, but I write and talk English a lot, Gerald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 Hi Gerald, I'm new to this group too, just joined last week. I learned of AS through an article about Scissorhands and it went on from there. I'm 99.9% sure I'm on the autistic spectrum. That last percentage point remains unsure mostly because I haven't been diagnosed. But I can't stand doctors so I won't go to them, unless it's for something other than my " head " . I once tried to get help in finding out if I had auditory dyslexia. I was told by my doctor to contact these folks who dealt with dyslexia at a local hospital. After a rather humiliating phone conversation with one lady there who said that maybe my problem was a " self-confidence issue " , I gave up seeking an answer from the " professionals " . (It turned out they were only interested in helping dyslexic children anyway and I was in my late 20's.) I've always had problems regarding oral speech, such as stammering, talking backwards, hearing things wrong (including my own voice), difficulties with proper volume, repeating myself, etc,. Anyway, I'm no expert (obviously), but you sound to be on the autistic spectrum to me. a > Hello, > > I'm new to this group. I'm still not sure if myself have Asperger > syndrom or not.. My previous girlfriend's new man was diagnosed > autism. She started to read books and became convinced I had Asperger > syndrome and learned to understand what she had experienced with me > during the relationship of before. Also my new girlfriend came to that > idea simultanuously. I started to read books, did some tests, which > showed lots of qualities within the spectrum.. But I'm still not sure. > But I DO know I suffer a lot from some kinds of dislexia, > communication errors and direct confrontation memory failors. I have > difficulties not to make mistakes with sentences, to understand people > correctly etc. whenever there are confusing sitiuations. When two > things happen at the same time I cannot follow any more or concentrate > properly. When 2 people are in the room asking me things I cannot > remember which person said what, and then say words which are wrong > like newspaper when wanting to say something else, forget dates, > words, whatever they said. Also I cannot read ver well through lines > etc. I overlook things in sentences, fall back on easy patterns when > writing or deliberately make it more complex or over-expressive so > that nobody iunderstand a word I'm saying. > Perhaps all these are caused by something else, I still cannot tell. > My youth was full of lack of communication, I hade to be overcareful > with words and deads, so I think that caused it more or less. I didn't > have friends before I was 12 or 16, except during some family visits. > I lived in a kind of cocoon when I was young, which I throughouly > broke out. The whole process is a painful growing of consciousness, > trying to learn to understand how people interact. Every time I'm > scared if I'm not misinterpreting the same errors happen. But each day > I grow in selfassureness and somehow these things can be minimilized > but I don't have the feeling they can be cured completely. > Is it asperger ? I don't know. I wrote lots of poetry, difficult > theories about how to put ideas into abstract forms, which I thought > were brilliant enough ideas but nobody ever understood them; Anyhow I > can still explain them orally well but still cannot make a sentence > easily readable. It's always too difficult to others. > Also when I write sentences some words will be written double too > often, or the sentence fails, or has a wrong structure. I want to > write very big sentences because I want to put all connections, like a > mathematical formula into one sentence. > Is it Aspereger ? I've no idea. I know I'm more sensitive than > others, I am extremely good in abstract thinking, can solve almost any > difficult idea. In school I > always knew already everything before we learned it, because I was > curious and read a lot. Never the less I was unable to make resume of > books for instance or concentrate on simple calculations. About > resumes of books : it was the feeling why something that was written > which for me like the essence of a book. > I can can still continue like this. I also talk too much. It is > possible that this way going into a thought deeper that I miss the > point when someone changes the subject etc. and so on > Is it Asperger ? I still have no idea... > > Gerald > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 Thank you a, The reason why I have doubts if I am on that spectrum is that the characteristics are not constant, but whenever I'm a bit nervous, which happens easily in situations which have no centered concentration. I am aware it could have been caused by the confusing mother-son relationship I experienced which causes these nerves rather than a failor which is always present, so I'm still not sure. A kind of dyslexia can be part of this too. On the other hand it's very easy to think on a multi-dimensional descriptive comparing level (abstract thinking, images, sounds, etc.) and to understand what others cannot. I do not like repetitive patterns at all, change things relatively rapidly because it reminds me of this cocooning prison which I think this problem implies. Whenever life takes me seriously confusion is less.. Judgelments on lack of " self-confidence " seems familiar to me. For me after some years I'm mostly pretty self-assured but like a professor confusion is still beyond every new corner.. Gerald Re: new to group Hi Gerald, I'm new to this group too, just joined last week. I learned of AS through an article about Scissorhands and it went on from there. I'm 99.9% sure I'm on the autistic spectrum. That last percentage point remains unsure mostly because I haven't been diagnosed. But I can't stand doctors so I won't go to them, unless it's for something other than my " head " . I once tried to get help in finding out if I had auditory dyslexia. I was told by my doctor to contact these folks who dealt with dyslexia at a local hospital. After a rather humiliating phone conversation with one lady there who said that maybe my problem was a " self-confidence issue " , I gave up seeking an answer from the " professionals " . (It turned out they were only interested in helping dyslexic children anyway and I was in my late 20's.) I've always had problems regarding oral speech, such as stammering, talking backwards, hearing things wrong (including my own voice), difficulties with proper volume, repeating myself, etc,. Anyway, I'm no expert (obviously), but you sound to be on the autistic spectrum to me. a > Hello, > > I'm new to this group. I'm still not sure if myself have Asperger > syndrom or not.. My previous girlfriend's new man was diagnosed > autism. She started to read books and became convinced I had Asperger > syndrome and learned to understand what she had experienced with me > during the relationship of before. Also my new girlfriend came to that > idea simultanuously. I started to read books, did some tests, which > showed lots of qualities within the spectrum.. But I'm still not sure. > But I DO know I suffer a lot from some kinds of dislexia, > communication errors and direct confrontation memory failors. I have > difficulties not to make mistakes with sentences, to understand people > correctly etc. whenever there are confusing sitiuations. When two > things happen at the same time I cannot follow any more or concentrate > properly. When 2 people are in the room asking me things I cannot > remember which person said what, and then say words which are wrong > like newspaper when wanting to say something else, forget dates, > words, whatever they said. Also I cannot read ver well through lines > etc. I overlook things in sentences, fall back on easy patterns when > writing or deliberately make it more complex or over-expressive so > that nobody iunderstand a word I'm saying. > Perhaps all these are caused by something else, I still cannot tell. > My youth was full of lack of communication, I hade to be overcareful > with words and deads, so I think that caused it more or less. I didn't > have friends before I was 12 or 16, except during some family visits. > I lived in a kind of cocoon when I was young, which I throughouly > broke out. The whole process is a painful growing of consciousness, > trying to learn to understand how people interact. Every time I'm > scared if I'm not misinterpreting the same errors happen. But each day > I grow in selfassureness and somehow these things can be minimilized > but I don't have the feeling they can be cured completely. > Is it asperger ? I don't know. I wrote lots of poetry, difficult > theories about how to put ideas into abstract forms, which I thought > were brilliant enough ideas but nobody ever understood them; Anyhow I > can still explain them orally well but still cannot make a sentence > easily readable. It's always too difficult to others. > Also when I write sentences some words will be written double too > often, or the sentence fails, or has a wrong structure. I want to > write very big sentences because I want to put all connections, like a > mathematical formula into one sentence. > Is it Aspereger ? I've no idea. I know I'm more sensitive than > others, I am extremely good in abstract thinking, can solve almost any > difficult idea. In school I > always knew already everything before we learned it, because I was > curious and read a lot. Never the less I was unable to make resume of > books for instance or concentrate on simple calculations. About > resumes of books : it was the feeling why something that was written > which for me like the essence of a book. > I can can still continue like this. I also talk too much. It is > possible that this way going into a thought deeper that I miss the > point when someone changes the subject etc. and so on > Is it Asperger ? I still have no idea... > > Gerald > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 .... while concentration on difficult problems I have not at all Gerald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 a wrote: >make out what they are saying at all. Once I went to Scotland with my >parents - and I couldn't understand 95% of what was being said while in >that country. It was really frustrating. Everything sounded like one >big blurrrrrrr. This can occur when I'm hearing english that's being >spoken by someone who has my accent, or close to it. I often/usually miss the beginning of what anyone says, unless I have had a chance to prepare myself to hear them. As for accents...it depends. Understanding someone who has an accent different from mine usually takes more work -- varying from a little bit extra to an exhausting amount. And the environment matters, too. One time, many years ago, my mother and I were " back east " in Boston (from our home in Seattle). We were in the train station waiting for a train, and my mother asked if I would get her a cup of coffee from the coffee kiosk. When I got to the head of the line, it turned out that I could not understand a single word said by the coffee man. He was a " white ethnic " (not an immigrant, born and raised in the U.S. in an Italian-heritage community) with a " white ethnic " accent, and he was speaking to me in a huge echo-y place with lots of other noises going on. Naturally, he quickly got irritated at my stupidity. I was lucky that the customer behind me was willing and able to translate between us. I get a bit strange in huge open indoor spaces anyway. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 Jane Meyerding wrote: > > I often/usually miss the beginning of what anyone says, unless I have > had a chance to prepare myself to hear them. As for accents...it > depends. Understanding someone who has an accent different from mine > usually takes more work -- varying from a little bit extra to an > exhausting amount. And the environment matters, too. This I can totally relate to. I often find myself asking a person to repeat what they said but then before they do so I realize I did hear it after all. > was a " white ethnic " (not an immigrant, born and raised in the U.S. > in an Italian-heritage community) with a " white ethnic " accent, How did you find all this out if you could not even understand him? How do you know that he did not get off the plane from Italy in the previous month. What is a " white ethic " accent? I never knew that " white " had or was an accent. > he was speaking to me in a huge echo-y place with lots of other > noises going on. Naturally, he quickly got irritated at my stupidity. How do you know that he was irritated at your " stupidity " ? Maybe he was simply irritated because " he " was not able to effectively communicate with you, his customer? > I get a bit strange in huge open indoor spaces anyway. It also sounds like you read way too much into other's actions. Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 Red wrote: >How did you find all this out if you could not even understand him? How >do you know that he did not get off the plane from Italy in the previous >month. What is a " white ethic " accent? I never knew that " white " had or >was an accent. I lived in Philadelphia for ten years (1962-1972). In 2004, I was back there for Autreat. One thing that impressed me greatly was the continuing visible presence of very identifiable Italian-Americans. No doubt there are Americans of Italian descent in Seattle. But there is no Italian-American community the way there is in Philadelphia and Boston, no readily identifiable Italian-Americans here the way there are back east. I say that not as a criticism. For me as an outsider, it is a matter of indifference, except that I enjoy the greater diversity of culture (even in how people look around me as I wait for a train). A train platform in Philadelphia makes Seattle's population look very " white bread. " Not just (not even primarily) because there are more African Americans in Philadelphia than here, but because in Philadelphia there are multiple white-ethnic communities adding flavor to the mix. Maybe somebody else here knows (I don't) why the " white ethnic " accents disappear as people move from east to west coast in the U.S. Maybe it's just because the people who come here tend to disperse rather than create ethnic-identify communities such as the traditional ones founded long ago in the east. Besides Italian-American communities with distinct cultural markers, there are Irish-American communities and others (back east). Chicago used to have a large, distinct Polish-American community. There is at least one fishing town on the northeast coast (can't remember the name of it) with a strong Portuguese-American community. >How do you know that he was irritated at your " stupidity " ? Maybe he was >simply irritated because " he " was not able to effectively communicate >with you, his customer? He was irritated by my slowness in responding to him. Besides my inability to understand him, I was operating on Seattle time -- not the difference in time zones, but the speed of life. People are expected to react/interact more rapidly in east coast (north east, at least) cities than in Seattle. The same slower-than-back-east pace is true for at least some other western cities, though I cannot say it is true for all. >It also sounds like you read way too much into other's actions. You weren't there. It sounds like you rely too much on your (limited) understanding of other people's experiences. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 > >How do you know that he was irritated at your " stupidity " ? Maybe he > was > >simply irritated because " he " was not able to effectively communicate > >with you, his customer? > > He was irritated by my slowness in responding to him. Besides my > inability to understand him, I was operating on Seattle time -- not > the difference in time zones, but the speed of life. People are > expected to react/interact more rapidly in east coast (north east, at > least) cities than in Seattle. The same slower-than-back-east pace is > true for at least some other western cities, though I cannot say it > is true for all. > > >It also sounds like you read way too much into other's actions. > > You weren't there. It sounds like you rely too much on your (limited) > understanding of other people's experiences. I can pretty much tell when another is getting irritated by me when I'm having a hard time understanding what's being said. A hard stare directed right at me for one, a rolling of the eyes, a heavy sigh followed by brisk, abrupt movements, a rise in blood pressure...on and on. People who have empathy don't react in these ways. I can relate to open, echoey spaces and background noises making things 'strange'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Welcome Bethany > > Hi everyone, > Just to introduce myself, I had two brain surgeries for Chiari > malformation tht left me with chronic pain,neurological deficits, and > developed fibromyalgia. Still looking for help with the daily pain > issues. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 hi emily wecome to the group we all no what pain is we are all a bunch of painers and a good bunch of people enytime you want to walk my key pad is here tell us about your self what state do you live in donnieKY Subject: New to Group To: Hugs-N-Pain Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 1:45 PM Hi everyone, Just to introduce myself, I had two brain surgeries for Chiari malformation tht left me with chronic pain,neurological deficits, and developed fibromyalgia. Still looking for help with the daily pain issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Hi , Welcome to the group! We are very happy to have you. I'm so sorry to hear of your pain issues. YIKES! Two brain surgeries? That sounds so very scary! Do you see a Pain Management Specialist? This is where I'd look for pain control. They will treat you the best. If you can tell me what City and State you live in, perhaps I could aide you in finding a Specialist. Just jump right in and ask any questions you'd like to. There are many members of this group, some don't post on a regular basis, but they do read the posts and will jump in when they can help someone. Myself, I have fibro, OsteoArthritis, spinal Stenosis in my neck and lumbar area, and Degenerative Disk Disease AKA DDD. I see a pain management specialist and he really gives me adequate pain treatment. Much better than I've ever gotten from any other type of doc. It is their specialty. I hope we can find adequate care for you. Blessings, ~Tommie~ www.myspace.com/tommiejj PH, CFS, FMS, Diabetes, Sleep Apnea, Restless Leg Syndrome Don't waste energy second-guessing what you're missing or what can go awry. If you put enough energy into doubt, something will undoubtedly go wrong. Instead, focus on the positive possibilities with a hopeful attitude. New to Group Hi everyone, Just to introduce myself, I had two brain surgeries for Chiari malformation tht left me with chronic pain,neurological deficits, and developed fibromyalgia. Still looking for help with the daily pain issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Hi My names , I'm 20 and live in the UK. Ive recently had surgery to my knee (last week). Welcome to the group Hugs -- New to Group To: Hugs-N-Pain Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 1:45 PM Hi everyone, Just to introduce myself, I had two brain surgeries for Chiari malformation tht left me with chronic pain,neurological deficits, and developed fibromyalgia. Still looking for help with the daily pain issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 hi shelly what dose the 88 stand for i got e a boat that has 88 on the side is it for a nascar driver and the uk where is it donnieKY From: <mcgiffie5yahoo (DOT) com> Subject: New to Group To: Hugs-N-Pain@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 1:45 PM Hi everyone, Just to introduce myself, I had two brain surgeries for Chiari malformation tht left me with chronic pain,neurological deficits, and developed fibromyalgia. Still looking for help with the daily pain issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 > > Hi everyone, > Just to introduce myself, I had two brain surgeries for Chiari > malformation tht left me with chronic pain,neurological deficits, and > developed fibromyalgia. Still looking for help with the daily pain > issues. > >dear emily i have been in pain for a long time and OHSU is done testing me. my pain travles in me and jumps from place to place and i beleave they are done with me. so good luck to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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